Move 195
9 captures
+ 6.5
Unranked
Rules: Japanese
Black wins by Resignation
Move 23
January 15, 2021
[12:19] Zaphodian[?]: hmmm, I like R11 at R12
Move 26
[12:19] FremchGuy[5k]: is there a twitch review?
[12:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Looks better for B
Move 27
[12:21] xxchemotoxx[?]: i think Ben will do twitch today, but maybe for the later games
[12:21] FremchGuy[5k]: oh cool
[12:21] hypergeometric[4k]: what is the best attack W can do against the lower left black group ?
[12:21] hypergeometric[4k]: I'm curious
[12:22] hypergeometric[4k]: does G3 works for example ? is it better to pressure in G4 ?
[12:22] hypergeometric[4k]: or something else ?
Move 28
[12:22] Mardipaev[4d]: slow
Move 30
[12:23] Zaphodian[?]: The schedule for today's games can be found here: https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
Move 32
[12:25] Zaphodian[?]: G3 vs G4, G4 is certainly wrong. If you want to press, F4 would be preferable.
[12:25] hypergeometric[4k]: thanks ! would you press or G3 ?
[12:25] Zaphodian[?]: C16 should be at C10 I think. But W's plan is C16 D15 C10
[12:26] Zaphodian[?]: when? instead of O5?
Move 34
[12:26] hypergeometric[4k]: yes
[12:26] hypergeometric[4k]: instead of O5
[12:26] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Pressing is possible
Move 36
[12:27] hypergeometric[4k]: I felt it was a good time to attack it before it was stronger
Move 44
[12:29] ronin3[1k]: c8 was a fine move
Move 45
Move 54
[12:30] Mardipaev[4d]: I would have prefered B7 over A3
[12:31] Puumanamana[3d]: why did black connect at d3 earlier instead of C2?
[12:32] Zaphodian[?]: This looks like a successful invasion by W
Move 65
[12:36] hypergeometric[4k]: white has no eyes no
Move 66
[12:37] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Better for B
Move 67
[12:38] Zaphodian[?]: R2 was greedy, I think
Move 70
[12:38] nidza[?]: i would play n7 at o8
Move 71
[12:41] tritis[6k]: hello
Move 75
[12:42] kantanat100[6k]: Hi
[12:42] LVL79[4k]: Kung fu
[12:42] kantanat100[6k]: Nooby
[12:43] hypergeometric[4k]: W doesn't have ko threats no ?
[12:43] Zaphodian[?]: ??? R9 at P9 was better
[12:43] kantanat100[6k]: T12
[12:44] kantanat100[6k]: Variation: 1
Move 77
[12:45] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W gets a few points and B gets overwhelming influence
[12:47] Zaphodian[?]: Looks like a horrible for W now. As if you take the wings of a fly in flight.
[12:47] Zaphodian[?]: (oops * horrible crash*)
[12:49] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: super horrible - so W needs to play a ko threat
[12:49] ben0[4d]: hello people, Ill start a commentary of this game in about 10min, https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0 and I'll try to do all games today
Move 80
[12:50] Zaphodian[?]: OK, you will be very busy
[12:50] xxchemotoxx[?]: wow :D
[12:51] hypergeometric[4k]: looks painful for white
Move 82
[12:51] ben0[4d]: fun fact, in that situation, ponnuki arent worth 30 pts each
Move 83
[12:52] hypergeometric[4k]: :D
[12:52] FremchGuy[5k]: 😂😂
[12:52] hypergeometric[4k]: sad
Move 84
[12:52] Zaphodian[?]: Really? 30 x 6 = 180!
[12:52] Fredda91[7d]: nice invasion
[12:52] Fredda91[7d]: b is overconcentrated
[12:52] Fredda91[7d]: w must be ahead
[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: nope
[12:53] ben0[4d]: let's face it fredda, in a kgs blitz, black would still die on the right
Move 85
[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: But M6 was questionable
Move 88
[12:56] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B is fine
Move 90
[12:57] wxh100[15k]: M5 is goos
[12:57] wxh100[15k]: good
Move 91
[12:57] wxh100[15k]: M5 Probably
[12:59] Zaphodian[?]: B might be thinking of L2 though
[12:59] Zaphodian[?]: oops, and he does it
[12:59] Zaphodian[?]: L5 now
[12:59] wxh100[15k]: It's another way
[13:00] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:00] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:01] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:01] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:01] Fredda91[7d]: pls keep going
[13:01] Fredda91[7d]: what can white do next_
[13:01] wxh100[15k]: The first and fourth versions can have White capture four stones
[13:02] wxh100[15k]: Alright
[13:02] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:02] wxh100[15k]: A good point
[13:02] wxh100[15k]: Or somewhere around it
[13:02] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:02] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: They are reading this variation
[13:03] wxh100[15k]: Pretty good; The stones are probably dead now...
[13:03] wxh100[15k]: If they're alive, the strong influence makes up for it times a million
[13:04] wxh100[15k]: And the J3 stone is weak
[13:04] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:04] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:04] hypergeometric[4k]: I don't think I would tenuki as white ....
[13:04] wxh100[15k]: okay
[13:05] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:06] wxh100[15k]: And a continuation
[13:06] tekken8[2d]: Variation: If white cuts
[13:06] wxh100[15k]: Black Connects.
[13:06] wxh100[15k]: Continuation:
[13:06] wxh100[15k]: Variation: What White can do next
[13:06] Zaphodian[?]: You had better look at my variation - I am about 6-7 dan.
[13:07] wxh100[15k]: Yours is a question mark
[13:07] tekken8[2d]: pro?
[13:07] wxh100[15k]: Plus the leaderboard sayare between 4k and 5ks you
[13:07] wxh100[15k]: Press the chat icon
[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: I am 3 times European Champ.
[13:07] Martin_L[?]: _D
[13:07] wxh100[15k]: Oh wow
Move 92
[13:08] You in mid air[6d]: the quality of this game is way too low. even black wasted 16 moves on the right side to get what? so inefficient...
[13:08] Leptir[1d]: Zaphodian - senseis: RobVanZeijst
[13:08] Leptir[1d]: he is :)
[13:08] Zaphodian[?]: And was 3/4 place for the pro qual 2-3 years back
[13:08] tekken8[2d]: thats cool
[13:08] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation
[13:08] Zaphodian[?]: So W was unable to read out my variation.
[13:09] tekken8[2d]: why not B K2 instead of N2?
[13:09] hypergeometric[4k]: maybe to also be alive in case the left lower group get disconnected ?
[13:09] wxh100[15k]: Yeah, the positionis pretty low
[13:10] ben0[4d]: review of this game started at : https://www.twitch.tv/zeroben0
[13:10] Qinglong[1d]: cheers
Move 93
[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Forcing move
[13:11] redreoicy[5d]: I count 180 points for black on the right side alone
[13:11] redreoicy[5d]: 6 * 30 for the ponnukis
[13:11] wxh100[15k]: A ponnuki isn't exactly 30 points...
[13:12] tekken8[2d]: wait 6?
[13:12] You in mid air[6d]: black should really consider getting a new job instead of being a go pro. doesnt matter if he wins this game or not,,,,this is not on a professional level
Move 94
[13:13] Anthe[4k]: katago thinks different ...
Move 96
[13:14] death_taxes[1k]: !
[13:14] tekken8[2d]: why not P9 before K6 for B?
Move 97
[13:14] death_taxes[1k]: wtf is this position?
[13:14] wxh100[15k]: Im not B
Move 98
[13:14] death_taxes[1k]: just logged in
Move 99
[13:14] Zaphodian[?]: B got away with it
[13:15] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Better for B on bottom
[13:15] CarloTibaldi[1d]: "you in mid air", you are for sure 9d pro to be able to express such a judjement ;-)
[13:15] wxh100[15k]: Who
Move 101
[13:16] wxh100[15k]: E12 is good
[13:16] You in mid air[6d]: im not merely as goo as ant 3d on ogs but i have watched many games in my life. i know how strong other players are.
Move 103
[13:17] You in mid air[6d]: any high dan on ogs could beat this black player for sure
[13:17] death_taxes[1k]: ok up until the right part started it was pretty normal i'd say
[13:17] Yezurof[2d]: ahahahah
[13:17] death_taxes[1k]: b has to be much better here, no?
Move 104
[13:18] redreoicy[5d]: b is
[13:19] You in mid air[6d]: just look at hte right side,,,b put 16moves to get 15points,,,,
[13:19] You in mid air[6d]: no real pro ever does that
[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, I am not sure about that@You in mid air. I watched a top pro recently and for the first 50 moves it wasn;t clear at all how strong they were.
[13:20] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Ko
[13:20] hypergeometric[4k]: lol wxh100, if black plays P10 white can capture
[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Actually @You in mid air, the right side was good for B
Move 105
[13:21] redreoicy[5d]: of course it was, 120 points from just the ponnukis alone :)
[13:21] death_taxes[1k]: yeah, w has a floating group inside b's moyo
[13:21] EverettLiu[9d]: :)
[13:21] hypergeometric[4k]: I agree with rereoicy ! I'll remember this technics in endgame, to create points easily if I'm losing :))))
[13:21] You in mid air[6d]: i never said the right side was not good for b
[13:22] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Alive
[13:22] death_taxes[1k]: i'm wondering if b O11 works
[13:22] wxh100[15k]: I try
Move 106
[13:23] Zaphodian[?]: I must have misread your name at the 14:19 time mark
[13:23] death_taxes[1k]: for some reason i can't click on variations in chat, any suggestions?
Move 107
[13:23] Zaphodian[?]: ou don't need to click
[13:23] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Dead
[13:24] death_taxes[1k]: also can't see moves if i hover above
[13:24] Zaphodian[?]: Game looks pretty much over
[13:24] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation: W escapes
[13:25] wxh100[15k]: O12 is good in my opinion
[13:25] wxh100[15k]: Variation: Continuation: Alive
[13:25] hypergeometric[4k]: wxh, usually people who share variations are the one who are dan/low kyu
[13:26] hypergeometric[4k]: otherwise everyone will share their own variations
Move 109
[13:26] hypergeometric[4k]: just a comment :D
[13:26] wxh100[15k]: ok
[13:26] wxh100[15k]: Sure
Move 111
[13:26] death_taxes[1k]: ok now i see variations, al good
[13:26] wxh100[15k]: I just like to experiment (probably)
Move 112
[13:27] Zaphodian[?]: Yeah, the players like to win, which is slightly different.
Move 118
[13:29] wxh100[15k]: I think W will timeout
Move 119
[13:29] hypergeometric[4k]: Should W resign ?
Move 120
[13:30] wxh100[15k]: Estimate score, B by 13.5
[13:30] Zaphodian[?]: "Should" is a strong statement
[13:31] wxh100[15k]: The right is basically all Black's territory
Move 121
[13:31] wxh100[15k]: Now B by 14.5
[13:31] redreoicy[5d]: amusingly, the 4 ponnukis turned into almost 120 points after all
Move 122
[13:33] Zaphodian[?]: White is busily building his own ponnuki shapes
[13:33] hypergeometric[4k]: :DD
[13:37] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Andrii is such a bully
Move 134
[13:41] Zaphodian[?]: But is he a killer?
[13:41] Mardipaev[4d]: does he need to be?
[13:41] Zaphodian[?]: If you can, you should
Move 135
[13:42] Zaphodian[?]: He goes for the kill
Move 137
[13:44] hypergeometric[4k]: M11 and M9 are two eyes no
[13:44] hypergeometric[4k]: ?
[13:44] hypergeometric[4k]: or maybe it's a ko ?
Move 142
[13:47] wxh100[13k]: It probably is
[13:47] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: just take profit
[13:47] hypergeometric[4k]: has black any ko threats ?
[13:47] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Variation: 2
Move 145
[13:50] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: so he counted that it's enough
Move 148
[13:52] Zaphodian[?]: It's still a ko But W is aiming at cutting with S14 later
[13:53] hypergeometric[4k]: what is white trying to do ?
Move 154
[13:57] hypergeometric[4k]: can white disconnect Q16 ?
[13:57] hypergeometric[4k]: sorry
[13:57] hypergeometric[4k]: (tell me if I'm too annoying with the questions)
[13:57] death_taxes[1k]: no
[13:57] death_taxes[1k]: he cannot
[13:58] hypergeometric[4k]: Variation: variation : white cut
Move 155
[13:59] hypergeometric[4k]: does my variation makes sense
[14:00] death_taxes[1k]: no
Move 157
[14:00] death_taxes[1k]: T14 is the move
Move 164
[14:02] hypergeometric[4k]: they are fighting for another ponuki
Move 166
Move 167
[14:03] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: it's worth 30 points after all
Move 172
[14:03] death_taxes[1k]: hm
Move 174
[14:04] death_taxes[1k]: was w S13 a mistake?
Move 177
[14:04] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: why would it be ?
Move 178
[14:05] death_taxes[1k]: it gets an extra kothreat compared to Q14 but loses at least 1 point?
[14:05] death_taxes[1k]: 2 if you also count Q13?
[14:05] death_taxes[1k]: maybe more important to win the C16 ko?
[14:05] LVL79[4k]: G4?
[14:06] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: yeah but maybe he can squeeze p15 and force to capture so fine ?
Move 179
[14:06] death_taxes[1k]: ah
[14:06] FrancoisGo[4d]: Variation: still looses a lot compared to this sente
Move 182
[14:07] death_taxes[1k]: but even if w manages to force a squeeze, b will have to spend 2 moves
Move 195
[14:09] AndriiKravets[1p]: thanks
[14:09] Sandmann6d[7d]: thx
[14:10] Sandmann6d[7d]: epic fail(
[14:10] death_taxes[1k]: that was one-sided
[14:10] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg ^^
[14:10] You in mid air[6d]: white has a chance if he got 7handi
[14:11] death_taxes[1k]: you're not funny
[14:11] LVL79[4k]: Gg
[14:12] LVL79[4k]: Вітаю!
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