(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-01-06]
GN[ปงปง vs. Forcewater]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/591610]
PB[ปงปง]
PW[Forcewater]
BR[10k]
WR[?]
TM[1200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
RE[B+R]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]
C[

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Forcewater: that's fine
]
;B[pd]C[

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Forcewater: :)
]
(;W[pp]
;B[dp]
;W[dd]
;B[nq]
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Diego_123: here, you should probably protect your base
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Forcewater: this looks a lot more solid than what happened
Forcewater: lol
Diego_123: you need to attack where you have more space : bottom
Forcewater: yeah
]
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;W[bp]C[

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Forcewater: he already had a stone above
Diego_123: you attacked the strongest
]
;B[cr]
;W[br]
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Diego_123: here, you build two cuts instead of one
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Diego_123: P11 becomes a good cut for black
]
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Diego_123: protect
]
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Diego_123: so basically here, your top is dead
Forcewater: yeah
Forcewater: i sensed that
Forcewater: so i decided to abandon ship
Diego_123: with a lot of invested stones
]
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;W[on]
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Forcewater: the good news is
Forcewater: i read the ladder out right
Forcewater: the bad news is
Forcewater: it's gonna get captured anyway
Diego_123: wondering if 
Diego_123: it's difficult, your two groups are weak
]
(;W[ok]
;B[nl]
;W[ml]
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Diego_123: now, Q9 is dead, so just let go
Forcewater: yeah i just didn't realise
Forcewater: i was so excited by the ladder
]
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Diego_123: this is not a ladder, because Q6
]
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Forcewater: mistakes were made
]
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Forcewater: yeah i was thinking slow and steady
Diego_123: idem, F2
Diego_123: or even F3
]
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Diego_123: with K7, you can at least fight for the group
Forcewater: i don't remember my reasoning for this move
Forcewater: i see why k7 is good, though
Diego_123: N3 gets you two points
]
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;W[fl]
;B[jm]C[

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Forcewater: i was running low on time here, so some of my moves didn't have much thought behind them
Diego_123: yeah, K7 before
Forcewater: oh i remember this move
Forcewater: f8
Diego_123: black saw K7
]
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Forcewater: because i wanted to cut at g6
]
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Diego_123: you need to connect F10
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Diego_123: here, you could try a battle for K10
]
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Forcewater: i see
Diego_123: this A1 stone just kills your hope to do anything in the area
Diego_123: so work elsewhere
]
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Forcewater: i was really low on time here
Forcewater: none of my moves had much thought
Diego_123: now , by trying to save an already dead group in the left/ bottom, you lost the center
Forcewater: yeah, for sure
Diego_123: right / bottom, sorry
]
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Forcewater: black ended up getting a lot more in the centre than i expected
Diego_123: the center AND F10
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Diego_123: now , pure panic, and you lose everything
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Forcewater: yeah like i said, i was just out of time
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Forcewater: hi
Diego_123: hello
Diego_123: remark that i'm not that strong, so
Diego_123: one of the major improvements i see is : don't play everywhere all the time
Diego_123: focus
Diego_123: first, urgent
Diego_123: groups in danger
Diego_123: second : 'big' moves
Forcewater: i think i was prioritising big moves over groups in danger
Diego_123: don't leave a fight until you see you are reasonably safe
Diego_123: build bases
]
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Forcewater: it's really cramped
]
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Diego_123: and you get a seki
Forcewater: i see i see
Diego_123: very good use of dead stones
Diego_123: not so dead in final
Diego_123: and at the same time, you get points in  the center
Forcewater: yeah
]
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Diego_123: and so on
]
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Diego_123: this group is in danger
Forcewater: i didn't realise that
]
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;W[lo]
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Diego_123: black M4 is probably dangerous for black
]
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Forcewater: my idea was to get something going at the bottom first, and then connect
Forcewater: since they didn't seem far away
Forcewater: but it looks like that was too ambitious
Diego_123: yes, they are too far
]
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Diego_123: if you want to do something, you can easily go 
Diego_123: M5
Diego_123: M2, sorry
Diego_123: L2 is too slow
]
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Diego_123: best you can expect
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Diego_123: this is not perfect, but still hope
Forcewater: what are my priorities in this kind of situation?
Diego_123: i would probably this
Diego_123: but after, it becomes complicated
]
))(;W[re]C[

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Forcewater: yeah i did consider that move too
]
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Forcewater: i thought p14 looked like a crucial pointm too
Diego_123: that group is in danger, so Eyeshape
]
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Forcewater: i see i see
]
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Diego_123: if not, you will lose the whole group
Forcewater: if it's in danger, then i should live first
Forcewater: before thinking about connecting
Diego_123: live or connect, but here you can't do both
]
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Diego_123: black needs this
Diego_123: if not
Diego_123: so black needs F3
Forcewater: i see
]
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Diego_123: then B5
]
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Diego_123: ok, there are other variations, but you see i'ts not good for black
Forcewater: yeah i understand
]
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Diego_123: seems better to me
Forcewater: because i secure some side territory?
Diego_123: and R13 group is not that safe
Forcewater: it looks like it'll have an easy time connecting to the top group
Diego_123: and R8 not alive
Forcewater: can you show me how to kill it?
Diego_123: yes, your right/ top group is fine
Diego_123: not easy, but can surround
]
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;B[le]
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;B[jd]
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Diego_123: something like this
Forcewater: ahh i see
Forcewater: because my side/corner is good here
Forcewater: black doesn't get much space
Diego_123: trying to kill is often less productive that threatening while building your own territory
Diego_123: black has so few points here
Diego_123: he is running, you are building
]
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Forcewater: i'm playing the moves i want to, and he's just trying to survive?
Diego_123: right
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Diego_123: ok, let'sgo bacck
]
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Forcewater: yeah i couldn't do much in this corner later
Diego_123: your top left can wait
Forcewater: because i already have a stone there?
Diego_123: yes
Forcewater: ahh and the opponent has more stones than me bottom right
Forcewater: closer to the corner
Diego_123: yes, and Q4 becomes weak, and opponent's corner grows
]
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Diego_123: 11 7 5 : a good base
Forcewater: i see
Diego_123: watch the cutting points
]
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Diego_123: bad
Diego_123: for both, but if your oponent is a bit stronger, bad for you
]
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Diego_123: better at your level (and even at mine)
Forcewater: keep it simple
Diego_123: yeah, you will mke a lot better by
Diego_123: urgent, than big
Diego_123: make life bases
Diego_123: watch your cuts
Diego_123: don't play everywhere
Diego_123: at least, you will not lose ALL your stones,like in this game
Forcewater: yeah LOL
Forcewater: stop trying to fight in 3 places, just survive at one first
Diego_123: hope it has been a bit of help
Forcewater: got it
Forcewater: yeah, that was super helpful
Forcewater: thank you so much!
Diego_123: good luck and see you 
Forcewater: thanks!!
]
)))