Game Finished

Move 190

nidza[?]

4 captures

roln90[4p]

2 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

III

Processing

White wins by Resignation

Reviews

GroSeigenT[10k] - view

go8go[1k] - view

Move 0

January 18, 2021

[17:11] nidza[?]: have a nice game

Move 1

[17:11] roln90[3p]: have a nice game

Move 15

[17:13] ronin3[1k]: woohoo! finally one of the cool josekis

Move 24

[17:16] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i dont undertsand why b wanted to play avalanche here xd

[17:16] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: Variation: should be good enough for b

Move 27

[17:17] ronin3[1k]: lol but b wanted more outside influence

[17:19] Shinkenjoe[1k]: hi

Move 28

[17:19] CarloTibaldi[1d]: since winning this game is not important, I think B plays for fun :-)

Move 31

[17:24] q218689295[?]: Variation: 1

[17:24] siljan[?]: No, black is not playing for fun but for Euro 100 prize-money

[17:25] ronin3[1k]: there's too much choice for W's next move now >__>

[17:25] ronin3[1k]: everything looks important

[17:25] shinuito[1d]: Yeah be interesting to see where white plays

[17:26] shinuito[1d]: I wonder does g17 look interesting

[17:27] ronin3[1k]: probably big but not urgent

[17:27] shinuito[1d]: I was wondering does it threaten a cut

[17:27] TomiP[2d]: hmm... I would probably just play F3

Move 32

[17:28] ronin3[1k]: yay! ilya goes in hard

[17:28] TomiP[2d]: hah C8 was my #2 choice but I thought it would be too early

Move 36

[17:32] astra717[2k]: Удачи!!!

[17:33] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: b thinking this move quite long

[17:33] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: are there locally any other moves than c11?

[17:34] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: e10 and sac c12 stones?

[17:34] MortalGreed[2k]: too big and no reason

[17:35] 1weigo[4k]: Who is nidza?

[17:35] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: nikola mitic, former insei

[17:35] 1weigo[4k]: ty

[17:35] dlpigozzi[4k]: I think B is worried about the connection with D9

[17:35] Licker[3k]: i will say c4 or e4

[17:36] MortalGreed[2k]: is it bigger than white c11 ?

[17:36] dlpigozzi[4k]: is gonna be c11

[17:36] MortalGreed[2k]: don't see any other moves either

[17:37] dlpigozzi[4k]: may be is thinking e10

[17:37] dlpigozzi[4k]: but looks crazy

[17:37] pupukani[4d]: b12

[17:38] Zaphodian[?]: You can find all information about this tournament on this page https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html

Move 37

[17:38] dlpigozzi[4k]: wow

[17:39] Licker[3k]: nice one. too small for saving 3 stone

[17:39] MortalGreed[2k]: it's not 3 stones

[17:39] MortalGreed[2k]: it's automatically alive group

[17:39] MortalGreed[2k]: with almost 0 sente moves

[17:40] Chinitsu[3d]: yeah it looks tremendously big to me...

[17:41] dlpigozzi[4k]: Variation: alive?

[17:41] MortalGreed[2k]: white will go c11 not c10

Move 38

[17:42] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: would have been easier

[17:42] MortalGreed[2k]: i like white position

Move 45

[17:43] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: oh wow, i didnt see this trade happening

[17:43] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i thought it would be bad for b xd

[17:43] Zaphodian[?]: E10 and E8 combi is inefficient.

[17:44] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: The future

Move 46

[17:44] MortalGreed[2k]: 2 worthless stones for c12-c14 is such gift for w

Move 48

[17:45] Zaphodian[?]: W is slightly better, not much.

[17:45] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: w got 3 stones in sente and b got 2 stones in gote, cant be bad for white ^^

[17:45] MortalGreed[2k]: and even in sente

[17:45] MortalGreed[2k]: ye

[17:45] Zaphodian[?]: Give me a slightly better game in sente any time.

Move 51

[17:48] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: make a base first, think later

Move 53

[17:48] Zaphodian[?]: E2 was the vital point

Move 54

[17:49] MortalGreed[2k]: every time Ilya attacks, he gains profit

[17:49] MatiasPankoke[?]: how about: cut two weak groups first, think later :)

[17:49] MortalGreed[2k]: what a player

[17:50] Zaphodian[?]: OK, at least don't think...

[17:50] Zaphodian[?]: what about TAKING a base now with B4?

[17:51] Shinkenjoe[1k]: looks to me like black needs the inefficient g8

[17:51] Shinkenjoe[1k]: f8

Move 55

[17:53] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: b making some points finally ^^

Move 58

[17:54] bobsof[2d]: White is rather surgical.

Move 68

[17:59] Shinkenjoe[1k]: i knew n3 looks shapy ... but l4 still seperates and you have to consider the fight afterwards, or am i wrong?

[17:59] Zaphodian[?]: Brute force right now!

[17:59] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Brutus

[18:00] MatiasPankoke[?]: Thats the AI move :) And with that black is at 75 percent actually

[18:00] MortalGreed[2k]: also looking m3

[18:01] Welvang[1p]: hi

[18:01] MatiasPankoke[?]: I had to check AI since I didn't agree with the Chat that white is winning, sorry ^^

[18:01] Shinkenjoe[1k]: hiho

[18:01] Zaphodian[?]: That's nice to know. Maybe first J9 and G9

[18:01] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Brutus Revised

[18:01] Welvang[1p]: hope to watch a game as great as yesterday but ilya won't let that happen

[18:01] MatiasPankoke[?]: It's hard to look at a game objectively when Ilya is playing, I guess...

[18:01] MortalGreed[2k]: that's still rude, writing percents while game is on

[18:02] Free Tibet[1k]: n4

[18:02] Zaphodian[?]: Yesterday's game was outstanding, especially from an entertainment perspective

[18:02] bobsof[2d]: Anthology

[18:03] MatiasPankoke[?]: If Nikola gets a big lead now it might be as entertaining

[18:03] Lennonson[5k]: Who played yesterday?

[18:03] Zaphodian[?]: If people are interested in yesterday's game _ game 30208121

[18:03] Lennonson[5k]: Thank you.

[18:03] Chinitsu[3d]: Thanks Zaphodian

[18:04] Zaphodian[?]: You can find all info about this tourney here: https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html

[18:04] Zaphodian[?]: Sure, guys, knock yourselves out.

Move 69

[18:05] Fisherman_M[6k]: the schedule doesn't say much about time the games from now till the end of Jan

[18:05] Fisherman_M[6k]: will appreciate if someone share the link with the details

[18:05] Zaphodian[?]: Those are the details

[18:05] Fisherman_M[6k]: otherwise I can catch the game only by chance

[18:06] Fisherman_M[6k]: any clue about timing for Quarterfinals 22-24 of Jan?

[18:06] Zaphodian[?]: No, once they get to the next round, the players decide the exact day and time

[18:06] Fisherman_M[6k]: I see

[18:07] Fisherman_M[6k]: will it be posted on eurogofed. org then?

[18:07] Zaphodian[?]: Yes

[18:07] Fisherman_M[6k]: excellent!

[18:07] Zaphodian[?]: As soon as they know, each time

[18:07] Fisherman_M[6k]: thank you!!

[18:07] Fisherman_M[6k]: feel way better now)

[18:08] kusrabs[5k]: Weell... Looks like black much much better

[18:08] Zaphodian[?]: OK, well, you are not gonna miss out.

[18:08] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Honte (the proper move)

[18:09] Fisherman_M[6k]: I tink time to explore right side of the board

[18:09] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Honte No. 2

Move 70

[18:10] Zaphodian[?]: After K11, a Black peep at G10 can become nasty

[18:10] Zaphodian[?]: N5 makes a huge number of points

[18:10] MortalGreed[2k]: is white corner alive ? why they both ignore g9 ?

[18:11] kusrabs[5k]: if Iliya looses, the tiebreak in A-group turns to be the hell.

[18:11] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Consistency

Move 71

[18:11] LVL79[4k]: Тайбрейков не будет - Илья уже на первом месте в группе при любом раскладе

[18:12] Welvang[1p]: thats next level genius nikola

[18:12] Zaphodian[?]: L5 looks like a fat overplay after N5

[18:12] Welvang[1p]: you got inspired from yesterday

[18:12] CarloTibaldi[1d]: Ilya is 1st already and Nikola is already 4th

[18:12] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, I did. Maybe consistency is not a valid argument anymore

[18:13] Welvang[1p]: i was actually talking to nikola

[18:13] Welvang[1p]: it's a one way conversation

[18:13] Zaphodian[?]: Ahhh, ok.

[18:13] xxchemotoxx[?]: dont give up Tanguy

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: im checking the game but dunno

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: i feel empty

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: i feel something is missing after yesterday

[18:14] Welvang[1p]: because fredda is not here yet

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: also

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: but Ben is here

[18:14] Zaphodian[?]: Maybe there is someone out there in the Universe who actually listens to you (oops, I did)...

[18:14] xxchemotoxx[?]: literally next to me :D

[18:14] Welvang[1p]: but i'm afraid for fredda

[18:14] Welvang[1p]: he may not come back

[18:15] Welvang[1p]: he said this a few hours ago :

[18:16] Welvang[1p]: Fredrik, 12:58 I’m depressed Fredrik :Can’t experience it again Schayan13:00 What happened? SchayanWife cheated you? 😆 Fredrik :No, The Oskar Ben0 game

[18:16] Welvang[1p]: we all feel like you juli

[18:16] xxchemotoxx[?]: yeah...

Move 75

[18:17] Welvang[1p]: ilya just spent 5min reading l4 and nikola played m6

[18:17] Welvang[1p]: thats genius

[18:18] Zaphodian[?]: IC, wow, Fredda gto shell-shocked by reality

[18:18] Welvang[1p]: (also it's pretty bad)

Move 77

[18:18] Fisherman_M[6k]: seems B12 can safe blacks

Move 78

[18:18] Zaphodian[?]: OMG, W just lives and that's that

Move 89

[18:19] Zaphodian[?]: L5 and so were a huge loss...

[18:20] Welvang[1p]: especially m6 :(

[18:20] Zaphodian[?]: Yes.

[18:20] damu[?]: Game finished

Move 90

[18:20] Welvang[1p]: not if you're there damu

Move 91

[18:21] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: wait is it sudenly so bad for b?

Move 93

[18:21] Zaphodian[?]: No, B is a little behind

[18:21] Welvang[1p]: there is a fragment of ben-oscar games in all of us

[18:21] GroSeigenT[6k]: Review: ##599134

[18:21] Welvang[1p]: together we can't make it revive

[18:21] damu[?]: Its like 1933 for b

[18:21] Welvang[1p]: from which side

[18:21] Zaphodian[?]: R4 Q5 P4 was better at P4 immediately

[18:22] kusrabs[5k]: But, CarloTibaldi and LVL79: ... in case of 2 players with an equal number of wins after three rounds the result of the mutual game decides. I though the number #1 is just for the second pairing, losers with losers.

Move 94

[18:22] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: groSeigen ? Really ? xD

Move 96

[18:22] damu[?]: Mutual destruction coming

Move 101

[18:22] MortalGreed[2k]: such a proud corner for b

[18:22] Welvang[1p]: nikola plays fast = nikola is mad at the game

Move 104

[18:23] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: and then the game became a blitz

[18:23] Welvang[1p]: but there is still hope

Move 105

[18:23] damu[?]: He is already drunk probably

[18:23] damu[?]: Couldnt resist temptation After fuseki

[18:23] CarloTibaldi[1d]: @kusrabs, Ilya has already won 2 games, no 2 other players can get to 2 wins (just 1 and not Nikola)

[18:24] MortalGreed[2k]: for the last 50 moves did b gain any real territory ?

Move 106

[18:24] Welvang[1p]: b5 is actually big yose loss for white, also he'll get g11 cut, and some potential

[18:24] Welvang[1p]: it's not all dark

Move 107

[18:24] Welvang[1p]: b points are hidden for now

[18:25] ben0[4d]: Hello darkness my old friend

[18:25] Welvang[1p]: the legend is here

[18:25] damu[?]: Zerooo

[18:25] gagovedo[?]: everybody, stand please

[18:26] Welvang[1p]: :)

[18:26] ben0[4d]: Show some respect indeed

[18:26] xxchemotoxx[?]: not everything is in ashes yet

[18:27] gagovedo[?]: ok, you can seat now

Move 110

[18:27] LVL79[4k]: ^)

Move 111

[18:28] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: is learning new kibitz-skill here

[18:28] ben0[4d]: Well, looking at this game, Nikola only chance of winning is if he made a video saying he will destroy Ilya

[18:28] Welvang[1p]: everytime i read the word "ashes" its pronounced like if it was a deodorant advertising

[18:28] Welvang[1p]: in my head

[18:28] xxchemotoxx[?]: maybe a gap in the market field

[18:29] mark5000[8d]: Please keep the kibitz respectful. Thank you.

[18:29] ben0[4d]: No.

[18:29] ben0[4d]: Not after what happened yesterday

[18:30] Welvang[1p]: Variation: is that worth it ?

[18:30] kusrabs[5k]: my fault, I see. Thank you, CarloTibaldi

Move 120

[18:32] LVL79[4k]: _*+/test/+*_

[18:32] Welvang[1p]: feels like the kibitz may end up soon anyway mark5000

Move 125

[18:33] tekken8[2d]: wait what

[18:33] damu[?]: Fuuck this game

Move 127

[18:34] Welvang[1p]: or not :)

[18:34] damu[?]: Couldnt capture or what

Move 129

[18:34] Welvang[1p]: he could but that's risking a huge moyo

[18:34] damu[?]: Hmm

[18:35] tekken8[2d]: of course white destroys the center

Move 132

[18:35] Welvang[1p]: Variation: 3

[18:35] damu[?]: Insta hane aha

Move 134

[18:36] Free Tibet[1k]: bravo

[18:36] LVL79[4k]: damu, what happens?

[18:36] Welvang[1p]: there is hope for a dragon kill

[18:37] Welvang[1p]: o10 feels nice

[18:37] gocaman[3k]: go nizda!

[18:37] damu[?]: If w gets 10 points on the top he has 55 without komi

[18:38] damu[?]: Variation: I see barely 40 for b

[18:38] Palko[2p]: I want to say it's hopeless for black

Move 135

[18:38] go8go[1d]: Review: ##599145

Move 139

[18:39] Welvang[1p]: i see 120 points with dragon dying

[18:39] damu[?]: So final fight

[18:39] damu[?]: Inshallah nikola will kill it

[18:39] kusrabs[5k]: o10 kills the hope

[18:39] tekken8[2d]: yeah right

Move 145

[18:43] ronin3[1k]: i missed the big match :(

Move 149

[18:44] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: so is the dragon now alive?

[18:44] Welvang[1p]: not yet, there is a chance if white has to live in a painful way and b kills top

[18:45] weiwuwei[3d]: dragon has one sure eye

[18:47] Welvang[1p]: tbh ilya needs to be extra careful

Move 150

[18:49] death_taxes[1k]: just tuned in, seems like a low point game

Move 151

[18:50] death_taxes[1k]: b is a bit behind, right?

[18:50] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, but B still has some tricks

[18:50] Welvang[1p]: he's behind on territory, game might be decided in the next 10-15moves

[18:50] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: trick example

Move 152

[18:51] death_taxes[1k]: yes, w group in middle seems weak

[18:51] Welvang[1p]: l15 ?

[18:51] Zaphodian[?]: Yup, keep splitting

[18:53] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: If, if, then

[18:57] kusrabs[5k]: Variation: варкрафт

[18:58] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: big plans if B gets sente

[18:58] Russian[5d]: Variation: cach mouse!

[18:58] brubrubrubru[16k]: ahahahha

Move 157

[18:59] Welvang[1p]: hmm

[19:00] Zaphodian[?]: indeed, hmm

[19:00] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: killng intention

Move 159

[19:01] Zaphodian[?]: ???

Move 160

[19:01] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: o.o

[19:01] pynxy[6d]: Never understimate the power of someone playing old japanese style

[19:01] Zaphodian[?]: I understand Q18 instead of N15

[19:01] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: somebody surely misjudged this?

[19:02] -Crr-Ake-[11k]: W gave up???

[19:02] Welvang[1p]: that move is working really well

[19:02] Zaphodian[?]: yes

[19:02] NinjaKitty[8k]: Variation: shuriken ...

Move 161

[19:02] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: looks like b gave up on attacking the center xd

Move 162

[19:02] Zaphodian[?]: J4 K4 L7

Move 163

[19:03] Zaphodian[?]: G17 looks slightly risky

Move 165

[19:04] Zaphodian[?]: but $*!%, he plays it

[19:04] pynxy[6d]: he is eu champ, he can play whatever he wans

[19:05] LVL79[4k]: very interesting game

[19:05] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: no big deal

[19:05] Welvang[1p]: true, if nikola plays good, he will play better

[19:05] Welvang[1p]: if nikola plays random, he'll play randomer

[19:06] Zaphodian[?]: We can play whatever we want. The only difference is that we lose more often.

[19:06] Welvang[1p]: that's an ability he has

[19:06] Zaphodian[?]: Yup, today, Random is his middle name.

Move 166

[19:07] Zaphodian[?]: But yesterday, Oscar played randomest.

[19:07] JanGret[11k]: so what does white want to do in the top?

Move 168

[19:07] Zaphodian[?]: staying alive, ah, ah, ah, ah, staying alive

Move 169

[19:08] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: even with the worst intentions

[19:08] pynxy[6d]: Ilya does not simply walk into death

Move 175

[19:09] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: more worst intentions

[19:09] tymak[2d]: what about b?....shouldnt healso focus on staying alive?

[19:09] Zaphodian[?]: Can't afford to

[19:10] Zaphodian[?]: It's too expensive to stay alive

Move 178

[19:12] pynxy[6d]: w has the initiative to take big points in the endgame and it should be enough for him

Move 179

[19:13] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: In our wildest dreams

[19:14] tekken8[2d]: not q16?

Move 180

[19:14] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: w to kill the rest of the avalanche?

Move 181

[19:16] Zaphodian[?]: K13 looks a mistake

[19:16] 1weigo[4k]: xhy?

[19:16] 1weigo[4k]: why?*

[19:16] riiia[3k]: k13 seems to invite a capturing race

[19:16] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: impossible made possible

[19:17] tekken8[2d]: blacks dead

[19:17] tekken8[2d]: probably

[19:17] NikAmv[23k]: hello guys

[19:17] NikAmv[23k]: omg it's pro

Move 182

[19:18] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: not gonna happen either

[19:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B saves his behind

[19:19] NikAmv[23k]: maybe k18

[19:20] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: hard to kill

[19:20] ronin3[1k]: eww that white dumpling

[19:21] pynxy[6d]: this is what happenes when you play out of date josekies

Move 183

[19:22] Zaphodian[?]: Never-ending hope

[19:22] JanGret[11k]: that is just black alive and white gaining a little territory. And white stronger in the middle. I doubt black wants that

[19:22] NikAmv[23k]: thank

Move 184

[19:22] Zaphodian[?]: Black just wants to have fun now

Move 185

[19:22] Ca11e[?]: Ouf, nice trap from black

[19:23] JanGret[11k]: does this "tetris block" shape at the top has a name? Every time I put it in my games I lose ^^

[19:23] ronin3[1k]: haha ^^

[19:23] tekken8[2d]: B2 bombers

Move 186

[19:24] ronin3[1k]: let's see if also W loses

[19:24] brcoutme[4k]: extended empty triangle

Move 187

[19:24] Zaphodian[?]: F13 next

[19:24] Zaphodian[?]: oopppppssss

Move 188

[19:24] filip.diloom[2d]: there is no B2-Bomber here

Move 189

[19:24] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: hard to live

Move 190

[19:25] pynxy[6d]: Big cost to live

[19:25] tekken8[2d]: g14

[19:25] Volker_S_Halstenbek[2d]: but g14 is gg :-)

[19:25] tekken8[2d]: easy one for me i guess

[19:25] nidza[?]: thank you

[19:25] NikAmv[23k]: nice game

[19:25] fightyoats[4d]: gg

[19:25] roln90[3p]: thanks

[19:25] kusrabs[5k]: gg!

[19:25] Moses GO[7k]: gg ty

[19:25] ronin3[1k]: wowow

[19:25] JanGret[11k]: gg great game

[19:26] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg!

[19:26] Fisherman_M[6k]: gg, ty!

[19:27] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: this is what happens when you play avalanche joseki ^^

[19:27] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i fully blame everything that happened on that one joseki choice

[19:28] JanGret[11k]: Looking forward to Stanislaw vs Anton tomorrow, decides who advances in group a

[19:28] ronin3[1k]: i'm happy that W only played the big, non urgent move at move 160 or so

[19:29] Ca11e[?]: Imagine if this game was as hard as chess : )

[19:29] Ca11e[?]: joke*

[19:29] Ca11e[?]: calm