(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-01-28]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/30552463]
GN[Grand Prix Finale]
PB[Lukan]
PW[Avtikh]
BR[?]
WR[3k]
TM[2700]OT[20 fischer]
RE[B+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[Avtikh: have a nice game
Lukan: have a nice game!
kendfrey: hello
]
;B[pd]
C[kendfrey: hello
]
(;W[dp]
(;B[pq]
(;W[dd]
(;B[nc]
(;W[qo]
(;B[qp]
(;W[po]
(;B[nq]
(;W[qf]
C[bobsof: Let the games continue!
Zaphodian: R14 is quite adventurous.
]
(;B[qe]
(;W[pf]
(;B[qk]
C[Zaphodian: Usually, W will play 3 with or without exchanging 1 for 2 first.
Zaphodian: So R9 is a natural response
]
(;W[mf]
C[Zaphodian: N14 looks a little lukewarm
]
(;B[ok]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
muhammad2forever: Intredasting
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(;W[md]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;B[nd]
(;W[ne]
(;B[le]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: I see no alternative for N15 at this point
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;W[me]
(;B[lb]
(;W[np]
C[Welvang: Oh
Welvang: guess what
Welvang: [object Object\]
]
(;B[mq]
C[Zaphodian: What again? Again a good commentary? But this time without Ali, I guess.
Welvang: he won't have his word to say :)
]
(;W[mp]
(;B[lp]
C[Zaphodian: But this time, he says it with action.
]
(;W[lo]
(;B[kp]
C[sassycat7: L17 is quite big
Welvang: fast paced game
Welvang: x)
]
(;W[op]
(;B[oq]
(;W[qi]
C[Zaphodian: after building his walls, I expected r11 to be at N9
Zaphodian: At least B has an easy answer now
awaytoplay: time to look for a better answer then
]
(;B[mk]
C[Welvang: Live has started, i'll commentate this game in about 10 minutes since they play quite slow
Welvang: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
]
(;W[ko]
C[sassycat7: Hane now
]
(;B[jo]
C[dacat1: hane nowoki is a professional player who is infamous for his enfatuation with hanes
dacat1: ok i'll leave now...
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: bye =p
Zaphodian: another day, another troll :p
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;W[nl]
C[dacat1: im expecting the jump
Mkyle: Kyu level jokes
]
(;B[nk]
C[dacat1: [object Object\]
sassycat7: M7 better than l7?
dacat1: i had this joseki shape against Stanislaw and that was my choice at the time as well...
]
(;W[jp]
C[Welvang: [object Object\]
dacat1: in that case I skipped p4 because I want to wedge at p3 later for more money
awaytoplay: "i dont know what to do if he cuts me, so i cut first"
Zaphodian: Your cut is OK, my cut is OK.
dacat1: this cut smells like an overplay
kendfrey: cut yourself, wcgw
Palko: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: Only 2 responses I can think of: J5 and K6
dacat1: yes, we are human too @zaphodian
sassycat7: Something like f4 is possible
Zaphodian: K6 is definitely the sharper move, but with Lukan you never know.
dacat1: i like k6 here
awaytoplay: i can think of many more responses, but they are most likely not good
]
(;B[io]
C[dacat1: [object Object\]
]
(;W[jq]
(;B[kr]
C[Zaphodian: Theoretically, I can think of 361-36= 325. 
Palko: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: I agree, dacat.
Zaphodian: No sharp follow-ups, I think
awaytoplay: [object Object\]
dacat1: i think black will find moves much more easily after k6 i think
dacat1: @palko i don't see anything obvious 
Zaphodian: K8 seems reasonable.
dacat1: wait
Zaphodian: what for?
Palko: [object Object\]
dacat1: im expressing my surprise at j5
dacat1: i guess j5 also favours black though
Zaphodian: J5 has a Lukanian feel to it.
dacat1: lukanian
dacat1: hah
awaytoplay: lukewarmian?
]
(;W[jr]
C[dacat1: I use the term 'lukan button'
]
(;B[kq]
(;W[gq]
C[dacat1: you hit the lukan button to simplify and be slightly better
Welvang: [object Object\]
Welvang: cut seems bad
dacat1: useful tool, but overused occasionally by it's originator :D
Zaphodian: Yes, the cut looks like an overplay, but the alternative would be M7 or so
Welvang: commentator gonna comment
dacat1: i would play l7 and be happy
dacat1: i don't evene see the problm
dacat1: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
dacat1: xD
dacat1: isnt k8 more like the feeling
Zaphodian: Discliamer: I've got nothing against people who are happy.
dacat1: cut either way black plays r7 and is ok
dacat1: ***white plays r7
]
(;B[kl]
C[Zaphodian: Yes, K8 was suggested earlier by a 5d.
Welvang: [object Object\]
Palko: k8 is good, but not satisfactory enough 
dacat1: k8 not being satisfactory enough isn't k8's fault
dacat1: it's j5's fault
crjfisher: l8 looks great
Zaphodian: Ah, yes, Welvang. I like that cap. I suggested it instead of R11.
Palko: agreed
Sandmann6d: B m7 instead maybe?
]
(;W[rp]
(;B[rq]
(;W[pp]
(;B[qq]
C[dacat1: m7 looks possible
dacat1: w would hardly push through or anything
Zaphodian: Hmmm, white ran out of sente moves...
dacat1: now he has to actually think of something
dacat1: go is hard
Shakes Fish At Sky: nah - easy game
dacat1: if we follow his philosophy so far: 'when in doubt, cut', we can expect k6
ronin3: i wonder if O6 lives?
Palko: [object Object\]
sassycat7: Something like r7 
Palko: I'd bet 10k EGF channel points he will not play k6
dacat1: me too
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
FinrodFelagund: S6?
FinrodFelagund: Make life somehow
dacat1: but i would have bet 5k on that he wouldn't cut k4
FinrodFelagund: R7 better
Palko: I would bet all in he would cut k4, come on, he had to
Shakes Fish At Sky: Q8 no good?
dacat1: he had to?
Zaphodian: OK, but the real question is, how much are you gonna bet that he cuts at K6 next?
dacat1: isn't this just an awkward fight for white
dacat1: why would you do this to yourself
Palko: I don't know. White made points on bottom and black territory shrinked significantly
Palko: all white needs now is a good shape
Whirly: I'm sorry didn't you see his last games with ilya?
ronin3: maybe he's giving himself an handicap, like when you are fighting someone but you aren't getting mad enough, so you punch yourself in the face to release your full inner strength
Zaphodian: There are certain people who only feel happy in an uphill (= difficult) battle, like Palko (Am I wrong?)
]
(;W[qm]
C[ronin3: the winner is... Zaph! :-)
dacat1: I see @ palko
Zaphodian: Well, I have little right to say anything because that seems to be my style too. (If I observe myself from a distance).
dacat1: I'd really prioritize the group's safety/ability to run, also in order to keep n9 not-so-strong
dacat1: a cash grab the likes of k4 seems uncalled for imo
dacat1: but i guess it's fine if white just settles here
Palko: I think most people like won fights more than difficult ones :)
Zaphodian: well, Tanguy is commenting now... https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
Zaphodian: @Palko, the trick is to find an unfair fight.
]
(;B[kn]
(;W[ln]
(;B[km]
C[nidza: this is slow no?
2022: new update lit asf lmao im 2k now 
gojigs: i like black so far
dlpigozzi: the one Palko won against Ilya was mental
Zaphodian: @nidza, slow=Lukanian
SloMoFoGo: n11
FinrodFelagund: Very thick
SloMoFoGo: m7
death_taxes: i would take b here every single time, but AI says w+2.something
aesalon: seems pretty even
Palko: Now w had a dilemma, O6 or not
aesalon: easy to feel good about black because all of the game has been played on his side so far so he had the tempo
SloMoFoGo: n7 over o6
]
(;W[kc]
C[aesalon: but white has done well
SloMoFoGo: m16
Palko: Black should play O6 without thinking now
SloMoFoGo: bottom left for white is prom,ising
mcpudding: yy
LVL79: O11 for W is good or not?
mcpudding: play o6
SloMoFoGo: over[;ay?
SloMoFoGo: play*
Zaphodian: I agree, no thinking
LVL79: Pause???
crjfisher: how long does the pause last?
dlpigozzi: seems ali has no rush today
mcpudding: until Lukan consulted Katago
Zaphodian: @Oscar, are you happy with your 7th place? 
dacat1: whaaaa
dacat1: im 5th or 6th
Zaphodian: oops, wait
dacat1: im pretty ok with it: I'm getting lots of practice games against professionals which is valuable for improvement
Zaphodian: Sorry, I misunderstood that.
dacat1: if I can't quite get past them now I will if I keep getting to play them
dacat1: so I'm just happy i got out of the group and had the chance to play artem twice and then andrii
Zaphodian: That's true.
dacat1: so many practice games
dacat1: i get to play these guys once in a blue moon
Zaphodian: yup.
dacat1: and I'm doing ok, so that's nice
dacat1: so yes, pretty good :)
Zaphodian: Yes, I think you got stronger.
dacat1: thx :)
Zaphodian: I think yur reading has improved.
dacat1: my reading?
dacat1: huh
JanGret: How did you Andrii game go? 
dacat1: i won, 1.5
dacat1: they have the sgf on the website now
dlpigozzi: I can not find your game with andri
JanGret: Ah, very nice
dlpigozzi: why is not in ogs?
dacat1: because we accidentally played in privately
dlpigozzi: ok
dacat1: our bad :(
dlpigozzi: sgf file makes the work
dacat1: i missed the 'crowd'
Zaphodian: Yes. But that gives you more general overview of what's going on. (my opinion) 
JanGret: We speculated that Andrii had lost due to not showing up due to something happening in real life 
JanGret: Glad that it was just something like playing private
death_taxes: as i said, becoming pro now might be a bit difficult, since it seems there is still a bit of a gap (to my untrained amateurish eyes), but in 2 years if you keep at it you will be one of the favourites 
ApolloGo: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
dacat1: thanks @death_taxes
dacat1: unfortunately I'm not sure if there will be a tournament in 2023
death_taxes: you also have the advantage of age
dacat1: 2021 might be the last one for a while
JanGret: I think it will strongly depend on if 20201 is a 2 pro or 1 pro year :)
dacat1: so I better becoem the favourite this year ;)
Zaphodian: 2 years is too long. I already feel it is taking too long.
dacat1: i actually like it takes a long time
dacat1: not that many people are ready
death_taxes: well, hopefully
dacat1: I'd say at most two people in europe aren't pro, but should e
dacat1: *be
Zaphodian: When I first met you 3 years ago, I had the feeling you could be pro level in 1-2 years.
dacat1: and im not one of them :D
death_taxes: you're my favourite twitch streamer
dacat1: thx ^^ @death_taxes
]
(;B[lc]
C[Zaphodian: You mean Lukan and Siasio, I guess
]
(;W[ld]
(;B[jc]
C[dacat1: @zaphodian you *severely* overestimated my level
dacat1: but thx
dacat1: yes, Lukan and Siasio
aesalon: did stanislaw make pro?
dlpigozzi: ali stopped the game to join th stream
Zaphodian: Maybe
JanGret: Stanislaw = siasio
aesalon: i thought it would be him and lukan
aesalon: ah ok
dacat1: I think they are very close to pro level... sometimes they perform better than the pros 
death_taxes: it would be cool to have a pro from a non-east eu country
dacat1: Siasio often has more rating than some of the pros
aesalon: yeah for sure i think they are egf pro level
nidza: like tangyu?
dacat1: they definitely aren't bad candidates
death_taxes: well, i guess slovakia can be considered mid
Palko: France is a non-east country imo
aesalon: heavy favorites if there would be 2 qualifiers now
Zaphodian: yes, but that volatility is not good for a pro.
death_taxes: i keep forgetting Tang...
dacat1: Siasio is a bit... inconsistent yes
JanGret: The thing about being pro: You have to deliver, when it counts
Zaphodian: You always have to deliver, whether it counts or not. But when you are pro and have that level, you can do that.
The Treeman: Oscar, are you the best go play of all th time?
Coreon: also it would be nice to have younger pros. In Asia the pros usually peak between their mid and late twens so becoming a pro with 25 or later means that you're not developing significantly anymore...
]
(;W[kd]
(;B[kb]
(;W[mc]
C[The Treeman: Yea. but thing is different last century 
]
(;B[mb]
C[Zaphodian: @Treeman, Oscar will soon announce that on his Twitch channel.
The Treeman: those japanese masters 
dlpigozzi: if u can play good, he can play better
FinrodFelagund: How do you choose between K16 and L16 after K17?
Zaphodian: I can't believe B M17 and K17
death_taxes: why would w push at N17?
death_taxes: what is he gaining?
Palko: Black likes 2nd line points it seems
The Treeman: who is leading?
Palko: How did you call it, Lukanian?
Zaphodian: They are the most certains points, usually.
]
(;W[co]
C[Zaphodian: Yes, I called it Lukanian
death_taxes: w+3.5 Treeman
FinrodFelagund: I guess black is trying to avoid white sealing off the top side 
JanGret: I honestly think we need to grow the go community a bit, before we can really have a 16 year old pro...
]
(;B[cf]
C[Zaphodian: Our 16-year old pro may have been born already.
The Treeman: I think it is a very close game
paintcan: every computer is now potentially a pro player
gochesser_001: They are both Pro-player?
]
(;W[ch]
C[paintcan: the level of play should increase easily in the near future
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;B[ef]
C[death_taxes: time advantage like in all the previous games much more important than a couple of points imho
]
(;W[bd]
C[Zaphodian: White is 2p and Black is a top Euro-amateur
gochesser_001: Thanks
The Treeman: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: I think for most people B16 is difficult to find. However, the top is worth relatively little because B has a strong position at K17
death_taxes: more precisely, b is 2658 and w is 2722
aesalon: b16 is good. for some reason eu pros get into positions to play it a lot lol
The Treeman: Is there some ways to invade bot left corner?
]
(;B[be]
(;W[ec]
C[Zaphodian: B15 looks very slow
CheGuapara: is anyone streaming with this game right now?
aesalon: some ways to invade but nothing that lives unconditionally
gochesser_001: [object Object\]
FinrodFelagund: Some aji there but pretty secure as corners go imo Treeman
aesalon: ways to get forcing moves after invading
dacat1: e17 is somewhat honte
dacat1: the question is, is it more honte than it is slow?
dacat1: I'd be tempted to tenuki...
Zaphodian: @Che yes, streaming at https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
]
(;B[di]
(;W[dh]
C[Zaphodian: D11 is the normal move, I guess.
]
(;B[eh]
C[dacat1: d11 looks fine
A Pimp Named Snapback: Nice
CheGuapara: thanks zapho
gochesser_001: d11 move same as mine move
]
(;W[ci]
C[dacat1: that's the most effort we ever put into *complimenting* a move 
]
(;B[dj]
C[dacat1: usually we are all about the complaining :D
]
(;W[bk]
C[The Treeman: B has a lot center potential right?
dacat1: 'a lot' is a bit optimistic..
FinrodFelagund: Yeah, but two doors open
aesalon: not enough
death_taxes: yeah
dacat1: there will be like 3 invisible points for black in the center or something :D
au-delà: w take point and b only open potential look good for w
FinrodFelagund: only 3?
FinrodFelagund: I would have guessed at least 6
aesalon: the top was just so slow for black
dacat1: yeah, e11 and e13 cuts are a problem
nidza: time for b to use this walls . invade lower side somehow
dacat1: and white's l16 strength makes it hard to build
aesalon: black could make more than 3 if he worked for it
]
(;B[fi]
C[dacat1: if black does nothing and just lets the center sit as passive income
dacat1: it will be almost nothing
dacat1: ok now it will be more
]
(;W[dl]
C[aesalon: probably it is worth 10-14 poitns
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: lukas building influence is funny to watch
death_taxes: w will get more on left than b in middle
dacat1: lukan actually likes influence, so long as he uses it tobuild points 
dacat1: build points, not war
aesalon: yeah white will get too much if black just accepts it
dacat1: or something
dacat1: he affectionately calls potential his 'central stations'
Sandmann6d: Cold war
dacat1: [object Object\]
FinrodFelagund: Some attachment to G3 next?
FinrodFelagund: Don't know what else to do
]
(;B[gp]
C[Sandmann6d: [object Object\]
FinrodFelagund: ah
FinrodFelagund: I am finally right about something
]
(;W[fq]
C[dacat1: or maybe you are both wrong
au-delà: ^^
dacat1: (i think g4 is fine)
FinrodFelagund: Heh
dacat1: if I were black I would be considering trying to make life in the corner though
]
(;B[el]
(;W[em]
C[dacat1: [object Object\]
]
(;B[dk]
C[death_taxes: seems like b is trying to make points in the center?
FinrodFelagund: Sometimes you can close one door by forcing your opponent to keep their territory along the sides
FinrodFelagund: Seems hard here though
au-delà: making point without attacking is not good
kendfrey: white's corner is too big
]
(;W[dm]
C[death_taxes: b lost 2-3 points last couple of moves
TeleGo: black might be trying to excuse himself that he's gaining strength to do stuff in the upper left? seems bad tho
]
(;B[hq]
(;W[hr]
C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: who is better at yose between lukas and ali ?
]
(;B[fm]
C[Zaphodian: Ali
The Treeman: I think white might lead now
]
(;W[fn]
(;B[gm]
C[denisweber90: Is there any part of the game lukan is known to be particular strong at?
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: i have big respect for people who are good at this mysterious athing called Yose
]
(;W[gn]
(;B[hm]
C[Ashi1989: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: Lukan has this soft power
climu: K12?
nidza: g4 looks too soft
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: lukan has solid style
aesalon: endgame is probably one of his strengths. just ali is quite a bit better
Zaphodian: Endgame is not so difficult. But you have to study it a little.
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: even if i study, i have really troubles to calculate and count endgame durint a real game x)
The Treeman: but why Li chonghao is soo good at end game?
]
(;W[ji]
C[climu: damn
LVL79: Wow
aesalon: yeah this feels right. is there actually something nefarious in UL? i didnt get G17 variation
Zaphodian: It's a matter of practice. After a while you start 'knowing' the value of most basic endgame shapes.
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: yeah
Zaphodian: B has to attack
The Treeman: they are about to start an air fight 
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
climu: lol. I think pro easily get around 30 points in endgame against amateurs
Saddharmapundarika: n12?
Zaphodian: Yes, but not against top amateurs.
]
(;B[kh]
C[mikach27: L12
liquid: against 1kyus, yea
]
(;W[jh]
C[climu: I meant against dans
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: except shin jin seo, he get 10 points againt almost all pros
]
(;B[jg]
C[crjfisher: finally some fighting
FinrodFelagund: No other choice for black
Zaphodian: But Lukan only picks a fight when the conditions are very good for a fight or when the prospects are very bad 
]
(;W[kg]
C[The Treeman: [object Object\]
]
(;B[lh]
C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: maybe it's his weakness ?
FinrodFelagund: 4 is not right in that variation Treeman
Zaphodian: @treeman, why play 1?
FinrodFelagund: Neither is 1
The Treeman: I called that a 5k move haha
Zaphodian: neither is 3
Zaphodian: 3 moves wrong out of 5
]
(;W[ig]
(;B[jf]
C[dacat1: including a forced atari
The Treeman: okay : (
dacat1: i mean the moves aren't bad
dacat1: just not optimal I'd say
dacat1: m11 looks fine actually, I'd just skip l14 atari
Zaphodian: The world is a cold and unfriendly place...
]
(;W[gh]
C[The Treeman: Is the four white stones dangerous?
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
liquid: they are in danger
liquid: but not dangerous
Zaphodian: I think K11 was an overplay
liquid: agree
Zaphodian: K12 would have been fine
Saddharmapundarika: g13?
]
(;B[if]
C[climu: I said K12! I wish he d have listen
filip.diloom: F13 would be better than g13 in that case
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;W[hf]
C[The Treeman: Can W live inside?
Saddharmapundarika: now white gains thickness though
]
(;B[hg]
C[filip.diloom: w can't accept ko right he has a week group
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: some tips to be 6dan guys ?
Zaphodian: W cannot live, he has to connect somehow
filip.diloom: a weak group*
Free Tibet: Become 5d first
]
(;W[gg]
(;B[ih]
C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: DAMN, I didn' though about this step...
Free Tibet: Yeah, but then it's straightforward
aesalon: white actually couldnt connect and live?
aesalon: maybe would cause trouble with n15 group
Zaphodian: No, too dangerous
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: small center for bigger side
The Treeman: B have won center fight so far?
]
(;W[ii]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: [object Object\]
death_taxes: in the last 10-15 moves w has continuously losing ground and now the game is even
filip.diloom: why not just  H15
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
CarloTibaldi: Why not 3 at F14?
]
(;B[fd]
(;W[hh]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
Dima 2013: [object Object\]
]
(;B[ig]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
]
(;W[eg]
C[CarloTibaldi: [object Object\]
Zaphodian: No, W will just play J15
aesalon: black is dead there
Zaphodian: L14 is even better
CarloTibaldi: W M15
]
(;B[dg]
(;W[fg]
C[CarloTibaldi: sorry, WM14
kendfrey: katago estimates B to be ahead for the first time
filip.diloom: so f16 was a good move?
Zaphodian: [object Object\]
filip.diloom: well now it looks really good
The Treeman: Can OGS stream some pro games outside EU in the future?
The Treeman: like some word series
]
(;B[ee]
C[aesalon: f15 now?
aesalon: ah
CarloTibaldi: Thanks Zaphodian :-)
]
(;W[ge]
C[filip.diloom: it's as if white said let me make f16 usefull for you... But maybe there was nmothing else
]
(;B[jd]
C[DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: lukas for pro
bigwizard: They are actually playing on OGS correct? this is not just a relay
]
(;W[ek]
C[aesalon: huh this seems very out of the picture
aesalon: no way e8 worth it
Zaphodian: worth what?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: timesuji
aesalon: saving
]
(;B[gj]
(;W[hj]
C[filip.diloom: yes, basicly all european pro games have been played on OGS recently
filip.diloom: or all offical EGF games might be more corrent to say
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: tenuki abd play f17
]
(;B[fl]
C[elsky: w dying?
]
(;W[hc]
C[Free Tibet: Just sleeping
]
(;B[fc]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: semeai here we go
]
(;W[ib]
C[death_taxes: how the tables have turned, B+14 here
aesalon: yeah this is why i thought at least dont save e8
]
(;B[jb]
C[aesalon: surely black could play a different move than f8 that helps take liberties faster
]
(;W[hd]
C[aesalon: if not just ignore but maybe i misread tenuki
The Treeman: invade corner?
natec89: I think w g9 was a problem if b didn't respond locally
mikach27: G18 first I guess
climu: C17 is strong right?
]
(;B[gb]
C[sassycat7: F8 was only move
]
(;W[hb]
C[FinrodFelagund: [object Object\]
natec89: Maybe b could have responded with h9, but it feels like an unnecessary local loss
death_taxes: hm
death_taxes: B+52...
Free Tibet: What a game
aesalon: feels like local loss doesnt matter if it even means 1 liberty in captuing race
aesalon: but yeah maybe black wins even with f8
dacat1: what capturing race
Free Tibet: lol
aesalon: e15 vs f13 groups
]
(;B[cc]
C[dacat1: e17 may have been slow, but at least it's doing a great job of making the corner look solid 
dacat1: i think e15 is killing the corner
dacat1: that's why its not a race...
]
(;W[eb]
C[Zaphodian: Not even a rat race?
dacat1: maaayyybe a rat race
death_taxes: what's a rat race?
Zaphodian: or a turtle and hare race
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: the turtle cheated
Free Tibet: That's when you pay taxes until death
]
(;B[cd]
C[The Treeman: b live
]
(;W[fb]
(;B[gc]
(;W[lj]
C[Free Tibet: Ko
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: nop
natec89: Huh, I wonder why b paused
Free Tibet: Ko in like 30 moves
death_taxes: wow, that's a terrible spot for a pause
Zaphodian: It's good for Ali
death_taxes: it's good for b to read out the kill
dlpigozzi: very good indeed
Zaphodian: unless, ofc., it's not.
dacat1: its good for w to read out life
natec89: Does the tournament allow pauses?
Zaphodian: 'cause reads way faster
Zaphodian: oops, Ali reads much faster, I think.
]
(;B[mi]
C[Free Tibet: I think there should be the judge who might take a pause
]
(;W[mj]
C[Zaphodian: There is only no rest for the wicked.
]
(;B[nj]
C[Free Tibet: Lol
filip.diloom: aslong as the rules are clear and they follow it it should be ok
aesalon: there nothing in upper left? d15/c18?
]
(;W[ed]
(;B[fe]
C[au-delà:  w might be dead?
_redshanks: Think Lukan got upper left
Free Tibet: I don't mind the pause. They're playing on OGS
]
(;W[de]
(;B[df]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
The Treeman: w resign soon?
]
(;W[ce]
C[_redshanks: w still got bottom right no?
_redshanks: pretty solid position
]
(;B[bc]
C[Zaphodian: [object Object\]
filip.diloom: not nearly enough if he dies in the middle
]
(;W[ni]
C[filip.diloom: or top
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc: l10
]
(;B[kj]
C[Lukan: thanks
_redshanks: Think B also got a chance to take top right
Zaphodian: This should finish off W
dacat1: gg
_redshanks: gg
FinrodFelagund: gg
dacat1: see you on saturday, Lukan ;)
Zaphodian: Wow, unexpected fight
au-delà: k11 too deep
ManyBears: gg
dacat1: stanislaw frejlak vs. Artem Kachanovskyi in the semifinals starts in 20 minutes I think
filip.diloom: K11 might at least have been to deep when he had no time on the clock
]
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