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Rules: Japanese
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Black wins by 5.5 points
death_taxes[1d]: anton chrnykh
Move 36
death_taxes[1d]: chernykh os something like that
Move 37
Qinglong[1d]: Anton Chernykh
PanKure[6k]: see Pairings / Results section: https://www.eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
Move 38
Kanin[7d]: Thanks
Move 49
Move 61
ben0[4d]: q10 really was a weird move
Whirly[1d]: it was sort of shapy
fatihgo[?]: wow big match
death_taxes[1d]: hey ben you improved from 2k, kudos
Move 63
ben0[4d]: thank you
ben0[4d]: 2d will be hard but getting there
Whirly[1d]: why ali versus andrii didn't start?
fatihgo[?]: white has to defend N11 group
ben0[4d]: Im guessing Ali is late :D
fatihgo[?]: ponnuki is too big for attacking
Whirly[1d]: oh ali logged in now
death_taxes[1d]: perhaps one day you can also participate in such tournament, but 1d is just too low
death_taxes[1d]: :p
Move 67
ben0[4d]: doing my best
Whirly[1d]: no maybe he didn't
B2 Bomber[1d]: B prepers an attack against Q12?
S_Alexander[2d]: how much black is leading?
ben0[4d]: hard to estimate, if w grabs all the cash on the left, then b will need a decent attack on the center group
ben0[4d]: but the potential is huge
fatihgo[?]: seems even to me
fatihgo[?]: but white really nedds to defend the center group
ben0[4d]: ali andrii started
Whirly[1d]: ali is starting now
Badukness05[3k]: can you put the link
Badukness05[3k]: ty
Move 68
fatihgo[?]: cut or attack?
kr0pt[?]: hi
Badukness05[3k]: its very hard 0_0
Move 69
xiaodaiboy[1k]: Variation: This move feels bad. so deep in black's territory.
fatihgo[?]: feels bad but fun to watch
fatihgo[?]: so white has to empty triangle there
Move 70
Badukness05[3k]: nice fatihgo
fatihgo[?]: i think that exchange means that black doesnt want to cut at d10
fatihgo[?]: instead somewhere around n9
kr0pt[?]: q2
Badukness05[3k]: m11
death_taxes[1d]: ilya uncharacteristically behind time
death_taxes[1d]: *on time
fatihgo[?]: in corona cup ilya almost lost the game
fatihgo[?]: this time he is careful
isibboi[5k]: It would be rather embarrassing if he would loose this game against a non-pro
Move 73
fatihgo[?]: i think it is 50-50
Move 76
Badukness05[3k]: b got good
Move 77
ben0[4d]: it wouldnt be embarassing
death_taxes[1d]: i think anton is his student?
ben0[4d]: the difference of level is not that huge that a loss is unthinkable
fatihgo[?]: it is still even, i just didnt understand B15 C16exchange
death_taxes[1d]: maybe i'm wrong
HappyLook[8d]: Anton won against Ilya few times already. In offline tournaments. Don't underestimate him
fatihgo[?]: anton is young which means he can beat a pro or lost to a 4 dan
Move 78
isibboi[5k]: Olay wow, did not think they were so close skill-wise
CarloTibaldi[1d]: ben0, aren't you playing today?
Badukness05[3k]: everyone leave gokgs?
HappyLook[8d]: Anton weak side is mentality. I'm strongly agreed with fatihgo comment above
Move 79
Gornador[?]: One more liberty for B14...
Move 82
ben0[4d]: I played on saturday
ben0[4d]: my next game will be in a few days
Badukness05[3k]: ben0 , ur 6d kgs no?
Move 83
ben0[4d]: 8d kgs
Badukness05[3k]: oh
Move 86
ben0[4d]: but that doesnt mean anything
Move 87
Badukness05[3k]: ogs ranks are weird
Move 94
Badukness05[3k]: w will play p3 in goteish?
Move 96
resignator[3d]: just means ben here doesn't play enough ogs games
Kanin[7d]: Nah, it means I can give ben0 4 stones
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: who plays on OGS ?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: everyone are on fox/tygem
Evilest0din[3k]: i play mostly fox/kgs
resignator[3d]: idk i view ogs as my home server because i started on here
Move 97
resignator[3d]: so i'd like to play more games here if possible but finding a game is too difficult
Evilest0din[3k]: I mostly use OGS for correspondence and joseki
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: my heart server will always be kgs
Badukness05[3k]: but kgs is dead?
Evilest0din[3k]: not really, KGS is fine
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: just invaded by bots
Evilest0din[3k]: sometimes it might have a population issue but nowhere near as bad of OGS
Move 98
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: but there are still some humans playing and the rooms are still full of go nerds
Here We Go[1d]: this isn't the place for this chat
Evilest0din[3k]: to my knowledge the bot issue was fixed
TomiP[2d]: even being as weak as I am, getting games on OGS/KGS is sometimes hard
resignator[3d]: i hate tygem
resignator[3d]: kgs and fox are alright
death_taxes[1d]: ogs is nice but for dan players it's useless
Badukness05[3k]: kgs is bad because of admins
Kanin[7d]: very useful for teaching
Aobozu[3k]: whats wrong with kgs admins ?
Move 99
Evilest0din[3k]: its difficult for me to play on tygem because i am lower ranked than i should be which means when i do play my record is sandbagger looking, making it hard to get a game
Move 101
death_taxes[1d]: yes, ogs is nice for teaching, but so is kgs
ben0[4d]: kgs is good because of admins
ben0[4d]: everyting else is $*!%
Evilest0din[3k]: KGS is better IMHO because the chat is above the variation chart, meaning i can actually see what questions are being asked if not in voice chat
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: kgs is ideal for teaching yes
Move 103
S_Alexander[2d]: ogs has neat features, fox is population, kgs for legacy
Move 108
Evilest0din[3k]: what about panda and tygem
Russian[5d]: Variation: wow
Badukness05[3k]: lol
xiaodaiboy[1k]: Lol
ramza_beoulve[2d]: nice variation
kusrabs[5k]: <error>, finally, ))) Happy New Cat-Dragon Year.
Russian[5d]: Happy New Year! )
Badukness05[3k]: 10k ogs is 1d kgs
Badukness05[3k]: xD
Here We Go[1d]: lol
Evilest0din[3k]: it is sad but also very close to true
Move 109
Badukness05[3k]: shusaku move
Evilest0din[3k]: tho i feel it is less of a critique of KGS and more of a critique of OGS
Move 110
resignator[3d]: 'kgs is ideal for teaching' hahaha nice joke
Move 111
Badukness05[3k]: i like the windows 95 interface of gokgs
resignator[3d]: with the variation tree in that tiny scrollbox
Move 114
B2 Bomber[1d]: fox and ogs dont have paid AI assistance for live games so I prefer tygem and go wars
Move 115
B2 Bomber[1d]: ogs little bit better because having the analysis board for ongoing games
Move 117
Badukness05[3k]: some players cheat using that i think
resignator[3d]: bro
B2 Bomber[1d]: some player really need all the extra help
resignator[3d]: you're a computer programmer
Move 119
resignator[3d]: download a free ai
resignator[3d]: you should know how
resignator[3d]: if you really want to cheat
resignator[3d]: tygem really wants that money huh
Move 121
Evilest0din[3k]: they have two automatch systems one paid, one free
Move 122
resignator[3d]: yah saw that
Move 123
torbg[2k]: is there video feed for this game somewhere
torbg[2k]: sorry, found it :)
Move 125
OGA937[3k]: W is much much better
OGA937[3k]: I thought w would play k6
Move 123
cyphis11[2k]: that center doh
Move 125
OGA937[3k]: Now w to connect forcing b to connect
B2 Bomber[1d]: Ilya soon in 20s fischer
Move 126
GeoFeo[10k]: h\
ano1910[3k]: р
OGA937[3k]: Rip
OGA937[3k]: To b group
fatihgo[?]: s10 and black is better
cyphis11[2k]: s9
cyphis11[2k]: r10 actually
Move 133
cyphis11[2k]: if this q12 group was mine, it would certainly die
OGA937[3k]: If u play against pro for sure :D
Move 134
cyphis11[2k]: in an even game i'd call it a 40:60
cyphis11[2k]: though this is certainly where i would have started as w
cyphis11[2k]: just this black is super thick in the center. nothing to attack
Move 143
Qinglong[1d]: all in
cyphis11[2k]: this is not right
Move 145
cyphis11[2k]: Variation: isn't this what b wants?
qayqay[2d]: even if w captures the to
Move 146
qayqay[2d]: two stone is not an eye
resignator[3d]: Jenna says white winrate 83%
cyphis11[2k]: w can't capture the two in my variation and still has a hard time to escape
xiaodaiboy[1k]: Who's jenna?
cyphis11[2k]: k9 cut
resignator[3d]: Jenna Tolls
Move 148
cyphis11[2k]: this cut is too severe
Move 149
cyphis11[2k]: n6
Move 153
cyphis11[2k]: Variation: 1
Move 159
Here We Go[1d]: :D
cyphis11[2k]: i didn't mean to send that lol
Move 162
cyphis11[2k]: Variation: there
Move 169
cyphis11[2k]: b011 kills?
Move 173
cyphis11[2k]: whoa
Move 174
resignator[3d]: wym woah
B2 Bomber[1d]: did B really need a kill
Qinglong[1d]: ko
resignator[3d]: this is what you call a free ko for black
Move 175
B2 Bomber[1d]: but J6 looks risky?
Move 179
cyphis11[2k]: Variation: 2
cyphis11[2k]: thought i saw a squeeze
cyphis11[2k]: was wrong haha
Move 181
B2 Bomber[1d]: gg I guess
Move 188
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: so who is ahead now ?
Move 189
ben0[4d]: I count close
Move 190
ben0[4d]: but I didnt count anything for b in the h13 area so dunno
Move 191
1000milejourney[18k]: Can anyone tell who's ahead at this point? And maybe explain it to me a little bit please
Move 192
1000milejourney[18k]: I'm a little lost in this game
Move 194
Badukness05[3k]: everyone is
Move 200
Here We Go[1d]: oo
Move 201
Badukness05[3k]: ko?
Move 203
B2 Bomber[1d]: timesuji
Move 205
Badukness05[3k]: aah
Move 218
ben0[4d]: a small lead by b I would say
Move 219
ben0[4d]: but I counted fast
Move 228
ben0[4d]: ah
Move 229
ben0[4d]: I forgot the captured stones
ben0[4d]: hmmmmm
Move 234
ben0[4d]: cute
Move 235
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: t6 tho
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: its fine right?
Badukness05[3k]: yose yes
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: he gets t6 in sente
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: and b plays in his own territory
Move 237
Badukness05[3k]: with s10 first instead of s11 that wouldnt be possible?
Move 259
resignator[3d]: how do you even begin counting a game with really jagged territory besides tallying every point
Move 263
joachim[4d]: You count every point, just do it quickly.
S_Alexander[2d]: gg ez
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: why is SE so $*!%
Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: it said w by 14
Here We Go[1d]: nice one, gg
resignator[3d]: counting every point seems so painful
B2 Bomber[1d]: GG
szczepeq[8k]: Wasn't A12 seki after A14?
Badukness05[3k]: review by AI :D
joachim[4d]: W A16 after A14.
szczepeq[8k]: OK, nevermind :P
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