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Rules: Japanese
K8J8P10H19B11F9
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White wins by Resignation
chincchapabo[1d]: Have a good game!
gojigs[2d]: onagaishimasu
gojigs[2d]: :)
gojigs[2d]: you always have black ... cool ^^
chincchapabo[1d]: onegaishima~su
gojigs[2d]: black lady :)
chincchapabo[1d]: yes! I vvas thinking the same haha
Move 73
S_Alexander[2d]: boom let's watch
Move 74
S_Alexander[2d]: this is Quarter Final
whynonameleft2006[9k]: can they see our messages?
Move 77
ozzyiscimen[13k]: yes of course they can see
JonathanLee0411[4k]: hi!
seequ[2k]: they can't
Move 78
JonathanLee0411[4k]: *is very used to the roblox / to chat function
ozzyiscimen[13k]: the stones on top are at stake for white
Ohnonononono[6k]: gg
Move 80
ozzyiscimen[12k]: f9 it looks good to me
whynonameleft2006[9k]: i think the three black stones at the top left can survive
hyrtsi[10k]: Very interesting fight
Move 82
ozzyiscimen[12k]: We can't say no we can't say yes because the black band I think 2 eyes can't
timuzhti[5d]: Few spectators today.
hyrtsi[10k]: 42 and counting :)
ozzyiscimen[12k]: p15 i think it's very good but why don't they play
timuzhti[5d]: Speaking of 42, I wonder why white didn't push E6 at move 42
Move 84
nomadic[5k]: what is this match, is it a part of a tournament?
hyrtsi[10k]: Without O14 the black group on the right would be dead for sure
hyrtsi[10k]: ozzyiscimen: keima is more powerful than making empty triangle and being heavier than the group already is
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Is e6 so important that I don't think it is because there are more important moves.
timuzhti[5d]: nomadic: EWGC is euro women's go championship
Move 86
nomadic[5k]: thx
ozzyiscimen[12k]: what does european women's championship have to do
seequ[2k]: hmm odd to see these players messing up fairly standard josekis
ozzyiscimen[12k]: why did you send
timuzhti[5d]: nomadic asked if this was a tournament game
Move 90
ozzyiscimen[12k]: the nomad does not look at the game that I haven't seen the article
Move 92
whynonameleft2006[9k]: Variation: would this work idk
ozzyiscimen[12k]: b7 is enough to kill stones in c and d
Move 93
seequ[2k]: Variation: no
Move 96
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 1
seequ[2k]: uhm
Move 97
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: for me no
emil.danielsen[15k]: Should black try to squeze white groups at l4 to gain influence in the center?
Move 100
emil.danielsen[15k]: Is it just me or is black being outplayed right now?
timuzhti[5d]: White is ahead, yes.
seequ[2k]: I think both are playing really weird :D
Move 102
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: ooh i missed the opening, but yay the match isnt over yet ^^
Move 107
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: this looks nice for white ^^
Move 108
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: I think these are good field taking tactics
S_Alexander[2d]: yeah, koba, so early
S_Alexander[2d]: who wants to play go in the morning
Move 109
ozzyiscimen[12k]: i want to play in the mornings
whynonameleft2006[9k]: Variation: would they play this
ben0[3d]: not with the variations you are posting, ozzyiscimen, no you dont
S_Alexander[2d]: Alexandra Urban won against Ariane Ougier
S_Alexander[2d]: so should be somewhat strong
kzl[1k]: is the stone at b12 is attempting to connect to c8? it doesn't seem that b15 can live
seequ[2k]: is alexandra black or white
ben0[3d]: b
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: Are you going to eat my white band
seequ[2k]: kzl: b12 is trying to force white to kill the stones off inefficiently
Move 110
Joly[2d]: c8 is a question : if white kill b15 withb13, black take the outside
ben0[3d]: time for a crosscut
seequ[2k]: crosscut does something?
ben0[3d]: Variation: 2
ben0[3d]: that's the plan
Move 111
ben0[3d]: if w resist and plays the ko, maybe you can live
whynonameleft2006[9k]: HABSBS
ben0[3d]: but it's far fetched
seequ[2k]: ah.. yes
Move 112
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: nice plan
seequ[2k]: ozzy.. what are you using to generate these variations? :D
Move 113
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: w killing cleanly those stones on d15 looks pretty nice ^^
ozzyiscimen[12k]: I did not understand what you said
Move 114
ben0[3d]: stop posting variations is what he meant
Move 115
kzl[1k]: how does black respond if white responds like this?
kzl[1k]: Variation: 3
ozzyiscimen[12k]: I press the button that says reservation and write
seequ[2k]: hrrmh and black is even forced to fill dame
seequ[2k]: feels bad
timuzhti[5d]: Variation: 4
ben0[3d]: Variation: like that, kzl
Move 116
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 5
S_Alexander[2d]: white is much better?
ben0[3d]: yup
S_Alexander[2d]: :/
Move 117
S_Alexander[2d]: and white didn't even think
Move 118
seequ[2k]: oh lol didn't even realize the time
ben0[3d]: w is ahead on the board and still has potential is the center
Move 119
ben0[3d]: in*
Move 124
seequ[2k]: heh white doesn't even take the bait
Move 131
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: now cut l7?
Move 133
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 6
ben0[3d]: slight chance
Move 135
Mbrez[?]: ah
Move 139
ozzyiscimen[12k]: I think it should be cut because if she saves 1 she can catch 4 stones
Move 140
KKkanbolat[10k]: Variation: 7
Move 144
seequ[2k]: guess the game is over now
S_Alexander[2d]: so sad
seequ[2k]: white *still* has some potential
Move 145
S_Alexander[2d]: don't miss the next game
seequ[2k]: when is it
S_Alexander[2d]: 11th Dec 14:00 (CET)
seequ[2k]: cool
S_Alexander[2d]: it's a strong pair
KekeGenkay[8k]: Can you tell me y it is over? Im a new
ozzyiscimen[12k]: the right field is not finished
ben0[3d]: Variation: 8
ben0[3d]: if b can survive this
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: i dont think its over yet
ben0[3d]: it's gg
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: oh
seequ[2k]: keke: black is behind on points and can't make more
KKkanbolat[10k]: Variation: 9
seequ[2k]: the entire top side was a disaster, black getting nothing but dame
KekeGenkay[8k]: Ok but he have the middle he can try
KekeGenkay[8k]: No?
Move 146
seequ[2k]: the middle is open on all sides
seequ[2k]: ..and that exists apparently
Joly[2d]: middle is white too :)
timuzhti[5d]: and even if he gets all of it it's like, 25 points?
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: Look, it didn't end like this
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: ozzy thats just random >___>
KekeGenkay[8k]: Yesahh so u saying that he behind on ppoints on all other parts so it is no use to try fight the left middle?
Joly[2d]: yes
Move 149
KKkanbolat[10k]: Variation: 10
Move 150
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: im sure there is something b could do here, since be is still playing ^^
Joly[2d]: and left is small because white can enter with f10
ozzyiscimen[12k]: what does that mean koba
seequ[2k]: I'm saying that the left middle will never be points anyhow :D
KekeGenkay[8k]: I think i see it now thanks
Move 152
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: seki..?
seequ[2k]: locally yes
ben0[3d]: j7 losing move
Move 154
ben0[3d]: if no j7, she could have thrown in
ben0[3d]: and kill
KKkanbolat[10k]: yes
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: Variation: ohh like this?
KKkanbolat[10k]: seki
ben0[3d]: yes koba
KekeGenkay[8k]: Now can see even more white controling the right there
nomadic[5k]: time to r
seequ[2k]: black still owes a move around H9 or it won't be seki for long
timuzhti[5d]: White could have pushed out at J6 though, if she wanted to play forcefully
seequ[2k]: feels bad
ben0[3d]: Variation: this would have been the right order
Move 157
KKkanbolat[10k]: Variation: 11
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: hmm b picking up some points on g9 area
Free Tibet[1k]: B has to make 20+ points in G9 area
KekeGenkay[8k]: That what i ment in start but i dont think it is enough for him like seequ said to me earlier
KekeGenkay[8k]: Meant**
seequ[2k]: how do you make points there when J9 just works
seequ[2k]: if B insists keeping the points, the seki breaks
timuzhti[5d]: It would be possible if white passed like, 8 times.
KekeGenkay[8k]: ^^^^
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: Variation: how does j9 work?
seequ[2k]: Variation: 12
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: and then k12 for b?
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 13
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: or simply j11
seequ[2k]: Variation: 14
seequ[2k]: pointus deletus
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 15
timuzhti[5d]: Well, if white does decide to paly like that black could get the 20 points.
timuzhti[5d]: *play
Move 158
seequ[2k]: but the entire area left is like 10?
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Variation: 16
timuzhti[5d]: but I'm interested in the reasoning behind those moves.
timuzhti[5d]: What is white doing in your head ozzy?
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: wow the difference of their clocks o.o
seequ[2k]: oh you meant ozzy's var ok :D
Move 163
ozzyiscimen[12k]: the purpose is to create space
Move 164
seequ[2k]: heh cute
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: s2 is neat end-game tesuji ^^
hypergeometric[4k]: yes !!
au-delà[6d]: that urts
Move 165
ozzyiscimen[12k]: of of of
ozzyiscimen[12k]: ugh
Move 166
KekeGenkay[8k]: I dont understand why black dont resign so?
Free Tibet[1k]: That's cruel
Move 167
KekeGenkay[8k]: Can he flip it?
Move 168
KekeGenkay[8k]: Not in a cruel way
KekeGenkay[8k]: I really want to learn
au-delà[6d]: w do it in sente
Move 170
ozzyiscimen[12k]: free Tibet, my name is free too
Move 171
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: these quater-final matches on this tournament format are really cruel :/
Celebrir[2d]: @KekeGenkay: It is really hard, but because this is an elemination game I guess it is fair to try as long as you see some sliver of hope
Free Tibet[1k]: I was wondering if I would get banned for such a nickname :)
Move 172
KekeGenkay[8k]: I am no better i probably did even get tthe chance to get in the tuornementcause i dont see
KekeGenkay[8k]: ^^
Rascataplan[3k]: well
Rascataplan[3k]: this is the European Women Championship
Rascataplan[3k]: not a random OGS tournament
Rascataplan[3k]: ;)
Move 173
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: winner of this is guaranteed at least 100 euros and 1/4 shot of the title, while the loser is out of prize money entirely :/
KekeGenkay[8k]: Ahh thanks celebrir i appreciate ur answer and sorry if my question seems cruel.. i didnt meant to
Move 176
KekeGenkay[8k]: Ahhh it is on money ok i would fight too gor sure ^^
KekeGenkay[8k]: Just kidding
Celebrir[2d]: Never shy away from asking a question (as long as you aren't trolling) ;)
Move 177
KekeGenkay[8k]: Thanks man
Move 178
au-delà[6d]: is that a ko in the corner?
cyphis11[?]: could be
Free Tibet[1k]: Isn't it impolite to keep playing in already lost game?
ozzyiscimen[12k]: celeb is your friend
cyphis11[?]: i wonder if the cut at j9 can help white
Move 179
ben0[3d]: no, Free Tibet
ozzyiscimen[12k]: is it
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: w isnt fully alive on top yet
ben0[3d]: it is now
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: so there is still hope for b
cyphis11[?]: t18 lives now?
emil.danielsen[15k]: why not just p19?
ben0[3d]: but she missed one possible sequence
ben0[3d]: Variation: 17
au-delà[6d]: if i where black here i would have played until the very last hope
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: ahh right, t18 makes an eye
Move 180
Free Tibet[1k]: P9 doesn't make an eye
Rascataplan[3k]: ooh nice sequence, ben0
Move 181
ben0[3d]: ah
ben0[3d]: she just died by ko
Move 182
ben0[3d]: haha
ben0[3d]: she played too fast
Move 183
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: t16 for a ko?
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: yay
Move 184
au-delà[6d]: so still hope! ^^
ozzyiscimen[12k]: why didn't she play black s16
cyphis11[?]: w seems ahead, yeah?
Move 185
ben0[3d]: whatttt
ben0[3d]: what is this
Free Tibet[1k]: Lol R11
au-delà[6d]: ??
KekeGenkay[8k]: All this in the top for black aim was to cut those two territories?
ben0[3d]: whaaaaaaat
nomadic[5k]: she found finally
Move 186
ben0[3d]: ........
au-delà[6d]: ho nooo
ben0[3d]: ok now it's resign time :(
S_Alexander[2d]: always resign
Move 187
ozzyiscimen[12k]: Look, this is good 2 damage to stone and field move
au-delà[6d]: she doesnt trust in the ko fight :(
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: b to kill the entire p9 group now ^^
cyphis11[?]: b exchanged 8 points for like 8 points in gote i guess?
cyphis11[?]: for 4*
Celebrir[2d]: P9 is connected to top?
Move 188
ozzyiscimen[12k]: What am I saying? why did this happen?
KekeGenkay[8k]: I think b plan that w will do alot of mis concentratimg mistakes
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: wedge p12 now?
dlpigozzi[4k]: w has an hour to think
Move 189
cyphis11[?]: p14 work?
Move 190
cyphis11[?]: for w?
timuzhti[5d]: I think N14
cyphis11[?]: n14 directly? then?
Move 192
timuzhti[5d]: Yeah, that might work.
ozzyiscimen[12k]: p13 is better
Move 193
cyphis11[?]: if b connects right side w can't cut..
Move 194
timuzhti[5d]: Not a peep out of you, ozzy, when you can cut.
cyphis11[?]: f9 is nice
cyphis11[?]: w on a roll now
KekeGenkay[8k]: Even if b connects he still the white stomes abov
fightyoats[4d]: gg
Rascataplan[3k]: wp
chincchapabo[1d]: Thank you for the game
gojigs[2d]: thank you for the game
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: gg!
emil.danielsen[15k]: Gg!
KekeGenkay[8k]: Gg it was fun to watch and learn from all of you thanks
💖 KoBa 💖[1d]: next match in 3 hours from now! schedules and more info on https://www.eurogofed.org/women/2020.html
ozzyiscimen[12k]: have a good rest
ozzyiscimen[12k]: congratulations
ozzyiscimen[12k]: you played very well
ozzyiscimen[12k]: ız
ozzyiscimen[12k]: ız
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