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CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
GN[AlphaGo vs. Lee Sedol - Game 1]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/114161]
PB[Lee Sedol (9p)]
PW[AlphaGo]
BR[8d]
WR[8d]
OT[Error: time control missing]
RE[?]
SZ[19]
KM[7.5]
RU[Chinese]

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akoveable: oups
akoveable: sorry
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YSR43: :D
AerialSnack: c14?
Fairgo: Hey, welcome to the relay! :)
NomGhost: c14 has been played
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Kid Icarus: ooh i think lee sedol is trying to fuck with alphago
Kid Icarus: theres a move at R8 now
hajoucha: hi, thanks for the relay, here the yt live stream lags horibly
thouis: I doubt that will work.
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YSR43: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 
thouis: (fucking with it, I mean)
Kid Icarus: and perhaps thats fuseki isnt in the database
thouis: there's no fuseki DB.
Chinitsu: nice!
AerialSnack: ^
thouis: Pure MCTS and deep networks.
Kid Icarus: well, i mean based on its training games, it has patterns in the programming right?
Fairgo: Time settings are 2 hours main time with 3 x 1 min byomi
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Kid Icarus: board positions it has 'seen' before 
thouis: Kid Icarus: yes, but only built up of local features
AerialSnack:  M16 seems kind of passive
thouis: So going "off-book" doesn't really cause it any more difficulty.
Pempu: where is this demo relayed from? They are several moves deeped in to the game already
thouis: Fairgo is relaying it, I believe, from youtube.
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HowToPlay?: youtube chat is a mess..... 
Kid Icarus: but if it hasnt experienced a position before, wouldnt that effect something?
Sidaroth: I see two more moves on the YT stream, but it is lagging a bit
AerialSnack: Muahaha, I'm able to guess some moves
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donjuan100: I don't know Kid Icarus, it played itself millions of times ... it's seen some shit
thouis: heh
Pempu: Relaying from a stream is pretty hard. No way to know move order 
thouis: it's played past lives of itself, too.
donjuan100: lolz^
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AerialSnack: Is there a way to make variations and keep what the person in charge of the review on the original line?
thouis: AerialSnack: what do you mean?
thouis: you can click to make your own variations (and share them using the share box, above)
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Kid Icarus: did they not explain to Michael Redmond then that there is no database?
AerialSnack: lol
thouis: possibly not.
AerialSnack: So far I have a 70% success rate with predicting moves
thouis: Well, there was the KGS training database, which one of the networks it uses was trained from.
thouis: But probably not in the way most people think about it
Pempu: Is the hardware for alphago the same as in Fan Hui game?
thouis: they've probably spun up more resources.
Pempu: probably...
thouis: And might be running their deeper (stronger, slower) network on it
thouis: but otherwise, I expect about the same.
Kid Icarus: seems like from google's perspective they'd want a commentator that knew a bit of the novelty of the program itself
pagia: I think black get a slightly behind now
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Kid Icarus: and the way it works
Sidaroth: I don't think he really understands the monte carlo method either
AerialSnack: I feel like this would be better without the commentators... 
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thouis: I have the sound off :)
thouis: I can read the paper for commentary
pperez333: they coulde have had a Google guy for the technical comments...
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AerialSnack: Why not P11?
S_Alexander: How strong the commentator?
apetresc: 9-dan pro
oshn: I'd liked it more with Japanese commentators
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Kid Icarus: its in korea tho
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hermitage171: where is the relay from?
hermitage171: i.e. what site?4
HowToPlay?: it was already said in chat
Kid Icarus: its streaming on youtube
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HowToPlay?: but its from youtube 
chopper: What significance does it have that Sedol was given black? I thought the more senior player usually got White? 
Kid Icarus: they nigiri'd
thouis: chopper: it's random, now
gamesorry: P11 leaves bad aji
chopper: ah
thouis: how does AG nigiri?  it doens't have hands
Kid Icarus: maybe its wrangler did
thouis: cheating!
Kid Icarus: or it just guesses even or odd
chopper: yeah, if it's random using a computer ... AG could have manipulated the results :P
tinuviel: isn't that why they're playing 5 games?
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chopper: i thought they were playing 3 ?
HowToPlay?: nope 5
Fairgo: Best of 5
chopper: wow, ok
YSR43: not best of 5 all 5 games
Fairgo: Right, my mistake
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AerialSnack: That was a lot of time for what seemed like an obvious move
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Zal: Got to make sure
dneg: b stick won't die right?
dneg: i'm scared :(
dneg: bots so good at capturing races
kamoro: I'd be more worried about it getting attacked for W profit
kamoro: If its only job is to live, it will live
arczyx: yeah
arczyx: if black get split here it'll be hard
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chopper: I wonder how likely this type of game is to make a player more nervous than usual. After all, they're probably quite jaded to being nervous, but this is ... a special event.
Pedro Páramo: Things turned into a fist fight faster than I expected
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AerialSnack: L14 nextx
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AerialSnack: M13 was a really good move
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chopper: "If I get defeated it might be negative for go, but it is inevitable in this modern life. But it won't destroy the value of go itself" -Lee
chopper: i guess he answered already
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Pempu: This game might become a masterpiece
HowToPlay?: The divine move might be found within these 5 games 
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thouis:  I feel like AG would prefer to be in fights.  I would expect its local play is stronger than its global play
AerialSnack: I know how Lee Seedol could win....
AerialSnack: Nuclear Tesuji
thouis: kick out the plug
Pedro Páramo: But for real. If Alpha Go wins this I will have to reconsider severely my thoughts on the limits of evolution. Is IA the future and we just defectuous flesh steppingstones of evolution?
dneg: MR is awesome, gotta watching this again
thouis: Pedro Páramo: same thing was said around chess.
thouis: I wonder what the next "milestone" is.
Pempu: JiuJitsu
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AerialSnack: Is there a different stream with different commentary?
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thouis: Pempu: driving in boston traffic
Bronze: how important is time?
philippe.beaudoin: AerialSnack: One is starting in 20 minutes on the AGA YouTube channel.
Pedro Páramo: Guess you are right, thouis. 
AerialSnack: I'd say relatively unimpotant Bronze\\
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Bronze: gotcha thats what a lot of my chess wins come down to
thouis: against machines?
Bronze: lol no other people
Kid Icarus: who is gonna comment on the AGA channel?
YSR43: this youtube stream keeps changing screen >:l
philippe.beaudoin: Kid Icarus: Myungwan Kim (9p)
Sidaroth: andrew and myungwan I think?
Kid Icarus: i thought he wasn't going to comment until game 3
DemDandelions: i wish i could have a better grasp on what's happening
Sidaroth: I think he is commented game 3 infront of a live audience, if I'm not mistaken
Kid Icarus: ah
thouis: Lee thinking a long time
AlmostMatt: When does the AGA channel intend to begin?
Ludens: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 
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AerialSnack: In about 15 minutes
AerialSnack: K15 seems like a strange move. I mean, it's what I would play, but that only adds to the confusion xD
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Tarqeq: it threatens the J16 group
Kid Icarus: black has to keep the cuts up
arczyx: if black didn't play there white would get connected too easily
Kid Icarus: so it doesnt become a one sided fight
chopper:  "How did you know? Oh Yeah! You're a top professional" -- my favorite line so far
Tarqeq: it's kind of interesting
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Traveller: :-)
Pedro Páramo: i guess lee is taking a risk trying to prove a point here. Who will read better in the end? Im nerveus allready
tankbard: I'm glad to see Alphago doesn't defy our conventional wisdom by enough that it did something different there
Pempu: Sedol seems a bit nervous
thouis: I would expect AG to read a lot better
arczyx: the hair is the cause
arczyx: i'm sure
arczyx: lol
thouis: Especially in complicated fights, where there are only a few moves to consider.
DemDandelions: computer getting psychological edge already
Shawnxiaoxu: exciting
thouis: the top group's not completely settled, either, I think
KillerDucky: At first I thought this fight would be bad for white but now I'm not sure...
Bronze: ^
donjuan100: LOL their giving sedol a hard time about his hair too
chopper: OMG, is he tryign to get Redmond uncomfrotable with praise? Redmon is handling it welll though
Kid Icarus: called that one
Kid Icarus: in my mind
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AerialSnack: This fight is pretty straightforward
AerialSnack: I think this fight was pretty bad for lee, both his stones that are separated are in danger
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arczyx: wow he wants to kill everything
Kid Icarus: thats how i feel when i play gnugo
thouis: G16?
chopper: I've called everything so far
dneg: how strong is the other commentator?
chopper: in my mind
arczyx: L11 doesn't work
Kid Icarus: he is john connor
dneg: yeah and? lol
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AerialSnack: L11?
AerialSnack: L11 kills the group, does it not?
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tesujikid1: lee can tka ethe four stones above
KillerDucky: Chris Garlock is AGA 3d
thouis: AerialSnack: you can click it out
AerialSnack: Yeah, but I'm not strong enough to tell what pros will do xD
arczyx: now L11 can work
arczyx: i think
tesujikid1: this looks like a good result for lee
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Bronze: don't think l11 is a good move
mattsan: Didn't really expect that.
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donjuan100: nope
kamoro: For W, I11 connects up his stones. For B, it's too slow.
DemDandelions: i dont get the logic behing n18
dneg: b still have left corner
darkplayah: man this is *really* complicated
yuri: had to turn off the stream. the mixture between professional analysis and explanation of the rules of the game was driving me crazy
dneg: 3-3 later or use some aji but gotta keep sente
Pempu: N18 makes a bit of eye space and protects against L16 L17 M17 cut
thouis: DemDandelions: making eye space, I Think
AerialSnack: n18 gives black eye space and takes away white territory at the same time
Zal: Doesnt N18 just establish some shape for territory
yuri: isn't it tempting to take the center stones?
DemDandelions: ok, thanks 
yuri: f17 wasn't happy anyways
Zal: That too
thouis: yuri: left side bigger?
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thouis: and if they try to run, attack for profit?
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Bronze: so why was L11 a good move?
dneg: oh alpha wanna keep top part
AerialSnack: L11 makes fights easier for black
thouis: Bronze: might just be too much to give up without a fight
AerialSnack: Because the shape is stronger
thouis: how settled is white upper right?  
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Traveller: Not very
yuri: seems like plenty of room
thouis: to me, too.  
yuri: not 100%, but ok
Zal: It seems okay
Zal: Not in eminent danger at the moment atleast 
Traveller: Agree with that
Bronze: does this have a marker for a removed stone?
yuri: cant believe we ended up with everyone settled
thouis: not everyone settled.
yuri: cept for poor f17
trohde: W J18, B P18
darkplayah: white is going for everything?!?!
thouis: white going for whatever makes it win :)
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AerialSnack: Bronze, no
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AerialSnack: White is pressuring I think
arczyx: before white 1 space jump
Pempu: uh oh! killing move!
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YSR43: d2. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 
darkplayah: is this guy really 3d or he is just "playing dumb"?
darkplayah: so can white get it?
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AerialSnack: They talked about that. There's a few theories they gave
tankbard: 48 WJ18, 49 BP18, 50 WN8, 51 BM7
AerialSnack: Both because Fan Hui played passively, and since Fan Hui was weaker, AG didn't need to fight
YSR43: this is the right move. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 
Fairgo: Thanks @trohde
trohde: <3
thouis: Bronze: it probably accepts fights that it thinks are good for it :)
itz.ye11ow: Kappa Kappa TAIWAN #1 Kappa Kappa
itz.ye11ow: oh, sorry, wrong chat.
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Bronze: Lol twitch viewer
tankbard: lol
tankbard: PJSalt
YSR43: BIblethump
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AerialSnack: Eh, the rules not changing is a lie. Points were calculated by how many stones you had on the board, and territory wasn't calculated at all
arczyx: wow black's in great danger
thouis: Oh how I wish I could see AG's move evaluation score.
Bronze: how valuable is j19?
Zal: To me it looks like whites in more danger
CylonBunny: Didn't think to see classic L&D this early
Bronze: or h19?
AerialSnack: J19 is not valuable at all?
tankbard: Yeah I don't know about that black group
dneg: man o man
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AerialSnack: black is looking dead
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thouis: white may be forcing some moves to make sure it can make eyes?
Zal: lol I love the commentator "it's probably alive..."
AerialSnack: How can it live?
CylonBunny: If Lee Sedol played it... It's alive
pagia: I think both white and black are not in danger. But  unfavorable for black
tankbard: lol
S_Alexander: When AGA starts?
llirret: p17 
DemDandelions: oh my, my brain is so confused by this commentary
CylonBunny: Pro vs 30 kyu commentary
NomGhost: yeah this is hilarious
Bronze: please i'm 25kyu
tankbard: lol
.Rev: AGA stream is starting
tankbard: This is amazing
NomGhost: high-level analysis mixed with absolute beginner explanations
CylonBunny: Yeah, he is playing the role of the 30kyu for all the nin players tuning in
NomGhost: yeah he's 'playing dumb' to make it accessible for casual people
Traveller: He is really 3D based on AGA play
llirret: just mute it LOL
tankbard: I like how they haven't actually defined an eye yet
thouis: filthy casuals, as we call them
Bronze: i'm assuming that an eye is capturing a single stone?
CylonBunny: They just need to pick a target audience and stick to it
AerialSnack: You're right, they haven't explained what an eye is xD
pperez333: btw, the AGA broadcasting just started
pperez333: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
MasterMind2349: Hi
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llirret: wow
trohde: Lee doesn’t look too happy
Zal: New beginners are probably like "Eyes" I can see them just fine
pagia: L18 is sharp!!!!
tinuviel: he looks focused, trohde
pagia: wrong ,L8 is sharp!
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AerialSnack: I don't get L8
tankbard: Wow, it wants the center group too
CylonBunny: W wants everything
YSR43: greedy machine
YSR43: >:l
YSR43: taking ppl's job taking ppl's houses
thouis: driving cars for us.
thouis: makign things for us.
thouis: damn machines.
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thouis: AG's all "cut cut cut"
DemDandelions: i'm reading robopocalypse atm, how fitting
AerialSnack: Someone explain K10 for me please
Zal: Gets that group the heck out
YSR43: it gotta live
Zal: Nice
Bronze: what about the black group on row 14?
CylonBunny: Connects and is threaten ing WS group
AerialSnack: Why not capture L8 instead?
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Bronze: pandanet or something
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lucius286: in danger. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H12 
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chopper: lol, redmond just got corrected
AerialSnack: I stopped watching that stream, what did he get corrected on?
Pempu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YLzxz7QCMI  badukTV live stream 
chopper: he started talking about a pin on the other commentator, saying it was from pandanet
chopper: and the other commentator said no, it's this other totally different thing
AerialSnack: bahaha
AerialSnack: Ugh, I need to sleep. I wish I lived in korea
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chopper: west coast it's only 9pm. you don't need to move THAT far
chopper: and I would NOT want to live in korea
chopper: great food, but ...
dneg: kimchi
Pempu: hehe 80k people watching official youtube stream and 45k watching badukTV stream :)
AerialSnack: I plan on moving to the west coast, actually
chopper: good plan :) just stay out of cali ;P
Bronze: its 1114 here and i have to wake up at 530
Fairgo: 11:15 here too
Toreg: 4;14pm
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mattsan: 12:15 AM :D
DemDandelions: 6am x_x
Sommelier: Sedol pulled back
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Sommelier: was about to play, then pulled back
philippe.beaudoin: Anybody watching the AGA broadcast?
AerialSnack: I am
pagia: May be Lee must to make a ko at upper left corner.
AerialSnack: It's kind of... subpar
zemotion: lol 
AerialSnack: Nah, Lee isn't doing anything in the upper left corner I thin
tankbard: Missing J11?
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philippe.beaudoin: The commentary is solid, the production needs work. :)
AerialSnack: ^^
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tankbard: W K12, B J10
Giuseppe Bonello: white's weak!
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StaIkerSan: jeez, i hope this chat makes a higher level discussion than explaining ataris
Zal: Honestly I'm just lost
Opodeldoc: That old game company?
darkplayah: i guess it's fine to help new people coming in... but yea im waiting yeagerly for myungwan's commentary
acTane: hey snap backs are serious business
AerialSnack: I've understood a good 80% of the game
thouis: I'm lost in my own games... I have no hope of understanding this one
Bronze: ^
philippe.beaudoin: ^^
tankbard: I'm not convinced that a new player would really get much out of talking about snapbacks <_<
crux00: ... well, it's for journalists and computer programmers as much as ppl who already know/like go ;)
Zal: Haha, this amount of fighting is something I've hardly experienced
tinuviel: probably can get higher level explanations on the aga youtube stream
yuri: its funny, when you begin, you are too violent. then you learn to settle down, and this kind of game is just frightening
AerialSnack: I was able to predict most of the first half of what has happened, but now it's byond me
Zal: Must be stressful
trohde: Myungwan is commenting onGA channel already https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZPKR7HzM_s
Zal: Now my games consist of," yeah you can have that, I dont want to fight you"
darkplayah: ah cool
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darkplayah: <3 myungwan
DawoonYi: this is coll
DawoonYi: cool
DawoonYi: can I check the estimated score on this game?
thouis: not on review boards...
thouis: you could download the sgf and feed it to gnugo or something
Scorpiour: Alphago is frightful
DawoonYi: many Thanks
yuri: that would be pretty useless
Zal: Lee is gaining a lot in the middle
DawoonYi: we can copy this game online. and then
mark5000: Crazy Stone thinks white is winning by 18 points
Opodeldoc: B+R
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DawoonYi: we can calculate this game in live.
yuri: probably isn't going to completely translate...is upper left going to wake up?
DawoonYi: thanks
luckymedie: right now black plus about 125
philippe.beaudoin: Looking at the board, this is so horizontal/vertical. Strange. :)
DemDandelions: oh my, they read twitchstyle nicknames
chauncey: I'd be scared as white
thouis: I'd be scared as either.
chauncey: yeah, I'd be scared as black too
CylonBunny: I'm scared
shanta: from the start
shanta: imo
shanta: lee sedol was on the defensive
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tankbard: @mark5000 Yeah but Crazy Stone's biased ;-)
Bronze: this seems very agressive
llirret: wow
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thouis: wow.
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YSR43: lol fun game
DemDandelions: this looks like me playing lol
Karet: "mine"
yuri: very strange. 
dneg: w looks funny
madswirljh: b corner
yuri: could j7 be looser?
luckymedie: that is game
YSR43: seems like white gotta jump lower right immidiately
llirret: both not making concession
thouis: yuri: I think W would get more aji out of it, then
luckymedie: Black secured victory
YSR43: is that a correct strategy?
Zal: Ouch I do not want to be white right about now
DrSFBrains40: Who is who?
Zal: Black Lee Sedol
tankbard: Lee Sedol is black
YSR43: B human W machine
Zal: White AlphaGO
DrSFBrains40: Thanks!
Bronze: white is the terminator black is sean connor
tankbard: Also that's a lot of open space in the lower left...
Pedro Páramo: Sedol B, AG is W
mark5000: Lee left the game board
thouis: AlphaGo quickly rearranges stones
YSR43: cigarette time
mark5000: Auto-resign in two minutes
thouis: looks innocent when he comes back
thouis: really?
thouis: no bathroom breaks?
muloka: auto resign really?
DemDandelions: central park hustler style
crux00: ... isn't that a joke about the rules here? :)
mark5000: I'm kidding. OGS does that not RL
thouis: yes.
thouis: just got it. 
tankbard: Whew
chauncey: Lee Sedol winning the mind games
Jadeite: hehe
YSR43: yea gotta use that computer psychology
CylonBunny: I wonder how AlphaGo decides how long to think about each move. This one is taking a lot longer than the last few
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Acumen: R5 was taken
AerialSnack: Wow, I leave for 5 minutes and Lee Sedol is kicking butt
Opodeldoc: Humans aren't over yet.
dneg: go lsd
yuri: still not settled...small b in corner, w alive
yuri: right?
CylonBunny: I'm still not entirely sure how Bs top will play out
CylonBunny: I assume it's alive because Lee Sedol
chauncey: isn't B just alive top?
farful: btop is alive and can always connect with r18
farful: or make two eyes with n14
Toreg: 67 dislikes, wtf
mark5000: Lee is checking to make sure Ke Jie isn't controlling the computer
Bronze: lol
Roybie: haha
Fairgo: lol
DawoonYi: ㅋㅋㅋㅋLOL
EIFY: lol
gamesorry: Ke Jie is here: http://sports.letv.com/match/122341003.html#live/1020160303210913
pagia: ^^
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Roybie: definitely having a shit, or a smoke, or both
Karet: Whoa
thouis: that is one hell of a tenuki
AerialSnack: Uhhh
AerialSnack: I was going to go to sleep
AerialSnack: But maybe not
thouis: not anymore!
calantir: holy crap
yuri: tenuki!!
blarbly: that was big 
Opodeldoc: Lee doesn't always tenuki, but when he does, damn...
AerialSnack: Well, it is always an option
muloka: AerialSnack: I know. I said g'nite to my friends 30 minutes ago.
madswirljh: it is big
tankbard: Probably fine, otherwise he'd need to finish any fighting in the lower right with sente
DrSFBrains40: It seems much bigger to me than R4.  Isn't it?
madswirljh: if he abandons that stone he can still get some big endgame on the side
yuri: well, that would be gote
tankbard: If white got that point after the fight in the lower right it'd look pretty bad
AerialSnack: Not necessarily DrSFBrains40, because white can kill Q3
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DrSFBrains40: wow
llirret: ...?
AerialSnack: WTF
blarbly: no...
AerialSnack: The tenukis
muloka: hahaha
Pedro Páramo: oooooooooohhh
llirret: wtf
acTane: ????????????
tankbard: lol
thouis: wha?
luckymedie: good move
madswirljh: cpu is getting competitive
Pempu: ok this is in!
chauncey: wtf is this
yuri: thats failicious...from my limited perspective
AerialSnack: PLEASE TELL ME WHAT THE COMMENTATORS ARE SAYING
YSR43: G_G 
madswirljh: white really wants to live
luckymedie: very strong
Bronze: am i confused because i'm stupid or what?
DrSFBrains40: Attack of the killer tenukis!
thouis: maybe AG lost?
Opodeldoc: AG decides corners are overrated
tankbard: They haven't said anything about G13 yet
Traveller: Which stream?
farful: can someone give me a link to korean commentary?
DemDandelions: derp
YSR43: alpago confused
AerialSnack: No, that was a terrible move, I'm pretty sure
YSR43: lool
Pempu: AlphaGo is aiming at 0,5 point win
AerialSnack: ^
arczyx: is this AG's way of resigning?
yuri: that just sucked
chauncey: fighting tenuki with tenuki
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Karet: Haha
crux00: G13 does look kinda derp, especiallly now with c6
acTane: #rekt
madswirljh: whites corner right now
Pempu: This is not the game BTW
CylonBunny: If either of these players played it - it's not a terrible move
madswirljh: thats like 1/5 of the board
luckymedie: excelleellent plY
madswirljh: this is the game
arczyx: rip AG
Traveller: That helps upper left
arczyx: long live humanity
tankbard: Yeah I'm curious as to what AG has in mind for G13, so to speak
acTane: helps upper left but 3-3 still live
AerialSnack: I mean, those two stones were already dead?
Pempu: They are going to undo :)
thouis: AG operator's probably all "wtf are you doing machine?"
mark5000: It reduces aji I guess
YSR43: lool
Roybie: "undo requested"
thouis: heh.
AerialSnack: I don't think AG operator's actually knows how to play that well?
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CylonBunny: Reduces aji they weren't totally dead
yuri: but in gote...now?
luckymedie: The program got over trained and has become broken
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mark5000: Mike doesn't like it. haha
mark5000: "A bit of a slow move"
tankbard: Excellent
yuri: a bit?
DemDandelions: i like how they talk about a move they dont show
AerialSnack: Oh yeah, it was a bit slow
Pempu: G13 removed aji from top left corner. Now it's all white's territory
tankbard: I wanna hear some sass
yuri: nothing left in the corner pempu?
mark5000: Chris: "We can introduce a new word" Mike: "Thick? Or slow?
thouis: If white thinks it's able to survive, and definitely up, solidifying the top makes some sense.
mark5000: Chris: "tenuki"
madswirljh: this actually doesn't seem that bad to me
thouis: Also, makes moves around C10 stronger, no?
acTane: lololol
AerialSnack: sure thois, but I mean, white gave up so much in the bottom left
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madswirljh: wait what
yuri: e3?
AerialSnack: Unless AG thinks that it can still easily get the corner? Maybe that aji was more of a threat than LSD's fighting?
thouis: I'm lost.
AerialSnack: AG is drunk
CylonBunny: New josrki? I have seen this move beffore
AerialSnack: I mean, it doesn't seem weak
AerialSnack: Just different
madswirljh: situational
thouis: I wonder how AG behaves when it can't find a win.
madswirljh: w gets a corner I guess
aik: did G13 protect against C17?
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DemDandelions: sepuku
YSR43: someone needs to hit alpago on head 
arczyx: will AG play more recklessly if it's behind?
quuxman: some bots just start playing ridiculously when they can't find a winning path
YSR43: so it can be fixed
arczyx: or just play normally all the time?
AerialSnack: white can still get the bottom right though
chauncey: monte carlo bots usually win small and lose spectacularly, alphago probably plays like that too
Pedro Páramo: It is wednesday my dudes
AerialSnack: If it gets sente
thouis: quite possibly.  safe moves that lead to a loss will quickly die out in the tree
Bronze: is alpha go actually losing right now? still seems like it could go either way
mark5000: I don't think this is the monte carlo case though. It seems AG over-estimates the position for itself
thouis: if it thought it was losing, it would probably resign.
AerialSnack: It looks like white is winning, but black has a lot of potential to come back, so even
thouis: mark5000: what do you mean?
yuri: seems like it could conceivably be over in 4-5 moves 
CylonBunny: Does it know how to resign? I'd think that would be the operators job just like finishing moves and passing
DemDandelions: i guess they could have some kind of go expert that could press the resign button before AG ridicules itself
YSR43: @bronze, it doesn't seem like white could secure more than black at the moment
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thouis: CylonBunny: it gives a win probabiilty, I think.  If that drops too low, they could resign
mark5000: Crazy Stone also over estimates right now. W+19.5
CylonBunny: This cross cut is amazing
thouis: how strong is Crazy STone?
yuri: can a dan comment? is crosscut really a good move here?
thouis: AG = cut cut cut
YSR43: around 1~3 level i think
YSR43: 1~3 dan
AerialSnack: Crosscut seems okay since white is locally stronger
thouis: 6 stones weaker than AG?
mark5000: It's 6d. At the level I'm running it, 3d
CylonBunny: AG went from passive to super aggressive. Google turned it to 11 I think
chauncey: maybe it thinks it's behind
Traveller: Likely
pagia: Is Alphago making a sabaki?
AerialSnack: Oh god, I was going to go to bed 45 minutes ago, I seriously have to go.
thouis: after that crosscut?
tankbard: LIES
Traveller: I should already be in bed
muloka: @AerialSnack, ditto. I'm off to sleep now.
yuri: sabaki in this case just means erasure?
tankbard: Just watch from bed :3
Fishbreath: I budgeted myself until 2am
CylonBunny: I'm in bed...
AerialSnack: I'm in bed too, but I need to be sleeping in this bed
tinuviel: our 6yo decided this was a great time to have an all out meltdown
CylonBunny: Myung Kim confirms this is not josrki he has ever seen
tinuviel: she's asleep now, thank god
Adarain: ah, kids :)
thouis: "naptime" spray is your friend
StaIkerSan: Myung Kim confirms he is in love with alpha go
Bronze: give her a go board
muloka: haha my kid is our bed right now... she's 4 and we play Go.
Roybie: he already decided alphago was a she
CylonBunny: Cool to see a neural net AI come up with new sequences...
dneg: lol
Traveller: I'm married to one
muloka: g'nite, enjoy the rest of the game.
thouis: Lee should tenuky.
Traveller: Cheers
Bronze: if it's anything like chess it will change things a lot
Baran: me too I have to go too ;_;
thouis: I'm giving myself 13 more minuts
Ketchup4: glad it is only 4pm in my place
trohde: what shall I say … 06:48 am in Germany …
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AerialSnack: I don't think I've ever met a girl that was this aggressive
AerialSnack: I wonder how much this will change how we play?
AerialSnack: Yeah, I should be off too, ciao
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Roybie: almost 6pm here, still a couple of hours before I need to go to work woot
CylonBunny: I have to be clocked in at my bench in 7 hrs...
Bronze: lawyer?
CylonBunny: Scientist
Fishbreath: From the perspective of an AI developer, this is a super-interesting game
Adarain: the timing is really inconvenient here, got up at 5 for the game, but won't be able to finish watching it
thouis: damn those koreans with their GMT+9 bullshit
thouis: I bet they did that on purpose.
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Adarain: you'd think that with alphago being european, they'd've found some timeframe that doesn't completely ignore europe
Adarain: but I guess sedol got to decide on times
thouis: So many more Go players in Asia, makes sense to go there.
lemmata: Well, live games aren't the best way to enjoy go anyways... commentary is always much better post-game
lemmata: Well, I take that back. I guess it's a matter of taste
calantir: hey lemmata!
calantir: long time no see
lemmata: Hi hi hi
calantir: welcome back
Pempu: They don't even play on prime time in Korea. 
lemmata: Long time ^^
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YSR43: they play after breakfast :)
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yuri: oh, snap
Bronze: as someone who sucks at this game that looked like a good move
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Adarain: well, all the moves you get to see in this game ought to be good moves, they are strong players after all ^^
Baran: ok gotta leave now, have fun guys !
YSR43: that 40 pts chunk lol
tinuviel: see ya, baran
yuri: seems like a sad time for w
lemmata: B70+ W50- according to WBaduk commentary
lemmata: not sure about the language (it doesn't sound like an exact count)
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Adarain: wouldn't top left have been much bigger?
Adarain: (for white)
lemmata: There's a lot of aji in the top left. Not completely white territory
Ketchup4: agree
thouis: not if black doesn't respond to M2
YSR43: yea black can just reduce ~10 by 3-3
Karet: This seems to strengthen white and prepare for the attack against bottom-right
lemmata: It would be interesting to see pro commentary. Myungwan said that AlphaGo actually has "intuition" of some sort.
kamoro: The original stream was talking about how important sente is. But isn't it less important here? Both upper right and lower left are big. If B takes one, W takes the other or vice versa.
Adarain: doesn't alphago have a problem with sente anyway?
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quuxman: B's wall in the bottom looks more valuable
yuri: isn't k18 yose....isn't that an insult?
Bronze: what is yose?
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Adarain: endgame move
Bronze: because he's forcing the resolution of that fight?
yuri: oh sorry, i missed the corner play at s18
Adarain: oh, that happened
Adarain: didn't see it either
yuri: but i already watched redmond read it out :)
Traveller: Almost not thinking time for that play in response to S18
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Traveller: not=no
quuxman: he had already planned it out
lemmata: This really makes me want to play go again... :-(
zemotion: play :D 
quuxman: breaking up the top group from the corner forces him to connect to the lone stone on the left, or like discussed by the commentators, start making eyes in the middle
DemDandelions: "yeah.... i'll do that"
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quuxman: yep, playing out exactly as the commenter predicted
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Opodeldoc: wow
arczyx: super aggressive
tankbard: wow
Pempu: this is lovely
thouis: so many wow
tankbard: what
mark5000: Cool
tankbard: Fighting spirit
thouis: dammit!
thouis: I was going to go to sleep
zemotion: wow 
calantir: too exciting
Antaranian: kiai
yuri: w fail
zemotion: ke jie said that 
calantir: guess we're stuck here
thouis: I wonder if AG has a way to signal "please slam this stone down"
quuxman: 102 is pretty aggressive, no?
mark5000: "A nice point--a commonly played move"
mark5000: lol
quuxman: looks like R10 can be obviously cut off
aik: how?
Bronze: not sure thats true
thouis: not easily
pagia: still have a weakness at point A
pagia: R14
thouis: it gets help from R5
Roybie: the commentators missed the exchanges at K18 which is annoying me 
quuxman: Roybie: wasn't that just an attempt to connect to F17 while extending the K16 group?
quuxman: I mean not an attempt, but a threat
Roybie: I don't mean talking about it, I mean missed it off their board
thouis: OK, I really have to sleep, now.
DemDandelions: i wish i wasnt aware of that
quuxman: oh haha, you're right
thouis: Goodnight, all.  I hope this continues to be exciting
DemDandelions: good night
tankbard: thouis is about to sleep, that means lsd is about to respond
tinuviel: goodnight, thouis!
tankbard: Any second now
thouis: Many thanks to Fairgo
Fairgo: Goodnight thouis!
DemDandelions: i wonder if there were bets on this ?
tankbard: So many bets
quuxman: so R8 is pretty sad
Adarain: there were many bets
DemDandelions: and if so, what were the ods
Adarain: pretty much 50-50
DemDandelions: oh...
Bronze: the dan9 bet that alphago would win 1 game
quuxman: but B's huge chunk in bottom middle makes up for losses on the right side
Adarain: my personal bet was alphago wins the first game and then lee wins everything else, but my layman opinion is that black is winning here
yuri: from my uninformed position it seems like b is just playing it out
Traveller: I think B ahead
Traveller: I think W agrees and is pushing a bit
yuri: but he's taking his time on this last move
chauncey: yeah, lots of time spent on this move
mark5000: Crazy Stone eased up a bit, now saying W+14.5
Traveller: LOTS of reading on this one
zemotion: really? 
zemotion: damn 
mark5000: Speaking personally, I slightly favor black.
zemotion: on chinese stream ke jie said that lee wins 
mark5000: Lower center is huge for B
Bronze: how come he thinks lee wins?
Luqman: Has anyone kept track of the time he's using now?
Traveller: Ke Jie would know how Lee would play
Bronze: over 6 minutes
mark5000: 56-54 AG-Lee
zemotion: mm i forgot, was tuning in and out a bit cuz they gossiped a lot...
Opodeldoc: gnugo thinks B+22 here
Traveller: Take a pillar of salt with that estimate
Bronze: hes at 10 minutes now i think
zemotion: but by earlier midgame he said lee sedol will win 5-0 and a bit more 
pagia: Just look R10 Alphago is 9P
chauncey: more grains of salt than possible go games
jovebob: wow
jelser: Sedol said: "Alphago made a winning move that humans cannot make" was he referring to 102?
Desolation: imagime that Alphago masters the divine move
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pagia: A. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 S11 R9 
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Luqman: Hmm quite a bit of time
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Traveller: Quick response from AG
Bronze: damn i'm going to be tired at work tomorrow
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Traveller: You and me both
zemotion: lol all of us 
Traveller: With plenty of company
calantir: fight lee fight!
Fairgo: It'll be worth it no worries :)
chauncey: gotta get up so early tomorrow...
bibadum: 13pm in Thailand no worry about working tomorrow neither :-)
tankbard: >:(
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Adarain: bah, need to go to school in a few minutes, I want to keep watching :/
tankbard: LSD looks unhappy
calantir: he was shaking his head
yuri: r8 dead? doesn't seem like it
calantir: was that his version of haylee's "reeeally?"
zemotion: lol i think he does that often 
Traveller: I suspect this isn't as easy as he was expecting
Bronze: can't white cut r8 off easily?
tankbard: I don't think this position is that trivially in his favor, but I guess I wouldn't know
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tankbard: He did spend 10 minutes reading before Q10
Traveller: True
yuri: seems like w is pretty screwed to me
Bronze: but white can capture the Q group right?
arczyx: if this play doesn't work white straight up lose
arczyx: especially since it's chinese rules
tankbard: It seems like if white manages to live, even small, that puts a big dent in B's territoy
Roybie: I'd like to see a KO
Roybie: to see how AG plays
Adarain: ko would be neat to see, yea
pagia: S10 anti R10 weakness
trohde: Did Myungwan say that Ali is probably stronger than he is?
pagia: S12 anti R10 weakness
yuri: redmond is looking upset too
zemotion: yeah i heard someone mention that 
calantir: really want to see the ko
zemotion: kinda crazy 
tankbard: Wasn't ko mentioned as one of AG's shortcomings in the analysis after Fan Hui?
Adarain: time to go, goodbye yall
calantir: night
pagia: goodbye :)
tankbard: He's really burning through his time now...
calantir: this is the crucial moment
calantir: if he gets an advantage here, he's well ahead
KetchupIV: the breaking point
tinuviel: goodnight, adarain
Zal: I left like 40 min ago and nothing has changed
darkplayah: myungwan kim says its close but B might be able to kill white attack
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Kabootle: good morning everyone
pagia: If black kill R10 group,may get gote so that white could kill R3 by sente
calantir: Redmond is saying black could give up S17 stones
calantir: to make Q3 stronger
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kamoro: @pagia but then after that, B has sente to live at C17?
Roybie: seems likely after that move
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Roybie: @calantir 
Aiko Akemi: anyone has the link to korean stream please..?
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yuri: sente seems big now
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pagia: yes,who get the sent will get lower right conner
StaIkerSan: Myung Kim say w might win whaaaaaat
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Roybie: he's just in love with ag
calantir: white's sente
gamesorry: Ke Jie also says that
zemotion: yeah pretty crazy 
StaIkerSan: who the hell will get the upper left corner
gor: even if white loses he still player well
gor: played*
calantir: if w plays a move in lower right, black takes upper left
Traveller: lower right larger than upper left
pagia: upper left is a ko
Roybie: haha the handler really slammed that one down
Zal: He was ready
Traveller: handler is one of the programmers
calantir: lol
zemotion: really? 
zemotion: cool 
pagia: alphago play at C17!!!!
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Manslay: if it was a human this would certainly mean "I won, go home Lee"
quuxman: so is this the greatest Go game yet?
gor: lower right looks huge
pagia: Now black is in danger...
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Traveller: Even I saw that sequence
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Manslay: w sente again
yuri: ? n
KetchupIV: ag is really stronger than everyone thought i believe
Acumen: T14 is points?
Traveller: AG was classed as Pro strength
chopper: how can redmond be so cold?
StaIkerSan: i cant believe how strong it is
Traveller: The only question was just how strong
Bronze: they made changes to AG between last months and now
gor: well,lee might still crush it in yose
gor: too early to judge
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Bronze: anyway i have to go to bed
Bronze: night all
Traveller: Night, Bronze
KillerDucky: what did Redmond say?
trohde: nighty night
mark5000: Crazy Stone took a real dive just now. W+4.5
Zal: This guy and tennis
calantir: he just doesn't seem nearly as anxious about the prospect of alphago winning
calantir: garlock seems nervous
Zal: lol
StaIkerSan: yose is normally an advantage for the AI, and the game is close, thats the thing...
Roybie: more tennis!
Zal: I like Go.. but in Tennis 
Roybie: haha
Zal: Comedy gold
Roybie: go lee, fight
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pagia: I am thinking of a question,does Alphago knows Chinese rule?
calantir: not protecting L3
Manslay: Lee went fighting from the move 9
zemotion: yeah it should 
KillerDucky: Alphago only knows Chinese rules
tankbard: Presumably its valuation function is based on that
pagia: oh thanks
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dneg: O_O
gor: if b wins the t16 ko then whites dragon might be in danger
mark5000: well
yuri: umm
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mark5000: Good move
yuri: b l1 not ok?
StaIkerSan: omg i want lee to win so badly
Roybie: redmond went over that yuri 
Roybie: i guess it's dangerous
yuri: stopped listening
zemotion: i want lee to win too :( 
Roybie: lee, shirked away from a fight...
yuri: oh, 1 stone too short
dneg: TEAM LSD \\o/ /o/ \\o\\
dneg: wew
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Pempu: It's better to put move numbers in the shared variations. Manually
acTane: they ran out of stones, this game
darkplayah: Maybe, but I'm sure Google has thrown a colossal, astonishing amount of computers at this
darkplayah: it seems like it scaled Elo logarithmically or something with number of GPUs, but 100x as many GPUs would still make a huge impact
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yuri: whoops
yuri: think they would know better
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acTane: like cmon google
tankbard: Well, I'm sure he's lost a few just dropping them too :P
gor: at this rate the dragon will die
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yuri: nw!
Roybie: redmond said this move would be bad for white
gor: i dont think p3 cut works
calantir: could white's dragon die?
calantir: that would be insane
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Roybie: that would be AWESOME
yuri: ls playing fast
mark5000: Probably not. There's eye spaces on the bottom and middle and top of it
chauncey: seems unlikely
gor: there is only one eye on top
gor: gote eye
gor: and after o9 its hard for white to build center eye
gor: of course black needs to play q15 first
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gor: p2 and the bottom eye is gone as well
yuri: redmond looks exhausted
theemathas: Why doesn't black play Q15 at some point?
darkhh: lol
Pempu: theemathas: not big enough (yet)
DrSFBrains40: Is T14 not big enough yet?
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Galuel: why P2 whould be better than Q2 ?
theemathas: At least it's going to guarantee that the dragon is alive
yuri: hf. b setting up the kill
theemathas: if white plays something on the upper right
gor: p2 is better because now r2 is not sente for white
Kugosaki Weichigo: bottom eye gone... lee shark dol smells blood
mark5000: This is a really interesting game
mark5000: So much violence
Zal: I like it!
StaIkerSan: this is the most interesting game ive ever seen
Fairgo: I love these kind of games
MasterMind2349: Hello
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Kugosaki Weichigo: interesting ones?
Zal: Fighting ones
Fairgo: ^
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Zal: Viewers actually almost at 90k
Zal: I thought It'd decline
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Zal: on YouTube
zemotion: yeah surprised 
gor: whats the youtube link?
zemotion: maybe more ppl tuning in in asia/europe? 
mark5000: https://gaming.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8
Fairgo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFr3K2DORc8
gor: ty
Pempu: The official stream is that. There are dozens of other streams also with 40k+ viewers
Kugosaki Weichigo: that twitch chat though...
yuri: MR is analyzing the kill
Opodeldoc: AG is considering resign.
StaIkerSan: first capture lél
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yuri: oh, thats over
darkhh: first blood
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Galuel: s1 played
mark5000: Lee Sedol is shaking his head
yuri: fast play by LSD
pagia: if white keep sente,probably win at least 10.5point
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mark5000: Slow play by AG
dneg: omg lsd u showed *_*
Roybie: does he think he's lost I wonder
dneg: them* :D
zemotion: ke jie says he loses 
chauncey: monte carlo bots take a lot of slow moves when they think they are comfortably ahead
cdybeijing: still playing?
yuri: w dead LR thought, right?
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yuri: no, sorry, not
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StaIkerSan: alpha go playing very slowly because it wins?
chauncey: possibly
mark5000: Mike says W has 70 points
mark5000: "Still could be a close game"
yuri: worried l1
Roybie: yeah seems big for either
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theemathas: was t5 really neccessary?
gor: i wonder if t16 can work for black
mark5000: Yes
yuri: yeah but gote for 1, sente for other
pagia: computer go lousy when he is getting ahead
gor: nvm
yuri: are we really down to the left side?
yuri: no andrei44
Zal: Play it out
Zal: You have the tools in fron tof you
Zal: haha
tankbard: That upper left corner is huge :/
Opodeldoc: 381 here
Opodeldoc: It's been tricling up
JoeGoh: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 
Zal: White is winning?
Zal: I bet 1 dollar on white
Zal: whoop
Zal: 412 people here? Why is it that the closer the game is to ending the more people come
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CuTy: L1 and C12 which one bigger?
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Andrei44: oh i see
Roybie: he didn't take the left side...
mark5000: Surprising
tankbard: Still haven't fixed K18/K19 lol
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Roybie: black wins by timeout
BlackTea: woah 380+ ppl
Traveller: New record!
tankbard: Well, AG probably has some search depth tuning based on remaining time
Roybie: yeah no doubt
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tankbard: Wonder what those graphs look like
hajoucha: BlackTea: what is "ppl"
gor: c3?
tinuviel: people
pagia: Lee has already lost I think
hajoucha: oh, I see
tinuviel: watching this relay
mark5000: I was looking at c3. Mike was looking at only D2 for some reason
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Giuseppe Bonello: ขาวมุมซ้ายล่างมีปัญหาแต่รอดแล้วว
AerialSnack: Wow, there's still so many people here
NejvětšíFaget: wow
Jordus: you can watch the game on youtube. They have the match video posted
Jordus: w/ English commentary from Michael Redmond I should say as well
Chinitsu: ugh whenever I get in a game with lot of chat my browser just freeze
Peng15: hello
jelser: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
jelser: d2. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
SuperGeheim: Heya
wingly: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
CuTy: i think Lee win 4-1
CuTy: but
animeboy225: Hello
Billy31: hi. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
Zizigooloo: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
Zizigooloo: d2. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
Zizigooloo: sry
derpziIIa: Does anyone have the link to Round 2 of AlphaGo vs Lee Sedol?
CarlPatenaudePoulin: https://online-go.com/demo/114754
hajoucha: speaking of links - could you please send a link to Round 3 rely? (unfortunately, I deleted it by mistake)...
hajoucha: oh, I found it on the game 2 rely: https://online-go.com/demo/115995
DennisNg: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
DennisNg: d2. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 
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dingrite1: i dont see how black can win this, its starting to get exponentially easier for AG with every move and Lee doesn't appear to have an advantage.. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 H13 D2 
Fumbar: man, what a game
Fumbar: i'm very excited
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Pempu: dingrite1: why did you share a variation with no stones?-)
Giuseppe Bonello: lol
bmc: exponential is not the right word :)
dingrite1: mistake, the closer to the endgame this gets the better AG can execute its MCTS
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Kabootle: they are having one right now
Kabootle: oh wow, it seems to be over
Kabootle: he resigned
Kabootle: this was awesome, time to go to work :(
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pagia: white now is sure win :(
Giuseppe Bonello: oh
nogtv: mcts?
quuxman: I expected Lee to play in the left middle before the bottom left corner
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Manslay: sure win. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 H13 D2 D10 B3 C3 C2 B4 P17 E5 F5 F9 
generalbaguette: Around 50 GPUs for playin, I think.
generalbaguette: And around 25 thousand GPUs for training.
generalbaguette: It's more complicated than minimax.
generalbaguette: They explain it in the paper.
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dingrite1: monte carlo tree search
Traveller: AGA feed says so
nogtv: ah, thank you
Traveller: yep
bibadum: how many cpus and storage does it use ?
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Roybie: ko!
BlackTea: 405 !!
Traveller: 411
yuri: no ko :(
yuri: wth
trohde: 412
Andrei44: a3 c3 a4
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Tarot: a4 was all about making life. I probably would've hastily played a3.
Tarot: Or, actually perhaps would've played e5 and either gotten into trouble or exterminated d7 group.
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Traveller: Europe waking up?
quuxman: all I know is it uses 6KW of power
Andrei44: okay, rule of 1-2-3
dingrite1: 1200 cpus
gor: i didnt know we have 400 users @ ogs
trohde: 92.860 watching the DeepMind YT channel meanwhile, an hour ago it were a lot less
zomega: I'm here for alternate analysis (US, EST)
zomega: Reddit brought me here
theemathas: Who's leading?
opache: better chat here as well lol
CarlPatenaudePoulin: hi folks
nogtv: ogs ftw
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CarlPatenaudePoulin: I don't know anything about go, but I'm learning neural nets
nogtv: zomega: link?
tankbard: LSD play pretty fast now
CarlPatenaudePoulin: https://www.reddit.com/r/baduk/comments/49g1bv/alphago_and_lee_sedol_mega_thread/?sort=new
opache: lee sedol looking nervous
Traveller: White is ahead
juliancamilo.osorio: Lol Carl
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juliancamilo.osorio: Weird to see you in here
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CarlPatenaudePoulin: sup dawg
juliancamilo.osorio: man, we have class early tomorrow
CarlPatenaudePoulin: ;___; don't tell Jaksic I'm doing this instead of studying for his midterm
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dingrite1: when you think about it, they train AG in generations. white was likely ahead the entire time and mere humans couldnt see it.
gor: usually mere humans can count as well
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zomega: It'd be really interesting to see AG's internal heuristics over the course of the game...
dingrite1: it doesnt use any heuristics
juliancamilo.osorio: yeah, going right back to that right after the score is announced
juliancamilo.osorio: (Not really. going to sleep immediately)
pagia: white still get 10.5-9.5point ahead
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zomega: The output of the minimax'd heurisitic net on current board position.
Manslay: there's no minimax
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Manslay: it just googles the next move
theemathas: pagia: did you count the komi?
zomega: I'm aware.
dingrite1: it has 2 neural nets, one for cutting down the search space by suggesting likely moves and another for scoring the board. then its just a clever application of MC tree search.
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DemDandelions: the left guy isn't adding much overall
chauncey: I'm expecting a new paper after this series
dingrite1: the board score net could be said to be a heuristic by some stretch of the imagination, but its a hueristic validated with millions of games.
chauncey: my guess is they've added something new more than just extra training
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zomega: Extra compute? :P
chauncey: probably not
dingrite1: they are clever, they just throw out the old games and use the millions of generated games to train the next AG generation. so they can effectivelly improve with just self-play.
chauncey: something novel that wasn't in the paper
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chauncey: I'm an AI researcher so I doubt that extra training can scale like alphago has
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dingrite1: the quality of the generated games due to self play grow sin quality.
chauncey: you usually get diminishing returns and they clearly aren't getting that
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Manslay: its Ke Jie behind the screen
generalbaguette: Self-play has been known since TD-Gammon in the early 90s.
Seb32: ^
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chauncey: more training doesnt lead to improvement after a while
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dingrite1: but they arent using self-play just to improve the policy network, they are keeping that data to later train the next generation of the scoring net - hence the massive improvement
Traveller: I'd hate to see the time run out
Manslay: white is not that much ahead actually... but theres no chance black could catch up
bmc: chauncey I don't think that's true in this case
chauncey: it should scale logarithmically but logarithmic growth is extremely slow
apetresc: Traveller, there's byo-yomi so don't worry :)
Traveller: You get to a limit based on the scoring algorithm
phil.bordelon: Been sitting and watching people chat here about AlphaGo and wishing I could talk more about how it works :p
bmc: there's no reason self-play and reinforcement learning would stop getting stronger
tanerr: AlphaGO please beat the left guy, i dont want to hear him!
Traveller: Just throughing more iron doesn't help enough
Traveller: throwing
dingrite1: you cant say logarithmic when the dataset is constantly evolving. but we dont have access to deepmind so we can just speculate
darkplayah: right, but 100x as many GPUs was still a significant Elo advantage. At this level I think it can make the difference.
darkplayah: I think it was decisive in reading really far into those weird moves
trohde: Myungwan allegedly said for the 2nd time that Ali is stronger than he is
chauncey: they saw a very small improvement in Elo for distributed alphago, 100x more GPUs would not be a very big difference
chauncey: watch for another paper soon
tankbard: Still haven't seen AG in a ko fight
Manslay: really?
dingrite1: it can read into local space probably very deeply, thats the sort of thing they didnt do in their paper but should have.
chauncey: it's probably in the program but not the paper since it isn't interesting to the machine learning community
DemDandelions: redmond basically telling garlock to s**t up
Traveller: About time
Andrei44: i wanna close E5 so badly :)
gor: lee looks nervous
Traveller: Search gets better in endgame
tankbard: That looked like a resign
tanerr: YES, please GARLOCK shut up!
KetchupIV: GG
tankbard: GG
farful: gg
HongTatsanaviriyaporn: Garlock so stupid
Karet: gg
Fairgo: Lee Sedol has resigned
tankbard: Looks like W+10 by my rough count?
Claint: yep. Lee has resigned.
dneg: lol
quuxman: sad
calantir: damn
zemotion: so sad T_T 
pagia: With out komi seems still white wins....:(
nogtv: resign?
gor: who played alpha moves on the board?
nogtv: or pass pass
CarlPatenaudePoulin: OOOOOOOO
Traveller: Wow!!
Karet: Seems pretty shaken now
generalbaguette: Lead programmer of alphago put the stones on.
dneg: i don't feel like watching the commentary now cos of the unsatisfied expectators - bad jokes ? of ? lol
philippe.beaudoin: Crazy.
Manslay: Lee wouldn't sleep tonight
dneg: but LSD WHY :(
chauncey: Lee is really shaken
dneg: i wanna cry
tankbard: Yeah, he's going to be studying this hard
phil.bordelon: Amazing.
tankbard: Damn though
Traveller: Why I'm listening to the AGA feed
bibadum: lol or maybe since there's millions of dollars in game there a bunker full of chinese children used as neural network :-D  Like in movie "The Divine Move" :-D
dneg: so wait
dneg: what is the losing move for b?
chauncey: his whole lifes work but he gets beaten by a program, ouch :(
generalbaguette: Latency of children is too high.
dneg: by how much is it leading?
bibadum: you can lower children latency using meth
chauncey: it will happen to a lot of humans soon
dneg: why didn't b take left side........
vlin: B overplayed the upper battle, then never had a chance since.
Fairgo: Thanks everyone for watching!
dneg: i cannot unsee
dneg: what i saw
KetchupIV: it is a good game
Luqman: Thank you for relaying!
tanerr: Thank you Fairgo
Traveller: Thanks FAirgo
trohde: THANK YOU, Fairgo!
zemotion: thank you so much 
hajoucha: thank you for rely. Helped a lot here...
trohde: this was awesome
Traveller: 435+ watching
generalbaguette: Thanks!
KetchupIV: time to review the game
pagia: thanks!
phil.bordelon: Thanks for doing this, Fairgo.
tankbard: Yeah, can't wait to see the commentary for this
StaIkerSan: omagad what did just happen
tankbard: thx fairgo
vlin: Lee needs better opening.
dingrite1: by how much was AG winning at the end?
Fumbar: something ilke 4 or five points i believe
Fumbar: within komi
Luqman: Wow, really close...
eevolt: what a rush!
calantir: Welcome guests to the recording of this exciting game! I recommend you make an account on OGS so that you can play games, ask questions, and learn more about the game of Go!
calantir: Lee Sedol lost this game, but another one is being played tonight
hajoucha: will there be a rely from match #2 again? 
hajoucha: youtube lags a lot. 
hajoucha: but that lag may not be due to so many people watching ... so I guess the rely would not help ...
Weidel: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 H13 D2 D10 B3 C3 C2 B4 D3 B2 C4 A4 E9 F11 B10 B11 Q18 R18 T14 S16 A11 A12 A10 B12 G11 F10 F9 P17 N17 O7 Q7 C10 A8 A3 G12 F12 
MasterMind2349: The divine move?
MasterMind2349: Yes but it's actually tru
whzecomjm: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 H13 D2 D10 B3 C3 C2 B4 D3 B2 C4 A4 E9 F11 B10 B11 Q18 R18 T14 S16 A11 A12 A10 B12 G11 F10 F9 P17 N17 O7 Q7 C10 A8 A3 G12 F12 
drmfslxd0: 4：1 Mr Lee win finally
ClarkLee: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 A6 L1 P7 P8 C11 H12 H13 D2 D10 B3 C3 C2 B4 D3 B2 C4 A4 E9 F11 B10 B11 Q18 R18 T14 S16 A11 A12 A10 B12 G11 F10 F9 P17 N17 O7 Q7 C10 A8 A3 G12 F12 
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MasterMind2349: I read the manga hey wanna play a game
MasterMind2349: ok^_^
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Tarot: l1 better than the take at a6?. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 L1 K3 J2 J3 H3 H4 G1 
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Tarot: this could've been interesting:  *. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 L1 J3 K3 K4 J4 J2 K1 H4 J5 K5 J6 K6 H5 G5 G6 
Tarot: ah, nevermind, delete last variation.
Tarot: >^oo^<
Tarot: This was a fascinating game to observe.
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Tarot: perhaps something like this, certainly I am making "wrong" moves in these chains, however:. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T5 C8 L1 J3 K3 K4 J4 J2 K1 H4 J5 K5 J6 K6 H6 G6 H7 G7 K7 
Tarot: For some strange reason, this game seemed easy to understand for the high sdk. Usually, pro games have several areas that are mystifying. I think perhaps game 2 will be of the mystifying type.
Tarot: I predicted AlphaGo 4-1 over Sedol. Now, due to AlphaGo learning from Sedol's play, there is little hope for the human. 
Tarot: AlphaGo: 5-0
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Andrei44: t4 kills?
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theemathas: lol....
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gamesorry: t4 kill without t5. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 P2 Q2 P3 Q16 R2 S2 Q1 S1 S6 S5 R6 T4 T5 S3 
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Pempu: Now black would need to defend against A. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 F3 G13 C6 D6 D7 F4 G4 G3 F2 C5 E6 D5 E4 C7 D8 M2 L2 S18 K18 K19 N14 N12 O16 R10 Q10 R9 Q8 Q9 P9 S12 S8 R14 S11 S14 Q14 R15 R12 C17 B6 B7 B8 B5 S13 N2 Q5 K2 L3 Q6 P5 R4 P6 Q4 P4 R3 Q2 R2 
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gamesorry: d1. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K10 K8 H10 H11 G10 G14 J11 K12 J10 N6 M5 N5 M4 N4 M3 N3 J7 R5 D17 C17 E16 D18 H13 H12 G13 
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geotheory: 79: H13 I think would've been my strategy
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vpfli: if b captures l8, w gets the four center stones
thouis: because this, I think. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 L8 M8 M9 K8 L10 K9 K10 
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Zal: Because then he captures the group
Zal: Who cares about that one stone 
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gamesorry: Black can live. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 J16 M14 P12 Q11 M12 L12 L15 M15 M13 L13 L14 O15 P15 K17 J17 K16 J15 K15 K14 J14 K13 M11 N11 H14 J12 N18 G16 L11 N10 L9 J18 P18 N8 M7 O17 O18 L18 M17 N7 M6 Q18 N14 N12 O16 P17 K18 K19 M19 
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HelioSeven: ever read or watched hikaru no go?
HelioSeven: hm, maybe... not what I watched last night, though
HelioSeven: both players very sloppy, honestly
HelioSeven: sure
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pagia: P11 black get three line operation.......
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Pempu: Like this test. From move 0: R16 D16 Q3 D4 F17 C14 R8 P16 M16 R17 S17 Q17 S15 P14 Q13 P13 Q12 K16 K17 L17 L16 
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