(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2024-12-22]
GN[Vriendschappelijke Wedstrijd]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/1386214]
PB[greenskined]
PW[Kassebas]
BR[18k]
WR[18k]
TM[1200]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
RE[W+76.5]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]

;B[dd]
;W[pp]
;B[dq]
;W[pc]
;B[nq]
;W[np]C[

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greenskined: Yeah, you give me a corner
greenskined: a part of
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;B[pr]
;W[qq]
;B[kp]C[

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Kassebas: this seemed good to me so far
greenskined: i play to safe here 
]
;W[pj]
(;B[pe]C[

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Kassebas: maybe the this move was a bit risky
Kassebas: so i think 11 was risky because there was no space towards the bottom left
greenskined: i could jump on q12 
greenskined: This is standart move 
]
(;W[qe]
;B[qf]
;W[qd]C[

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Kassebas: you couldnt extend
Kassebas: because of my stone at Q10
Kassebas: so that was in my advantage
]
;B[qh]
;W[pf]C[

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Kassebas: oh ok
Kassebas: I didnt know
Kassebas: I see
Kassebas: what did you think of my cut at Q14?
greenskined: Good move, because i haven’t strong group here
]
(;B[oe]
;W[nc]
;B[qg]
;W[cc]C[

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greenskined: There many joseki on 3-3
greenskined: under 4-4 
greenskined: For example 
greenskined: and we have standart
]
(;B[dc]
;W[cd]
;B[ce]
(;W[de]C[

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Kassebas: Oh I never used the review function
Kassebas: how does it work?
greenskined: I think so) 
greenskined: Or no
greenskined: I see 24 move 
]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[cb]C[

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Kassebas: The joseki in the top left I didnt remember
Kassebas: so I just made it up
]
;W[cf]
;B[bc]
;W[ce]
;B[hd]
;W[fe]
;B[fd]
;W[ge]
;B[gd]
;W[jc]C[

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Kassebas: what do you mean by "under 4-4"?
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;B[ib]
;W[ic]
;B[hc]
;W[ne]
;B[of]
;W[pg]
;B[ph]C[

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Kassebas: I think i see you forward the game
]
;W[ng]C[

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Kassebas: we see the same thing?
]
;B[og]
;W[nf]C[

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Kassebas: like now I see 46
greenskined: Oh, then cool. 
greenskined: Yes, me to
Kassebas: ah cool
Kassebas: so we start from beginning
]
(;B[qj]C[

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Kassebas: I think move 47 was maybe too soft
Kassebas: yes I agree
greenskined: To soft? Why?
greenskined: too
greenskined: i’m trying to make my upper group stronger, and create base for second eye 
greenskined: Invasion on what point
]
;W[qk]C[

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greenskined: Maybe on 48 it’s better to connect and after that jump to midle 
]
(;B[rk]C[

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Kassebas: Yes I think S9 was very risky
]
;W[rj]
;B[qi]
;W[rl]
;B[ri]C[

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Kassebas: It felt easy for me to close of the corner
Kassebas: I think maybe an invasion would have worked better
]
;W[sk]C[

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greenskined: Yeeeeah, on move 54 i lost a ston, so, it was stupid for me
]
(;B[cj]C[

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Kassebas: 55 was good I think
Kassebas: but maybe c6 
greenskined: I think on c6, and my move on c10 was greedy
greenskined: And too agressive 
Kassebas: 55 too agressive?
greenskined: I try to attack your upper group, but it was to
greenskined: I forget a word
greenskined: my bad english 
greenskined: bad attack 
Kassebas: hmm yes maybe for an attack playing closer would be better
greenskined: yes! 
]
;W[co]
;B[cp]C[

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Kassebas: D12
greenskined: yes, but d12 also bad for me and this part of game, becaus capture the left side — this is amount 12 points potentially 
]
;W[do]C[

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Kassebas: like 12D
]
;B[gq]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fp]
;B[fq]
;W[dk]
;B[ck]
;W[dl]
;B[cl]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]
;W[bn]
;B[bk]
;W[em]
;B[dh]
;W[fh]
;B[km]
;W[lo]
;B[lp]
;W[mo]
;B[mp]C[

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Kassebas: L7 was good
Kassebas: but also made it easy for me to play M7
greenskined: yes, i saw that you have strong walls, and tryed to invade center
greenskined: You also play very tight
greenskined: this create weak points in some situation
]
(;W[lm]C[

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greenskined: I try to understand, maybe you can invade on my bottom part early
Kassebas: Do you think is better to invade or make your own territory?
Kassebas: I think invasion of the bottom I should have tried earlier
greenskined: For now, i play more passive on early game, but too agressive on yose — final part
greenskined: So, this is bad tactic, as i think 
greenskined: You play more safe and create strong shapes
greenskined: Like this 
greenskined: Oh, i think, you could capture my stones on left side
greenskined: i find it
]
(;B[ko]C[

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Kassebas: oh interesting. Can you explain in more detail?
Kassebas: I play 'tight' and that creates weak points?
Kassebas: weak points for me?
Kassebas: and what you mean by tight?
greenskined: Because, when you play near my stones, you kill one of your  life line, and i can do hane on your stone
]
;W[kl]
;B[no]
;W[op]
;B[ln]
;W[mn]
;B[kn]
;W[ml]
;B[nn]
;W[mm]
;B[om]
;W[ok]
;B[pl]
;W[pk]
;B[qn]C[

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Kassebas: hmm yes
Kassebas: For myself, I play badly when I try very hard to capture
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;W[rn]
;B[ro]
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;B[ld]
;W[lc]
;B[fi]
;W[eh]
;B[cg]C[

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greenskined: On move 153
Kassebas: yes.. I'm looking
greenskined: So maybe yes, you can try to capture my group
Kassebas: Maybe yes
greenskined: If you want — try it! 
Kassebas: so we take turns?
greenskined: we can try, if this tool can do this 
greenskined: but i didn’t see how you placing the stone) 
greenskined: I see tools, yeah
greenskined: Okay
greenskined: but i didn’t see where you place the stone
]
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;B[bh]
;W[dg]
;B[ci]
;W[md]
;B[le]
;W[lg]
;B[kg]
;W[nh]
;B[oi]
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;B[jn]
;W[hp]
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;W[la]
;B[]
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;B[]
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)(;AW[am]C[

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greenskined: Two variations 
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;AB[al]
;AW[an]
;AB[bi]C[

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Kassebas: oh ok wait
Kassebas: lol
Kassebas: which one?
greenskined: Hmmm, i think, now i can see you moves 
]
)(;W[bh]C[

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Kassebas: I think so
Kassebas: I put a stone
Kassebas: at the top there are tools
Kassebas: then click the black stone
Kassebas: and place it
Kassebas: oh hmm
Kassebas: Like I made a variation
greenskined: Now i see) 
Kassebas: so..
greenskined: I place b13
]
;B[bg]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: I made a move
greenskined: ahaha
Kassebas: Ok In place it for you
greenskined: ty
]
;W[am]C[

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greenskined: b11
Kassebas: I dont think I can capture it
]
;B[bi]
;W[ak]C[

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greenskined: a10
]
;B[aj]
;W[al]C[

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Kassebas: you have already two eyes
greenskined: a12
greenskined: yeah
]
;B[ah]C[

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greenskined: But i think you can
Kassebas: so we start over?
Kassebas: Maybe you try
greenskined: yes
greenskined: ok
]
)(;W[bi]C[

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greenskined: than black a7
]
;AB[am]C[

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greenskined: a9
]
;AW[ak]C[

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Kassebas: yes
]
;AB[al]C[

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greenskined: you see?
Kassebas: not yet
]
;AW[aj]C[

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greenskined: damn) 
Kassebas: lol
Kassebas: are you cursing :P
greenskined: okay, wait
greenskined: Ok, can you start over on b11
Kassebas: ok
]
(;AB[ah]
;AW[ci]
;AB[ai]
;AW[bj]C[

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Kassebas: Ok I see
]
)(;AB[ci]
;AW[bg]
;AB[bj]C[

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greenskined: and this is also a vital point on b8
Kassebas: Ah I have to go
Kassebas: My girlfriend is going to sleep
Kassebas: it was fun chatting with you and looking at the game
greenskined: oh, okay. It was really fun! 
Kassebas: :)
greenskined: Have a good night 
Kassebas: good night!
greenskined: 1. From move 153: B11 A7 A9 A8 A10 C11 B13 B10 
]
))(;AW[bl]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: hmm
Kassebas: interesting
greenskined: so, if white group has 2 life lines and sente, they could kill black
greenskined: I think
Kassebas: I see it I think
]
))(;B[ll]C[

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Kassebas: oh I see
greenskined: Like that
Kassebas: Like I play against your stone
greenskined: And i first do atari on your stone 
greenskined: yes) 
Kassebas: I understand
greenskined: Maybe, i should do hane on your stone 
]
;W[ko]
;B[jo]
;W[kn]
;B[jn]
;W[kl]
;B[jm]
;W[lk]C[

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Kassebas: you make strong wall
Kassebas: that looks good
]
;B[ml]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: You right) 
]
))(;AW[ll]
;AB[lm]C[

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Kassebas: I think maybe yes
]
))(;AB[dh]
;AW[ck]
;AB[ef]
;AW[ee]
;AB[fh]
;AW[ch]C[

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Kassebas: hmhm
Kassebas: ok I agree
]
))(;B[qi]
;W[qn]
;B[ni]C[

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Kassebas: that seems better yes
Kassebas: I like that
greenskined: Oh, can you use tools to edit game?
greenskined: Like placing stones
]
;AW[nj]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: yes
]
))(;B[pm]C[

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Kassebas: Q7 maybe?
Kassebas: But I understand that you wanted to protect the upper group
Kassebas: and make a base
Kassebas: I didnt think of that
]
(;W[qm]C[

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greenskined: I don’t know, thas looks kinda dangerous for me 
greenskined: To go q7
]
;AB[oo]
;AW[op]C[

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Kassebas: hmm perhaps yes
]
)(;AW[om]
;AB[qj]
;AW[qk]
;AB[pk]C[

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Kassebas: I dont know what is the best
Kassebas: like when to invade
]
)))(;W[be]
;B[cf]
;W[bf]
;B[cg]
;W[bg]
;B[bh]C[

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greenskined: white have corner, but i have strong 
]
))(;B[cd]
;W[dc]
;B[ec]
;W[eb]C[

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Kassebas: E18
Kassebas: I see
Kassebas: Interesting
]
;B[fb]
;W[fc]
;B[ed]
;W[gb]
;B[db]
;W[fa]
;B[cb]
;W[bc]
;B[bb]C[This

-- chat --
Kassebas: Oh I see
greenskined: under star point on d16
greenskined: This joseki i show give me a corner, but you have strong group
greenskined: yeah) 
]
))(;B[qg]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: ok, it felt risky to me
]
;W[oe]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: I think R13 would have been better for you yes
]
;AB[qj]
;AW[qk]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: it seems so yes
Kassebas: white gets outside wall
]
)(;B[pg]
;W[of]
;B[qg]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: or that too
Kassebas: yes something like that
]
;W[qj]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: I think, this situation more strong for white
greenskined: i should jump like that
Kassebas: yes that looks good
]
(;B[nh]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: like try to enclose the bottom right
]
)(;B[oh]C[

-- chat --
Kassebas: the jump
greenskined: Only choise 
greenskined: You right, it was to bad to play q15
]
)))(;AB[ph]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: Coz after that i can jump
]
;AB[mh]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: Or build a base
]
))(;B[nc]C[

-- chat --
greenskined: Maybe this move 
]
))