Unranked
Rules: Japanese
Black wins by Resignation
Move 26
FremchGuy[5k]: is there a twitch review?
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Looks better for B
Move 27
xxchemotoxx[?]: i think Ben will do twitch today, but maybe for the later games
FremchGuy[5k]: oh cool
hypergeometric[4k]: what is the best attack W can do against the lower left black group ?
hypergeometric[4k]: I'm curious
hypergeometric[4k]: does G3 works for example ? is it better to pressure in G4 ?
hypergeometric[4k]: or something else ?
Move 28
Mardipaev[4d]: slow
Move 30
Zaphodian[?]: The schedule for today's games can be found here: https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
Move 32
Zaphodian[?]: G3 vs G4, G4 is certainly wrong. If you want to press, F4 would be preferable.
hypergeometric[4k]: thanks ! would you press or G3 ?
Zaphodian[?]: C16 should be at C10 I think. But W's plan is C16 D15 C10
Zaphodian[?]: when? instead of O5?
Move 34
hypergeometric[4k]: yes
hypergeometric[4k]: instead of O5
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Pressing is possible
Move 36
hypergeometric[4k]: I felt it was a good time to attack it before it was stronger
Move 44
ronin3[1k]: c8 was a fine move
Move 45
Move 54
Mardipaev[4d]: I would have prefered B7 over A3
Puumanamana[3d]: why did black connect at d3 earlier instead of C2?
Zaphodian[?]: This looks like a successful invasion by W
Move 65
hypergeometric[4k]: white has no eyes no
Move 66
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Better for B
Move 67
Zaphodian[?]: R2 was greedy, I think
Move 70
nidza[?]: i would play n7 at o8
Move 71
tritis[6k]: hello
Move 75
kantanat100[6k]: Hi
LVL79[4k]: Kung fu
kantanat100[6k]: Nooby
hypergeometric[4k]: W doesn't have ko threats no ?
Zaphodian[?]: ??? R9 at P9 was better
kantanat100[6k]: T12
kantanat100[6k]: Variation: 1
Move 77
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W gets a few points and B gets overwhelming influence
Zaphodian[?]: Looks like a horrible for W now. As if you take the wings of a fly in flight.
Zaphodian[?]: (oops * horrible crash*)
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: super horrible - so W needs to play a ko threat
ben0[4d]: hello people, Ill start a commentary of this game in about 10min, https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0 and I'll try to do all games today
Move 80
Zaphodian[?]: OK, you will be very busy
xxchemotoxx[?]: wow :D
hypergeometric[4k]: looks painful for white
Move 82
ben0[4d]: fun fact, in that situation, ponnuki arent worth 30 pts each
Move 83
FremchGuy[5k]: 😂😂
hypergeometric[4k]: sad
Move 84
Zaphodian[?]: Really? 30 x 6 = 180!
Fredda91[7d]: nice invasion
Fredda91[7d]: b is overconcentrated
Fredda91[7d]: w must be ahead
Zaphodian[?]: nope
ben0[4d]: let's face it fredda, in a kgs blitz, black would still die on the right
Move 85
Zaphodian[?]: But M6 was questionable
Move 88
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B is fine
Move 90
wxh100[15k]: M5 is goos
wxh100[15k]: good
Move 91
wxh100[15k]: M5 Probably
Zaphodian[?]: B might be thinking of L2 though
Zaphodian[?]: oops, and he does it
Zaphodian[?]: L5 now
wxh100[15k]: It's another way
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
Fredda91[7d]: pls keep going
Fredda91[7d]: what can white do next_
wxh100[15k]: The first and fourth versions can have White capture four stones
wxh100[15k]: Alright
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: A good point
wxh100[15k]: Or somewhere around it
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: They are reading this variation
wxh100[15k]: Pretty good; The stones are probably dead now...
wxh100[15k]: If they're alive, the strong influence makes up for it times a million
wxh100[15k]: And the J3 stone is weak
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
hypergeometric[4k]: I don't think I would tenuki as white ....
wxh100[15k]: okay
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
wxh100[15k]: And a continuation
tekken8[2d]: Variation: If white cuts
wxh100[15k]: Black Connects.
wxh100[15k]: Continuation:
wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
Zaphodian[?]: You had better look at my variation - I am about 6-7 dan.
wxh100[15k]: Yours is a question mark
tekken8[2d]: pro?
wxh100[15k]: Plus the leaderboard sayare between 4k and 5ks you
wxh100[15k]: Press the chat icon
Zaphodian[?]: I am 3 times European Champ.
Martin_L[?]: _D
wxh100[15k]: Oh wow
Move 92
You in mid air[6d]: the quality of this game is way too low. even black wasted 16 moves on the right side to get what? so inefficient...
Leptir[1d]: Zaphodian - senseis: RobVanZeijst
Leptir[1d]: he is :)
Zaphodian[?]: And was 3/4 place for the pro qual 2-3 years back
tekken8[2d]: thats cool
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation
Zaphodian[?]: So W was unable to read out my variation.
tekken8[2d]: why not B K2 instead of N2?
hypergeometric[4k]: maybe to also be alive in case the left lower group get disconnected ?
wxh100[15k]: Yeah, the positionis pretty low
ben0[4d]: review of this game started at : https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0
Qinglong[1d]: cheers
Move 93
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Forcing move
redreoicy[5d]: I count 180 points for black on the right side alone
redreoicy[5d]: 6 * 30 for the ponnukis
wxh100[15k]: A ponnuki isn't exactly 30 points...
tekken8[2d]: wait 6?
You in mid air[6d]: black should really consider getting a new job instead of being a go pro. doesnt matter if he wins this game or not,,,,this is not on a professional level
Move 94
Anthe[4k]: katago thinks different ...
Move 96
tekken8[2d]: why not P9 before K6 for B?
Move 97
death_taxes[1k]: wtf is this position?
wxh100[15k]: Im not B
Move 98
death_taxes[1k]: just logged in
Move 99
Zaphodian[?]: B got away with it
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Better for B on bottom
CarloTibaldi[1d]: "you in mid air", you are for sure 9d pro to be able to express such a judjement ;-)
wxh100[15k]: Who
Move 101
wxh100[15k]: E12 is good
You in mid air[6d]: im not merely as goo as ant 3d on ogs but i have watched many games in my life. i know how strong other players are.
Move 103
You in mid air[6d]: any high dan on ogs could beat this black player for sure
death_taxes[1k]: ok up until the right part started it was pretty normal i'd say
Yezurof[2d]: ahahahah
death_taxes[1k]: b has to be much better here, no?
Move 104
redreoicy[5d]: b is
You in mid air[6d]: just look at hte right side,,,b put 16moves to get 15points,,,,
You in mid air[6d]: no real pro ever does that
Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, I am not sure about that@You in mid air. I watched a top pro recently and for the first 50 moves it wasn;t clear at all how strong they were.
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Ko
hypergeometric[4k]: lol wxh100, if black plays P10 white can capture
Zaphodian[?]: Actually @You in mid air, the right side was good for B
Move 105
redreoicy[5d]: of course it was, 120 points from just the ponnukis alone :)
death_taxes[1k]: yeah, w has a floating group inside b's moyo
EverettLiu[9d]: :)
hypergeometric[4k]: I agree with rereoicy ! I'll remember this technics in endgame, to create points easily if I'm losing :))))
You in mid air[6d]: i never said the right side was not good for b
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Alive
death_taxes[1k]: i'm wondering if b O11 works
wxh100[15k]: I try
Move 106
Zaphodian[?]: I must have misread your name at the 14:19 time mark
death_taxes[1k]: for some reason i can't click on variations in chat, any suggestions?
Move 107
Zaphodian[?]: ou don't need to click
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Dead
death_taxes[1k]: also can't see moves if i hover above
Zaphodian[?]: Game looks pretty much over
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation: W escapes
wxh100[15k]: O12 is good in my opinion
wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation: Alive
hypergeometric[4k]: wxh, usually people who share variations are the one who are dan/low kyu
hypergeometric[4k]: otherwise everyone will share their own variations
Move 109
hypergeometric[4k]: just a comment :D
wxh100[15k]: ok
wxh100[15k]: Sure
Move 111
death_taxes[1k]: ok now i see variations, al good
wxh100[15k]: I just like to experiment (probably)
Move 112
Zaphodian[?]: Yeah, the players like to win, which is slightly different.
Move 118
wxh100[15k]: I think W will timeout
Move 119
hypergeometric[4k]: Should W resign ?
Move 120
wxh100[15k]: Estimate score, B by 13.5
Zaphodian[?]: "Should" is a strong statement
wxh100[15k]: The right is basically all Black's territory
Move 121
wxh100[15k]: Now B by 14.5
redreoicy[5d]: amusingly, the 4 ponnukis turned into almost 120 points after all
Move 122
Zaphodian[?]: White is busily building his own ponnuki shapes
hypergeometric[4k]: :DD
Move 131
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Andrii is such a bully
Move 134
Zaphodian[?]: But is he a killer?
Mardipaev[4d]: does he need to be?
Zaphodian[?]: If you can, you should
Move 135
Zaphodian[?]: He goes for the kill
Move 137
hypergeometric[4k]: M11 and M9 are two eyes no
hypergeometric[4k]: or maybe it's a ko ?
Move 142
wxh100[13k]: It probably is
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: just take profit
hypergeometric[4k]: has black any ko threats ?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Variation: 2
Move 145
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: so he counted that it's enough
Move 148
Zaphodian[?]: It's still a ko But W is aiming at cutting with S14 later
hypergeometric[4k]: what is white trying to do ?
Move 154
hypergeometric[4k]: can white disconnect Q16 ?
hypergeometric[4k]: sorry
hypergeometric[4k]: (tell me if I'm too annoying with the questions)
death_taxes[1k]: no
death_taxes[1k]: he cannot
hypergeometric[4k]: Variation: variation : white cut
Move 155
hypergeometric[4k]: does my variation makes sense
death_taxes[1k]: no
Move 157
death_taxes[1k]: T14 is the move
Move 164
hypergeometric[4k]: they are fighting for another ponuki
Move 166
Move 167
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: it's worth 30 points after all
Move 172
death_taxes[1k]: hm
Move 174
death_taxes[1k]: was w S13 a mistake?
Move 177
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: why would it be ?
Move 178
death_taxes[1k]: it gets an extra kothreat compared to Q14 but loses at least 1 point?
death_taxes[1k]: 2 if you also count Q13?
death_taxes[1k]: maybe more important to win the C16 ko?
LVL79[4k]: G4?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: yeah but maybe he can squeeze p15 and force to capture so fine ?
Move 179
death_taxes[1k]: ah
FrancoisGo[4d]: Variation: still looses a lot compared to this sente
Move 182
death_taxes[1k]: but even if w manages to force a squeeze, b will have to spend 2 moves
Move 195
AndriiKravets[1p]: thanks
Sandmann6d[7d]: thx
Sandmann6d[7d]: epic fail(
death_taxes[1k]: that was one-sided
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg ^^
You in mid air[6d]: white has a chance if he got 7handi
death_taxes[1k]: you're not funny
LVL79[4k]: Gg
LVL79[4k]: Вітаю!
January 16, 2021
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