Game Finished

Move 39

grahamc[?]

0 captures

ldlework[7k]

3 captures

+ 5.5

Ranked

Rules: Japanese

Processing

Black wins by Resignation

Move 4

April 14, 2020

[20:43] grahamc[?]: nice

[20:43] ldlework[6k]: lol

[20:43] grahamc[?]: also just learned the Chat vs. Malkovich option

[20:43] ldlework[6k]: remember when it was matrix code?

[20:44] grahamc[?]: yup :)

Move 5

[20:44] ldlework[6k]: now you can interpret the fourth move

Move 10

[20:46] ldlework[6k]: we're gonna have to kick it up to 13x13 soon, getting a little tight in here XD

Move 11

[20:46] grahamc[?]: yeah :)

Move 12

[20:46] grahamc[?]: I can feel the 13x13 more in my brain

[20:46] grahamc[?]: but also they're a bit long for a casual mid-day game :P

[20:46] grahamc[?]: oh nooo

[20:47] ldlework[6k]: i can change the timing rules so you only get a few seconds :)

[20:47] grahamc[?]: LOL.

Move 14

[20:48] grahamc[?]: $*!% lol

[20:48] ldlework[6k]: undo?

[20:48] grahamc[?]: I'm not sure what I would do instead

Move 13

[20:48] ldlework[6k]: feel free to think it over

Move 12

[20:49] grahamc[?]: okay probably'd be good to be nobi to D4

[20:50] ldlework[6k]: the symmetry does put a choice of direction onto you

[20:50] grahamc[?]: and protect my already fairly owned area, around E3

Move 16

[20:51] grahamc[?]: "shortage" "atari" "poke his eyes out"

Move 19

[20:52] ldlework[6k]: never triple hane to the wall

[20:52] grahamc[?]: right of course

[20:52] ldlework[6k]: or double hane rather

[20:52] grahamc[?]: I was also thinking "end game ceremony" there

Move 20

[20:53] ldlework[6k]: think "capturing race"

[20:53] ldlework[6k]: if your turn so we better at least be even......

[20:54] ldlework[6k]: i don't think you can afford A4

[20:54] ldlework[6k]: or at least you'll have to right now do the move you should've done instead of A4 anyway

[20:55] ldlework[6k]: which is a waste, so let's undo before A4

[20:55] ldlework[6k]: and find a better move

[20:55] grahamc[?]: here right now I'm thinking okay we've sort of reached a neutral point here, maybe I should tenuki and see what you do there. I'm not sure what I should have done instead of A4

[20:55] grahamc[?]: okay

Move 19

[20:55] ldlework[6k]: you can't tenuki here

Move 18

[20:55] ldlework[6k]: this fight will determine the game for sure

[20:55] grahamc[?]: ah :)

[20:55] ldlework[6k]: let's think through this

[20:56] ldlework[6k]: 1. what are the groups involved in this fight

[20:56] ldlework[6k]: B4 / C6,C5 / D4,D3

[20:56] ldlework[6k]: right?

[20:56] grahamc[?]: okay so I'm looking here, thinking don't hane to the wall. I have B4 in shortage shortage , and nothing in atari. those are indeed the groups involved, and the threat is against pretty much the entire quadrant

[20:56] ldlework[6k]: right

[20:56] ldlework[6k]: so B4's shortage is important

[20:57] ldlework[6k]: white's groups have 3 or more liberties

[20:57] ldlework[6k]: so B4 is the odd one out here

[20:57] ldlework[6k]: how can we "fix" B4 so it's not an issue

[20:57] ldlework[6k]: and put ourselves ahead in the capture race in general

[20:58] grahamc[?]: well , right, so the first thing I did (bad) was hane to the wall and try to make that a group, but no go. then attach at A4 -- but no go too, I suppose you're saying B5 to make that a direct nobi, but I'm thinking the problem is in A1's quadrant and not thinking about B5

[20:58] ldlework[6k]: yeah B5 is a way to fix

[20:59] ldlework[6k]: if you don't I'll atari

[20:59] ldlework[6k]: B5 is not the only way to fix

[20:59] grahamc[?]: are you saying to give up on the A1-D2 area?

[20:59] ldlework[6k]: but it's hard to explicate the differences between the other choices outside of review

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: not at all but if you hope to get that

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: you can't lose B4

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: because then my group is not at all in danger

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: and I can then attack in confidence

[21:00] grahamc[?]: right

[21:00] grahamc[?]: okay, cool

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: you can' lose anything, we're in a very tight fight

[21:00] grahamc[?]: "look up"

[21:00] ldlework[6k]: I did 3x3 invade after all :)

Move 19

[21:00] grahamc[?]: "nose glued to the handlebars"

[21:01] ldlework[6k]: i'll be honest

[21:01] ldlework[6k]: i can't actually read this all out into my favor

[21:02] grahamc[?]: visually, this looks strong to me

[21:03] grahamc[?]: but what do I know :D

[21:03] ldlework[6k]: lol no i think i'm dead

[21:03] ldlework[6k]: this is the best I got

[21:03] ldlework[6k]: here goes

Move 20

[21:05] grahamc[?]: okay, ... uh ... I have 2 thoughts here. I'll try one and if you hate it, I'll tell you my other :P

Move 21

[21:05] ldlework[6k]: nah

[21:06] ldlework[6k]: this is good

[21:06] grahamc[?]: okay

Move 22

[21:06] ldlework[6k]: look at that advanced technique :)

[21:06] grahamc[?]: :P

[21:06] ldlework[6k]: what is interesting about it?

[21:06] grahamc[?]: about your kosomi?

[21:06] ldlework[6k]: yeah why C1 over D1

[21:07] ldlework[6k]: that is has hidden meaning

[21:07] grahamc[?]: you have a lot more paths to connect to B3 / C3

[21:07] ldlework[6k]: we call it tesuji

[21:07] grahamc[?]: and also

[21:07] grahamc[?]: you could go in a few ways to get some eyes I think

[21:07] grahamc[?]: so I think my job here is to poke your eyes out

[21:07] ldlework[6k]: think about this progression

[21:07] ldlework[6k]: instead of C1

[21:08] ldlework[6k]: white D1 black C2 white D1 black C1 white E1 black F1

[21:08] ldlework[6k]: oh I did D1 twice

[21:08] ldlework[6k]: the point is you can cut at C2

[21:08] ldlework[6k]: killing the two stones

[21:09] ldlework[6k]: but with this move

[21:09] grahamc[?]: oh right

[21:09] ldlework[6k]: you can't cut there

[21:09] ldlework[6k]: can you can't play D1 either!

[21:09] grahamc[?]: I can only kill 1 at a time

[21:09] grahamc[?]: oh right

[21:09] grahamc[?]: nice!

[21:09] ldlework[6k]: :D

[21:10] grahamc[?]: okay, cool, and I can't really do C2 since that'll be atari

[21:10] grahamc[?]: neat

[21:10] ldlework[6k]: that shape is a tiger's mouth

[21:10] grahamc[?]: B3, C3, D2, C1?

[21:10] ldlework[6k]: same for C1 and D2, but the wall is standing in for the third stone

[21:10] grahamc[?]: gonna look up tigers mouth

[21:10] ldlework[6k]: just the triangle shape

[21:10] ldlework[6k]: the three stones make

[21:10] ldlework[6k]: that make going in the middle instant atari

[21:11] grahamc[?]: oh okay

[21:11] ldlework[6k]: C3 D2 C1

[21:11] grahamc[?]: ahh!

[21:11] grahamc[?]: got it

[21:12] ldlework[6k]: I did read out a response for you

[21:12] ldlework[6k]: that kills me

[21:12] grahamc[?]: this is frightful!

[21:12] grahamc[?]: Ím going to the simulator

[21:13] ldlework[6k]: hahahaha

Move 23

[21:15] grahamc[?]: let's see what hapens :P

[21:15] ldlework[6k]: you $*!%

[21:15] grahamc[?]: haha what did you say

[21:15] ldlework[6k]: OK

[21:15] ldlework[6k]: that was one of the moves I saw

[21:16] ldlework[6k]: but I just figured a way out

Move 24

[21:16] grahamc[?]: oh no

[21:16] ldlework[6k]: i'd say it's genius

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: but it just kinda appeared to me

Move 26

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: oh dang

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: i'm an idiot

[21:17] grahamc[?]: want to undo?

Move 25

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: well without that

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: pretty sure i'm screwed

[21:17] ldlework[6k]: but let's see if you can play it out

[21:18] grahamc[?]: okay

[21:18] grahamc[?]: (your turn)

[21:18] ldlework[6k]: hahaha yeah i know !!

[21:18] grahamc[?]: okay, just wanted to make sure!

[21:19] ldlework[6k]: lol

Move 27

[21:20] grahamc[?]: I see the double-hane but ... I think I want this

[21:20] grahamc[?]: hane*

Move 28

[21:21] grahamc[?]: uh oh he's coming around the bend

[21:21] ldlework[6k]: hehe

[21:22] ldlework[6k]: look at the groups

[21:22] ldlework[6k]: see their liberty counts

[21:22] ldlework[6k]: see who is ahead of who and who you can punish, or who you need to grow, etc

[21:23] ldlework[6k]: do you need to grow a group, or can you just push one you're on equal footing with

[21:23] ldlework[6k]: etc etc etc

[21:23] grahamc[?]: wait

[21:23] grahamc[?]: oh $*!%

[21:24] ldlework[6k]: this fight is really complex

[21:24] ldlework[6k]: and i'm honestly astounded you can read it at all

[21:24] grahamc[?]: okay so

[21:24] grahamc[?]: I've played with this option a few ways

[21:24] grahamc[?]: let's see what happens, knowing full well it may not work lol

Move 30

[21:25] ldlework[6k]: OK

[21:25] ldlework[6k]: let's see if what I taught you stuck :P

[21:26] grahamc[?]: I have options here that you're going to hate

[21:26] grahamc[?]: but I'd love to play them out

[21:26] ldlework[6k]: hahaha

[21:26] ldlework[6k]: that's the spirit

[21:26] grahamc[?]: so, maybe if it gets real $*!% we can undo a bunch? :)

[21:26] ldlework[6k]: for sure

Move 32

[21:28] ldlework[6k]: haha this is such an awesome fight

[21:28] grahamc[?]: ah $*!% it isn't going to work

[21:28] grahamc[?]: here is what I was playing with

[21:28] grahamc[?]: eh what the heck

Move 36

[21:29] grahamc[?]: yeah exactly lol

[21:29] ldlework[6k]: let's go back a few

Move 32

[21:29] ldlework[6k]: OK

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: the situation is this

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: your upper left group

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: only has 3 liberties

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: the upper group surrounding it is totally safe

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: so that's like the top of your stack

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: how to make the black group live

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: either kill the bottom white group

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: or make life

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: the white group we could kill

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: has 4 liberties

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: more than our 3

[21:30] ldlework[6k]: when you play A4

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: you actually remove one of that groups liberties bringing it to 2

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: a shortage

[21:31] grahamc[?]: oof right

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: meaning i can atari

[21:31] grahamc[?]: nice

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: a move like B7 is all I can see from this position

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: but more importantly

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: when you played C2

[21:31] grahamc[?]: okay so if I go to B6 I extend it to just 1 more, but kosomi at B7 adds 2 more

[21:31] ldlework[6k]: that let me play B2

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: threatening to give me two eyes

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: D2 is currently a false eye

[21:32] grahamc[?]: yeah, so I'd simulated a bunch of ways I could capture your entire group but ... yeah :P

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: so I need to connect it at D1

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: then it is alive

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: so let's go back even further

[21:32] grahamc[?]: okay

Move 30

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: 3 space eye

[21:32] ldlework[6k]: but!

[21:33] ldlework[6k]: make sure that you can actually take advantage of having the chance to take the vital point

[21:33] ldlework[6k]: compared to the capture race of this white group we're poking out

[21:33] ldlework[6k]: and the black groups liberties

[21:33] grahamc[?]: right

[21:33] ldlework[6k]: simulator ho!

[21:33] grahamc[?]: I wish there was a "typing indicator" :P

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: hehe

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: you would never go B6 here

[21:34] grahamc[?]: no, I wasn't goingh to

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: yeah

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: i'm pretty sure if I get B2 I'm alive

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: You could theoretically take D2

[21:34] ldlework[6k]: but the way the shape is

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: it will take you two stones

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: so I will connect at D1

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: then it's alive

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: and becomes a matter of whether your black upper left is alive

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: so not taking B2 here is a big choice

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: oh you could start a Ko too

[21:35] ldlework[6k]: lol

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: by playing d1 I guess

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: interesting

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: which would let you threaten

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: with other big plays on the board

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: or trying to keep your upper left alive

[21:36] ldlework[6k]: this game is rich

[21:36] grahamc[?]: $*!% I was simulating but the simulator started at an old spot :P

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: lmao

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: ah that's why you want a typing indicator

[21:37] grahamc[?]: okay I was looking at taking E1 to strengthen that group

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: because i just said a bunch of stuff

[21:37] grahamc[?]: but I also like taking B2

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: do you see how D1 starts a Ko?

[21:37] grahamc[?]: yeah

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: oh

[21:37] ldlework[6k]: If Black E1, White B2 Black D1

[21:38] ldlework[6k]: if Black E1 and White D1 then black B2

[21:38] ldlework[6k]: rip

[21:38] ldlework[6k]: gg

[21:38] grahamc[?]: yeah that is what I was seeing :D

Move 32

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: just kidding

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: ;P

[21:39] grahamc[?]: haha

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: hahaha

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: capture races broooo

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: actually that doesn't work

[21:39] ldlework[6k]: i'm double kidding

[21:39] grahamc[?]: LOL

Move 31

[21:40] ldlework[6k]: you just atari and that stone is dead

[21:40] ldlework[6k]: let's see

[21:40] ldlework[6k]: oh

Move 32

[21:41] ldlework[6k]: actual misclick that time

[21:41] grahamc[?]: welp

[21:41] grahamc[?]: oh $*!%

[21:42] grahamc[?]: nonono

[21:42] ldlework[6k]: you can make it out of this

[21:42] ldlework[6k]: you have to use things i already taught you :D

[21:42] grahamc[?]: okay

[21:42] grahamc[?]: let's review

[21:42] grahamc[?]: I'm in shortage in that B4 group

[21:43] ldlework[6k]: yep

[21:43] grahamc[?]: A4 actually takes away a liberty

[21:43] ldlework[6k]: yep

[21:43] ldlework[6k]: cole!!

[21:43] grahamc[?]: what is Cole doing? :)

[21:43] ldlework[6k]: they are here

[21:44] grahamc[?]: oh, cool!

[21:44] ldlework[6k]: heh "wtf are these whackos saying about this matrix code?"

[21:44] grahamc[?]: A6 or B7 are the only options to add liberties to that group, since B6 keeps the liberties the same.

[21:44] ldlework[6k]: B6 is not your only option

[21:45] ldlework[6k]: err

[21:45] ldlework[6k]: sorry i misread that

[21:45] ldlework[6k]: I actually didn't read out A6

[21:45] grahamc[?]: ah

[21:45] ldlework[6k]: no

[21:45] grahamc[?]: so then continuing this train of thought, I'm thinhking B7 since it starts to reach out of this mess instead of just filling in

[21:45] ldlework[6k]: A6 doesn't work

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: maybe you can tell me why

[21:46] grahamc[?]: "hane to the wall"

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: no

[21:46] grahamc[?]: $*!% :P

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: read it out

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: or play it out in sim

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: you put white into atari with A6

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: so they connect...

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: then you...?

[21:46] ldlework[6k]: then they?

[21:47] grahamc[?]: :P okay okay one sec

[21:48] grahamc[?]: yeah so obviosuly they connect at A4, and I'm forced to go at B6 because I'm in atari so you go at B7 or A7 and then I'm in atari again, I go at A7, still in atari, you got at A8 and suffocate me

[21:49] ldlework[6k]: yep

[21:49] ldlework[6k]: i love how you kept my metaphor about suffocating instead of saying capture

[21:49] ldlework[6k]: it's cute

[21:49] ldlework[6k]: lol

[21:49] ldlework[6k]: but yes A4 wont work

[21:50] ldlework[6k]: what about your other guess?

[21:50] grahamc[?]: I got a highlight on #nixos and now I'm in the simulator looking at a piece at B7. also, I didn't realize suffocation was your metaphor and not the game's :)

[21:51] ldlework[6k]: hehe

Move 34

[21:52] grahamc[?]: that is exactly where I thought you'd go!

[21:53] ldlework[6k]: puts you back in atari

[21:53] ldlework[6k]: there's only one move for you

[21:53] grahamc[?]: yeah I know :(

[21:53] grahamc[?]: I guess I should take it

[21:53] ldlework[6k]: haha

[21:53] grahamc[?]: instead of experimenting with the future

Move 36

[21:54] grahamc[?]: shortage, but with good options I thnik

[21:54] ldlework[6k]: only one option :)