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CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
GN[IZIS2OGS transcript of game 575646]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/1310540]
PB[Karadaban 6d]
PW[Kravets 7d]
OT[Error: time control missing]
RE[W+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]

;B[dp]
;W[pd]
;B[cd]
;W[pp]
;B[nc]
;W[pf]
;B[oe]
;W[pe]
;B[pb]
;W[pi]
;B[fd]
;W[lb]
;B[mc]
;W[kd]
;B[qc]
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eddie_ji: 🤣
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;B[qq]C[

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Tschej: openings from higher ranked persons always Look so fancy 
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;W[qp]
;B[pq]
;W[op]C[

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gor: Are they playing that fast?
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;B[nr]
;W[cn]C[

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eddie_ji: this is a review, right?
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;B[cl]
;W[en]
;B[fp]
;W[dk]
;B[dl]
;W[el]C[

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Tschej: i think not. its just stated as one
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;B[ck]C[

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Animiral: Extend at triangle is oldschool, connection at A is much safer. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 
Animiral: I thought only I knew LOL
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;W[dj]C[

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Animiral: Late commentary on the opening: shame about the A-B trick, everyone will learn it now ^^ and early C seems to be popular in this tournament, or maybe it's just Andrii.. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 
redreoicy: i thought everyone already knew A-B :P
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;B[cj]
;W[di]
;B[ch]C[

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dmedak: Semifinals of European Championships in Toulouse just started.
dmedak: It is a direct transmission from AI IZIS board to OGS
dmedak: The review of the games on twitch soon
sektorate: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
dmedak: a camera view is already available 
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;W[dm]
;B[mq]
;W[mp]
;B[lp]
;W[nq]
;B[lr]
;W[lo]
;B[kp]
;W[nj]
;B[qk]
;W[qm]C[

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shadowunseen101: hi guys watching from philippines.
Tschej: i wonder what Black is thinking now, since R7 is a move you expect in beforehand anyway 
eddie_ji: Black may not want to survive R9, but just make some noises around to squeeze White, I think
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;B[jn]C[

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Tschej: i see
gor: Black noticed whites center potential
mixorr: whats the time limit?
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;W[dd]
;B[cc]C[

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paulolops: White noticed blacks corner 
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;W[me]
;B[fm]
;W[fn]
;B[em]
;W[gm]
;B[fl]
;W[ek]
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dan225: I think this kosumi is almost always worse than the normal turn
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;W[dh]
;B[cg]C[

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dan225: before white fixed the cut, it could be sometimes fine to just jump in the corner and solve only the top group I think
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;W[go]C[

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mondrian: looks tough for w to look after his groups and also build some area
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;B[gp]
;W[im]C[

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mondrian: G11
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;B[gi]
;W[gg]
;B[ik]
;W[jm]
;B[fh]
;W[dg]
;B[fg]
;W[df]
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GoGur: I feel like the white Dragon on the D and E lines is in a ton of trouble. Can a better player than me tell me whether that hunch is correct, or if there's an easy out?
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;W[ci]
;B[bi]C[

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GoGur: Thanks so much, redreoicy! Not as bad as I thought then, ability to split that top and bottom black group
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;W[bf]C[

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redreoicy: easy way out. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 
Animiral: that split is just brutal, before this w was forced to kill b center. But now it's even and w is out of trouble.
redreoicy: b taking an awful lot of time here
redreoicy: might be blunder tine
redreoicy: time*
redreoicy: Is Karadaban known for being good at deep thinks?
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(;B[cf]
;W[ce]
;B[be]
;W[bh]
;B[de]
;W[bg]
;B[ce]
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redreoicy: easy way out one var. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 C14 C15 B15 B12 D15 B13 C15 B10 
GoGur: Loving the insight from chat, thanks for showing variations.
dan225: exactly, white solved 2 weak groups by capturing black, i am surprised its almost even now
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;W[cf]
(;B[bh]
;W[bm]
;B[cm]
;W[dn]
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redreoicy: b dying first . From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 D17 C14 B12 B7 C7 D6 B8 B6 
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au-delà: this one?. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 D17 C14 B6 
redreoicy: might be the best way for b
redreoicy: w will be cleanly alive after capturing 2 stones, but b not unhappy 
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))(;B[bn]
(;W[bh]
;B[bg]
;W[cf]
;B[ah]
;W[dc]C[

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redreoicy: b attached first now w has this extra choice . From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B12 B13 C14 A12 D17 
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)(;W[bo]
;B[bm]
(;W[cf]C[

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Paige: looking alive now?
Animiral: he should think about e18, let w live. even that is not a clean connect
redreoicy: always alive only question was how
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;B[bh]C[

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redreoicy: b connects?????
Animiral: digging a deeper hole
redreoicy: huge blunder came
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;W[dc]C[

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Paige: ALL IN
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;B[db]C[

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Paige: xD
redreoicy: I thought w should cut b12 to force this and b just connects without the extra stone sacrifice 
Animiral: you know if w dies here we have to take it all back XD
Paige: i don't see anyway for it to live at this point 
Paige: oops I mean
Paige: I don't se anyway for it to die at this point
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;W[eb]
(;B[ec]
;W[ed]C[

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redreoicy: did b miss atari. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 E17 E16 
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)(;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[bd]
(;W[hj]
;B[fk]
;W[ee]
;B[co]
;W[hk]
;B[hn]
;W[gn]
;B[hm]
;W[hl]
;B[gl]
;W[hi]
;B[gh]
;W[ho]
;B[in]
;W[eq]
;B[ep]
;W[kn]
;B[ip]
;W[hh]
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Grav1ton: GG
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;B[mo]
;W[np]
;B[ln]
;W[or]
;B[km]
;W[kl]
;B[lm]
;W[ll]
;B[qh]
;W[rd]
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paulolops: Black ahead now ?!
paulolops: I leave with both Denis and thomas 10 points behind and i come back to see even games 
paulolops: Maybe i should not watch if I want them to win
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;W[qi]C[

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au-delà: ^^
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;B[rc]C[

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paulolops: Can white find some KO living on bottom left corner ?
paulolops: But black would not connect C4 now so it's hard
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;W[rh]
;B[rg]
;W[ri]
;B[oq]
;W[ns]
;B[mr]
;W[rq]
;B[pr]
;W[ps]
;B[os]
;W[mm]
;B[ko]
;W[or]
;B[ne]
;W[nf]
;B[os]
;W[gj]
;B[fj]
;W[or]
;B[mf]
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redreoicy: if b doesn't connect c4 w gets more liberties for better squeeze right
redreoicy: so i think b would connect c4 if at all possible 
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(;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[cq]
;B[dq]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
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redreoicy: but that does seem like ko hum
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)(;W[oc]
;B[ob]
;W[mb]
;B[nb]
;W[nd]
(;B[qs]C[

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wade: i would have played r1 at s2 
au-delà: Agree
redreoicy: agree
Golavier: is that weird if wth my levle i agree to ?
Golavier: (i feel that there is something i miss or doesn't understand)
Golavier: hmmm
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;W[gf]
;B[fe]C[

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Sadiker: t15?
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;W[if]
;B[re]
;W[no]
;B[qg]C[

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redreoicy: i think the c4 probe could be important 
redreoicy: and b should consider letting it be ko
redreoicy: if he has unlimited threats
paulolops: R13 black is already connected
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mondrian: B is ahead, right?
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;B[mn]
;W[nn]
;B[lc]
;W[kc]
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redreoicy: the extra liberties were annoying 
redreoicy: it's a tough call
redreoicy: b does have many ko threats
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(;B[do]
;W[cq]C[

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paulolops: Et
wade: d5 was wrong i feel... i think b should have played at c3
paulolops: D5 seems wrong yeah
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;B[dq]
;W[dr]
(;B[br]
;W[cr]
;B[ao]
(;W[bp]C[

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paulolops: Eh ?
redreoicy: b4???
torbg: :(
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;B[ar]
;W[qd]
;B[sd]
;W[na]
;B[rb]
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paulolops: S3 still hanging out there
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;B[fc]
;W[fb]C[

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Hrewsahgs: G2 kills?
paulolops: Seems so
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paulolops: O7 ?!
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Hrewsahgs: Timesuji, most likely
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;B[gr]C[

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paulolops: That was really not sente
paulolops: White live and wins
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paulolops: White can also die and win tho
redreoicy: time pressure making for some interesting choices 
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paulolops: S4 seems like the last big yose
Lucirex1: C19 also sente for w 
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;W[es]
;B[fr]
;W[er]
;B[ap]
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Paladyn: Exciting way to end a game
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(;B[hp]C[

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Lucirex1: Gg
gojigs: wow
redreoicy: what 
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;W[ir]C[

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paulolops: Ouch
gojigs: magic
Lucirex1: Nvm
Lucirex1: Still dead
Paladyn: H4 does seem to be slack
Paladyn: Black saw the wrong empty triangle
gojigs: but even then you can extend once more
gojigs: no?
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paulolops: It's fully alive
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;W[kr]C[

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Lucirex1: Oh damn
Zobbe: ._.
Lucirex1: Nice move
redreoicy: indeed
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;B[gs]C[

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paulolops: Smart
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;W[jr]C[

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GoDave89: Oh, ouch
redreoicy: tsumego important 
redreoicy: both players failed badly
redreoicy: but b failed worse XD
paulolops: White was supposed to be dead then got ko then died then lived
paulolops: Interesting corner
yahel.or.3: Game looks over and Andri won This is how it looks
AshesOfDreams: Impressive how b didn't manage to find easy way to kill
yahel.or.3: But that's the only way it looks, he must win because he is the only professional left for Europe to send to the tournament against beautiful Chinese and Koran professionals
Hrewsahgs: To be fair to black, disgusting empty triangle tends to be blind spots
EGF: w+res
yahel.or.3: אט
yahel.or.3: TY
Animiral: gg
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;B[hs]
;W[ks]
;B[is]
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torbg: go can be fun
torbg: hope they go through this in detail
torbg: yes, but this is not how Andrii would like to win
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redreoicy: simple. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 H10 F9 E15 C5 H9 H6 G6 H7 H8 G8 H11 G12 H5 J6 E3 E4 L6 J4 H12 H16 J17 N5 O4 M6 P2 L7 L8 M7 M8 R12 S16 Q12 R11 S17 S12 S13 S11 P3 O1 N2 S3 Q2 Q1 P1 N7 L5 P2 O15 O14 P1 G10 F10 P2 N14 N16 P1 P17 P18 N18 O18 O16 R1 G14 F15 J14 S15 O5 R13 P12 N6 O6 M17 L17 S2 C4 D5 C3 D3 D2 B2 C2 A5 B4 A2 R16 T16 O19 S18 D19 B18 F3 F17 F18 O7 N8 G2 G3 H3 E1 F2 E2 A4 H2 J3 
Hrewsahgs: Oof. Black didn't see the empty triangle, huh
Palko: H4 should have been at J3
redreoicy: then b can hane
redreoicy: w is dead
redreoicy: (in variation)
redreoicy: not in game
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Hrewsahgs: And the hane's very sente
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redreoicy: ko. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 H10 F9 E15 C5 H9 H6 G6 H7 H8 G8 H11 G12 H5 J6 E3 E4 L6 J4 H12 H16 J17 N5 O4 M6 P2 L7 L8 M7 M8 R12 S16 Q12 R11 S17 S12 S13 S11 P3 O1 N2 S3 Q2 Q1 P1 N7 L5 P2 O15 O14 P1 G10 F10 P2 N14 N16 P1 P17 P18 N18 O18 O16 R1 G14 F15 J14 S15 O5 R13 P12 N6 O6 M17 L17 S2 C4 D5 C3 D3 D2 B2 C2 A5 A2 
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))(;B[er]
;W[br]C[

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paulolops: Feels like a free ko for white will happen
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redreoicy: i do think b chose wrong though 
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;W[or]
;B[qr]
;W[rp]
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redreoicy: like this s2 is much worse. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 H10 F9 E15 C5 H9 H6 G6 H7 H8 G8 H11 G12 H5 J6 E3 E4 L6 J4 H12 H16 J17 N5 O4 M6 P2 L7 L8 M7 M8 R12 S16 Q12 R11 S17 S12 S13 S11 P3 O1 N2 S3 Q2 Q1 P1 N7 L5 P2 O15 O14 P1 G10 F10 P2 N14 N16 P1 P17 P18 N18 O18 O16 S2 P2 R2 S4 T2 
redreoicy: so maybe the logic is that if b is ending ko fight, b would answer as in above variation 
redreoicy: so then s2 is worse
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redreoicy: since e15 was not sente, w had to play here. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 C5 
redreoicy: then e15 will be sente next
redreoicy: or b must push with bad shape
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;W[ee]
;B[ce]
;W[ef]
;B[ed]
;W[fe]
;B[gd]
;W[ge]
;B[fb]
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redreoicy: b sad. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 C5 D15 E15 C15 E14 E16 F15 G16 G15 F18 H16 F17 
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redreoicy: b sad too. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 F14 C11 B11 B14 B6 B5 B7 C14 B12 D17 D18 E18 C18 E17 B16 C5 J13 E15 A18 
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redreoicy: think b12 cut was better 
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;W[ff]
;B[gf]C[

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Animiral: b should probably respond and let white rescue his stick. It's still hard to kill b.. From move 0: D4 Q16 C16 Q4 O17 Q14 P15 Q15 Q18 Q11 F16 M18 N17 L16 R17 H17 R3 R4 Q3 P4 O2 C6 C8 E6 F4 D9 D8 E8 C9 D10 C10 D11 C12 D7 N3 N4 M4 O3 M2 M5 L4 O10 R9 R7 K6 D16 C17 N15 F7 F6 E7 G7 F8 E9 G9 D12 C13 G5 G4 J7 G11 G13 J9 K7 F12 D13 F13 D14 C15 F14 G14 
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