(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2015-12-30]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/3589287]
GN[Tournament Game: Correspondence 9x9 RoundRobin 2015-12-30 01:00 (13652) R:1 (Kipcool vs pathogenix)]
PB[pathogenix]
PW[Kipcool]
BR[2k]
WR[16k]
TM[259200]OT[86400 fischer]
RE[B+R]
SZ[9]
KM[5.5]
RU[Japanese]
;B[ee]
(;W[ec]
(;B[cd]
(;W[gg]
(;B[ge]
(;W[fe]
(;B[ff]
(;W[fd]
(;B[gf]
(;W[cg]
(;B[hg]
(;W[df]
(;B[ef]
(;W[dd]
(;B[de]
(;W[ce]
(;B[be]
(;W[cf]
(;B[dc]
(;W[ed]
(;B[cc]
(;W[db]
(;B[cb]
(;W[ea]
(;B[gd]
C[Kipcool: it would be nice if you leave me a bit of territory in the end :)
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(;W[gc]
C[pathogenix: I'm not intentionally picking on you... I just haven't played in a long while, and I'm trying to remember how go works.
pathogenix: We can review afterward if you like :)
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(;B[gh]
C[Kipcool: I just started two weeks ago. Would be nice if you could point out my main mistakes afterwards indeed.
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(;W[eg]
C[pathogenix: glad to :)
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(;B[fg]
C[pathogenix: Right now, you need to go help those stones in the upper right. Black can kill them really easily
pathogenix: I think the stones in the lower left might be beyond help
Kipcool: ah... lol
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(;W[hd]
C[pathogenix: F8 is the move I want to play, I haven't read it out, but it looks *really* painful for white
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(;B[he]
C[Kipcool: That's the attack I just missed in another game :(
Kipcool: if you play F8 I would answeer G8
Kipcool: I believe you if you say it will not work, but I fail to see it for the moment.
Kipcool: ah I see now
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(;W[fb]
C[pathogenix: [object Object\]
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(;B[eh]
C[Kipcool: but now I can probably not prevent the invasion from H7 because I should have played H7 instead of H6 ?
pathogenix: so now what?
pathogenix: H6 is fine in itself, I Think
pathogenix: The problem is the weakness of that group
Kipcool: I hate this game :p (just kidding, but being a beginner give the feeling that I don't control anything)
pathogenix: Yeah, go is hard :(
Kipcool: I just got no clue for the next move ;)
pathogenix: You should protect your corner
Kipcool: top right or bottom left ?
pathogenix: Oh, top right
pathogenix: bottom left is dead, I'm just being safe
Kipcool: I am trying to evaluate if there is the possibility for forming two eyes in bottom left
pathogenix: If you think you can see a way to live down there, try it :)
pathogenix: Nothing to lose
Kipcool: ok, I will try, then probably resign when I see that it's a lost cause.
pathogenix: good luck :)
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(;W[dh]
(;B[ag]
C[pathogenix: Actually, I might have spoken too soon. This fight can get really complicated.
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(;W[bf]
C[Kipcool: if I knew how to answer your moves correctly ;)
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(;B[af]
(;W[ad]
(;B[bd]
C[Kipcool: I don't really see a way out. Just want to try something ;)
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(;W[ah]
(;B[bh]
(;W[ei]
(;B[fh]
C[Kipcool: I thought you would play D3
Kipcool: Ok then, thanks for the interesting game :)
pathogenix: and you :)
pathogenix: I don't need to play D3
pathogenix: that's already a false eye, so I can just connect and stay safe
pathogenix: [object Object\]
Kipcool: I don't know how you do these variation, I was hoping that you play D3, then I play B3 and try a ko threat.
pathogenix: one sec...
pathogenix: b3?
pathogenix: [object Object\]
Kipcool: yes
pathogenix: [object Object\]
Kipcool: ah didn't see this one
pathogenix: :)
Kipcool: thought you would then play A5
Kipcool: beginner... :)
pathogenix: and then you take the ko?
Kipcool: yes
pathogenix: Where do you think black would play then?
Kipcool: you could have just pass a few turns that I gain some advantage :)
Kipcool: No clue actually what black would do after that
Kipcool: I didn't plan that much in advance.
pathogenix: [object Object\]
pathogenix: and now you're in atari again
pathogenix: and if you connect, you just lose more stones
Kipcool: indeed this looks bad again :)
pathogenix: I'll see if I can dig up some of the variations that looked frightening to me
pathogenix: I think A3 is a good move for black
Kipcool: could you maybe point out my first wrong move in the game ?
pathogenix: yeah, sure... one sec
pathogenix: [object Object\]
Kipcool: ok :)
pathogenix: You're starting a fight where you have two liberties, but you're surrounded by two stones with three liberties each
pathogenix: now sometimes that is okay
pathogenix: but in this situation...
pathogenix: E7 -> F5 is a keima, a knight's move
pathogenix: and F5-> G3 is the same
Kipcool: I read that this is fine ?
pathogenix: Keima is a strong move for leaning and attacking, but it can be easily cut... so you're starting a fight where you will have lots of weak points
Kipcool: I mean not between two stones, but a knight move.
pathogenix: Show me what you read
pathogenix: (that's meant to sound friendly, not imperious)
Kipcool: heh :)
Kipcool: I just read the introduction by cho chikun so far.
pathogenix: have you done any problems?
Kipcool: yes
pathogenix: good :)
Kipcool: but I am not good at them at the moment ;)
pathogenix: I *suck* at go problems
pathogenix: I'm terrible at life and death, it's my shameful secret
Kipcool: I've learnt already that the obvious move is always wrong ;)
pathogenix: I guess it depends what you think is obvious... the basic instinct move is nearly always right
Kipcool: what are you using for problems ?
pathogenix: http://senseis.xmp.net/?BasicInstinct
Kipcool: android app, website, ...?
pathogenix: I have a bunch of PDFs, I use the gochild webite, and I have an Android app - Tsumego Pro
Kipcool: Ok I have the same app.
Kipcool: just discovered the goproblems website the other day, looks interesting as it adapts the problems to your level.
pathogenix: If you send me your email address, I can send you a PDF or two ;)
Kipcool:  kipmaster@gmail.com
Kipcool: thanks
pathogenix: np. Thanks again for the game, and welcome to OGS :)
pathogenix: sorry I was in KILL mode at the start, I'm just starting to play again after a long break.
Kipcool: I am winning some matches already :)
Kipcool: yeah no problem. Just too bad that there is no tournaments for beginners
pathogenix: I'm not surprised! You played well overall, I thought, but the wedge was wrong, and then you left to play in the lower-left which meant I could attack two groups at once
Kipcool: it's always all level mixed from what I have seen.
pathogenix: hmmm... I think there are some beginner groups
pathogenix: And I think you can start your own tournaments
pathogenix: The ladder is great, too, for working your way up from the bottom. That's how I started
Kipcool: I am in the ladder
Kipcool: in the 9x9, and I just started the 13x13.
Kipcool: 19 is too big ;)
pathogenix: Yeah, 19x19 is a totally different game. I was only playing the 9x9 so I could get back into reading
pathogenix: Much more emphasis on strategy on the larger board
pathogenix: you can lose a fight, but make it up somewhere else.
pathogenix: And at the 25-20 kyu range, you can get a huge lead in the opening by following some simple principles
pathogenix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-td9ah-cM2k
Kipcool: this looks nice
pathogenix: Watch *all* of his videos :)
pathogenix: Best DDK teacher on the internets
pathogenix: I <3 Nick Sibicky
Kipcool: Do all good go players actually have to read books and watch videos to learn =
pathogenix: I suppose it depends how many years you have available to learn ;)
Kipcool: Cause I am good at chess, but I never actually read books or anything.
pathogenix: Tsumego are a requirement, beause so much of go depends on your ability to read
Kipcool: I am a bit surprise that I suck at go ;)
pathogenix: the videos and books and things are really to correct your strategic understanding, or show you new shapes and techniques that aren't intuitively obvious
Kipcool: So I have a few videos to watch for my next week-end thanks ;)
pathogenix: But you don't need to read theory books until you're a single-digit kyu... just concentrate on staying connected, and keep doing the problems :)
pathogenix: good luck!
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