Unranked
Rules: Japanese
G1L1G12E13B11D12
Win %
Score
White wins by 96.5 points
Move 3
ldlework[5k]: it's an overplay
ldlework[5k]: we're on 13x13 now
grahamc[?]: oh!
grahamc[?]: haha I didn't even notice
ldlework[5k]: you need to corners, walls, middle real strong now :)
Move 2
ldlework[5k]: 3's and 4's
ldlework[5k]: until you can't anymore
grahamc[?]: well, I'll just do the inverse of that move
Move 3
ldlework[5k]: it's 5 in the horizontal direction
Move 4
ldlework[5k]: it's not "wrong" to play 5th line moves, but you gotta follow it up
ldlework[5k]: with a corner enclosure move
Move 5
ldlework[5k]: noice
Move 13
ldlework[5k]: never double hane to the wall
ldlework[5k]: look and figure out why
ldlework[5k]: then undo :)
grahamc[?]: I'm in shortage and trivial to capture?
ldlework[5k]: M10 is death to you
grahamc[?]: indeed!
ldlework[5k]: N8 will die too
Move 12
ldlework[5k]: the best move is the one your opponent wants to play
ldlework[5k]: in this case i'm hungry for M10 :)
grahamc[?]: to cut me, move in on the corner, and possibly capture M9?
ldlework[5k]: definite capture of M9
ldlework[5k]: possible move in on the corner
grahamc[?]: I am a bit annoyed my wife would never play this with me!
Move 13
ldlework[5k]: just want to point something out
grahamc[?]: please
ldlework[5k]: the formation you have right now
ldlework[5k]: with two stones alone the wall
ldlework[5k]: being your buffer
ldlework[5k]: this is rock solid
ldlework[5k]: go for this over the double hane
ldlework[5k]: every time
ldlework[5k]: as soon as i come around the side
grahamc[?]: since I cat cut you off at 2 spots?
ldlework[5k]: just close off
ldlework[5k]: yes
grahamc[?]: cool!
ldlework[5k]: you don't even need to respond right away :)
ldlework[5k]: so if i were to use this on you as a ko threat
ldlework[5k]: you can just scoff
ldlework[5k]: and win the ko
grahamc[?]: very cool
Move 14
grahamc[?]: hrm
ldlework[5k]: you'll have to give me something
ldlework[5k]: so which direction is more important
ldlework[5k]: which buddies need more help now that there's a white stone in town
grahamc[?]: my left edge is most in danger right now, E11 is sorta grouped with K10
ldlework[5k]: man you have such a great intuition
grahamc[?]: I kind of want to go at B3 but maybe that is reaching too much, when instead I should be creating a stronger group between C9 and B6
ldlework[5k]: that would just result in white B4
grahamc[?]: yeah no bueno
ldlework[5k]: You might B4, but white will hane at B3
Move 18
grahamc[?]: keima
ldlework[5k]: my staple
ldlework[5k]: remember the website StumbleUpon?
grahamc[?]: oh yeah
ldlework[5k]: you hit the button and it gave you a random website?
grahamc[?]: yup
ldlework[5k]: I discovered Go because I ended up on the primary Go wiki at the page "Cutting the Keima" which was all about the Keima's tactical properties
ldlework[5k]: And there were all these links in the text leading to other pages
grahamc[?]: oh wow
ldlework[5k]: i instantly fell into a three week hole
ldlework[5k]: lol
ldlework[5k]: been reading about it ever since
grahamc[?]: I kind of wish I started learning Go when I first started taking aderall and was on that initial high
Move 19
grahamc[?]: hrm
grahamc[?]: I kind of like and hate what I di
ldlework[5k]: will you be able to make eyes
Move 20
ldlework[5k]: probably
ldlework[5k]: i'll take middle influence
Move 23
ldlework[5k]: HMMMM
grahamc[?]: SAME.
Move 25
ldlework[5k]: dude just wait until i show you some of the epic $*!% from history
Move 26
grahamc[?]: you have some nice grouping going on E8 to C4
ldlework[5k]: you have all the territory though
ldlework[5k]: dude
ldlework[5k]: when i look at this board
ldlework[5k]: and remember it's your 4th game or something
ldlework[5k]: wtf!
ldlework[5k]: look at how logical and good the shape is
ldlework[5k]: gotta make it count though
ldlework[5k]: you need to shore up your weaknesses
ldlework[5k]: and make sure i don't get the whole middle and bottom
grahamc[?]: my thinking rightc now is you've cut my top group in to 2
ldlework[5k]: not completely
grahamc[?]: and maybe if I go at H11 I can counteract that
ldlework[5k]: but you'll have to work to keep them together
ldlework[5k]: is it better to just make a new group with the top two stones
ldlework[5k]: try to make a base with them
ldlework[5k]: Like your left group has an ok base
ldlework[5k]: ready to expand a bit more and make eyes
ldlework[5k]: you need that for your top group
ldlework[5k]: or you gotta connect them
ldlework[5k]: or abandon the top to me, whatevers :)
grahamc[?]: hehe
ldlework[5k]: do you hate H11?
grahamc[?]: no I don't
grahamc[?]: and actually I like it, but it also seems pretty reactionary
grahamc[?]: but yeah I'll go there
Move 27
grahamc[?]: visually that feels much more connected :)
Move 30
ldlework[5k]: :X
ldlework[5k]: you can't have the top and the middle!
grahamc[?]: " the best move is the one your opponent wants to play"
grahamc[?]: I was thinking you'd play at J11 and still didn't go there!
ldlework[5k]: lol
ldlework[5k]: let's reverse?
grahamc[?]: yeah
grahamc[?]: "can't have" I want it all, ldl!
ldlework[5k]: hehe
ldlework[5k]: it's only natural
Move 31
ldlework[5k]: I can explain it later
ldlework[5k]: but I think that's the losing move
Move 32
ldlework[5k]: well maybe that explains it
grahamc[?]: torn between G11 and F10 and F9: breaking up or somewhat infiltrating your area a bit seemed like a nice idea
ldlework[5k]: you needed something around E3
grahamc[?]: ah
ldlework[5k]: wanna try?
grahamc[?]: sure
Move 30
ldlework[5k]: notice
ldlework[5k]: my peep does nothing
ldlework[5k]: white G11
ldlework[5k]: black G12
grahamc[?]: the G10 was the peep?
ldlework[5k]: your intution to not be too reactionary is good
ldlework[5k]: Yeah
grahamc[?]: by nothing -> didn't put me in to shortage or atari, or even within striking distance of shortage?
ldlework[5k]: yeah you'll just stop me at G12
ldlework[5k]: so you can ignore
ldlework[5k]: an tenuki
ldlework[5k]: which means to leave local play and do something else
grahamc[?]: cool
ldlework[5k]: I think you need an invasion at the bottom
grahamc[?]: that makes sense
ldlework[5k]: how does one invade?
ldlework[5k]: you need to pick a point such that
ldlework[5k]: if i attack on the left
ldlework[5k]: you can extend a base to the right with enough room
ldlework[5k]: if i attack from the right
ldlework[5k]: you can extend to the left enough to make a base
grahamc[?]: I guess when it gets to that "$*!% for tat" play up in the top, thinking about if your move added any nearby risk is a good thing to think about
ldlework[5k]: def
ldlework[5k]: i was really just peeping
ldlework[5k]: so that you'd let me build a wall
grahamc[?]: "t i t" is a bad word apparently
ldlework[5k]: for my inevitalbe take over of the middle
ldlework[5k]: XD
ldlework[5k]: haha I was like "$*!% for tat?"
ldlework[5k]: $*!%
ldlework[5k]: argh
ldlework[5k]: I was like "s h i t for tat?"
grahamc[?]: lol
ldlework[5k]: "f u c k for tat?"
ldlework[5k]: got it
ldlework[5k]: heh
Move 31
ldlework[5k]: nice
Move 34
ldlework[5k]: monkey jump
ldlework[5k]: you can't cut G1 and D2
ldlework[5k]: go into analyze mode and try a few ways
grahamc[?]: sure enough
ldlework[5k]: so i've scooped out your base
ldlework[5k]: no place to make eyes
ldlework[5k]: how will these stones survive?
grahamc[?]: beautiful
grahamc[?]: I have to abandon that section
grahamc[?]: maybe try to curve around L3
grahamc[?]: K3
ldlework[5k]: interesting theory
grahamc[?]: uhoh
ldlework[5k]: maybe connect up?
grahamc[?]: yeah that is what I was thinking
grahamc[?]: maybe shore up H2 and F3 and then try coming around to L2
ldlework[5k]: this is going to be abstract
ldlework[5k]: and i might be wrong about it
ldlework[5k]: but just reading for myself
ldlework[5k]: i think you need to turn at K6 before linking under
ldlework[5k]: I mean, this plan would work better if I wasn't the wiser
ldlework[5k]: but if you think about it
ldlework[5k]: if you turn at the top first
ldlework[5k]: then come under
ldlework[5k]: you're threatening capture of that white group
ldlework[5k]: you also have the chance to link up with the stones at K10
grahamc[?]: mmmm whereas you could otherwise easily connect up at L8
ldlework[5k]: yeah then your black group is sealed in
ldlework[5k]: giving me the middle
grahamc[?]: cool
Move 36
ldlework[5k]: look at out two groups
ldlework[5k]: perfectly symmetric
ldlework[5k]: but it's your turn
ldlework[5k]: you're ahead in the capture race
ldlework[5k]: make it count
ldlework[5k]: :)
grahamc[?]: that is interesting
grahamc[?]: you have a notably stronger nearby presence
ldlework[5k]: yeah don't left the three white stones run out to their friends on the left
ldlework[5k]: don't let me atari K6 either
ldlework[5k]: as that will probably ruin the whole plan
grahamc[?]: exactly what I was thinking. I could shortage myself at L7, atari'ing you at L6... and from there I'm in the analyze mode :)
ldlework[5k]: consider also the nobi
grahamc[?]: I'm not sure where this ends up, but let's try it.
Move 38
grahamc[?]: atari?
grahamc[?]: or is that on purpose
ldlework[5k]: on purpose
grahamc[?]: hmmm
ldlework[5k]: forcing you to take my stone
ldlework[5k]: otherwise i will capture K6
ldlework[5k]: with J6
grahamc[?]: (unless I take J6, but then you can take M7)
ldlework[5k]: correct
Move 40
grahamc[?]: hm!
grahamc[?]: so much shortage
grahamc[?]: (and atari)
Move 41
ldlework[5k]: heh
ldlework[5k]: "$*!% ko"
ldlework[5k]: *fills*
Move 42
grahamc[?]: hmmm you have created a good capturing of the center
ldlework[5k]: you can try to cut at J5
ldlework[5k]: use your bottom stones to surround the 3 stones
grahamc[?]: I was going to go from the bottom up
grahamc[?]: try and distract a bit from the middle
ldlework[5k]: if I connect then they can't be capured
grahamc[?]: great point
Move 45
ldlework[5k]: you're in atari
ldlework[5k]: you gotta run out
grahamc[?]: oh $*!%
Move 47
ldlework[5k]: don't forget my weakness at J6 later
grahamc[?]: mmm
Move 48
grahamc[?]: the analyzer is really useful
ldlework[5k]: haha not sure i can get out of this
ldlework[5k]: yeah but don't let it stunt you
ldlework[5k]: it's like learning Visual Basic as your first programming language
ldlework[5k]: you get going real quick
ldlework[5k]: but you'll be unlearning it for years
grahamc[?]: by not practicing in my head?
ldlework[5k]: yeah
ldlework[5k]: don't take that too seriously right now
ldlework[5k]: just keep it in mind
Move 49
ldlework[5k]: too early for that
grahamc[?]: you sure? hrm.
ldlework[5k]: i'm about to connect up the stones you're trying to kill
ldlework[5k]: hmm not sure that works
grahamc[?]: maybe we can play a few out and come back to this point?
Move 53
ldlework[5k]: oh $*!% lol
grahamc[?]: want to go back? :)
ldlework[5k]: you definitely win with that one
ldlework[5k]: i'll fix if you want
grahamc[?]: we can undo back to move 49, or go ahead from here -- up to you
ldlework[5k]: just undo once
Move 52
grahamc[?]: yeah this is much trickier
ldlework[5k]: great job though, caught me off guard :)
grahamc[?]: :D
Move 54
ldlework[5k]: man i had to think that one out
grahamc[?]: I wasn't expecting you to go that route!
grahamc[?]: is this a time where it'd
grahamc[?]: be appropriate to go elsewhere
grahamc[?]: or should I dig in here
ldlework[5k]: if you don't think you can kill anymore, you need to make eyes in the middle
ldlework[5k]: either attack J6, or make jumps outwards
ldlework[5k]: to make room for the eye
ldlework[5k]: in a way I can't easily just counter and poke out
Move 56
grahamc[?]: maybe F7 wasn't the smartest thing
ldlework[5k]: undo?
Move 55
ldlework[5k]: just a tip, look at how great E5 makes eye space
Move 56
grahamc[?]: oh cool
ldlework[5k]: E4 is also good
Move 57
grahamc[?]: I'm in :)
Move 58
ldlework[5k]: need 2 though
ldlework[5k]: annoying how many stones it takes to surround just two stupid spots in the middle eh?
grahamc[?]: yup.
ldlework[5k]: you already know
ldlework[5k]: holy $*!%
grahamc[?]: uh oh
ldlework[5k]: i just found a huge attack against me
ldlework[5k]: :O
grahamc[?]: ...do go on
ldlework[5k]: you can find it
ldlework[5k]: where's my weakest group
ldlework[5k]: what's the one move that cuts it off such that i can't recover?
ldlework[5k]: $*!%...
grahamc[?]: okay so your leftward side is pretty meh imo
ldlework[5k]: nah
ldlework[5k]: this group is in DANGER
ldlework[5k]: you can kill it in one move
grahamc[?]: is it the (backwards) "h"?
ldlework[5k]: no
grahamc[?]: :thinking:
ldlework[5k]: heh i think this is an excellent challenge
ldlework[5k]: i think you should figure it out, even if you gotta take it as homework
grahamc[?]: thinking.
ldlework[5k]: oh
ldlework[5k]: acutally you're a move short
ldlework[5k]: I have one too many liberties
ldlework[5k]: dang
ldlework[5k]: sorry for the hype :(
grahamc[?]: :) okay, tell me which liberty to take away?
grahamc[?]: (so that it would be the attack you thought it'd be)
ldlework[5k]: J8
ldlework[5k]: White can't connect the group on the top right
ldlework[5k]: black J8, white J9, black K9
grahamc[?]: oh and then trivial to atari at N8/M7
ldlework[5k]: yeah
grahamc[?]: nice
ldlework[5k]: but the small black group at J7 J8 only have two liberties
Move 59
grahamc[?]: :)
Move 64
ldlework[5k]: you are reducing me
Move 65
ldlework[5k]: I see what you're doing, it's not a bad idea
Move 68
grahamc[?]: hmmm
grahamc[?]: this is SO fun.
ldlework[5k]: hahaha
ldlework[5k]: i can't wait to show you some epic matches from history
ldlework[5k]: you will be like
ldlework[5k]: holy $*!% the pros are absolute gods
ldlework[5k]: standing on mountains so high we can't see
ldlework[5k]: not just good shape
ldlework[5k]: but 100+ move traps
grahamc[?]: mind going back a couple moves?
ldlework[5k]: sure
grahamc[?]: me 1, you 1
grahamc[?]: hm!
Move 69
grahamc[?]: also you have a nice eye at h6/j7 that I just noticed
Move 70
ldlework[5k]: make it two
grahamc[?]: oh dear
Move 73
ldlework[5k]: hehe you're good there
ldlework[5k]: no invasion possible
ldlework[5k]: you're also connected to your top right corner
grahamc[?]: oh nice
grahamc[?]: should I undo?
ldlework[5k]: yeah sure
Move 72
ldlework[5k]: save your top left i guess
ldlework[5k]: you could monkey jump me on the far left
ldlework[5k]: but it wouldn't do much since that group really just need eyes
ldlework[5k]: monkey jump is only for scooping
grahamc[?]: how about B4
ldlework[5k]: it does make eye space
ldlework[5k]: but not sure enough
ldlework[5k]: try it
ldlework[5k]: lol suddenly there's 6 people in here
grahamc[?]: hmm mabye C3
ldlework[5k]: hmm what would you want to do with it
Move 74
grahamc[?]: I'm not sure, let's find out
grahamc[?]: one sec
ldlework[5k]: we're losing viewers!
ldlework[5k]: hehe np
ldlework[5k]: btw people watching
ldlework[5k]: use the arrow keys to go to the beginning
ldlework[5k]: and see how the game developed
ldlework[5k]: i believe the chat will even update
ldlework[5k]: showing what we said then
grahamc[?]: oh cool
Move 76
grahamc[?]: dang lol
ldlework[5k]: heh you're trying real hard
ldlework[5k]: i love it
cole_h[?]: Hello :)
Move 84
grahamc[?]: oooooooo
grahamc[?]: cooooool
ldlework[5k]: lol
ldlework[5k]: what
grahamc[?]: D8 vs. E7
ldlework[5k]: yeah hard to cut a kosumi
grahamc[?]: trying to prevent you from closing that circle around C10
Move 88
grahamc[?]: interesting
Move 90
grahamc[?]: mm nice
Move 92
ldlework[5k]: i'm gettin the monkeys ready
Move 93
ldlework[5k]: noooooo
ldlework[5k]: :)
grahamc[?]: <3
Move 94
ldlework[5k]: QUADRUPLE HANE TO THE WALLL WALLL WALLL WALLL
grahamc[?]: I saw the hane to the wall! now I'm trying to remember the ways to attack it. D13 is obvious
ldlework[5k]: no
ldlework[5k]: D13 is atari
grahamc[?]: oh right
ldlework[5k]: you need F13 first
ldlework[5k]: or D11
ldlework[5k]: then you can cut
grahamc[?]: I was eyeing D11
ldlework[5k]: to atari
grahamc[?]: but F13 seems better to put a stop to that
Move 95
grahamc[?]: (13x13 is a lot bigger)
Move 96
ldlework[5k]: standard is 19x19!!!
grahamc[?]: help
ldlework[5k]: lol
Move 98
ldlework[5k]: I can't believe I did that
grahamc[?]: can't believe -> overjoyed, can't believe -> want to undo?
ldlework[5k]: hehe it's fine
Move 99
ldlework[5k]: i just like the more simple play of G11
Move 100
grahamc[?]: ah
Move 101
ldlework[5k]: holy $*!%!
grahamc[?]: =)
ldlework[5k]: you just did that
ldlework[5k]: ok now you gotta choose then
Move 102
ldlework[5k]: :)
grahamc[?]: hmmmm
ldlework[5k]: you got me explaining the game to cole-h in IRC
grahamc[?]: every time I "hmm" and "ooo", btw, I am laughing out loud at the trickiness.
ldlework[5k]: "psst, start asking ldlework questions"
grahamc[?]: you see this cole-h^ ? help me out!
ldlework[5k]: he just highlighted me!
ldlework[5k]: or she, w/e
Move 108
grahamc[?]: hell
Move 109
grahamc[?]: :)
Move 111
grahamc[?]: does my group have 2 eyes?
grahamc[?]: A13, D13?
ldlework[5k]: one eye depends on A12 which can't be directly connected to the others
ldlework[5k]: so if it dies, the eye does too
grahamc[?]: ah
Move 112
grahamc[?]: back in a minute
ldlework[5k]: k
Move 118
grahamc[?]: ohno
grahamc[?]: oh $*!%!
ldlework[5k]: be extra wary of atari on the walls
Move 120
grahamc[?]: dying
ldlework[5k]: i think all you're getting is bottom right
Move 122
ldlework[5k]: oopd
ldlework[5k]: ok and some in the upper right :)
Move 125
ldlework[5k]: nice
Move 127
ldlework[5k]: nice
ldlework[5k]: didn't just take the atari
Move 129
ldlework[5k]: i think that's it
grahamc[?]: I buy that
grahamc[?]: I'm hungry anyway :x
Move 131
grahamc[?]: massacre
ldlework[5k]: you did excellent
grahamc[?]: thank you!
ldlework[5k]: let's play again soon
grahamc[?]: okay, I'd like that
ldlework[5k]: o/
grahamc[?]: \o
grahamc[?]: hey look I even was on top for a while there
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