(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-01-25]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/30448372]
GN[Grand Prix Finale]
PB[Avtikh]
PW[roln90]
BR[3k]
WR[2d]
TM[2700]OT[20 fischer]
RE[W+15.5]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
;B[pd]
(;W[dp]
C[dlpigozzi: boom
dlpigozzi: ten-gen and mirror again?
]
(;B[qp]
C[Avtikh: have a good game
]
(;W[dc]
C[roln90: have a nice game
kusrabs: Илья, болеем!
]
(;B[oq]
(;W[df]
C[Badukness05: i bet in lyia
Badukness05: 500$
]
(;B[gc]
C[Badukness05: g17 missclick?
ano1910: Илья вперед!
]
(;W[np]
(;B[cq]
C[ronin3: holy moly
Badukness05: hi
ronin3: it's on \\o/
]
(;W[cp]
(;B[dq]
(;W[ep]
(;B[fr]
(;W[jd]
C[shinuito: maybe there's some follow up with d16?
AquaBot: Hello :)
Badukness05: hi aqua
S_Alexander: no weird moves today?
Goran33: и что делает камень G17?
ronin3: yes, can you play So Close to the corner because it is so loosely enclosed
]
(;B[ch]
C[Badukness05: oh g17 is click bait
]
(;W[cj]
C[ronin3: now D16 is blinking
]
(;B[eh]
C[Péraclès: hi guys
awaytoplay: [object Object\]
Péraclès: wow 93 wiewers.
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: man no one can play this ai moves
Badukness05: xD!
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: please if you post a variation and are dan, do not just put the first move :( us kyus are clueless
dlpigozzi: variation 19 looks human
shinuito: I can get away with just the first move so :P
awaytoplay: [object Object\]
ronin3: thank you! :D
AquaBot: [object Object\]
shinuito: [object Object\]
]
(;W[cg]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
lipins: D 10?
]
(;B[bg]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;W[bf]
(;B[ed]
(;W[ec]
C[lipins: Pour noir
AquaBot: They are playing the variation i put uo
AquaBot: [object Object\]
clywzach: usually e16 hopes to make miai of d16 and e14 but instead ilya plays e17. g17 changing things
AquaBot: [object Object\]
OndraKruml: G17 is a normal move nowadays? I dont think i have seen it
Badukness05: i never see g17 in my entire life
Zaphodian: Not really normal - but the aim is simple, to crosscut and O4 was a great response
ronin3: it is a tactic eg by black against the chinese, bad
ronin3: colors reversed
shinuito: It's really interesting how O4 factors in like that
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Welvang: Hi
Badukness05: hi tan
ronin3: hi \\o/
]
(;B[ef]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[fd]
(;B[de]
(;W[ce]
C[Welvang: They started the game a bit late so the stream will on later too :) I'll keep you updated
]
(;B[dg]
(;W[cf]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[fc]
C[ronin3: a bit of magic by blac here :O feels better than the previous variations 
shinuito: [object Object\]
ronin3: i sort of would have played C16 before cut tho
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(;W[di]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[cd]
(;W[dd]
(;B[ee]
(;W[bd]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
Badukness05: [object Object\]
clywzach: from king of the tiger mouth to king of the b2 bomber?
OndraKruml: to me this looks pretty great for white
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: I agree, but Ilya me not find F14
Yezurof: Will there be a commentary on Twitch EGF channel ?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[dh]
(;W[fe]
C[ronin3: yes, welvang said so a bit earlier
dlpigozzi: yep, tanguy will comment
Yezurof: ok thks
dlpigozzi: later on he said
Badukness05: b is in trouble?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: Ilya be like, "i don't need tesuji, just attack is fine" and later H16
OndraKruml: ah f14 was interesting, i thought f15 like ilya
clywzach: d12 important? has to fight w strongly now 
AquaBot: Game is even
]
(;B[ff]
(;W[hd]
(;B[cl]
C[Badukness05: f10
Badukness05: c8 pro o_o
ronin3: ah, tenuki go :D / chicken race
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: can someone understand aqua bot sequences?
Zaphodian: that's not a human variation and useless.
]
(;W[fq]
C[Zaphodian: They are bot variations that humans can't ever make sense of.
Fredda91: i can make sense of it
Fredda91: thx
dlpigozzi: ilya exchange... get that and the corner is mine
TomiP: Fredda91, but you fail captchas 
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: OK, now you know, FVredda
]
(;B[eq]
C[awaytoplay: i failed 3 captchas in a row today :/
Fredda91: how did u know Tomi
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Fredda91: :(
ronin3: maybe one starts to fail captchas aproaching 5 dan
AquaBot: If any of you have moves you want me to try I am happy to do those variations
]
(;W[gr]
(;B[gq]
(;W[fp]
C[Fredda91: what about white s18 can u pls teach
]
(;B[hr]
(;W[dl]
C[Badukness05: s18?
TomiP: I prefer T19
ronin3: 2-2 is a famous 6d ploy :P
dlpigozzi: B A14?
TomiP: I've been told that closer you play to the corner, safer it is. T19 must be super safe
Badukness05: s18 is the answer for r17
awaytoplay: t19 is very safe. your opponent will not attack this stone
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
clywzach: t19 is only safe if you have t1 to run to and then a1 and so forth
AquaBot: Fun fact: When I lead by a big margin, sometimes I give myself a handicap by playing T19
AquaBot: Really confuses my opponent
]
(;B[dm]
(;W[el]
C[Badukness05: thx for suggestion
dlpigozzi: [object Object\]
Yezurof: Sounds rude
]
(;B[ck]
(;W[dk]
C[kernel_m0d3: very rude indeed
]
(;B[bj]
(;W[cm]
C[ronin3: well i would still prefer t19 to opponent "pass"
TomiP: and suddenly T19 is the key stone to kill you
Fredda91: wow Aquabot
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Fredda91: so amazing u use a bot and selfhandicap urself
Yezurof: Both are like oponents yelling "Just resign already, I've lost all respect for you" to your face
Fredda91: im ur fan
Zaphodian: Nah, you know what's rude? To pass. I have done it because I thought it was even ruder of my opponent not to resign when he was 50 points behind.
Badukness05: Aquabot passed turing test
]
(;B[bm]
C[Fredda91: ive also passed
]
(;W[cn]
C[clywzach: lol
Badukness05: me too
Fredda91: tbf i was 15
Fredda91: even younger than oscar
awaytoplay: you have no idea how often i count 35 point wins on oro ... :)
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: We have all been younger than Oscar. Please don;t brag.
nidza: AquaBot so strong i envy your power
AquaBot: Same variation but the pros played a different way for same result haha
Badukness05: b have only 20 points, while w 50+
Badukness05: 30 pts lead
AquaBot: B and W are even
ronin3: variation 39 not so informative :D
Badukness05: the mirror game was an insult to go world
AquaBot: [object Object\]
liquid: why?
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
Yezurof: Most pro did it in official game at least one. So I guess all go world like to insult go world ?
Badukness05: yes
clywzach: without mirror go the go world would have one less fun thing to talk about
dlpigozzi: timewise was very good for ali
dlpigozzi: look today
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: Nonsense. mirror go is a great mental exercise for both players. 
ronin3: i broke aquabot :(
]
(;B[bi]
C[AquaBot: How so?
]
(;W[he]
C[liquid: he brought fire
clywzach: that's a beautiful visual aquabot
clywzach: i especially like the r10
ronin3: i hope it was not my comment that prompted you to draw on the board for 2 var in a row, sorry if so
AquaBot: Hahha I excpect W to invade R10
Zaphodian: B can still play at K18 to reduce
AquaBot: It was Badukness who counted B and W points
AquaBot: so I figured I'd give rough territory/moyo
dlpigozzi: auqabot, please peep E10
Badukness05: i liked that mojo territory
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: ah ok the pond aroudn m10 confounded me
AquaBot: E10 is not worth enough points
AquaBot: it isn't urgent to respond
]
(;B[kc]
(;W[jc]
C[dlpigozzi: thats true, but I see aji to separate at e7
]
(;B[kd]
C[Zaphodian: L17 is probably too human
kusrabs: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: my teacher told me L17 is a bad move usually
awaytoplay: "alphago played it, it can't be bad"
AquaBot: L17 lost them one point
Zaphodian: Well, these days, L17 can be a good move. B is aiming at K18 and cut at K15/J17 combi
clywzach: one point huh. dang teacher strikes again
ofer.zivony: seems like w doesn't have too much
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Game is even
Badukness05: triple bambo
]
(;W[qc]
C[ronin3: ilya counting corners
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Top left is 100% solid W territory
ofer.zivony: That doesn't look like a bot drawing..
]
(;B[pc]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;W[qd]
(;B[qe]
C[ofer.zivony: What are you AquaBot?..
]
(;W[re]
(;B[rf]
(;W[qf]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;B[pe]
(;W[rg]
(;B[rd]
(;W[sf]
(;B[rc]
(;W[qo]
(;B[po]
(;W[pn]
C[clywzach: that W territory drawing didnt age well
death_taxes: ilya blitzing again...
melox: [object Object\]
P4D24: Wow
Fredda91: ali still at 27 min
Fredda91: its ok
AquaBot: Game is even
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Ignroe the title of the variaton sorry
P4D24: A lot of people is here
dlpigozzi: ignroed
Welvang: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: Yup, the usual Monday morning crowd
ronin3: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Atari unlikely a pro will play
AquaBot: it is not a good move
AquaBot: R6 not good
ronin3: ah ok
]
(;B[pp]
(;W[on]
C[Zaphodian: @Ronin, if B can capture in the ladder (instead of 5) , usually it's already good for White.
AquaBot: Now R6 good
]
(;B[qn]
(;W[qm]
(;B[ro]
(;W[rn]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[og]
C[Welvang: The live is on : https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Welvang: Gonna start soon :)
Welvang: Ilya's playing fast
ofer.zivony: [object Object\]
Badukness05: welvang how you are 2k and 1p at same time?
Zaphodian: Nobody will ever find Variation #47
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: @ofer, Nice ladder!
ofer.zivony: :)
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: At first I hated the music on EuroGoFed's Twitch channel, but it grows on you.
]
(;W[kb]
C[Mkyle: Solid jams
]
(;B[lb]
(;W[jb]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: nice yose
]
(;B[qh]
C[kinneyjoseph2: Hey all. I'm confused about why the twitch stream is starting soon but here the game is well under way
Kanin: Anybody know the prize money for this event?
Badukness05: 100$ i think
fightyoats: they don't start straight away, cus an empty board is boring
AquaBot: Hey they played my variation :)
kinneyjoseph2: ah ok, thanks
Mkyle: Welvang doesn't get out of bed for less than 100 moves
fightyoats: lmao
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
ronin3: W suffering a bit :(
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: Suffering is not Ilya's style
AquaBot: Game is even.
AquaBot: If anything, it is in whites favour
ronin3: I would feel so bad after R12
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: How would you respond @ronin
dlpigozzi: m17 looks painful
Kanin: @ofer.zivony suffering is his style, just the suffering of his opponents
]
(;W[ph]
C[ofer.zivony: lol
AquaBot: Nope, they played my variation again @Zaphodian.
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ronin3: hold your horses, they just played the first move
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: I wonder if there are cases where b plays R13
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[pi]
C[ofer.zivony: Seems like Aqua's first variation is happening
]
(;W[pg]
(;B[oh]
(;W[qi]
C[dlpigozzi: v51 is still working
]
(;B[qj]
(;W[ri]
(;B[rj]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Yeah
AquaBot: Same variation I put up earlier
Badukness05: aquabot wins
dlpigozzi: 51
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: AquaBot, are you sai?
AquaBot: Hahha
]
(;W[qg]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[pj]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: n18 works?
AquaBot: W ahead by 3.5
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Qinglong: O3?
ofer.zivony: Was Q10 a big mistake (over the tiger-mouth)?
]
(;W[qo]
(;B[si]
(;W[rh]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Q10 was not a big mistake
Badukness05: aqua pls put variation with p10
]
(;B[qn]
(;W[qb]
(;B[rb]
(;W[qo]
(;B[af]
(;W[cc]
(;B[qn]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: thx :D
]
(;W[bl]
(;B[bk]
(;W[qo]
C[awaytoplay: is black supposed to play this ko?
AquaBot: No
Badukness05: how about g4?
AquaBot: Black should not be playing this ko
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Neither of them should be playing the ko
AquaBot: it isnt big enough
liso77: ko in fisher time is similar strategy like mirroro go for  Ali 
AquaBot: but it isnt a huge mistake to play it
AquaBot: [object Object\]
shai_simonson: L15 looks bigger?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
IJlpaard: L15 to defend N18
AquaBot: N7 Biggest move here now
]
(;B[rp]
C[AquaBot: Mistake by B to play S4, lost them 2 points
AquaBot: W is now ahead with a 5.5 point lead
awaytoplay: s4 https://i.redd.it/o370azixg5z21.png
ofer.zivony: But that's probably taking into account all the w potential
ofer.zivony: seems like b has more solid points, doesn't it?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
liso77: @aqua do you have greater computing power like https://www.twitch.tv/isibboi ? 
Whirly: what w potential?
kantanat100: ???
]
(;W[gp]
(;B[gs]
(;W[jp]
C[Whirly: ok now i see it lol
AquaBot: W mistake to play K4 lost 3 points
AquaBot: N7 is important move
AquaBot: Basically whoever gets N7 first gets 2 points
AquaBot: advantage
dlpigozzi: not so easy to see n7
AquaBot: N6 also good
ys3: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation if you want human analysis
kantanat100: Ok
xiaodaiboy: [object Object\]
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(;B[lp]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: considering b needs a ladder breaker n7 is not That hard to find
]
(;W[nq]
C[AquaBot: 5.5 loss by W playing O3
AquaBot: W shoul dhave played N6, N7 or M6
ofer.zivony: just cut now?
dlpigozzi: wow, now P5 is painful
ofer.zivony: but don't cut with that ladder!
AquaBot: [object Object\]
kantanat100: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Yes, this is why if B play P5, W lose 5.5 points
]
(;B[oo]
(;W[no]
(;B[nn]
C[dlpigozzi: there we go
]
(;W[nm]
(;B[mn]
C[ys3: isnt it weird how any human can just download a program and act like an ultimate authority on what is and isnt a good move in a pro game
Whirly: b ahead now?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
dlpigozzi: by a slivery
kantanat100: [object Object\]
Badukness05: He is Fujiwara no sai
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[or]
C[AquaBot: So 7 point loss for W over last few moves
]
(;B[pr]
C[death_taxes: i don't get ilya, he blitzed at the beginning of the cutting sequence and now is thinking...
dlpigozzi: wait to see wat Ilya can see and the AI dont
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ys3: its all kinda forced
]
(;W[lq]
C[Badukness05: p8?
Badukness05: well n7 is ...
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: imagine if w could see that sequences xD
dlpigozzi: I think he actually can
dlpigozzi: is reacting like trapped
]
(;B[kq]
C[dlpigozzi: but ali probably missed it
ofer.zivony: oh no, ladder is coming!
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[kp]
(;B[lo]
(;W[kr]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: aquabot is humiliating humans
ofer.zivony: [object Object\]
ys3: dont encourage him
]
(;B[ml]
C[dlpigozzi: aliiiiiii N3
dlpigozzi: ouch
ofer.zivony: Looks really nice for b
Zaphodian: B looks great now
Badukness05: at least w have m17 
AquaBot: B ahead by 7.5
death_taxes: serves him right for blitzing
kantanat100: I think black lead by 9.5
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Kamakiri: If it is endgame, I think Ilya will definitely close the the gap by at least 5 points. He was absolutely devastating the endgame yesterday.
dlpigozzi: wow, so now he got the even bigger group o f Q6
dlpigozzi: seems greedy but possible
ys3: the worst part about peopel jst pulling up AI is that kyu players can act smug about the players making mistakes
hypergeometric: doesn't B N3 kills the left white group ? 
ys3: "serves him right" come on
Zaphodian: How can you actually quantify that? But once you know that when playing, it will definitely help you
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Badukness05: [object Object\]
hypergeometric: thanks Badukness
Badukness05: np 
death_taxes: he keeps blitzing on all of his games, yesterday he blitzed a sequence with a huge trade of groups and blew a 10-15p lead 
dlpigozzi: looks like Ilya will now use the clock
death_taxes: i just don't get with 35min on the clock
]
(;W[nl]
(;B[mk]
(;W[pl]
C[ys3: you dont have to wait if its a forced sequence
death_taxes: yes, but the strategic evaluation of the sequence is what he blitzed
ofer.zivony: Any way to live if b S8?..
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: nice that all the ladders are good for b this time
dlpigozzi: except K3
dlpigozzi: :P
ofer.zivony: [object Object\]
dlpigozzi: go ali!!!
AquaBot: [object Object\]
dlpigozzi: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Wusa: who has the results of the other players?
ofer.zivony: [object Object\]
melox: [object Object\]
AquaBot: That is a good place to play Zivony
AquaBot: [object Object\]
dlpigozzi: https://www.eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
Wusa: thanks
]
(;B[rl]
C[melox: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: why not 4 at 5 in your variation?
Qinglong: cuz it lives then
fightyoats: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
ofer.zivony: I see
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: N7 O9 P9 best 3 moves to play for W but W is in big trouble. B ahead by 11.5 here
malishevserafym: [object Object\]
dlpigozzi: i think Ilya will tenuki
]
(;W[nk]
C[AquaBot: I'm going to call it. Unless B makes a mistake capturing W here, B wins.
dlpigozzi: Ilya will try
dlpigozzi: is probably mandatory
Yaka_Go: Seems black still has a small advantage even if white manages to live 
MynLife: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[nj]
C[kusrabs: Nervous time. I hope Ilia finds the decision. 
]
(;W[mm]
(;B[lm]
(;W[ll]
C[OndraKruml: so l18 was the mistake for ilya?
SeoulSeocho: hi
notGood justOk: hello
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
kusrabs: Psychomove
SeoulSeocho: black needs to make home at middle..
SeoulSeocho: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: L18 was ok
alkar: no l18 but k4
Kamakiri: [object Object\]
]
(;B[ok]
(;W[km]
(;B[ln]
(;W[lk]
(;B[mj]
(;W[kn]
C[AquaBot: game is even
hypergeometric: black is dead now no ? :( 
Kamakiri: It's a reminder how a professional can turn the tables so beautifully
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[ol]
C[AquaBot: Black is not dead
]
(;W[om]
(;B[qn]
C[hypergeometric: oh 
S_Alexander: so ali is playing well?
]
(;W[pb]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: 74= better B variation
SeoulSeocho: ㅋㅋ한국인 없나?
dondake: AquaBot sounds like a bot name. But they can replay viewers questions?
Celebrir: Can black ignore the ko?
Kamakiri: A human can organise a bot account
Celebrir: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
Kamakiri: [object Object\]
CarloTibaldi: W 4 in your variatio seems not reasonable. W would take away one of B liberties
AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[kl]
(;W[oc]
(;B[nd]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
Celebrir: Right, I thought it would be to easy... But at least they're local ko threat, right?
AquaBot: [object Object\]
CarloTibaldi: I don't think W has a chance to win that ko
AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[nb]
(;B[mb]
C[Celebrir: Not a ko anymore I think after L8
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
AquaBot: Ko continues
hypergeometric: Celebrir but the ladder doesn't work for black 
hypergeometric: no ?
]
(;W[kk]
(;B[jl]
C[Celebrir: [object Object\]
AquaBot: [object Object\]
ys3: tanguy thinks: one side or the other blundered after l9 but not sure who yet
]
(;W[im]
C[AquaBot: L9 was the mistake
hypergeometric: why not capture now
AquaBot: K8 was best response to L9
fatihgo: "why capture" is a better question
Whirly: well obviously no?
]
(;B[jk]
(;W[kj]
C[hypergeometric: If B doesn't capture I believe W can start the ko again 
]
(;B[jj]
(;W[ki]
C[Whirly: b will capture
Whirly: he must
]
(;B[ji]
(;W[kh]
C[hypergeometric: Maybe pushing one more time works
Probo: wow
AquaBot: N3 righ tnow
AquaBot: Yeah they played the variation i put up
]
(;B[pm]
(;W[jh]
C[hypergeometric: N3 looks nice 
BrunoArteaga: AquaBot is a bot really ? 
AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[ra]
C[palzol: "I am a human controlling KataGo AI."
ys3: ali trading k10 stones for q18 stones
AquaBot: B mistake playing S9, loss of  4 points
ys3: and question become who won the fight
BrunoArteaga: W H 11 seems like killing move 
fatihgo: wow he missed m19
AquaBot: S19 mistake
death_taxes: that's what it says so it avoids suspicion, it's truly an AI with a will of its own
ys3: s19 is fine
palzol: Well, AquaBot passed my turing test
AquaBot: O17 instead of S19
ys3: ok let me know when you read it and not plug it into bot
AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;W[la]
C[liquid: gg
AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[hi]
C[AquaBot: W ahead 7.5
BrunoArteaga: not anymore 
liquid: black did well
ys3: meanwhile tanguy said game over for black
pistodrake04: I have impression that white played quite gently
whatbaseball: what's the reasoning behind m19?
ys3: [object Object\]
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(;W[mc]
C[whatbaseball: oh i see
AquaBot: N3 good
Yaka_Go: s19 pretty much became a pass
]
(;B[ke]
(;W[hh]
C[AquaBot: W ahead 9.5
]
(;B[gh]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[ii]
(;B[nc]
(;W[lc]
C[OndraKruml: Ilya is like anime heroes, always gets into a desperate situation then summons the inner demon
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(;B[hj]
(;W[gg]
C[kusrabs: https://online-go.com/player/190182/OndraKruml , great
AquaBot: W ahead 12.5 points
Zaphodian: game looks over now
]
(;B[od]
(;W[ob]
C[liquid: man, black did so well -_-
liquid: ending was tragic
]
(;B[fi]
C[martin97: when did he mess up?
]
(;W[mr]
(;B[sd]
(;W[sb]
(;B[se]
(;W[rf]
C[BrunoArteaga: I am starting to like this place more than KGS 
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(;B[hp]
C[kusrabs: https://online-go.com/player/923443/BrunoArteaga , welcome. 
liquid: no strong players though
]
(;W[ho]
C[BrunoArteaga: thx
Gornador: @martin97 P9
]
(;B[gm]
C[Gornador: and then S19
Celebrir: Welcome Bruno :) And stronger players will come over time liquid, I'm suro of that
BrunoArteaga: yep 
BrunoArteaga: the ranking system is different... I guess harder here 
]
(;W[bn]
C[Celebrir: I agree with that
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(;B[hn]
(;W[in]
(;B[go]
(;W[io]
C[AquaBot: Biggst mistakes in game
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(;B[fl]
(;W[fn]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
💖 KoBa 💖: ogs is getting new rating system "any day now"
]
(;B[os]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[fk]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;B[gk]
(;W[fg]
C[BrunoArteaga: Ranking system is really important. It may make the difference concerning motivation :)
]
(;B[hg]
(;W[ih]
(;B[gf]
(;W[hf]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;B[fj]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
]
(;W[hl]
(;B[fm]
C[S_Alexander: Koba, can't wait to be dan
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(;W[em]
(;B[hk]
(;W[ig]
C[dondake: timeout ???
]
(;B[eg]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
S_Alexander: who is winning?
💖 KoBa 💖: yeah, the current one works great for estimating handicps between 2 players, but its its somewhat disheartening to see rank going down after winning a game 
]
(;W[bq]
C[BrunoArteaga: Or never moving like my 1 dan in KGS since 2008 
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(;B[br]
(;W[bp]
C[kusrabs: I hope you guys and girls become #p someday on my eyes
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(;B[md]
(;W[ma]
C[BrunoArteaga: P 14 is big I thought - now too late 
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(;B[lg]
C[AquaBot: [object Object\]
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(;W[ar]
(;B[bs]
(;W[iq]
(;B[hq]
C[MuYu: AquaBot, how many points did he lose in O3?
]
(;W[gn]
(;B[ae]
(;W[ad]
C[💖 KoBa 💖: how was o3 mistake, it looks natural xD
]
(;B[sh]
C[BrunoArteaga: T 12 big 
BrunoArteaga: ouch 
BrunoArteaga: A 16 mistake pose 
BrunoArteaga: yose 
]
(;W[lh]
(;B[mh]
(;W[kg]
(;B[lf]
(;W[ir]
(;B[nr]
(;W[am]
(;B[ek]
(;W[hm]
(;B[je]
(;W[ld]
(;B[pf]
(;W[qa]
(;B[le]
(;W[ie]
(;B[ge]
(;W[gd]
(;B[li]
(;W[lj]
(;B[mi]
(;W[gl]
(;B[fk]
(;W[ms]
C[MuYu: This is defined by 1.5 points :D
]
(;B[ci]
(;W[dj]
C[dondake: timeout for black has been increased ? Is there any rules for that ?
Grant001: so close
watara: It's Fisher time, you get 20 sec at every move
MuYu: It is Fischer
]
(;B[jf]
(;W[is]
(;B[hs]
(;W[ns]
(;B[or]
(;W[ak]
(;B[aj]
(;W[al]
C[dondake: thanks, I will read that rule.
]
(;B[ko]
(;W[hg]
(;B[fh]
(;W[be]
(;B[ag]
(;W[ij]
(;B[ik]
(;W[sc]
(;B[sj]
(;W[sa]
(;B[cr]
(;W[ip]
C[Scoby: https://senseis.xmp.net/?FischerTiming
]
(;B[ej]
(;W[en]
(;B[]
(;W[]
C[dondake: nice
Kamakiri: Bottom right
Kamakiri: 3 white stones
Fisherman_M: gg
]
(;B[]
(;W[mq]
(;B[]
(;W[]
C[S_Alexander: pros too lazy to finish
fightyoats: gg
S_Alexander: gg
Kamakiri: Good game! 
Mikkedn: gg
💖 KoBa 💖: gg!
gasana: gg
Schr0dinger: gg
ManyBears: gg!
sithari: Ilya champ or best of 7? 
S_Alexander: until the next round
Zaphodian: Congrats to Ilya. I am sorry for B's blunder at S19 and P9
💖 KoBa 💖: sithari, semi-finals next! https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
reves: [object Object\]
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