(;FF[4]
CA[UTF-8]
GM[1]
DT[2021-04-18]
GN[Friendly Match]
PC[https://online-go.com/review/654371]
PB[Faithy_7]
PW[fishku]
BR[6k]
WR[2k]
TM[1500]OT[3x45 byo-yomi]
RE[W+29.5]
SZ[19]
KM[6.5]
RU[Japanese]

;B[pd]
;W[dp]
;B[pp]
;W[dd]
;B[fc]
;W[cf]
(;B[dc]
;W[cc]
;B[cb]
;W[ec]
;B[db]
;W[ed]
;B[eb]
;W[fd]
(;B[gc]
;W[qc]C[

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fishku: I think this would be seen as good for white
fishku: black is completely sealed off
Faithy_7: yeah it would be
]
;B[qd]
;W[pc]C[

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fishku: you wanted to avoid the complicated joseki ;)
]
(;B[nc]
;W[nb]C[

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Faithy_7: what's the move here?
]
(;B[pj]
;W[mc]C[

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fishku: tenuki makes B pretty weak :) better to respond at least one more time
]
;B[nd]
;W[ob]
;B[fq]
;W[nq]
;B[lq]
;W[qq]
(;B[qp]
;W[pq]
;B[op]
;W[rq]C[

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Faithy_7: i dont know how to deal with moves like s5
Faithy_7: it's just so annoying
]
(;B[oq]
;W[or]
;B[nr]
;W[mr]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: i think my top left joseki was wrong since all the rest i did was for moyo
]
;B[np]
;W[mq]C[

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fishku: nah, I think it was good
fishku: you can play flexibly
]
(;B[rp]
;W[mp]
;B[mo]
;W[ni]
(;B[cn]
;W[dn]
;B[dm]
;W[en]
;B[co]
;W[cp]
;B[ck]
;W[fp]C[

-- chat --
fishku: I think this joseki isn't too good for white.
fishku: I'm not sure about the correct moves here.
]
;B[gp]
;W[eq]
(;B[fr]
;W[pi]C[

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fishku: do I have to give you control or something?
fishku: responding to W o11 was big
]
;B[oj]
;W[ng]
(;B[of]
;W[qi]
;B[oh]
;W[oi]C[

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Faithy_7: wanted to secure my group there while attacking you :D
]
;B[nh]
;W[nj]
;B[pl]
;W[qk]
;B[ol]
;W[ql]
;B[qm]
(;W[rm]
;B[rg]C[

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fishku: I like s13
]
(;W[qg]
;B[rj]
;W[qj]
;B[rh]
;W[pg]
;B[qf]
;W[og]
(;B[mh]C[

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fishku: here, just throw these stones away :)
]
;W[nl]
;B[pn]
;W[lg]
;B[li]
;W[lj]
;B[ki]
;W[ci]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: yeah i was dead set to harras your group with no eyes :D
]
;B[jq]C[

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fishku: we've all been there ;)
fishku: the thing is, you cannot harrass when your own group is weak
]
(;W[dl]
;B[cl]
;W[em]
(;B[dk]
;W[cm]
;B[bm]
;W[ek]
(;B[ii]
;W[ld]C[

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fishku: almost ;)
]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]C[

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fishku: this one is fine to leave like this. It reduces liberties of white
]
(;B[rd]
;W[lp]
(;B[kp]
;W[lo]
;B[mn]
;W[ko]
;B[jo]
;W[ip]
;B[io]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[gq]
;B[go]
;W[gr]
;B[hq]
;W[er]
;B[hr]
;W[fs]
(;B[hs]
;W[bc]
;B[bb]
;W[ej]
;B[bj]
;W[bi]
;B[bo]
;W[ik]
;B[jk]
;W[jl]
;B[kk]
;W[nm]
;B[rn]
;W[lm]
;B[kl]
;W[km]
;B[il]
;W[jm]
;B[hk]
;W[im]
;B[hl]
;W[hm]
;B[kg]
(;W[kf]
(;B[jg]
;W[ic]
;B[fg]
;W[eh]
;B[fh]
;W[eg]
(;B[ge]
;W[gd]
;B[hc]
;W[hd]TR[hc]TR[ic]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: here i was afraid of you getting f11 after cutting at f14
fishku: bumping your head needs to be read carefully. It steals your own liberties
]
(;B[fi]
;W[bp]
(;B[ao]
;W[ap]
;B[bd]
;W[cd]
;B[ac]
;W[be]
(;B[rr]
;W[qr]
;B[sq]
;W[rs]
(;B[rl]
;W[rk]
;B[sm]
;W[sr]
;B[lr]
;W[nf]
;B[oe]
;W[gj]
;B[hi]
;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[ie]
;B[hf]
;W[ad]
;B[fj]
;W[gk]
;B[sb]
;W[ra]
;B[ib]
;W[jb]
;B[jc]
;W[id]
;B[ha]
;W[kb]
;B[gl]
;W[fk]
;B[ai]
;W[ah]
;B[aj]
;W[cj]
;B[bk]
;W[bh]
(;B[di]C[

-- chat --
fishku: it looks cool, but are there other sente moves?
Faithy_7: m1?
Faithy_7: oh not sente
Faithy_7: n13?
fishku: right
]
;W[ei]
;B[dj]
;W[dh]C[

-- chat --
fishku: well it was sente in the end :)
]
;B[gi]
;W[hj]
;B[ij]
;W[on]
(;B[oo]
;W[ok]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: yeah that one was annoying :D
]
(;B[mm]
;W[pk]
;B[pm]
;W[ls]
(;B[kr]
;W[ab]
;B[ri]
;W[sp]
;B[so]
;W[ml]
;B[lh]
;W[ne]
;B[pf]
;W[md]
;B[od]
;W[kj]
;B[lk]
;W[mj]
(;B[jj]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: i need to get rid of this kind of mistakes... losing points 1 by 1 on moves i havent read enough
]
;W[fe]
;B[mk]
;W[ja]
;B[fb]
;W[mg]
(;B[ba]
(;W[ks]
;B[js]
;W[ms]
;B[eo]
;W[do]
;B[fo]
;W[sk]
;B[sj]
;W[sl]
;B[rm]
;W[ia]
;B[hb]
;W[dm]
;B[ep]
;W[fq]
;B[nk]
;W[ll]
;B[gm]
;W[fl]
;B[fn]
;W[hn]
;B[sc]
;W[ln]
;B[no]
;W[jn]
;B[oc]
(;W[qb]
(;B[om]
;W[nn]
;B[qh]
;W[ph]
;B[]
;W[ac]
(;B[aa]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: seki untill i die :D
]
;W[sq]
;B[]
;W[]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: here
Faithy_7: you have it
fishku: alright, I think you already knew the conclusion before the review
]
)(;B[sq]C[

-- chat --
fishku: heh
fishku: one more point here
fishku: I haven't looked at ko threats, though
]
))(;B[sq]C[

-- chat --
fishku: r12 and p7 are ko threats at this stage
Faithy_7: but why would you ko?
fishku: so play the ko first
fishku: I think some people call this a half point ko
fishku: so the winner will get one more point finally
Faithy_7: yeah, but in this game you wouldnt ko you dont need 1 point :P
Faithy_7: why risk anything for it
fishku: there's no risk, the groups on both sides are alive
fishku: but you're right, white doesn't need to care
fishku: just because you said you wanted to stop bleeding point by point
fishku: this is also one :) 
Faithy_7: true
]
))(;W[ac]
;B[lb]
;W[kc]
;B[pb]
;W[qb]
;B[pa]
;W[oa]
;B[mb]
;W[qa]C[

-- chat --
fishku: I was looking at some weird variations, but probably white was already safe
Faithy_7: n19?
]
;B[sa]
;W[aa]
;B[pb]
;W[pa]
;B[ma]
;W[lc]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: ah yeah safe
fishku: temporary seki or what you want to call it :p 
]
))(;W[sk]C[

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fishku: I was playing pretty slack endgame
fishku: this one is by far the biggest I think :)
]
))(;B[sk]C[

-- chat --
fishku: even here
]
))(;B[ef]
))(;B[ks]C[

-- chat --
fishku: I don't see a problem. Was there something else that you saw here?
]
(;W[ms]
;B[kr]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: no i saw l2 double atari :D
]
)(;W[kr]TR[jq]C[

-- chat --
fishku: when this move is there, it's usually safe
]
;B[ms]
;W[kq]C[

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fishku: self-atari
]
;B[jr]C[

-- chat --
fishku: no problem
]
;W[ns]
)(;W[ir]
;B[iq]
;W[kr]
;B[ms]
;W[jr]
;B[kq]
;W[ns]
;B[ls]
)))(;B[pk]
;W[pm]
;B[nk]
;W[om]C[

-- chat --
fishku: oh, it really worked
]
))(;B[pm]
;W[no]
;B[nn]
(;W[oo]
;B[om]C[

-- chat --
fishku: it was kind of a trick move
]
)(;W[om]
;B[oo]
)))(;B[mg]
;W[mf]
;B[lh]
;W[lf]
(;B[dj]
;W[di]
)(;B[dm]
)))(;B[sr]
))(;B[ad]
;W[ae]
;B[ab]C[

-- chat --
fishku: if you play a gote move, you have to play it out :) 
fishku: otherwise it was a bad exchange for black
]
))(;B[ap]
;W[aq]
;B[ao]
;W[bq]C[

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fishku: if you're going to defend, try to take as many points as possible
]
)(;B[lr]
;W[ao]
;B[an]
;W[ap]
;B[dm]
;W[mg]
;B[el]C[

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fishku: this ko is not so good for white to fight
fishku: so it might seem a bit risky, but you can restore your true eye in most cases
]
;W[fl]
;B[dl]
))(;B[bq]
;W[ff]
;B[gf]
;W[fi]
;B[gi]
;W[gj]
(;B[hi]C[

-- chat --
fishku: like so?
Faithy_7: in my mind it's hane :D
]
;W[hj]
;B[ij]
;W[hf]C[

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Faithy_7: haha i didnt even think of 7 connecting :D
]
;B[hg]
;W[jf]
;B[if]
;W[he]
;B[ie]C[

-- chat --
fishku: black seems quite fine
]
)(;B[hj]
;W[gh]
;B[hi]
;W[gg]C[

-- chat --
fishku: you saw this one then :)
Faithy_7: yeah
]
)))(;B[gd]
;W[ge]C[

-- chat --
fishku: nevermind :) 
]
;B[cd]
;W[bd]
))(;B[lf]C[

-- chat --
fishku: hane is overplay by white probably :) 
]
))(;W[lf]
))(;B[cd]
;W[ce]
;B[bd]
;W[be]
;B[bc]
;W[ir]
;B[iq]
;W[kr]
(;B[il]
)(;B[jl]C[

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fishku: black is dead locally, but no problem to run
]
;W[gl]
(;B[lm]C[

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fishku: you can also connect to the right in a second move
]
)(;B[ml]C[

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fishku: ( I think)
]
))))(;B[sb]
;W[ra]
;B[lb]
;W[mb]
;B[jb]
;W[pa]C[

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fishku: white doesn't mind too much
]
))(;B[le]
;W[me]
;B[md]
;W[kd]
;B[ke]
;W[jd]
))(;B[dm]C[

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fishku: taking here is free sente for you :)
]
;W[el]
;B[di]
;W[dh]C[

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Faithy_7: i got angry at myself there got 2 weak groups on the sides so i could never play c2, completely eliminating points and eyes
]
)(;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[es]C[

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Faithy_7: cant i connect with b4?
]
)(;B[cr]
;W[er]C[

-- chat --
fishku: white can run to the center. Probably the deepest you can go is d2
]
;B[bp]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: e1
]
;W[bq]
;B[cq]C[

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Faithy_7: now e2
]
;W[bo]
;B[br]
;W[ap]
(;B[bn]
)(;B[es]
;W[ds]
;B[dr]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: oh nvm XD
]
;W[fs]
)))(;B[cm]
))(;AB[lj]
)(;AB[ll]
;AE[lj]C[

-- chat --
fishku: if it were like this, you can harrass away
fishku: harass*
]
))(;B[ch]C[

-- chat --
fishku: the left side is big for both players
]
))(;W[ci]
;B[rj]
;W[qj]
;B[ri]C[

-- chat --
fishku: hm, okay
fishku: but it's gote for black
Faithy_7: yeah i need to work on sente midgame :D i only do that in endgame now
fishku: in general I felt like you played many gote moves when you didn't need to, leaving behind points for white to pick up
fishku: maybe you can try reading or estimating if a move is sente more
]
))(;W[rf]C[

-- chat --
fishku: white would like to have played at s14
]
;B[rc]
;W[rb]
;B[re]
;W[sc]
;B[rd]
;W[qf]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: s13 was aiming for s10 miai connection
]
))(;B[qg]
(;W[qi]
;B[oi]
;W[oh]
;B[ph]C[

-- chat --
fishku: what about this instead? playing so high at p14 keeps you floating still
]
;W[qj]
;B[qk]
;W[pk]
;B[ql]
;W[ok]
;B[nj]
;W[mj]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: yeah, make a base while stealing yours,,,
fishku: this fight looks good for black
]
;B[nk]
;W[nl]
;B[mk]
;W[lk]
;B[ml]
;W[mm]C[

-- chat --
fishku: ladder probably doesn't work for white
]
;B[ll]
;W[kl]
;B[lm]
;W[ln]
;B[km]
;W[jm]
;B[kn]
;W[ko]
;B[jn]
;W[in]
;B[jo]
;W[jp]
;B[io]
;W[ho]
;B[ip]
;W[iq]
;B[hp]
;W[go]
;B[kp]C[

-- chat --
fishku: nope :)
]
)(;W[pg]
;B[qh]
)))(;B[fo]
;W[ep]
;B[gq]C[

-- chat --
fishku: I expected this
]
;W[lp]
(;B[gm]C[

-- chat --
fishku: I'm very unsure about this :) maybe ask a stronger player about this
]
)(;B[kq]
;W[kp]
;B[jq]C[

-- chat --
fishku: pretty stable, still
]
)))(;B[oh]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: q12 here for sure next time :P
Faithy_7: yeah i just let you in instead of taking 4th line :D
]
(;W[nh]
;B[og]
;W[nk]
;B[pl]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: p12*
fishku: maybe something like this. I'm not too sure
fishku: but yeah, black's territory is majestic
]
)(;W[ok]
;B[pk]
;W[ol]
;B[pm]
;W[nh]
;B[og]C[

-- chat --
fishku: maybe like this
Faithy_7: especialy since i played s4
fishku: yes
fishku: and try to verify if your moves are really sente, even if they look elegant / tricky :) 
fishku: that's it, I gotta get some lunch now :)
fishku: I'll see you around!
Faithy_7: yup more reading is required! ty for the game and review i must cook myself :P
fishku: same same :) 
fishku: bye bye
Faithy_7: bye
]
)))(;B[mp]C[

-- chat --
fishku: this connection is super big. You can't have everything :) 
Faithy_7: s4.. fear of s5 again :D
fishku: yep, hehe
]
))(;B[np]
;W[mq]
;B[mp]
;W[lr]
;B[kr]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: i totaly missread that cut :D
]
;W[cn]TR[rp]C[

-- chat --
fishku: this is a weird-looking new joseki
fishku: bottom side is open, that's why this is playable for white
]
;B[dq]
;W[cq]
;B[cr]
;W[eq]
;B[dr]
;W[ep]
;B[er]
;W[fp]
;B[cp]
;W[co]
;B[bp]
;W[bo]
;B[bq]
;W[ro]C[

-- chat --
fishku: you mean here?
Faithy_7: ye
fishku: black chose influence when playing the sequence there
fishku: you can't have everything :) 
Faithy_7: so it's wrong for me to try to stop it? just push it down?
]
;B[rp]
;W[sp]
;B[qn]
;W[rn]
;B[qm]
;W[rm]
;B[ql]
;W[rl]
;B[rk]C[

-- chat --
fishku: white get's only a few points
fishku: it's not a big deal
Faithy_7: ah, i always think it should be cut off :D
fishku: you can't cut it off directly
]
)(;B[rp]
;W[np]
))(;B[pq]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[pr]
;B[or]
;W[qr]
;B[nr]
;W[qn]
;B[om]C[

-- chat --
fishku: you can also consider playing like this
Faithy_7: true i went wrong direction
fishku: hard to say... I would ask AI :)
]
;W[ql]
;B[fo]C[

-- chat --
fishku: but this looks like a good moyo, too
]
))(;B[me]C[

-- chat --
fishku: can I get control?
]
)(;B[mb]
;W[oc]
;B[nd]
;W[od]
;B[oe]
;W[pe]
;B[re]
;W[pf]C[

-- chat --
fishku: hane at n18 leads to this complicated joseki
Faithy_7: oh that's complicated :D
fishku: I'm not even sure about the follow up here, there are several
]
)(;B[mc]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: i'd like this more for B if there ladder was good
fishku: this is a simpler shape
]
;W[mb]C[

-- chat --
fishku: black would probably tenuki here
]
)(;B[oc]
;W[ob]
;B[mc]
;W[mb]
;B[lc]C[

-- chat --
fishku: this is also possible, reverts to standard sequence
]
;W[pj]TR[oe]C[

-- chat --
fishku: white will aim at this peep later
]
))(;B[oc]
;W[ob]
;B[nb]
(;W[nc]
;B[od]
;W[mb]
;B[pb]C[

-- chat --
fishku: possible.
]
;W[na]
(;B[rb]
)(;B[qb]
))(;W[rd]C[

-- chat --
fishku: but the board doesn't necessitate that special move in my opinion
fishku: still pretty open
]
;B[re]
;W[qe]
(;B[pe]
;W[od]
(;B[rc]
;W[nc]
;B[qf]
;W[rb]
;B[sd]C[

-- chat --
fishku: hmm
Faithy_7: i know you can turn that around i didnt wanna do it :;D
fishku: I don't think that's joseki ;) 
]
)(;B[pb]
;W[nc]
;B[rc]C[

-- chat --
fishku: usually W s16 is special
]
;W[qf]
))(;B[od]C[

-- chat --
fishku: or is it?
]
(;W[rf]
;B[rc]
;W[se]C[

-- chat --
fishku: looks great for W
]
;B[qb]
)(;W[rc]
;B[rf]
)))))(;B[cd]
;W[gc]
;B[bc]
;W[fb]
;B[mc]
))(;B[jd]C[

-- chat --
Faithy_7: this maybe?
fishku: equally good
]
))