(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
GN[2nd Istanbul Handicap Go Title Match Game 2]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/128324]
PB[Mehmet Barış Albayrak]
PW[Özgür Değirmenci]
BR[2d]
WR[4d]
OT[Error: time control missing]
RE[?]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]

;AB[pd]C[2nd Istanbul Handicap Go Championship Title Match 2nd game between Özgür Değirmenci 4 dan and Mehmet Barış Albayrak. Komi: 0.5 Time: 2 hrs + 5x1min byoyomi. -- 2. İstanbul Avanslı Go Şampiyonluğu Unvan Karşılaşması 2. maç, Özgür Değirmenci 4 dan'a Mehmet Barış Albayrak meydan okuyor. Komi: 0.5 Süre: 2 Saat + 5x 1 dakika byoyomi

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Kungfu Panda: It is a 2 stone handicap game
Shweetz: trick moves :D
Shweetz: trikc is banned ?
Kungfu Panda: But here with 2, you can see white is just playing normal
]
;AB[dp]
;AW[cn]
;B[cl]
;W[cd]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]C[

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Kungfu Panda: Thank you for relay here IstanbulGO 
]
;B[fc]
;W[dc]C[

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IstanbulGO: Thank you for watching ^.^
]
;B[fd]
;W[cf]
;B[jc]
;W[en]C[

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Jwill1997: So what's going in this match?
Kungfu Panda: With a 2 stone handicap game, white can play just normal.
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;B[fp]
;W[dk]C[

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Jwill1997: Thank you
Shweetz: basically, yes
Kungfu Panda: With 5-6 stones and more, you have to do tricky overplays
]
;B[co]
;W[bn]
;B[dl]C[

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Shweetz: they didn't even play in the last corner
]
;W[el]
;B[ck]
;W[dj]
;B[cj]
;W[di]C[

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Shweetz: 2-3 stones handicap is just weird
Shweetz: there are 2 open corners
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;B[ch]C[

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Kungfu Panda: White is thinking about a way to get out in sente, to take the last corner
]
;W[dm]
;B[dh]
;W[eh]
;B[eg]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black is a little more agressive compared to the last game.
]
;W[dg]
;B[bg]
;W[ef]
;B[fg]
;W[fh]C[

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IstanbulGO: now almost half an hour into the game. Almost 15 minutes off each player's clock.
]
;B[bf]
;W[be]
;B[de]
;W[ce]
;B[bm]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black has a bad habit of playing with stuff around him, especially the heater :p
]
;W[gg]C[

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IstanbulGO: This move took about 7 minutes off Whites clock
]
;B[gn]
;W[hq]C[

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Kungfu Panda: G6 of black is a little weird. it doesn't really attack or take points... 
]
;B[gr]C[

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Kungfu Panda: Black again plays a weird move... Just this exchange is good for White already
IstanbulGO: I agree, especially since it desperately asks for a stone around Q4
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;W[go]C[

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IstanbulGO: now it seems G6 will be a burden more than help.
]
;B[fo]
;W[fn]
;B[ho]C[

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Kungfu Panda: daring moves by black
]
;W[gp]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black is one of the first players to reach shodan from İstanbul. He was away for a while in Germany for academic purposes.
Motylek: Black seems to be too much focusing on territory. Is he territorial player?
IstanbulGO: White is a double major student and has been one of the top three Turkish players for the last 5 years. Representing Turkey in the KPMC multiple times.
RoboTeddy: what are the time controls?
IstanbulGO: I can't really say. His style can and does change.
IstanbulGO: Black 1:14:--, White 1:32:-- seconds are not shown as both have more than 10 mins on the clock.
RoboTeddy: any overtime?
RoboTeddy: (or fischer increment, etc)
IstanbulGO: 5x1 minutes byoyomi
Kungfu Panda: I would try J4 here...
]
;B[iq]
;W[hp]
;B[ip]
;W[hn]
;B[io]C[

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Motylek: K17, G6, G2 those all are looking strange to me and it seems like black is wishing for fight with many small territories.
IstanbulGO: That is more like him yes. A complicated game full of fighting. Not good for handicap games but...
]
(;W[hr]
;B[gm]
;W[ir]
;B[jr]
)(;W[gm]C[

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RobertT: k17 was fine but g6 was strange and the left side had a couple bad exchanges
IstanbulGO: Btw the clocks started off with 2 hrs each. We are 1hr 15 mins into the game right now.
Kungfu Panda: h2 to link up
]
(;B[hr]C[

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Kungfu Panda: This seems a good timing to give that last corner a owner
RobertT: maybe play in bottom right and streat h2 and b4 as miai
RobertT: treat*
IstanbulGO: but wouldn't that give black an open skirt in both areas?
RobertT: well m3 isn't even a moyo let alone territory so it isn't really an open skirt so it just leaves it open on 1 side
RobertT: its basically just reading if the corner is fine. if it is then playing in the empty corner should be bigger
]
;W[qo]
;B[jm]C[

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RobertT: what in the world is k7....
RoboTeddy: what's the idea behind K7? reduce white's center while threaten to make a moyo on bottom..?
Fellow: why r5
IstanbulGO: I have no idea -.-
RobertT: k7 is nonsense
]
(;W[pq]C[

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Kungfu Panda: Black played a floating move before, again not really taking points or putting pressure on white
]
;B[nq]C[

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RobertT: black thinks center > side > corner
Fellow: white will approach?
]
;W[qf]C[

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Fellow: ok
BerrySoldier: pincer now?
]
;B[pf]
;W[pc]C[

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RoboTeddy: is Q17 joseki?
IstanbulGO: I think black was afraid of White getting influence in the center probably played K7 out of that fear.
Fellow: probe?
Kungfu Panda: Or maybe just annoying move trying to complicate things :)
RobertT: it is joseki in the sense that it is a known move.... its just almost always bad
RoboTeddy: I guess maybe also P4 faces right side moreso, and right side is pretty open
RobertT: its a special case move
Fellow: I need to try q17
RoboTeddy: fellow: sounds like probably best avoided for now!
Fellow: ill look at it before
RoboTeddy: unless as an invasion later, rather than in response to opponent playing in corner
]
(;B[oc]
;W[qc]C[

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Fellow: and learn follow ups
Kungfu Panda: What are moves black could consider here?
RobertT: d1. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 
]
;B[od]
(;W[qd]
;B[qg]
;W[qe]
;B[oo]C[

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Kungfu Panda: Q14 stone can be treated lightly 
]
(;W[pg]C[

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RoboTeddy: cut?. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 R16 R13 R15 P5 Q13 
]
)(;W[pn]C[

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Kungfu Panda: My guess is that white is hoping for a defensive response from black at P6
IstanbulGO: So if my estimate is not too far off, white has a ~10 point lead in territory
]
;B[ql]
;W[on]
;B[no]LB[ga:16]LB[ha:13]LB[ia:12]LB[ja:9]LB[ka:8]LB[la:5]LB[ma:4]LB[na:1]LB[gb:15]LB[hb:14]LB[ib:11]LB[jb:10]LB[kb:7]LB[lb:6]LB[mb:3]LB[nb:2]LB[ag:44]LB[ah:35]LB[bh:36]LB[ai:37]LB[aj:38]LB[bj:39]LB[ak:41]LB[bk:40]LB[al:42]LB[bl:43]LB[jp:33]LB[kp:31]LB[lp:29]LB[mp:27]LB[dq:51]LB[eq:52]LB[jq:34]LB[kq:32]LB[lq:30]LB[mq:28]LB[dr:49]LB[er:47]LB[fr:45]LB[ir:17]LB[jr:19]LB[kr:21]LB[lr:23]LB[mr:25]LB[ds:50]LB[es:48]LB[fs:46]LB[is:18]LB[js:20]LB[ks:22]LB[ls:24]LB[ms:26]C[

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RoboTeddy: for black?. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 R16 R13 R15 P5 Q6 R8 P6 O5 
RobertT: close
RoboTeddy: maybe wrong to count that bit at the right of the top side
IstanbulGO: That is about what I was counting. Since the lower left corner is open and the upper center can be reduced if not invaded.
RobertT: not as much on top and the shape of the territories is a little different then what you marked
]
;W[pg]C[

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RobertT: white still has h18 to remove a lot from the top
RoboTeddy: ah wow good point
RoboTeddy: thank you
IstanbulGO: Just to give you a heads up, there will be a break in 20 mins. The game will continue after that.
RobertT: I don't get a break in the middle of the game in my tournaments :(
IstanbulGO: Right now: Black 0:37:-- and counting, White 1:10:-- seems Black will have time trouble again.
]
;B[qh]C[

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IstanbulGO: This is a special match, one of its kind in Turkey right now ^.^
]
;W[pe]
;B[of]
;W[oe]C[

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IstanbulGO: It's about 17:00 right now, time for tea or supper depending on the players' needs.
RoboTeddy: is it me, or do these last couple of moves look very painful for black?
]
;B[og]C[

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emauton: IstanbulGO: Thanks for relaying, it's fun to follow along.
]
;W[md]C[

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IstanbulGO: Thank you for your interest. And thanks for the comments.
]
;B[qp]
;W[pp]
;B[po]
;W[ro]C[

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RoboTeddy: looks like white is threatening to swallow those three stones in the top right...
IstanbulGO: Black will be sealing this move.
IstanbulGO: Game will resume at 17:30 local time, 14:30 UTC/GMT, 10:30 EST that is in 30 minutes
IstanbulGO: Game will commence in 5 minutes. Players are returning.
]
;B[rp]C[

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RobertT: r7 should be fine
]
;W[qm]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black 0:23:--, White 1:05:--
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;B[qr]
;W[qq]
;B[rq]
;W[rr]C[

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IstanbulGO: I think Black is trying to read this out as he is focused on the corner.
]
;B[sr]
;W[rs]
;B[qs]
;W[sp]
;B[ss]C[

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IstanbulGO: Everything is proceeding as you have foreseen RobertT ^.^
]
(;W[rr]
;B[rs]
(;W[so]
;B[pr]
;W[sq]
;B[oq]
;W[rr]C[

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RobertT: then tenuki. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 R16 R13 R15 P5 Q6 R8 P6 O5 Q13 R12 Q15 P14 P15 P13 N16 R4 Q4 Q5 S5 S4 R7 R2 R3 S3 S2 T2 S1 R1 T4 T1 S2 S1 T5 Q2 T3 P3 S2 
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)(;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[so]
;B[ps]
;W[sq]C[

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RobertT: or maybe this then tenuki is better. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 R16 R13 R15 P5 Q6 R8 P6 O5 Q13 R12 Q15 P14 P15 P13 N16 R4 Q4 Q5 S5 S4 R7 R2 R3 S3 S2 T2 S1 R1 T4 T1 S2 S1 Q2 P2 T5 Q1 T3 
]
))(;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[rr]C[

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IstanbulGO: Oops deviation.
]
;B[rs]
;W[so]
;B[ps]
;W[sq]C[

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RobertT: same thing just slight change in the order
]
;B[pl]C[

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IstanbulGO: Was that an actual quote do you think? Or was Michael Redmond not aware of the possible link?
]
;W[nn]
;B[mo]
;W[nl]C[

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RobertT: most likely unaware
IstanbulGO: It was both entertaining and shocking for Star Wars fans here :D
IstanbulGO: O9 both ladder breaker and White's ticket out.
]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]
;B[ok]
;W[rr]
;B[rq]
;W[ml]
;B[mb]C[

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IstanbulGO: Strange that there are no Turkish kibitzers. I'm guessing most of the guest accounts watching right now are local go players.
IstanbulGO: Black 38 seconds left until byoyomi.
]
;W[ob]
;B[lm]
;W[kl]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black is now in byoyomi. (5 x 1 min)
]
;B[jl]
;W[ni]C[

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IstanbulGO: 4 periods left.
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;B[oi]
;W[nh]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]
;B[mf]
;W[km]
;B[kn]
;W[ln]
;B[ko]C[

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IstanbulGO: Time, Black: 4x1min byoyomi, White: 42mins
]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[bo]
;B[lh]
;W[mg]
;B[ne]
;W[nd]
;B[lg]
;W[mi]
;B[rm]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black 3x1 min byoyomi, White: 35 mins
emauton: That white group is looking somewhat draconic.
]
;W[pi]
;B[qi]
;W[mn]C[

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IstanbulGO: N8 group? It lives! (why did that sound like a horror movie title in my head now?) ^.^
emauton: Hehe
]
;B[kk]
;W[ll]
;B[lo]
;W[kj]C[

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UlaşÖren: q7 would be nice i guess
]
;B[jj]C[

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IstanbulGO: Beyaz? Siyah? White? Black?
]
;W[ki]
;B[pm]
;W[qn]C[

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IstanbulGO: Speaking of which :)
UlaşÖren: now i feel like w is safe
UlaşÖren: because of the ko 2 eyes is easy
IstanbulGO: if only there was a working tesuji like J12. Ko is only half an eye.
]
;B[ji]C[

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UlaşÖren: yeah but white eont lose because every attempt at escape is a threat
IstanbulGO: So now would be the time to initiate it you say?
]
;W[lk]
;B[jk]C[

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UlaşÖren: its already alive:D
IstanbulGO: White can get 2 eyes with M11 but I'm guessing he wants sente if he can get it.
]
;W[lf]
;B[jg]C[

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UlaşÖren: now w needs to respond 
UlaşÖren: ko would be bad i assume
]
;W[pj]
;B[qj]C[

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UlaşÖren: still testing
IstanbulGO: Black: 2x1 min byoyomi, White: 28 mins
]
;W[nf]
;B[ng]
;W[mh]
;B[pg]
;W[me]
;B[nf]
;W[li]
(;B[kf]
;W[lb]
;B[lc]
;W[mc]
;B[ff]C[

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UlaşÖren: this one is dangerous
IstanbulGO: Black's middle names seems to be danger and not peace :p
IstanbulGO: *name
]
;W[fe]
;B[gf]
;W[ge]C[

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UlaşÖren: could be losing move
]
;B[hf]C[

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UlaşÖren: now black loses top points
]
;W[ee]
;B[dd]
;W[fb]C[

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UlaşÖren: it was close before this sequence
]
(;B[gb]C[

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Shweetz: D13*
]
;W[eb]
;B[hc]C[

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UlaşÖren: now w+
]
;W[hd]
;B[fj]C[

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UlaşÖren: w just squeeze after cut
UlaşÖren: doesnt work
UlaşÖren: and w connecting is sente for the left group
UlaşÖren: so both way is not good for black
IstanbulGO: Black: 2x1min b.y. - White 20 mins
UlaşÖren: black try to make points in the middle but there are none to make
IstanbulGO: More like trying to erase White's points?
]
;W[fk]
;B[gj]C[

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IstanbulGO: Black is down to his last byoyomi period. White still has more than 15mins.
UlaşÖren: l18 looks like sente
IstanbulGO: White is focused on the top part of the board, could be evaluating that.
UlaşÖren: and b will get it if w doesnt move there now
UlaşÖren: big difference
IstanbulGO: White is counting down from 12 mins.
]
;W[kc]
;B[id]
;W[ei]
;B[cr]
;W[br]C[

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UlaşÖren: özgür yosede tam bir canavar
IstanbulGO: Ona çalışıp duruyor ne zamandır.
]
;B[le]
;W[ld]
;B[bq]
;W[bp]
;B[bs]
;W[ar]
;B[gh]C[

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IstanbulGO: White is counting down from 10 mins
]
;W[oj]
;B[pk]C[

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UlaşÖren: şimdi ortaya bişeyler lazım
UlaşÖren: önce d14ü kapatsa
]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cs]
;B[he]
;W[gd]C[

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UlaşÖren: sonra j15 iyi gibi
]
;B[gc]
;W[df]
;B[bc]C[

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IstanbulGO: :S
emauton: Was that a "timesuji", or is there something there for black?
]
(;W[bb]
(;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[ad]
;W[bd]
)(;B[cb]
;W[cc]
;B[ba]C[

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IstanbulGO: And it would be a complicated semeai.
]
))(;W[cc]
;B[cb]C[

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IstanbulGO: Complicated.
IstanbulGO: White is down to 2 mins
UlaşÖren: yoruldular heralde
UlaşÖren: teşekkürler hocam ben kaçıyorum
UlaşÖren: selam söyleyin herkese
]
(;W[af]
;B[ci]C[

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UlaşÖren: w is fien but b gets semedori
UlaşÖren: i think w should have responded with c18
]
;W[ac]
;B[ad]
;W[ae]
;B[ab]
;W[ba]
;B[ca]C[

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IstanbulGO: White is aiming to please the audience by creating exciting situations.
emauton: Heh.
emauton: How do you feel things stand on the board now?
]
;W[bb]
;B[aa]C[

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IstanbulGO: White is now in byoyomi
]
;W[bd]
;B[fa]C[

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UlaşÖren: big ko
UlaşÖren: many steps
]
;W[ea]
;B[ga]
;W[bb]
;B[ba]
;W[ac]
;B[fi]
;W[ek]
;B[ad]C[

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UlaşÖren: özgür batırdı
UlaşÖren: c18 iyiydi
IstanbulGO: C18 <3
UlaşÖren: siyah kapatır oyun biter
IstanbulGO: White is down to 3 periods of byoyomi.
]
;W[ib]C[

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UlaşÖren: yani içerde bi tek d18 var
UlaşÖren: bu da var
UlaşÖren: 2 tehditbulursa siyah gg
IstanbulGO: ^.^
]
;B[jb]
;W[ac]LB[ic:A]LB[ie:B]LB[hg:C]C[

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UlaşÖren: c7 bir
UlaşÖren: ikinci yok:D
]
;B[cm]
;W[dn]C[

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UlaşÖren: ööö ama olmaz kiböyle
]
;B[ad]
;W[ie]C[

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UlaşÖren: j17 lazımdı
]
;B[ic]
;W[ac]C[

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UlaşÖren: siyahın tenukilemesi lazım ama tahta doldu
]
;B[kd]
;W[bb]
;B[kb]C[

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IstanbulGO: White is down to 2 periods.
]
;W[ag]
;B[ah]C[

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IstanbulGO: Both players are in their last period.
]
;W[lc]C[

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UlaşÖren: orta büyük oldu baya
UlaşÖren: siyah arayı kapadı gibi koyla
IstanbulGO: Puan yok diyordun bir de.
]
;B[bc]
;W[hg]C[

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UlaşÖren: yoktu 
]
;B[if]
;W[bb]C[

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UlaşÖren: f11le d2yi değiştiler
]
;B[la]C[

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UlaşÖren: l16yı da beleş aldı kodan
]
;W[nc]C[

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UlaşÖren: büyük oldu
]
;B[bc]C[

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IstanbulGO: Everybody's on the edge of their seats here.
]
;W[eo]C[

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emauton: :o)
]
;B[ad]C[

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IstanbulGO: uh-oh
]
;W[bh]
;B[bi]
;W[ac]
;B[gq]
;W[gn]C[

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UlaşÖren: özgür değişir gibi gelmişti bana
UlaşÖren: niye kapadı ki?
]
;B[eq]
;W[bb]C[

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IstanbulGO: Eğlence?
IstanbulGO: Bilemiyorum artık
]
;B[cg]
;W[oi]
;B[rf]
;W[re]
;B[sg]C[

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UlaşÖren: beyazın h11den sürmesi lazım silmek için ama ko tehdidi kalmıyo siyah direnirse
]
;W[gk]C[

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UlaşÖren: böyle siyah aldı oyunu gibi
]
;B[hk]
;W[hl]
;B[hj]
;W[bc]
;B[kh]C[Black wins, White resigns. -- Beyaz pes etti, Siyah kazandı. 

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IstanbulGO: Black wins, White concedes.
UlaşÖren: evet fark olmuş sayınca
emauton: Nice. Thanks again for the relay, IstanbulGO.
UlaşÖren: gg
IstanbulGO: Thanks for your time and interest everyone.
IstanbulGO: They are now in post-mortem analysis.
IstanbulGO: See you next game.
IstanbulGO: The times will be annouced from our twitter and facebook pages.
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;B[bi]
;W[af]
;B[ad]
;W[ae]
))(;W[cb]C[

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IstanbulGO: White said this would not be enough and he was feeling behind
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;B[ae]
(;W[bb]
;B[ad]C[

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UlaşÖren: resist
UlaşÖren: niye bağlanmasına izin veriyo?
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UlaşÖren: bence dirense yakındı 
UlaşÖren: bence d2 kötüydü
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;B[af]
;W[cc]
;B[bd]
;W[bb]
;B[ac]
;W[ab]
;B[ad]C[

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UlaşÖren: b16yı da kapatabiliyo
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;W[cg]
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;W[he]
;B[ie]
;W[hd]
;B[hc]
;W[id]
;B[jd]
;W[ic]
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Shweetz: black can connect 13 or this ?. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 R16 R13 R15 P5 Q6 R8 P6 O5 Q13 R12 Q15 P14 P15 P13 N16 R4 Q4 Q5 S5 S4 R7 R2 R3 S3 S2 T2 S1 R1 T4 T1 Q2 P2 S2 S1 T5 Q1 T3 Q8 O6 N5 O8 O9 N9 P9 S2 S3 N8 N18 P18 M7 L8 K8 O11 P11 O12 O10 N10 N14 L7 L6 M6 L5 C3 D3 C4 D5 B5 M12 N13 O15 O16 M13 N11 S7 P12 Q12 Q11 R11 N6 L9 M8 M5 L10 K10 L11 Q7 R6 K11 M9 K9 M14 K13 Q10 R10 O14 O13 N12 Q13 N15 O14 M11 L14 M18 M17 N17 F14 F15 G14 G15 H14 E15 D16 F18 D14 C13 G16 H15 J15 H16 H17 J16 K16 J17 J18 
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;W[gd]
;B[gc]
;W[hd]
;B[id]
;W[hc]C[

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Shweetz: ah ye
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(;W[mc]
)(;W[nb]
;B[mc]
;W[ld]
;B[lc]
;W[kg]
;B[kd]
;W[le]
;B[kf]
;W[kh]
;B[lg]
;W[lh]
;B[ke]
)(;W[lb]
;B[nb]
;W[lc]
;B[pb]
;W[oa]
))(;B[lc]
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RobertT: btw this was the move. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 P17 R17 P16 S15 
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;W[rg]
;B[qh]
;W[rh]
;B[qi]C[

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IstanbulGO: painful for white
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;W[oc]
;B[qg]
;W[qb]
;B[qd]
;W[lc]
;B[rb]C[

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RobertT: normal result. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 Q3 O3 R14 Q14 Q17 R17 P17 R13 R18 R16 M17 S18 
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RobertT: I think this was better in this situation. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 H2 R5 K7 P4 
RoboTeddy: is P4 better because it makes potential for black on bottom smaller?
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RoboTeddy: maybe here?. From move 0: Q16 D4 C6 C8 C16 E16 E17 F17 D17 F16 C14 K17 E6 F4 D9 C5 B6 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 D12 E12 E13 D13 B13 E14 F13 F12 B14 B15 D15 C15 B7 G13 G6 H3 G2 G5 F5 F6 H5 G4 J3 H4 J4 H6 J5 G7 P4 
RoboTeddy: RobertT: what moves might you consider next as black?
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