Move 263
98 points
Unranked
Rules: Japanese
III
Processing
Black wins by 5.5 points
Move 35
January 11, 2021
[9:42] Kanin[7d]: Who is AshesOfDreams?
[9:42] death_taxes[1d]: anton chrnykh
Move 36
[9:43] death_taxes[1d]: chernykh os something like that
Move 37
[9:44] Qinglong[1d]: Anton Chernykh
[9:44] PanKure[6k]: see Pairings / Results section: https://www.eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
Move 38
[9:44] Kanin[7d]: Thanks
Move 61
[10:19] ben0[4d]: q10 really was a weird move
[10:20] Whirly[1d]: it was sort of shapy
[10:21] fatihgo[?]: wow big match
[10:21] death_taxes[1d]: hey ben you improved from 2k, kudos
Move 63
[10:21] ben0[4d]: thank you
[10:21] ben0[4d]: 2d will be hard but getting there
[10:21] Whirly[1d]: why ali versus andrii didn't start?
[10:21] fatihgo[?]: white has to defend N11 group
[10:21] ben0[4d]: Im guessing Ali is late :D
[10:22] fatihgo[?]: ponnuki is too big for attacking
[10:22] Whirly[1d]: oh ali logged in now
[10:22] death_taxes[1d]: perhaps one day you can also participate in such tournament, but 1d is just too low
[10:22] death_taxes[1d]: :p
Move 67
[10:22] ben0[4d]: doing my best
[10:22] Whirly[1d]: no maybe he didn't
[10:22] B2 Bomber[1d]: B prepers an attack against Q12?
[10:22] S_Alexander[2d]: how much black is leading?
[10:24] ben0[4d]: hard to estimate, if w grabs all the cash on the left, then b will need a decent attack on the center group
[10:24] ben0[4d]: but the potential is huge
[10:24] fatihgo[?]: seems even to me
[10:24] fatihgo[?]: but white really nedds to defend the center group
[10:24] ben0[4d]: ali andrii started
[10:24] Whirly[1d]: ali is starting now
[10:24] Badukness05[3k]: can you put the link
[10:25] Badukness05[3k]: ty
Move 68
[10:26] fatihgo[?]: cut or attack?
[10:27] kr0pt[?]: hi
[10:27] Badukness05[3k]: its very hard 0_0
Move 69
[10:28] xiaodaiboy[1k]: Variation: This move feels bad. so deep in black's territory.
[10:28] fatihgo[?]: feels bad but fun to watch
[10:28] fatihgo[?]: so white has to empty triangle there
Move 70
[10:29] Badukness05[3k]: nice fatihgo
[10:29] fatihgo[?]: i think that exchange means that black doesnt want to cut at d10
[10:30] fatihgo[?]: instead somewhere around n9
[10:30] kr0pt[?]: q2
[10:30] Badukness05[3k]: m11
[10:34] death_taxes[1d]: ilya uncharacteristically behind time
[10:34] death_taxes[1d]: *on time
[10:34] fatihgo[?]: in corona cup ilya almost lost the game
[10:34] fatihgo[?]: this time he is careful
[10:34] isibboi[5k]: It would be rather embarrassing if he would loose this game against a non-pro
Move 73
[10:35] fatihgo[?]: i think it is 50-50
Move 76
[10:35] Badukness05[3k]: b got good
Move 77
[10:35] ben0[4d]: it wouldnt be embarassing
[10:35] death_taxes[1d]: i think anton is his student?
[10:35] ben0[4d]: the difference of level is not that huge that a loss is unthinkable
[10:35] fatihgo[?]: it is still even, i just didnt understand B15 C16exchange
[10:35] death_taxes[1d]: maybe i'm wrong
[10:36] HappyLook[8d]: Anton won against Ilya few times already. In offline tournaments. Don't underestimate him
[10:36] fatihgo[?]: anton is young which means he can beat a pro or lost to a 4 dan
Move 78
[10:36] isibboi[5k]: Olay wow, did not think they were so close skill-wise
[10:36] CarloTibaldi[1d]: ben0, aren't you playing today?
[10:37] Badukness05[3k]: everyone leave gokgs?
[10:37] HappyLook[8d]: Anton weak side is mentality. I'm strongly agreed with fatihgo comment above
Move 79
[10:38] Gornador[?]: One more liberty for B14...
Move 82
[10:41] ben0[4d]: I played on saturday
[10:41] ben0[4d]: my next game will be in a few days
[10:41] Badukness05[3k]: ben0 , ur 6d kgs no?
Move 83
[10:41] ben0[4d]: 8d kgs
[10:41] Badukness05[3k]: oh
Move 86
[10:41] ben0[4d]: but that doesnt mean anything
Move 87
[10:41] Badukness05[3k]: ogs ranks are weird
Move 94
[10:49] Badukness05[3k]: w will play p3 in goteish?
Move 96
[10:52] resignator[3d]: just means ben here doesn't play enough ogs games
[10:53] Kanin[7d]: Nah, it means I can give ben0 4 stones
[10:54] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: who plays on OGS ?
[10:54] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: everyone are on fox/tygem
[10:54] Evilest0din[3k]: i play mostly fox/kgs
[10:54] resignator[3d]: idk i view ogs as my home server because i started on here
Move 97
[10:54] resignator[3d]: so i'd like to play more games here if possible but finding a game is too difficult
[10:54] Evilest0din[3k]: I mostly use OGS for correspondence and joseki
[10:55] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: my heart server will always be kgs
[10:55] Badukness05[3k]: but kgs is dead?
[10:55] Evilest0din[3k]: not really, KGS is fine
[10:56] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: just invaded by bots
[10:56] Evilest0din[3k]: sometimes it might have a population issue but nowhere near as bad of OGS
Move 98
[10:56] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: but there are still some humans playing and the rooms are still full of go nerds
[10:56] Here We Go[1d]: this isn't the place for this chat
[10:56] Evilest0din[3k]: to my knowledge the bot issue was fixed
[10:56] TomiP[2d]: even being as weak as I am, getting games on OGS/KGS is sometimes hard
[10:56] resignator[3d]: i hate tygem
[10:57] resignator[3d]: kgs and fox are alright
[10:57] death_taxes[1d]: ogs is nice but for dan players it's useless
[10:58] Badukness05[3k]: kgs is bad because of admins
[10:58] Kanin[7d]: very useful for teaching
[10:58] Aobozu[3k]: whats wrong with kgs admins ?
Move 99
[10:58] Evilest0din[3k]: its difficult for me to play on tygem because i am lower ranked than i should be which means when i do play my record is sandbagger looking, making it hard to get a game
Move 101
[10:59] death_taxes[1d]: yes, ogs is nice for teaching, but so is kgs
[11:00] ben0[4d]: kgs is good because of admins
[11:00] ben0[4d]: everyting else is $*!%
[11:00] Evilest0din[3k]: KGS is better IMHO because the chat is above the variation chart, meaning i can actually see what questions are being asked if not in voice chat
[11:00] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: kgs is ideal for teaching yes
Move 103
[11:00] S_Alexander[2d]: ogs has neat features, fox is population, kgs for legacy
Move 108
[11:01] Evilest0din[3k]: what about panda and tygem
[11:01] Russian[5d]: Variation: wow
[11:01] Badukness05[3k]: lol
[11:02] xiaodaiboy[1k]: Lol
[11:02] ramza_beoulve[2d]: nice variation
[11:02] kusrabs[5k]: <error>, finally, ))) Happy New Cat-Dragon Year.
[11:02] Russian[5d]: Happy New Year! )
[11:05] Badukness05[3k]: 10k ogs is 1d kgs
[11:05] Badukness05[3k]: xD
[11:05] Here We Go[1d]: lol
[11:05] Evilest0din[3k]: it is sad but also very close to true
Move 109
[11:06] Badukness05[3k]: shusaku move
[11:06] Evilest0din[3k]: tho i feel it is less of a critique of KGS and more of a critique of OGS
Move 110
[11:07] resignator[3d]: 'kgs is ideal for teaching' hahaha nice joke
Move 111
[11:08] Badukness05[3k]: i like the windows 95 interface of gokgs
[11:08] resignator[3d]: with the variation tree in that tiny scrollbox
Move 114
[11:09] B2 Bomber[1d]: fox and ogs dont have paid AI assistance for live games so I prefer tygem and go wars
Move 115
[11:10] B2 Bomber[1d]: ogs little bit better because having the analysis board for ongoing games
Move 117
[11:10] Badukness05[3k]: some players cheat using that i think
[11:10] resignator[3d]: bro
[11:10] B2 Bomber[1d]: some player really need all the extra help
[11:10] resignator[3d]: you're a computer programmer
Move 119
[11:10] resignator[3d]: download a free ai
[11:11] resignator[3d]: you should know how
[11:11] resignator[3d]: if you really want to cheat
[11:11] resignator[3d]: tygem really wants that money huh
Move 121
[11:12] Evilest0din[3k]: they have two automatch systems one paid, one free
Move 122
[11:13] resignator[3d]: yah saw that
Move 123
[11:15] torbg[2k]: is there video feed for this game somewhere
[11:16] torbg[2k]: sorry, found it :)
Move 125
[11:16] OGA937[3k]: W is much much better
[11:17] OGA937[3k]: I thought w would play k6
Move 123
[11:17] cyphis11[2k]: that center doh
Move 125
[11:19] OGA937[3k]: Now w to connect forcing b to connect
[11:20] B2 Bomber[1d]: Ilya soon in 20s fischer
Move 126
[11:21] GeoFeo[10k]: h\
[11:21] ano1910[3k]: р
[11:21] OGA937[3k]: Rip
[11:21] OGA937[3k]: To b group
[11:21] fatihgo[?]: s10 and black is better
[11:21] cyphis11[2k]: s9
[11:22] cyphis11[2k]: r10 actually
Move 133
[11:25] cyphis11[2k]: if this q12 group was mine, it would certainly die
[11:26] OGA937[3k]: If u play against pro for sure :D
Move 134
[11:26] cyphis11[2k]: in an even game i'd call it a 40:60
[11:27] cyphis11[2k]: though this is certainly where i would have started as w
[11:27] cyphis11[2k]: just this black is super thick in the center. nothing to attack
Move 143
[11:30] Qinglong[1d]: all in
[11:31] cyphis11[2k]: this is not right
Move 145
[11:31] cyphis11[2k]: Variation: isn't this what b wants?
[11:31] qayqay[2d]: even if w captures the to
Move 146
[11:32] qayqay[2d]: two stone is not an eye
[11:32] resignator[3d]: Jenna says white winrate 83%
[11:32] cyphis11[2k]: w can't capture the two in my variation and still has a hard time to escape
[11:32] xiaodaiboy[1k]: Who's jenna?
[11:32] cyphis11[2k]: k9 cut
[11:32] resignator[3d]: Jenna Tolls
Move 148
[11:33] cyphis11[2k]: this cut is too severe
Move 149
[11:33] cyphis11[2k]: n6
Move 153
[11:35] cyphis11[2k]: Variation: 1
Move 159
[11:36] Here We Go[1d]: :D
[11:36] cyphis11[2k]: i didn't mean to send that lol
Move 162
[11:37] cyphis11[2k]: Variation: there
Move 169
[11:40] cyphis11[2k]: b011 kills?
Move 173
[11:41] cyphis11[2k]: whoa
Move 174
[11:41] resignator[3d]: wym woah
[11:41] B2 Bomber[1d]: did B really need a kill
[11:41] Qinglong[1d]: ko
[11:42] resignator[3d]: this is what you call a free ko for black
Move 175
[11:42] B2 Bomber[1d]: but J6 looks risky?
Move 179
[11:43] cyphis11[2k]: Variation: 2
[11:43] cyphis11[2k]: thought i saw a squeeze
[11:43] cyphis11[2k]: was wrong haha
Move 181
[11:44] B2 Bomber[1d]: gg I guess
Move 188
[11:46] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: so who is ahead now ?
[11:47] resignator[3d]: ?
Move 189
[11:47] ben0[4d]: I count close
Move 190
[11:48] ben0[4d]: but I didnt count anything for b in the h13 area so dunno
Move 191
[11:48] 1000milejourney[18k]: Can anyone tell who's ahead at this point? And maybe explain it to me a little bit please
Move 192
[11:48] 1000milejourney[18k]: I'm a little lost in this game
Move 194
[11:49] Badukness05[3k]: everyone is
Move 200
[11:51] Here We Go[1d]: oo
Move 201
[11:51] Badukness05[3k]: ko?
Move 203
[11:51] B2 Bomber[1d]: timesuji
Move 205
[11:51] Badukness05[3k]: aah
Move 218
[11:54] ben0[4d]: a small lead by b I would say
Move 219
[11:54] ben0[4d]: but I counted fast
Move 228
[11:56] ben0[4d]: ah
Move 229
[11:56] ben0[4d]: I forgot the captured stones
[11:56] ben0[4d]: hmmmmm
Move 234
[11:58] ben0[4d]: cute
Move 235
[11:58] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: t6 tho
[11:58] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: its fine right?
[11:58] Badukness05[3k]: yose yes
[11:58] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: he gets t6 in sente
[11:59] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: and b plays in his own territory
Move 237
[11:59] Badukness05[3k]: with s10 first instead of s11 that wouldnt be possible?
Move 259
[12:03] resignator[3d]: how do you even begin counting a game with really jagged territory besides tallying every point
Move 263
[12:03] joachim[4d]: You count every point, just do it quickly.
[12:03] S_Alexander[2d]: gg ez
[12:04] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: why is SE so $*!%
[12:04] Chad Thunderredacted[1k]: it said w by 14
[12:04] Here We Go[1d]: nice one, gg
[12:04] resignator[3d]: counting every point seems so painful
[12:04] B2 Bomber[1d]: GG
[12:04] szczepeq[8k]: Wasn't A12 seki after A14?
[12:04] Badukness05[3k]: review by AI :D
[12:05] joachim[4d]: W A16 after A14.
[12:05] szczepeq[8k]: OK, nevermind :P

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