European Grand Prix Tournament

Move 264

Ashe Vazquez[7d]

6 captures

Siang Jie[8d]

3 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

Review by: Jumping[1k]

Move 0

October 30, 2022

[12:52] Jumping[2k]: Game will start very soon.

[12:53] Jumping[2k]: Time settings are fischer 50 min + 15s / move

Move 0 + 5

[12:55] bartosz[?]: What are the current standings?

Move 0 + 8

[12:56] Jumping[2k]: Stanislaw won all games so far, ashe lost to him, siang lost to him also

[12:56] Jumping[2k]: i dont think there is a digital wall list available

Move 0 + 10

[12:56] irglbriz[2k]: thx for the live transmission

Move 0 + 18

[12:59] Jumping[2k]: Hi Tristan :D

Move 0 + 27

[13:05] irglbriz[2k]: hi denis

[13:05] TangJieHao[3d]: who is Ashe?

[13:05] TangJieHao[3d]: unfamiliar with that name

[13:06] TangJieHao[3d]: whle im at it Siang Jie as well lmao

[13:06] bartosz[?]: Ashe must be Oskar Vasquez

Move 0 + 28

[13:10] Jumping[2k]: Bartosz is right. Siang is a player from munich that used to be 3p in Taiwan

Move 0 + 34

[13:12] Trevoke[7k]: Oscar made 7d EGF?

[13:12] Trevoke[7k]: Good for him!

[13:12] Jumping[2k]: He got something like 2658 rn

Move 0 + 35

[13:12] bartosz[?]: Siang won Munich tournament a week ago

[13:12] Jumping[2k]: They*

Move 0 + 57

[13:26] TangJieHao[3d]: and that was a mistake mi thinks

[13:26] Jumping[2k]: Share a variation and show how and why =)

Move 0 + 64

[13:28] TangJieHao[3d]: I think the game moves speak for themselves

[13:28] Kaiserderpreusen[10k]: hm a tournament were i live and i did not know:(

Move 0 + 65

[13:32] irglbriz[2k]: most tournaments happen on a yearly basis, so you'll get another shot next year

[13:35] Trevoke[7k]: TJ apparently has enough time during a serious game to analyze this one too :p

[13:36] Trevoke[7k]: This feels slightly hopeful from B, but I respect this plan

Move 0 + 67

[13:40] Trevoke[7k]: well at least so far counting is easy I guess

[13:40] Jumping[2k]: What is the current score then :)?

[13:42] TomiP[2d]: just click the "Estimate Score" button? :P

[13:42] Trevoke[7k]: B has around 57, W has 47.5 or so including komi, but that's only the countable points

Move 0 + 68

[13:43] Trevoke[7k]: At least that's my count as a lowly lowly kyu

Move 0 + 71

[13:48] Jumping[2k]: Ashe got 25 minutes left, Siang got 39 minutes left (initially 50)

Move 0 + 73

[13:53] TangJieHao[3d]: id argue white played slow with J7 and let black recoup the few points he lost

[13:53] TomiP[2d]: I feel like I agree with your argument

Move 0 + 74

[13:56] seequ[1d]: such arguers

Move 0 + 76

[13:57] TangJieHao[3d]: lets agree to agree

Move 0 + 81

[14:03] TangJieHao[3d]: tough game for white imho

[14:03] TangJieHao[3d]: Ashe has the thickness of a thousand walls here

[14:03] Trevoke[7k]: Well then I guess you gotta hope that a thousand walls are better than one

[14:04] Jumping[2k]: The only things it needs to tear down a wall is a spark of resistance that will grow - getting philosophical :D

Move 0 + 84

[14:12] seequ[1d]: I kinda hate games like this where bnoth players have two sides

Move 0 + 85

[14:14] Jumping[2k]: One side gone.

[14:14] seequ[1d]: heh

[14:14] seequ[1d]: two actually

[14:15] seequ[1d]: left side got kinda annihilated

Move 0 + 35

[14:15] Akim136[6k]: why is the 35th move not N4

[14:16] seequ[1d]: why would it be?

[14:17] Akim136[6k]: N4 good move

Move 0 + 36

[14:21] Trevoke[7k]: Sort of sounds like someone looking at the game with AI, but maybe it's a language barrier thing

Move 0 + 89

[14:22] Trevoke[7k]: Frankly I'm not actually good enough to comment on N4 as a move at that point in the game :/

[14:22] seequ[1d]: in my mind that kind of peeping is generally bad

[14:23] seequ[1d]: if it doesn't achieve something specific

[14:23] Jumping[2k]: maybe its to prepare shape for next move

[14:24] Jumping[2k]: like G13

[14:24] seequ[1d]: I was talking about N4

[14:24] seequ[1d]: F15 is countering white's shape point at G14

[14:25] Jumping[2k]: ashe 9 minutes, siang 23 minutes

[14:25] seequ[1d]: is it fischer or byo-yomi?

[14:25] Jumping[2k]: Fischer 50 + 15

[14:26] seequ[1d]: oof can get rough for ashe then

Move 0 + 94

[14:31] seequ[1d]: maybe not if white burns all of their time here haha

[14:36] seequ[1d]: maybe yes if black doex too

Move 0 + 95

[14:38] seequ[1d]: didn't see this one coming

[14:38] TangJieHao[3d]: ah Ashe's true style is showing now, once thickness has been gained they will go toe-to-toe in destroying territory lmao

[14:39] seequ[1d]: yeah they love to use influence to just nuke the board

Move 0 + 97

[14:44] Jumping[2k]: ashes in their last 2 minuts

Move 0 + 99

[14:47] Jumping[2k]: 10s, its a crime scence

Move 0 + 102

[14:50] seequ[1d]: that's a long 10s

Move 0 + 106

[14:53] Jumping[2k]: its 22 again :p

[14:54] Jumping[2k]: white leading?

[14:54] seequ[1d]: no clue

[14:54] seequ[1d]: looks close

Move 0 + 112

[14:57] seequ[1d]: interesting trade

Move 0 + 114

[14:58] Jumping[2k]: anyone understanding go here? someone must have lost at this trade x)

[14:59] seequ[1d]: looks good for black

[15:00] seequ[1d]: but i can't tell how good without counting

Move 0 + 116

[15:01] irglbriz[2k]: i won't pretend to understand what's going on, but it sure is entertaining

[15:02] Jumping[2k]: <3

[15:02] seequ[1d]: so black destroyed like 15 pts and gained 6, so overall corner is B+20ish and on the side white nuked .. 12ish?

[15:02] seequ[1d]: so black gained 3ish points?

[15:02] seequ[1d]: wait that's not right

[15:03] seequ[1d]: white nuked way more than 12

[15:03] Ten[1p]: Black must have destroyed at least 20 too

Move 0 + 118

[15:03] Jumping[2k]: ah, the someone understanding the game appeared

Move 0 + 119

[15:03] seequ[1d]: I got really confused with the numbers there haha

Move 0 + 120

[15:04] seequ[1d]: idk, both players destroyed a lot

Move 0 + 121

[15:04] Ten[1p]: Looks like white nuked 14 if black decides to defend with s6

[15:05] Jumping[2k]: so this is game over?

[15:05] Ten[1p]: If black’s gain is 26 points, that means black ended up playing a 12-point move

Move 0 + 123

[15:05] Ten[1p]: Which sounds like a pretty good value at this stage of the game

Move 0 + 130

[15:07] Ten[1p]: Black tenuki’d instead, and white got a six-point sente value with s6

Move 0 + 132

[15:07] TangJieHao[3d]: seems like black is going to pull ahead in endgame here

Move 0 + 140

[15:09] seequ[1d]: time?

Move 0 + 144

[15:09] Ten[1p]: I just counted, seems really close

Move 0 + 147

[15:11] TangJieHao[3d]: after playing an exhausting game, I invoke my right to use score estimator lmao

Move 0 + 153

[15:12] Ten[1p]: Sure looks like black ripped white off here

Move 0 + 167

[15:15] Ten[1p]: No idea what that was, black lost a bit with s14

Move 0 + 169

[15:16] Jumping[2k]: both less than a minute

Move 0 + 187

[15:21] Ten[1p]: Huh, I think black may actually be winning

Move 0 + 217

[15:27] Jumping[2k]: Fischer increment moves

Move 0 + 264

[15:38] Jumping[2k]: not gonna record dame moves

[15:38] Jumping[2k]: Counting

[16:56] bovatik849[1k]: still counting?

October 31, 2022

[5:27] TomiP[2d]: It’s a long count

November 1, 2022

[9:31] joachim[1d]: Black won this game with 6.5 points.

[9:32] joachim[1d]: The colors are not correct, Sing Jie played black.

November 2, 2022

[7:39] Wilhelm_BadenGo[?]: add .5 points, Komi was 7

[11:37] joachim[1d]: Thx, so it is +6 for black.