(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-01-11]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/30013187]
GN[European Grand Prix Finale]
PB[artem92]
PW[Welvang]
BR[?]
WR[3d]
TM[2700]OT[20 fischer]
RE[B+1.5]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[Welvang: ok ready !
artem92: have a nice game
Welvang: have a nice game 
isibboi: Good game!
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;B[qd]
(;W[dc]
(;B[pq]
(;W[cq]
(;B[qn]
(;W[oc]
C[ronin3: \\o/
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(;B[pf]
C[ronin3: i would be so screwed as W already
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(;W[df]
C[artem92: sorry
Welvang: np
B2 Bomber: why
Lilltiger: as B as well tbh, because they are pro :p
shashwat: I'd love to know what a pro is thinking at a stage like this
shashwat: like, why they take more time on certain moves 
shashwat: and what their direction of thought is
💖 KoBa 💖: yeah, spending 5 minutes for thinking move 9 is pretty pro-level ^^
He Who Walks in Shadows: Bathroom break :D
ronin3: so this answers the why XD
]
(;B[kd]
C[Lilltiger: hahah this chat is gold ;)
He Who Walks in Shadows: I would say the niken tobi and the ogemi have a lot of variations. The 3x3 is extra solid on its own, so W is planning on being extra offensive.
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(;W[qc]
(;B[rc]
C[bobsof: On l’attendait cette partie avec Tanguy.!
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(;W[rb]
C[death_taxes: if tanguy can repeat his performance of the season 3 with longer time settings here, would be sick
shashwat: What's ogemi?
nieutseucheu: ogeima i assume
He Who Walks in Shadows: Typo.
Volker_S_Halstenbek: ogeima is large knight's move
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(;B[qb]
(;W[pc]
(;B[sb]
(;W[ld]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: jeesh tanguy isnt going easy in the opening today
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(;B[kc]
C[Lilltiger: He Who Walks...: One can not say that anymore, as the bots have shown us there is no safe position, as anything is up for trade :D
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(;W[rd]
(;B[ra]
(;W[qe]
(;B[pd]
(;W[pe]
(;B[od]
(;W[ne]
(;B[nd]
(;W[md]
C[ronin3: human pros, pre-2000: play this-this-and this. if things get too difficult, play that-that and that.  bots: there is no safe word
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(;B[nc]
C[ronin3: happy to see this played out, btw, was wondering what way W had to deal with the cut
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(;W[nb]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: i dont understand whats happening in this corner >___>
Lilltiger: they fight for sente
ronin3: it's a loose ladder
💖 KoBa 💖: isnt this just good for black?
nidza: i'd say its good for white
]
(;B[re]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: O_O
bobsof: A beautiful sacrifice!
ronin3: W basically neutralising Q14 and getting thick around a small corner. strategically is a win
Lilltiger: works well with d14
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(;W[mc]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: im just looking at those points b made there and see that white made 0 of those
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(;B[sd]
C[Animiral: I think it's a huge advantage for black
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(;W[oe]
(;B[rd]
C[Animiral: white shape is a disaster
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(;W[ke]
(;B[je]
(;W[kf]
C[bobsof: A rather fast pace of play
ronin3: i'd take that shape over 4 solid points in the corner any day
nidza: this corner started 3 black stones vs 1 white stone, white got a good result
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(;B[jf]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: oh right that is true
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(;W[jg]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: it could have been lot larger corner for b
Lilltiger: this is too erly to judge it, as w group is weak, b might be able to gain from that, but b group to the left is also weak. so without knowing any of the continuations it's extreamly hard to judge
]
(;B[ig]
(;W[kg]
(;B[hf]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: W IS NOT WEAK THERE AS LONG AS R!$ IS OPEN TO CUT
Volker_S_Halstenbek: sorry for caps lock
]
(;W[ic]
C[ronin3: .you sounded really convinced :D
Lilltiger: a group is pretty much always weak unless itäs alive, another wisdom the boths tought us ;D
Lilltiger: bots..
Volker_S_Halstenbek: i always am :)
shashwat: Caps lock doesn't change 14 to !$ :D
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(;B[id]
(;W[gc]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: maybe r14 is a swearword in caps lock
Volker_S_Halstenbek: =)
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(;B[qf]
C[shashwat: welp, here comes the attack
ronin3: noooo :( W did not cut off that stone
Lilltiger: r14 must be a slow move
Volker_S_Halstenbek: slow but huge
Lilltiger: not even huge, w can ignore this
Lilltiger: and play r7 or so
]
(;W[ih]
(;B[hh]
(;W[ii]
(;B[hi]
(;W[gg]
(;B[hg]
(;W[ij]
C[ronin3: seems a case of "you play slow? I play slow"
Lilltiger: r14 is like thretening to kill 4 stones with 3 moves.. and well that is very slow
dataytvids: in my experience of only 2 online games, the white stones spaced out on the top and bottom left corners are effective
sakure: hi
]
(;B[hj]
(;W[ik]
C[DenisK: r14 thretens the whole w group plus make some potential on the right side, it's big
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(;B[ch]
C[Lilltiger: no itäs not threthening the whole w groip, the grouop was ahead in the wide open middle and w q7/r7 ruins the whole right side for b
sakure: what about p18, he can kill and get 3 stons
Shinkenjoe: too small
Ildira: I prefer white.
Lilltiger: 3 stones is 6 points, any random tenuki is by average worth atleast 7.5points, so a gote move needs to be of twice that value to be a good move
sakure: o i see
Puumanamana: is H9 too slow here?
Lilltiger: the later in the game the less the random tenuki will be worth
kusrabs: seems a little more for white now. They can just spread on the bottom.
Ildira: Rule of dump, if 3 stone are not cuting stone and there is not a lot empty space around them, it's small yose.
Lilltiger: i think h9 is just premature, resolve to bottom right before deciding if h9 or not, but too hard for me to judge
]
(;W[dh]
(;B[di]
C[Ildira: @Puumanamana : H9 is possible but i found G8 more dynamic.
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(;W[ci]
C[Lilltiger: Q4, P3, Q7 any of these options and responses affect if h9/g8 would be interesting moves or not 
scaradim: I'm new to OGS. do players see chat exchages of other users following the game?
nieutseucheu: no
Lilltiger: after the game is finished they do
Ildira: I feel like move like H9 are more efficiant when liberties matters, but there it's not really the case here.
scaradim: thanks
dlpigozzi: if you go up in the chat you will see that their writing is black
dlpigozzi: all blue is hidden till end
Puumanamana: Well, with G8 you also have a cutting point, but it's true that it's a bit more dynamic. Maybe the continuation is a bit better too
Lilltiger: Ildira: That is often good wisdom, but often bot's play the h9 move anyway
]
(;B[dd]
C[MatisRust: What p in ratings stands for? Dan?
Lilltiger: pro
MatisRust: Thanks 
Lilltiger: so 1dan professional rank, and that is about 6-7d rank on ogs i think?
AvikDragon55: yeah
MatisRust: So, 2p higher than 1p?
nieutseucheu: yep
nieutseucheu: up to 9 p
]
(;W[cg]
C[Lilltiger: and 10p is just a honor rank for winning a tournament
AvikDragon55: yeah
AvikDragon55: matis
Volker_S_Halstenbek: yeah...'just'
AvikDragon55: and yeah lilltiger
Ildira: huhu I can't predict their mooves...
Lilltiger: but a 1p is not nessesary stronger than 2p, some 1p is as strong as 5p as they need to win tournaments to rank up. and there are a lot of very strong 1p players now so hard to be the 1p that wins¨
Volker_S_Halstenbek: e17 :-)
molpsy4cc44c16dacc4765: and honorable 10p
Volker_S_Halstenbek: i can predict
Volker_S_Halstenbek: :-)
molpsy4cc44c16dacc4765: Winning the honinbo!
Puumanamana: I'm curious what black had planned if w had responded to the D16 tsuke
Ildira: E17 seems so big, I don't know why white allow it.
m09: @Lilltiger there are only 2 1ps in Europe: https://www.eurogofed.org/pros/
Puumanamana: I feel like it was supposed to give a fighting advantage in the cross cut
B2 Bomber: were are Ws points if B steals the corner?
Lilltiger: m09: I do not think you can gain in p rank in european tournaments, i think you need to play in the asian for that. but unsure
Puumanamana: if b steals the corner, it's probable that b stones at H13 will be weakened, and w might get compensation by attacking it
bobsof: It feels to me that white has very good haengma in this game. No to say anything agains black’s play of course. 
Puumanamana: @Lilltiger, you can actually, I think you need to beat a certain number of pros in a year
Puumanamana: can be european pros as well
Ildira: @B2 Bomber : White influence around L14 is worth more than you think.
shashwat: My understanding is you can't go down in professional rating, right?
Lilltiger: Puuman: ohh, did noth know that, thanks :)
shashwat: You can't go from 2p to 1p
Puumanamana: that's correct
AvikDragon55: yes shashwat
Lilltiger: shashwat: 10p you can loose and some gets ranked down when they retire, and i think there are instances where people have askt for a rank down and recived it.
Ildira: That's why old pro have a high rank but they are not the strongest.
]
(;B[ec]
C[shashwat: Hikaru no go teaches you so much =
shashwat: =)
death_taxes: and that's why i don't like the pro ranking, you might have a 50y old 9p who's weaker than a 13y old 1p
shashwat: well, you wouldn't expect the 1p to stay 1p for too long, right? I think it's fine
Ildira: Here a real ranking : https://www.goratings.org/en/
shashwat: especially since most pros are, well, pros
Lilltiger: Well, it's both good and bad, it's like in OS should they remove the OS medels from prior winners for evry new generations.. 
death_taxes: i don't get why we don't use an elo based ranking like in chess
ben0: [object Object\]
Lilltiger: eactualy there is now a elo like rating
shashwat: We do use ELO, right? 
Puumanamana: For professionals, the ELO ranking is much better in my opinion (link from @Ildira)
fhayd: Dan is traditionnal, I don't think pros refer that much to this ranking instead of elo ranking
shashwat: Ranks are just identifiers. ELO ratings actually decide who is the best
shashwat: that's how it works right now
ben0: Hello people, in a few minutes I will start a live commentary of this game
ben0: https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0
Puumanamana: nice !
ben0: welcome to join and to ask questions
death_taxes: i just registered to a tournament and it didn't ask for my gor, but my kyu lvl
Puumanamana: I was supposed to work, but I guess I'll keep procrastinating
]
(;W[cc]
C[shashwat: Well, yes, but that's becaues go rankings are highly correlated with level for amateurs
fhayd: Maybe kyu rating can be inferred from elo
shashwat: ELO is related to pros playing against each other afaik
shashwat: although, Eurogofed and other orgs do have an ELO as well afair
Puumanamana: you can have some correspondance table here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_ranks_and_ratings
Puumanamana: they try to match kyu/dan levels with elo
shashwat: I don't understand D11 or D16
shashwat: wouldn't it make more sense to expand the bottom or the right?
bobbo: //////////////hi Good luck to you
shashwat: rather than trying to reduce an overconcentrated white?
]
(;B[fc]
C[dlpigozzi: I think q10 is already the divine move for both
bobbo: yes  thx for  twaching
Lilltiger: q10 is small for either players
]
(;W[ge]
C[Conjure: which tournament is this? EGC?
Conjure: EGF i mean
liso77: https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
shashwat: European Professional Online Go League
Conjure: ^^ thank you
shashwat: oh no
]
(;B[ee]
C[Lilltiger: as w cant make points there and b can as must get 3d line there and give w a better position in the middle
dlpigozzi: my bet lilltiger, biggest moyos right now are there
]
(;W[ff]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: no it is not european go league it is grand prix finals
dlpigozzi: of course this fight is also trascendental but if I could tenuki I will go for it
]
(;B[cd]
C[shashwat: yeah, I mispasted
Volker_S_Halstenbek: liso77 was right
]
(;W[bd]
C[shashwat: and misremembered
dlpigozzi: q10, r10
jerome_morrow: if at first you dont succeed, try and try again
jerome_morrow: i'm proud of you, vincent
Lilltiger: it's not a moyo, r6 is to low for that, to bottom side is the biggest open side, and left side is the side with most potentional for a player (w)
]
(;B[db]
(;W[bc]
(;B[gb]
C[Lilltiger: dlp: if you 10, and w plays Q7, R7 or R10, how much points will you get on the side, compared to what w will get in the middle, also what happens to your bottom right corner
FrancoisGo: I think moves like C12 is used to find a way to settl H12 efficiently
FrancoisGo: Tenukiing for the bottom would give initiative to white in the center fight imo
]
(;W[hc]
(;B[fe]
(;W[gf]
(;B[be]
C[Lilltiger: dlp: if you insted play K4 and if w protects the left, you play something like P8, then you will have a moyo (if that is what you want
gasana: Ben0 streaming a commentary of this game: https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0
]
(;W[ce]
(;B[de]
(;W[cf]
(;B[fd]
C[dlpigozzi: thx for the comments lill
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(;W[he]
(;B[dj]
C[danielarnaut217: might be a stupid question, but why hasnt white played P18? Cant he save the white group?
CarloTibaldi: it is gote yose
Lilltiger: daniel: i answered that question erlier, any random tenuki is worth about 7.5p, so to take a gote move it must be worth twice the value of the random tenuki that the opponents make
OrenGold: its too small
danielarnaut217: I see. Good to know! thanks
ConQuestGo: is there a link to the results?
dlpigozzi: https://www.eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
dlpigozzi: is all there con
death_taxes: anyone has an AI analysis open? who's ahead?
ConQuestGo: imo blacks ahead
ConQuestGo: white has no ability for development
BAM8591: W+
ConQuestGo: ?
ConQuestGo: What are the points?
Zaphodian: Usually, W will just take the stone with B12
]
(;W[bh]
(;B[gl]
C[tekken8: Isn't it too early to say who's ahead? 
Zaphodian: So now B still has a weak group.
tekken8: Its only been 83 moves
ConQuestGo: yes but half the board is covered
ConQuestGo: @zaphodian surely whites wall in the center isnt that strong either. stronger than blacks group for sure though
]
(;W[fj]
C[Zaphodian: W could keep on attacking, e.g. at F10 or E9 or F9, Or he could play tenuki, e.g. Q6 or Q4 etc.
tekken8: What if white destroys the black moyo on the right? Is black still ahead? 
Zaphodian: hahaha, he plays the most severe move, I think
Zaphodian: W is ahead
]
(;B[fi]
(;W[fl]
(;B[hk]
C[ConQuestGo: [object Object\]
Wasser Bjorn: looks complicated #___# any high level player here to comment?
Zaphodian: I guess a move at J8 is normal.
]
(;W[il]
C[ConQuestGo: thats my thoughts too
Zaphodian: But that will induce B F7
]
(;B[fm]
(;W[el]
C[Zaphodian: F7 E8 G6
]
(;B[em]
C[Zaphodian: ooohhh
ConQuestGo: e9 j8 e11 l11?
Zaphodian: this is better than simply at G6
ConQuestGo: oops I wasnt  on the real game lol
]
(;W[dl]
C[Zaphodian: after W D8, B can now play at H7
]
(;B[dm]
C[Zaphodian: C8 H7 F3?
]
(;W[cl]
(;B[hn]
C[Zaphodian: H6 looks flimsy
]
(;W[cm]
(;B[do]
C[martin97: F4 might become sente
Zaphodian: D5 looks like the wrong direction
]
(;W[ep]
C[Zaphodian: A Black move at E4 or so would have been more usefull
Zaphodian: D5 has no follow-up, e.g. C6 is NOT sente
]
(;B[eo]
(;W[fp]
(;B[cp]
C[Zaphodian: D4 C5 B3
ConQuestGo: white's pretty good here
Zaphodian: or D4 B5 C6 C5 B3
ConQuestGo: free cash on the left from this
]
(;W[dp]
C[Zaphodian: Note that W can later play E11 E10 G9 to pick up a few B stones
]
(;B[co]
C[Zaphodian: B3 of course
]
(;W[bq]
C[Zaphodian: If B jumps to H4, W can consider G5 H5 G7
tymak: is this right diredtion for b?...I woul hurry for something around K6 to expand my potential and keep w central group under pressure
Zaphodian: so if H4 G5, B has to defend at G6
ConQuestGo: [object Object\]
]
(;B[io]
(;W[iq]
C[Zaphodian: This is just pain for B
tekken8: Protecting the right seems useless for black now
]
(;B[kp]
C[Zaphodian: I would probably play Q6 now.
Zaphodian: But maybe Q7 or Q4 is better
malishevserafym: O8
AvikDragon55: r7
Ildira: Yes somewhere around the middle, difficult to say where exactly.
post nut clarity: p5
]
(;W[ip]
C[Zaphodian: J4 K5 is conservative
Zaphodian: I guess W is consolidating
death_taxes: J4 seems to be making b stronger without gaining much?
]
(;B[jo]
C[Ildira: It's a small loss to simplify the game.
]
(;W[ng]
C[AvikDragon55: yeah
post nut clarity: prevents g3 i guess
Zaphodian: So W is just coasting now.
AvikDragon55: [object Object\]
death_taxes: can he afford to do that though?
Zaphodian: W will never play O12 after P12
ronin3: where are W points?
Zaphodian: ?? 
death_taxes: maybe w needs to Q7 to reduce right?
Zaphodian: W has about 50 pnts + komi
]
(;B[lq]
C[Zaphodian: B has 45 at best
death_taxes: M3 so calm
death_taxes: not even trying to build the right side
post nut clarity: i feel white should prolly go for blacks corner 
ronin3: oh thought B can easily gow lower right to 60+
tekken8: Seems like there are only gote moves left
PolloLoco: strong
AvikDragon55: stroneg
Zaphodian: Gote moves are underrated
]
(;W[qq]
C[tekken8: Finally
Zaphodian: R3 is a probe.
post nut clarity: expected
]
(;B[qp]
C[Zaphodian: W is trying to find out where to reduce B's influence
post nut clarity: w has to go for q3 cuz of m3
]
(;W[rp]
(;B[rq]
C[Zaphodian: doesn;t look all that convicing though
PolloLoco: no it doesn't seem 
PolloLoco: are you happy here as white?
Zaphodian: I would just play R2 and see what happens...
Sandmann6d: [object Object\]
post nut clarity: that's pretty sexy
post nut clarity: wait you cant type s e x y?
Ildira: Yes, I would take white if I had to choose. It's very difficult for black to increase its territory.
Sandmann6d: xD
]
(;W[pl]
C[PolloLoco: Perhaps I overestimate the value of those was walls 
ConQuestGo: there is only one wall
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
ConQuestGo: the wihte wall
pgyws: when are they going to play the divine move
post nut clarity: s e x y af
PolloLoco: I was taught they need not be connected 
Sandmann6d: oho
]
(;B[pj]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
PolloLoco: lol
post nut clarity: i think w is going for r5 ideas
]
(;W[qo]
(;B[pp]
C[post nut clarity: wow right when i type this
PolloLoco: good call
post nut clarity: guess the move champ
]
(;W[po]
C[death_taxes: pavol's game just started
death_taxes: double 3-3...
Boston1630: [object Object\]
pgyws: link to pavol game?
Free Tibet: Q6
death_taxes: https://online-go.com/game/30015837
pgyws: thank you
]
(;B[rn]
C[nidza: i can't get around the interface here at all
]
(;W[ro]
(;B[ql]
C[Zaphodian: S5 looks a little dangerous but, W P5 is sente
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
ben0: https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0
ben0: better interface here nikola
ben0: and better view as well
ben0: (live commentary of the game)
Sandmann6d: watch him eat
]
(;W[qk]
C[Zaphodian: Q7 could cause mayhem
PolloLoco: chaos is tempting 
]
(;B[pk]
(;W[qr]
(;B[rr]
(;W[pr]
(;B[or]
(;W[rl]
(;B[qm]
(;W[pm]
C[paintcan: this is some good stuff
]
(;B[rk]
(;W[qj]
(;B[rj]
(;W[qi]
(;B[pi]
C[tekken8: White is going all in on this fight
]
(;W[ok]
C[Kulturfreund: And lost his time....
tekken8: Now he wants to settle
hypergeometric: isn't the loss of R10 too big ? 
AvikDragon55: :)
Free Tibet: Let's count
]
(;B[nj]
C[Ildira: Not really, it was the black territory anyway.
]
(;W[oj]
(;B[oi]
(;W[ni]
C[Zaphodian: If you like adventure...
Ildira: Why white is fighting ? 
Yezurof: this cutting is -25 as per katago
Free Tibet: Poor w
]
(;B[ol]
C[Yezurof: From 95 to 70
PolloLoco: this is I mean before. Only that white felt uncomfortable. 
]
(;W[nk]
C[PolloLoco: that is when I seem to get into trouble. he seemed that way to me
]
(;B[pn]
(;W[om]
C[post nut clarity: this is sketchy
]
(;B[nl]
C[Piddle Fatfinger: This is great. I love how white is playing 
]
(;W[oq]
(;B[op]
C[Piddle Fatfinger: Not that move
]
(;W[np]
(;B[nq]
(;W[oo]
(;B[oq]
(;W[mk]
C[post nut clarity: whats the response for white
]
(;B[on]
(;W[nm]
(;B[nn]
(;W[mm]
C[Ildira: I would have played P6 before O9, if the trade happends it doesn't look bad.
Zaphodian: ???, just a mess
Ildira: before N9*
AvikDragon55: Oh my
]
(;B[ph]
C[AvikDragon55: is black dead?
AvikDragon55: or white
Lilltiger: missing p6 is very bad
]
(;W[cb]
C[hypergeometric: for white ? 
post nut clarity: bruh i thought white is cooking some stuff with o4 and p5
]
(;B[ea]
C[hypergeometric: are you disappointed post nut 
WaterDancer: Timesuji ?
]
(;W[mn]
C[AvikDragon55: i think black is winnning now
AvikDragon55: for sure
Ildira: Not fore sure
]
(;B[no]
C[Yezurof: 90% for white still
post nut clarity: yea cuz if w was gonna sac then whats the point of doing all that
AvikDragon55: its cloce
]
(;W[oh]
C[AvikDragon55: i guess
death_taxes: katago score anyone?
]
(;B[og]
(;W[nh]
C[Yezurof: +6 for W
death_taxes: ty
paintcan: white did make territory in center after all that
FedExpress: how do you have the score? are you entering in the moves by hand?
Ildira: +6 ? OO
]
(;B[jr]
C[filip.diloom: was just gonna write that 90% is about komi at this stage
AvikDragon55: Tanguy might be winning
post nut clarity: i guess white was just ahead for enough margin before all this nonsense
]
(;W[ir]
C[ConQuestGo: no I think black is winning
AvikDragon55: no
Ildira: Looks more even than +6 to me.
AvikDragon55: white might be ahead no
AvikDragon55: no
]
(;B[jm]
C[AvikDragon55: w
PolloLoco: is black doing enough to reduce? 
Free Tibet: W was like 25 pts ahead in cash before R3
post nut clarity: white played pretty badly towards the end so i wouldnt be surprised if black wins this
]
(;W[of]
C[Free Tibet: If you don't count right side
]
(;B[pg]
C[post nut clarity: but white shouldve won 
roln90: [object Object\]
]
(;W[gk]
(;B[hl]
(;W[ei]
C[Chuyou: [object Object\]
tekken8: White just won
]
(;B[ll]
(;W[ml]
(;B[hp]
(;W[gq]
(;B[is]
(;W[hs]
(;B[js]
C[paulo.1901150: i think white will win
]
(;W[hq]
(;B[gj]
(;W[fk]
C[Free Tibet: W 75 B 65
]
(;B[eh]
(;W[ej]
(;B[me]
(;W[nf]
C[pastek17: W + 0,5 IA says
]
(;B[kl]
C[Yezurof: Got W+2 here (katago 20k playout)
]
(;W[kk]
C[Free Tibet: I didn't count P17
]
(;B[lk]
(;W[lj]
(;B[fh]
(;W[gh]
(;B[gi]
(;W[ef]
(;B[ob]
C[Free Tibet: Recount now
]
(;W[mb]
(;B[bn]
(;W[bm]
(;B[kb]
C[Free Tibet: w75 b75
]
(;W[im]
(;B[lo]
(;W[mo]
(;B[mp]
(;W[jq]
(;B[kr]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: so w leading by just komi o.o
molpsy4cc44c16dacc4765: w j6?
]
(;W[go]
C[ConQuestGo: I think he included komi
Ildira: No, it's very close now.
Free Tibet: Yes komi included
💖 KoBa 💖: oh
GO_TEA: close
PolloLoco: tense
]
(;B[gn]
C[molpsy4cc44c16dacc4765: Now j6?
Free Tibet: @Ildira are you counting?
]
(;W[bp]
(;B[bo]
(;W[kq]
(;B[lr]
(;W[hm]
C[Volker_S_Halstenbek: this si so annoying :-)
arkan: K8 looks pretty big and sente
PolloLoco: H18?
]
(;B[gm]
C[AvikDragon55: Looks like white win 
PolloLoco: Oh right silly lol
]
(;W[ho]
(;B[fo]
(;W[gp]
C[PolloLoco: needs to get out on both sides. Short time is very taxing
]
(;B[in]
(;W[hb]
C[BAM8591: 0.5 point game now
GO_TEA: W+0.5?
]
(;B[ga]
(;W[jk]
C[pastek17: i have B ahead now
]
(;B[jb]
C[LVL79: b+0.5
ConQuestGo: [object Object\]
]
(;W[ln]
C[PolloLoco: [object Object\]
]
(;B[kn]
C[hypergeometric: why K9 rather than K8 ? 
AvikDragon55: close
GO_TEA: theres a weak point
AvikDragon55: i think b+1
tekken8: Yeah black seems ahead
]
(;W[cn]
C[ConQuestGo: [object Object\]
molpsy4cc44c16dacc4765: k8 l10
]
(;B[ap]
(;W[aq]
(;B[am]
(;W[al]
C[tekken8: By a lot actually
hypergeometric: thanks 
]
(;B[eg]
(;W[dn]
(;B[dg]
(;W[en]
(;B[fn]
(;W[ch]
(;B[ha]
(;W[ib]
(;B[ia]
(;W[ca]
(;B[da]
(;W[ie]
(;B[if]
(;W[an]
(;B[ao]
(;W[la]
(;B[ka]
C[AvikDragon55: black is winning
]
(;W[oa]
(;B[pa]
(;W[na]
(;B[lb]
(;W[am]
(;B[ma]
C[AvikDragon55: black wins
AvikDragon55: gg
]
(;W[le]
(;B[la]
(;W[lm]
(;B[km]
(;W[gd]
(;B[jd]
(;W[lc]
(;B[jc]
(;W[hd]
(;B[fg]
(;W[jl]
(;B[jp]
(;W[]
(;B[]
C[Welvang: thank you
artem92: thanks for the game
artem92: дякую
Welvang: couldnt see if p6 was working with time pressure :/
Welvang: the fight is messy anyway, i should play simply I guess
GO_TEA: gg
nisehao_: gg
fightyoats: gg
bashark: gg
💖 KoBa 💖: gg! that was amazingly close match!
Ferran: Was G16 really more important than Q18?
jiaxwu159: wow gg
PolloLoco: awesome
AvikDragon55: gg
AvikDragon55: pwp
AvikDragon55: wp
S_Alexander: damn
LVL79: Артем, вытаю з перемогою!!!!
LVL79: Артем, вітаю з перемогою!!!!
Lilltiger: not playing p6 was the loosing move
Lilltiger: very true :)
Lilltiger: well played, was an interesting game
LVL79: very close game
Jr4yA: [object Object\]
]
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