Game Finished

Move 277

Wulfenia.[5k]

75 points

💖 KoBa 💖[2k]

78.5 points

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

W+3.5

F11D8B8F18A17D19

Win %

Score

White wins by 3.5 points

Move 0

October 5, 2015

[20:10] Wulfenia[10k]: Have a good game.

Move 1

[20:11] KoBa[8k]: you too o/

Move 43

[20:19] Levvo[1k]: oh black wnts the kill :D

Move 46

[20:20] Levvo[1k]: White could connect.

Move 58

[20:27] Samraku[9k]: Go KoBa! (not that I have any ulterior motive) ;)

Move 62

[20:27] Levvo[1k]: HEHE

Move 63

[20:28] Samraku[9k]: You'd be scared of saxmaam too if you were 9 stones weaker than you are :)

Move 68

[20:29] Levvo[1k]: i'm scared of her already =)

Move 69

[20:29] NanashiHItori[18k]: I'm a little done . I will play "big bad wolf" Friday Seems pretty tough

[20:30] Samraku[9k]: oh no, the person 9 stones stronger than me thinks that the person a stone or two weaker than me is strengthening fast enough to challenge them? I am doomed!

Move 78

[20:31] Samraku[9k]: KoBa is so low everywhere. :/ I almost want to root for wulfenia even though it's not in my best interests :)

Move 85

[20:33] Samraku[9k]: So I count that white has 50 and black has 20 + whatever he can get with his influence.

Move 86

[20:33] Samraku[9k]: anyone concur?

Move 87

[20:33] Samraku[9k]: well, it's changing now

Move 88

[20:33] Samraku[9k]: but more or less?

Move 89

[20:34] Samraku[9k]: White actually has more points than I thought he did from glancing at the board

[20:34] Samraku[9k]: just shows how important actual counting is, I guess

[20:35] Samraku[9k]: Who was it that mentioned in Levvo chat that they thought we should commentate the games? Remember how I said we basically already have that if the spectators chat about it?

Move 90

[20:36] Samraku[9k]: c'mon, I can't be the only one with an opinion here :)

[20:37] Samraku[9k]: Nanashi? saxmaam? anything?

Move 92

[20:37] saxmaam[13k]: I'd rather be ....

[20:38] saxmaam[13k]: white, I think

[20:38] Samraku[9k]: same here

[20:38] Samraku[9k]: he has more points than I initially thought

Move 93

[20:38] Samraku[9k]: and you better not just be trusting that my counting is accurate :)

[20:38] saxmaam[13k]: no, I was just squinting at the board

Move 94

[20:39] Samraku[9k]: oh, ok

Move 107

[20:41] Samraku[9k]: Is KoBa trying to kill everything? I know when I pro does something like this it means they want aji, but we're not pros

Move 111

[20:42] saxmaam[13k]: I dunno

Move 112

[20:42] Samraku[9k]: eeyup

[20:42] saxmaam[13k]: seems a big gulf between me and 10 kyu

Move 113

[20:42] saxmaam[13k]: maybe she was trying to connect?

[20:42] KoBa[8k]: lol

[20:43] NanashiHItori[18k]: Black have a chance if he use the influence but seems white have an advance of around 10 15 point s

[20:43] Samraku[9k]: only 10 to 15, you think?

[20:43] saxmaam[13k]: oh wow

[20:43] NanashiHItori[18k]: if black wil use the influence

[20:43] Samraku[9k]: oh, right, black just killed a big group

[20:43] Samraku[9k]: forgot that

[20:44] Samraku[9k]: yeah, it's probably around 10 to 15 gap now

[20:44] saxmaam[13k]: just 'cuz there's a ladder breaker doesn't mean the ladder won't work

Move 114

[20:44] Samraku[9k]: eeyup

Move 118

[20:46] saxmaam[13k]: back to chores ...

Move 119

[20:46] Samraku[9k]: watching "Smile HD" while watching go makes you want to see the players massacring groups :)

Move 123

[20:47] NanashiHItori[18k]: :)

Move 133

[20:50] Samraku[9k]: My curiosity is winning over my laziness: I'm goign to count again :)

[20:50] saxmaam[13k]: good

Move 142

[20:52] Samraku[9k]: w 54 b 59 by my count

[20:53] Samraku[9k]: plus the influence of both players and the .5 komi for KoBa I didn't count

Move 145

[20:54] Samraku[9k]: white could probably come back with good endgame

[20:54] Samraku[9k]: right?

[20:54] saxmaam[13k]: guess the boss moves, Samraku. what's coming next?

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: n10 was my first instinct, but I think it's gote

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: no, actually sente

[20:55] saxmaam[13k]: what then?

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: no

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: gote

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: because the l6 group is in atari

[20:55] Samraku[9k]: does k8 work?

Move 148

[20:56] saxmaam[13k]: j14?

[20:56] Samraku[9k]: wk8 bl8 wk9 bl9 wh8 and white is squirming free while attacking j7?

Move 149

[20:56] Samraku[9k]: oh, black got it

Move 152

[20:58] Samraku[9k]: Is white lost here?

[20:58] Samraku[9k]: black can reduce the center from both sides

Move 153

[20:58] saxmaam[13k]: right

Move 154

[20:59] saxmaam[13k]: center is big but neither can have it?

Move 157

[21:00] saxmaam[13k]: my grasp of Go is so rudimentary ....

[21:00] saxmaam[13k]: that's why I want a commentator to tell me what is happening

Move 166

[21:03] saxmaam[13k]: Nanashi, what do you see?

Move 170

[21:04] NanashiHItori[18k]: white losing W could make a group in the center tied with the stone on the left

Move 172

[21:04] NanashiHItori[18k]: I think thats he is tring now

Move 173

[21:05] NanashiHItori[18k]: but i would have tried earlier

Move 187

[21:09] NanashiHItori[18k]: white or black lost the count

[21:09] saxmaam[13k]: what do you mean?

Move 189

[21:09] NanashiHItori[18k]: who s winnin?

Move 190

[21:10] saxmaam[13k]: Samraku: ?

Move 198

[21:11] KoBa[8k]: Review: ##81199

Move 199

[21:11] KoBa[8k]: ops

Move 205

[21:12] Samraku[9k]: w 74 b 70

[21:12] Samraku[9k]: by my count

Move 206

[21:13] Samraku[9k]: that count spanned many moves, though

Move 207

[21:13] Samraku[9k]: that's big for black

Move 210

[21:14] Samraku[9k]: oh

Move 211

[21:14] Samraku[9k]: that was nice

[21:14] Samraku[9k]: I didn't see that

Move 212

[21:14] Samraku[9k]: ko, huh?

Move 216

[21:15] Samraku[9k]: how big is filling p13? I can't count ko

Move 218

[21:16] saxmaam[13k]: doens't seem like an important ko

Move 222

[21:16] saxmaam[13k]: maybe I'm missing something, but it's a fight over dame points, isn't it?

[21:16] Samraku[9k]: I guess not, but p12 will die if black wins it

Move 223

[21:17] Samraku[9k]: it's non-zero

Move 225

[21:17] Samraku[9k]: and p12 might be sente, idk

Move 226

[21:17] Samraku[9k]: I mean, p13

Move 227

[21:17] Samraku[9k]: for white to play

[21:17] Samraku[9k]: ohhhh

[21:17] saxmaam[13k]: I'm not comprehending.

Move 228

[21:18] Samraku[9k]: white is alright with the ko because if black starts the ko white takes first and black has more to lose

Move 229

[21:18] Samraku[9k]: I think

[21:18] Samraku[9k]: still, that doesn't explain why white is wasteing ko threats

Move 230

[21:18] Samraku[9k]: not that I don't do the same thing :)

Move 233

[21:18] Samraku[9k]: The jumpey monk!

[21:18] saxmaam[13k]: but why would black start a ko there?

Move 237

[21:19] Samraku[9k]: to capture p12, but it would be a bad ko for him

[21:19] Samraku[9k]: which is why I'm theorizing white is alright leaving it for no

[21:19] Samraku[9k]: now^

Move 238

[21:19] saxmaam[13k]: so much to learn

Move 240

[21:19] Samraku[9k]: ehh, I'm barely sure of all this

Move 245

[21:20] Samraku[9k]: I think white will win, any opposing opinions?

[21:20] Samraku[9k]: I haven't counted since my last count, though

Move 249

[21:21] Samraku[9k]: Is KoBa trying to make a political statement about how evil kos are by using up all his ko threats?

Move 250

[21:21] Samraku[9k]: I could get behind that :)

Move 255

[21:22] LostStone[19k]: W's H6 group is in danger

Move 257

[21:22] Samraku[9k]: no

Move 258

[21:23] Samraku[9k]: Variation: d1

Move 264

[21:23] LostStone[19k]: sorry i saw a fictional snapback :)

Move 268

[21:25] Samraku[9k]: score estimator is a bit wonky; thinks that the lower left is dead

[21:25] NanashiHItori[18k]: why i feel black is winning

Move 274

[21:26] Samraku[9k]: now it's better, though it still can't quite commit to the lower left being alive

Move 275

[21:27] Samraku[9k]: w by 2.5 according to se

Move 277

[21:27] LostStone[19k]: we shall see..

[21:27] Samraku[9k]: good game well played

[21:27] Wulfenia[10k]: Thanks for the game.

[21:27] KoBa[8k]: phew

[21:27] LostStone[19k]: Great game

[21:27] KoBa[8k]: that was close

[21:28] Samraku[9k]: I've gtg, but good game cya all

[21:28] KoBa[8k]: thank you too

[21:28] saxmaam[13k]: great game

[21:28] saxmaam[13k]: kept me from my responsibilities

[21:28] LostStone[19k]: pounds Koba on the back

[21:28] KoBa[8k]: oh man we had some comments

[21:28] KoBa[8k]: i made so many huge readins mistakes here

[21:29] LostStone[19k]: One less than wolfenia I guess :)

[21:32] KoBa[8k]: Samraku: hahah

[21:32] KoBa[8k]: ko threats make nice timesuji ^^

[21:33] KoBa[8k]: sorry Wulfenia for not reviewing (again), but i need some rest :3

[21:33] KoBa[8k]: thank you again, see ya