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Rules: Japanese
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mark5000[7d]: It's text-based. There's no audio or video.
mark5000[7d]: Find past lessons at becoming 9-kyu-a-series-for-beginners
hopser[3k]: Hi mark5000, thank you for teaching us. These lessons help alot!
mark5000[7d]: You're welcome!
mark5000[7d]: We're coming up to the end. Maybe just a handful of possible topics left.
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Will there be 1k lessons next?
mark5000[7d]: Maybe!
mark5000[7d]: 1k would be a big jump from 9k. Maybe I'd do 5k or 3k next.
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tpnZbonek[1k]: hey mark
mark5000[7d]: Hey tpnZbonek
-LaXDon[17k]: Hi
mark5000[7d]: Hi -LaXDon
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-LaXDon[17k]: :D
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Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Variation: I'd try this
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bencostrell[6k]: but in this case, the suggested kick was also an attachment?
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mark5000[7d]: Ah, good eye.
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mark5000[7d]: This is an exception.
mark5000[7d]: There are competing proverbs at play
BHydden[7k]: mark you need to stream these <3 please sensei!
mark5000[7d]: Another proverb says that to attack, first deny your opponent a base.
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-LaXDon[17k]: Interesting
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hopser[3k]: But only because of Q10
mark5000[7d]: Q10 helps, yes. But kicking in a nopen position is also ok if you want to secure the corner a little more in exchange for a better position for your opponent on the side.
ls113[4k]: How do respond as a black, if white attempts to take a base anyway despite being kicked like at R9?
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BHydden[7k]: for securing the corner, don't R4 and S4 leave less aji than R5?
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tpnZbonek[1k]: block R10 seems big and is sente
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bencostrell[6k]: i played basically this exact sequence in my last game haha
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Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: What about a cut at o11 instead of p13?
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tpnZbonek[1k]: and then what
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Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Variation: I was thinking about something like this.
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mark5000[7d]: The important part is that if you play severely, your opponents will be in trouble.
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tpnZbonek[1k]: alpha black p9 seems problem
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bencostrell[6k]: or just a double atari
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: But can't W now build a base for r6?
tpnZbonek[1k]: p9 will put more pressure for white group
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tpnZbonek[1k]: did black need to respond?
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tpnZbonek[1k]: i mean, is it big loss?
bencostrell[6k]: things could get hairy if we don't respond and white plays r2 maybe?
mark5000[7d]: No.
Sir Clacksalot[4k]: ermagerd how much did I miss?
BHydden[7k]: it's playable, especially in handicap, but tenuki is possible
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Sir Clacksalot[4k]: is this a pro game or whats the subject here?
G-O[4k]: lesson to get to 9kyu by Mark
Sir Clacksalot[4k]: right
mark5000[7d]: This was a game between a 1d and a 7k.
tpnZbonek[1k]: no its 1d White vs black kyu player
Sir Clacksalot[4k]: thats usually how that goes
mark5000[7d]: Anyway, that's all the game I wanted to discuss. Black played passively time after time and is falling behind. At the same time, White is playing actively and making Black answer each move. I hope you remember to play actively even against stronger players!
bencostrell[6k]: Thank you!
tpnZbonek[1k]: thanks
torusle[8k]: thanks, mark.
hopser[3k]: Thank you!! :)
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AlessandroM[5k]: thank you
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skytale11[8k]: Thank you!!
jamessch16[9k]: Thank you.
mark5000[7d]: Of course, White still has a ways to go before the game becomes even. But if Black keeps playing like this, Black will surely lose. And Black did lose.
V.III.[6k]: Thank you !
mark5000[7d]: Learn from Black's missteps.
mark5000[7d]: Any last questions about the game or about active or passive play?
bencostrell[6k]: when they are playing out that invasion where white ends up with a ponnuki
bencostrell[6k]: what happens if black atari's at q11 instead of r11
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mark5000[7d]: Here?
bencostrell[6k]: one move later
bencostrell[6k]: right
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mark5000[7d]: It's the better move.
mark5000[7d]: Black played so paassively.
mark5000[7d]: Black may be scared because of the rank difference. But that's how dan players get you.
bencostrell[6k]: but planning to play that way is still worse than other responses to the invasion?
mark5000[7d]: Yes. It's still worse than alternatives.
bencostrell[6k]: gotcha
bencostrell[6k]: thanks
mark5000[7d]: White's diamond is still big influence, even if it's short a liberty now.
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mark5000[7d]: All right. Thanks for watching everyone.
mark5000[7d]: Find past lessons at becoming 9-kyu-a-series-for-beginners
BHydden[7k]: thanks for your hard work mark!
June 4, 2024
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