(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2024-09-08]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/67590231]
GN[IGLO]
PB[andr_andr]
PW[SIben]
BR[1d]
WR[2d]
TM[2400]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
RE[B+8.5]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[SIben: Have fun!
SIben: IGLO
andr_andr: enjoy the game!
andr_andr: IGLO
andr_andr: yes, the colors are assigned
]
;B[qd]
C[andr_andr: yes, the colors are assigned
]
(;W[dp]
(;B[dc]
(;W[pp]
(;B[cf]
C[SIben: I saw that on the page yeah
]
(;W[od]
(;B[lc]
(;W[pf]
(;B[oe]
(;W[pe]
(;B[pd]
(;W[nd]
(;B[og]
(;W[ld]
(;B[of]
(;W[re]
(;B[rd]
(;W[pg]
(;B[ph]
(;W[qh]
(;B[qi]
(;W[rg]
(;B[rh]
(;W[qg]
(;B[oi]
(;W[ri]
(;B[rj]
(;W[sh]
(;B[oc]
(;W[nc]
(;B[ob]
(;W[nh]
(;B[oh]
(;W[kc]
(;B[nb]
(;W[lb]
(;B[ic]
(;W[cn]
(;B[nq]
(;W[lq]
(;B[no]
(;W[pn]
(;B[kp]
(;W[lp]
(;B[lo]
(;W[kq]
(;B[jp]
(;W[jq]
(;B[ip]
(;W[hq]
(;B[go]
(;W[qj]
(;B[qk]
(;W[pj]
(;B[pm]
(;W[oj]
(;B[ni]
(;W[on]
(;B[qn]
(;W[qo]
(;B[nj]
(;W[ol]
(;B[nk]
(;W[pl]
(;B[me]
(;W[id]
(;B[hd]
(;W[ie]
(;B[jc]
(;W[hc]
(;B[jd]
(;W[jb]
(;B[ib]
(;W[le]
(;B[je]
(;W[mb]
(;B[ja]
(;W[ka]
(;B[kb]
(;W[pc]
(;B[pb]
(;W[jb]
(;B[ia]
(;W[mc]
(;B[kg]
(;W[ma]
(;B[kb]
(;W[lg]
(;B[mf]
(;W[jb]
(;B[kd]
(;W[md]
(;B[kb]
(;W[qc]
(;B[rc]
(;W[jb]
(;B[dq]
(;W[kb]
(;B[cp]
(;W[eq]
(;B[do]
(;W[ep]
(;B[co]
(;W[cq]
(;B[bq]
(;W[dr]
(;B[eo]
(;W[if]
(;B[gc]
(;W[de]
(;B[df]
(;W[fe]
(;B[ge]
(;W[gf]
(;B[ff]
(;W[ef]
(;B[fg]
(;W[eg]
(;B[ce]
(;W[fh]
(;B[gg]
(;W[gh]
(;B[hg]
(;W[ch]
(;B[cj]
(;W[di]
(;B[dj]
(;W[ej]
(;B[ek]
(;W[fk]
(;B[el]
(;W[fj]
(;B[ci]
(;W[fl]
(;B[dh]
(;W[eh]
(;B[dg]
(;W[em]
(;B[gm]
(;W[fm]
(;B[cm]
(;W[cl]
(;B[dm]
(;W[dn]
(;B[bm]
(;W[bn]
(;B[bl]
(;W[en]
(;B[fo]
(;W[il]
(;B[hk]
(;W[ii]
(;B[ig]
(;W[hl]
(;B[jn]
(;W[nn]
(;B[hi]
(;W[hh]
(;B[ij]
(;W[jj]
(;B[ji]
(;W[ih]
(;B[jk]
(;W[kj]
(;B[ik]
(;W[he]
(;B[hf]
(;W[gd]
(;B[jf]
(;W[gf]
(;B[jg]
(;W[jh]
(;B[kh]
(;W[ki]
(;B[fc]
(;W[ll]
(;B[kk]
(;W[lk]
(;B[jl]
(;W[lh]
(;B[lf]
(;W[hb]
(;B[ge]
(;W[bo]
(;B[bp]
(;W[gf]
(;B[dd]
(;W[ee]
(;B[ge]
(;W[gl]
(;B[mm]
(;W[lm]
(;B[ln]
(;W[mn]
(;B[mo]
(;W[ml]
(;B[hd]
(;W[km]
(;B[jm]
(;W[kn]
(;B[ko]
(;W[br]
(;B[pr]
(;W[pq]
(;B[or]
(;W[qr]
(;B[mr]
(;W[hn]
(;B[iq]
(;W[ho]
(;B[hp]
(;W[gp]
(;B[gq]
(;W[fp]
(;B[rr]
(;W[qs]
(;B[gr]
(;W[fr]
(;B[nl]
(;W[nm]
(;B[qe]
(;W[rf]
(;B[mi]
(;W[li]
(;B[in]
(;W[ke]
(;B[kf]
(;W[im]
(;B[fd]
(;W[io]
(;B[jo]
(;W[ed]
(;B[ec]
(;W[gi]
(;B[hj]
(;W[ei]
(;B[pi]
(;W[ok]
(;B[na]
(;W[ng]
(;B[qm]
(;W[gs]
(;B[hr]
(;W[am]
(;B[al]
(;W[an]
(;B[rp]
(;W[rq]
(;B[sq]
(;W[qq]
(;B[rk]
(;W[om]
(;B[ro]
(;W[ql]
(;B[rl]
(;W[rm]
(;B[rn]
(;W[sm]
(;B[sj]
(;W[sl]
(;B[si]
(;W[pk]
(;B[rh]
(;W[np]
(;B[mp]
(;W[ri]
(;B[gn]
(;W[hm]
(;B[rh]
(;W[qb]
(;B[rb]
(;W[ri]
(;B[mh]
(;W[sk]
(;B[mg]
(;W[ne]
(;B[nf]
(;W[op]
(;B[mq]
(;W[sd]
(;B[sc]
(;W[se]
(;B[oo]
(;W[po]
(;B[hs]
(;W[fs]
(;B[mj]
(;W[lj]
(;B[ps]
(;W[oq]
(;B[]
(;W[]
C[SIben: gg
andr_andr: thanks!
SIben: I messed up the right, you could kill btw
andr_andr: hm
andr_andr: when?
SIben: Live no condition
SIben: At the end
andr_andr: you mean by ignoring a ko threat?
SIben: No
SIben: No ko
SIben: Can you see the game?
SIben: Not sure how the review system works on OGS
andr_andr: I know, it's confusing
andr_andr: you need to share your review
SIben: Oh I see
SIben: But how lol
andr_andr: just above the chat
SIben: [object Object\]
andr_andr: you have "share" button
SIben: Ah this one
andr_andr: oh
andr_andr: I see
SIben: But yeah I was already losing at this point, I shouldn't do the exchange I did
andr_andr: technically, it's a ko still
SIben: Right, technically
andr_andr: but black has far more liberties
andr_andr: so of course it's better than what I played in the game
andr_andr: I see
andr_andr: after you managed to live in the middle, I was about to resign, actually
andr_andr: but then I looked at the board and realised it's not that bad for me
SIben: Yeah I was ahead
SIben: I messed up the play of the ko
SIben: In g15
andr_andr: yes, it was quite big, no?
andr_andr: because it was about the life of the whole black group
SIben: Hmmm well
SIben: I think you could live anyway
SIben: Oh nooo
SIben: I'm stupid
andr_andr: ;)
SIben: I forgot you played d16
SIben: Before that you could connect under
SIben: But that threat removed the possibility
andr_andr: oh I didn't see that
SIben: [object Object\]
andr_andr: ahh
andr_andr: nice one
SIben: So I just wanted to save the 4 stones in sente
SIben: Basically
andr_andr: but
SIben: But then I messed it up :)
andr_andr: [object Object\]
SIben: Hum you are right, I actually missed that one
SIben: So then it was a bigger ko :)
andr_andr: yeah, there was a lot of going on
SIben: I sincerely thought I could give you more trouble at the bottom
SIben: Which is why I just connected my group with n8
andr_andr: I see
SIben: But according to AI that was the blunder that costs me the game, before that white was quite ahead haha
andr_andr: I was surprised to see you play that move (N8)
andr_andr: yep
SIben: Well
SIben: I thought you would maybe do q2 or something
SIben: I didn't feel good for black, but it seems like it's not so easy to kill
andr_andr: hm
andr_andr: I thought I was dying there, indeed
SIben: :) hence I thought it's a free move
andr_andr: so was surprised that you agree just to exchange L3 group
SIben: But turns out it's not lol
andr_andr: hehe
SIben: hmm
andr_andr: [object Object\]
SIben: Yeah blocking is better
SIben: I didn't count
SIben: But it's a trade
SIben: I think you live
SIben: You will have an eye in the center
SIben: Can't remove it
SIben: [object Object\]
andr_andr: I was 100% sure, you'd block here and I didn't see a way to live
SIben: The stone in the middle can't remove the eye
SIben: [object Object\]
andr_andr: ah right
andr_andr: ok
SIben: But I also missed it earlier
SIben: Hence why n8
SIben: But in the end it was too weak
andr_andr: so the exchange was actually good, it seems
SIben: Should just fight the ko
andr_andr: yeah
SIben: Anyway, my friend is here
SIben: Thanks for the game, was fun :)
andr_andr: yes, I enjoyed it a lot, too
andr_andr: thanks - and good luck with other ones
SIben: You too!
SIben: Have a nice day
andr_andr: you too, see you!
]
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