(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2024-10-06]
PC[OGS: https://online-go.com/game/68404304]
GN[iglo 4]
PB[SIben]
PW[Moggetyrael]
BR[2d]
WR[3d]
TM[2400]OT[3x30 byo-yomi]
RE[B+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[SIben: Hi! Good game
SIben: IGLO
Moggetyrael: Hello
Moggetyrael: have a nice game
Moggetyrael: iglo
]
;B[pd]
C[Moggetyrael: iglo
]
(;W[dp]
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(;B[bg]
(;W[bh]
(;B[bf]
(;W[dh]
(;B[bd]
(;W[fc]
(;B[bb]
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(;B[lg]
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(;W[mj]
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(;B[hg]
C[SIben: thx for the game
Moggetyrael: thanks for the game
SIben: I was not so confident until this kill. I thought I'm winning but it's a difficult game
SIben: I think top left was good for you, no?
SIben: And bottom left good for me
Moggetyrael: Top left should be even
Moggetyrael: probably
SIben: I see
SIben: I felt in the end I only got 11-12 pts
SIben: And you got a nice wall
SIben: But f17 was maybe not so nicely placed
Moggetyrael: this was the idea
Moggetyrael: bottom left looks like a joseki
SIben: Hmmm
Moggetyrael: or something very similar
SIben: AI seems to think f5 is the mistake
SIben: Worth ~5 pts
Moggetyrael: what else, C2?
SIben: That is what it suggests
SIben: That's also what I expected
SIben: But yeah it' sprobably simpler how you played it
Moggetyrael: i thought it should be ok
SIben: I think it's OK
Moggetyrael: you have like 18 points
Moggetyrael: and I got sente
SIben: Yeah the overall situation is anyway OK for white
SIben: I thin kat that point the game is pretty even
SIben: Just wondering whether locally it's the best
Moggetyrael: I regreted playing L17
SIben: Hmm yeah I think it's not a great exchange
Moggetyrael: I thought I had to play it
Moggetyrael: but maybe I didn't
SIben: So I guess black can pick if you don't play it
SIben: Probably can trade f17 for m16
SIben: But I wouldn't :)
Moggetyrael: [object Object\]
SIben: I particularly didn't love f16 actually
SIben: Yeah I don't want this variation
SIben: I think that's hard for b
SIben: m16 seems more valuable
Moggetyrael: If you just connect around L17
Moggetyrael: then it will be better for white
Moggetyrael: than the game
SIben: Yeah I agree completely
SIben: So I think l17 makes for not such a good exchange
SIben: Also, f16 seems like a mistake
Moggetyrael: What can I play instead?
SIben: [object Object\]
SIben: Maybe this?
Moggetyrael: seems good
SIben: Not sure what b can do here
SIben: I also considered connection, then I would maybe e16 instead of f16
SIben: Simply because the sente turn seems a bit painful for the shape
SIben: AI seems to think that is the point where b becomes ahead and remains ahead btw
Moggetyrael: makes sense
Moggetyrael: It was too easy to live with those two stones
SIben: Yep, I think f16 is the cause
SIben: Too bad shape
SIben: After this I guess o9 is the last big mistake
SIben: Hm, is it
SIben: Well idk, I don't think there's a good way to get out of it for w anymore
Moggetyrael: At the point of o9 it looks I was already doomed
SIben: w will have to pay some taxes
SIben: Yeah
SIben: Maybe you can get out and sacrifice the two stones in the middle
SIben: But that sucks
Moggetyrael: yeah
SIben: I think that's the game. Anything else you wanted to look into?
Moggetyrael: not really
SIben: ok
SIben: Then thanks for the game, have a nice Sunday :)
Moggetyrael: thank you again
]
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