Move 162
3 captures
1 capture
+ 6.5
Unranked
Rules: Japanese
III
W+47.9
020406080100120140160−40−30−20−10
J2H5G4G1G16H14
Win %
Score
White wins by Resignation

Reviews

Move 0
January 22, 2021
[12:02] Siasio[?]: Hello
[12:09] Badukness05[3k]: hello
[12:09] AndriiKravets[1p]: have a nice game
[12:09] Badukness05[3k]: oneigaishimasu
[12:09] Siasio[?]: Have a nice game!
Move 2
[12:09] Rocco[1d]: is there somewhere we can see the current standings in this tourney?
Move 5
[12:10] Badukness05[3k]: kobayashi opening?
Move 6
[12:10] Rocco[1d]: ta
[12:10] JanGret[10k]: This is the first Quarter Final. Each game is best of 3
[12:10] JanGret[10k]: This is the first of their games
Move 9
[12:11] Rocco[1d]: $*!% this tourney is staaacked
Move 10
[12:11] Rocco[1d]: wasn't the ilya ali game the first quarter final?
Move 11
[12:11] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: yeah
Move 12
[12:12] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: but like, both are first games in best-of-3 matchaes
[12:12] JanGret[10k]: Yeas, that was the first game of ilya ali, who have at least one more game ahead
Move 14
[12:12] FinrodFelagund[4d]: Nice classic looking fuseki
[12:13] Rocco[1d]: this looks strangely similar to the ali ilya game
[12:13] Rocco[1d]: :D
[12:13] Jolly River[5k]: andrii did his homework
[12:13] Rocco[1d]: this second line move was also played early on
[12:13] dacat1[7d]: his homework?
Move 15
[12:14] Jolly River[5k]: studied ilya game
Move 16
[12:16] FinrodFelagund[4d]: H2 has been a thing for awhile now
Move 17
[12:17] Badukness05[3k]: this is new opening?
[12:17] Jolly River[5k]: it was just a jooke
[12:17] Rocco[1d]: yeah, very long time I believe
[12:18] Rocco[1d]: but I haven't seen it played much in the pro circuit
[12:18] Rocco[1d]: maybe there's some new consensus around it being played?
[12:18] Badukness05[3k]: why the hell b give up of the bottom?
[12:18] Celebrir[2d]: Is this a standard variation? Feels good for B
[12:18] FinrodFelagund[4d]: I think it was part of why K4 is a little less popular, but I don't really know
Move 18
[12:21] JanGret[10k]: L3 feels strong for white, seems to force black to react while building a bit of mojo in the bottom...
Move 23
[12:22] Celebrir[2d]: W is quite flat and there is the possibility to combine with something like Q7 for B
[12:23] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: w gave up his corner and b gave up his bottom side
[12:23] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: funny how they are already trading their positions on move 20 xd
Move 25
[12:23] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: go stash !
[12:24] sithari[2d]: s4?
Move 27
[12:24] Zaphodian[?]: Andrii would probably say something like: "In general, White wants to play H2 when Black has this shape with F3, F4, and K4."
Move 28
[12:25] JanGret[10k]: this seems so interesting. One of the amateurs close to becomming the next EU Pro, and one of the newer EU pros. Both want to prove themselves here
[12:25] Zaphodian[?]: Followed by: "But I don't know..."
[12:25] Zaphodian[?]: Nah, they are not out 'to prove something'.
[12:25] carot[2k]: And then "Why not?"
[12:26] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, indeed.
[12:27] Badukness05[3k]: 42 is the key
[12:27] carot[2k]: I think we're lucky to have such great commentators among the pros (seriously, despite the predictability of some of their catchphrases)
[12:28] Zaphodian[?]: At some time in the distant past or the fleeting future, Black may want to aim at developing the idea of organizing a cutting action around J2., e.g. J2, J3, H3.
Move 29
[12:28] Zaphodian[?]: Well, they weren't great in the beginning. But they have grown into their roles.
[12:29] ronin3[1k]: if pudding doesn't cut the string of stones have no meaning whatsoever
[12:30] Rocco[1d]: they're playing quite fast?
[12:30] Rocco[1d]: or just my impression?
[12:30] JanGret[10k]: Is that a proverb I never heard before or is stanis nickname pudding?
Move 33
[12:30] sithari[2d]: 2-2!
Move 35
[12:31] ronin3[1k]: :) is just my doomed attempt at using "wheat" for W and "pudding" for B, tired of calling them white/black
Move 36
[12:31] Pond Turtle[2d]: lol they jist pierced each other's shape
[12:31] solarwinds[8k]: Wow! the ranks on OGS are really hard.
[12:31] sithari[2d]: same idea buw 2-2 more stylish :)
[12:31] solarwinds[8k]: A 13k at the European finals :)
[12:32] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Opportunity knocks to cut
[12:32] ronin3[1k]: pudding's shape looks like a nightstick
[12:32] sithari[2d]: s10?
[12:33] sufjan[3d]: @Zaphodnian overconcentrated for black?
[12:33] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: another approach
[12:33] dacat1[7d]: looks nice for b maybe, this trade?
[12:33] dacat1[7d]: not sure
[12:33] dacat1[7d]: that's my first impression
[12:33] sithari[2d]: r10 I mean
[12:33] Zaphodian[?]: At least you save a move at S4
[12:33] dacat1[7d]: Variation: cutting this way should be correct?
[12:34] dacat1[7d]: we really dont want to give an outside ponnuki
[12:34] Badukness05[3k]: b shape is so nice
[12:34] ronin3[1k]: +1, dacat
[12:34] sithari[2d]: dacat1, B should r10 or r14 imo
[12:35] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: If W resists
[12:35] dacat1[7d]: if b cuts how I suggested, i think he's fine... it might however be even nicer to pincer r10 or smth
[12:35] sithari[2d]: cut looks lame for this stage
[12:35] sithari[2d]: c17 also possible
[12:35] ronin3[1k]: I really hope B goes for Zaphod's plan starting at J2
[12:35] sithari[2d]: so attack or tenuki
[12:36] dacat1[7d]: i like cut... free money and w has no base... if r10 then w q18 and I dont see black's next move in the attack
[12:36] Zaphodian[?]: But, dacat, in your variation S4 becomes meaningless
[12:36] dacat1[7d]: but yes the cut is a bit lame
[12:36] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i wouldnt fee comfortable having 10-stone long stick after playing 18 stones on the board as black >___<
[12:36] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: but thats just my kyu-level thinking
[12:36] ronin3[1k]: you don't know yet the power of the cudgel-formation
[12:37] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, and I'll answer that, or at least I will try to.
Move 37
[12:37] dacat1[7d]: Variation: ok, better than the cut
[12:37] KKkanbolat[2k]: Variation: 1
[12:37] Rocco[1d]: is white in trouble?
[12:38] sithari[2d]: cool
[12:38] Zaphodian[?]: The point of a stick like that is that it also works as a divider weher W has to live on both sides. This takes a lot of moves, meaning that W's stones are not working together and are not placed in an efficient way.
[12:38] ronin3[1k]: moreover W already has 2 more stones on the second line than black
[12:38] Rocco[1d]: white is pretty low too
Move 38
[12:38] Rocco[1d]: and has some cash to the left
[12:38] Rocco[1d]: for black
Move 39
[12:39] KKkanbolat[2k]: Variation: 2
[12:39] sithari[2d]: KK ponnuki too good for B
Move 40
[12:39] Zaphodian[?]: I strongly feel that O7 misses the vital point, which is at O6
[12:40] Zaphodian[?]: So now B gets squeezed... vey bad
[12:40] Zaphodian[?]: very bad
[12:40] Rocco[1d]: sente squeezes
[12:40] sithari[2d]: o8?
[12:40] ronin3[1k]: unless... P9?
[12:40] Badukness05[3k]: what is w doing?
[12:40] Zaphodian[?]: B might want to give up those 2 stones
[12:40] Pond Turtle[2d]: W is still not locally alive tho
[12:40] ronin3[1k]: what is w NOT doing, is the question!
[12:41] Rocco[1d]: feels easy for white to break out into the center
[12:41] Rocco[1d]: either way
[12:41] Lunla-RB[10k]: hi
[12:41] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Squeeze
[12:42] Rocco[1d]: black surely can't save those stones
[12:42] FinrodFelagund[4d]: Variation: give up
Move 41
[12:42] ronin3[1k]: OM G ! :D
[12:42] ronin3[1k]: called it!
[12:42] Badukness05[3k]: w is dead
[12:42] ronin3[1k]: (somebody rejoice w me please)
[12:43] FinrodFelagund[4d]: good job ronin
[12:43] ManiMani24[7k]: nice ronin, good call
[12:43] ronin3[1k]: ^^ ty ty
Move 42
[12:43] Rocco[1d]: wasnt expecting that
[12:43] Rocco[1d]: is he going to play a second line move after?
[12:43] Rocco[1d]: to live
[12:43] ManiMani24[7k]: for ronin to be right?
[12:43] Badukness05[3k]: this is looking ugly
[12:43] ManiMani24[7k]: :S
[12:43] dacat1[7d]: why did b do this
[12:44] Pond Turtle[2d]: I think this is good, if B surrounds W he still needs to play to live locally
[12:44] dacat1[7d]: just jump p10 and play a shape
[12:44] Zaphodian[?]: I don't get P8. Should be at o6, I think
[12:44] Rocco[1d]: I expected o6
Move 43
[12:44] Pond Turtle[2d]: cuts don't look like a problem
Move 44
[12:44] ronin3[1k]: see? cudgel formation is transfering its massive influence outwards
Move 50
[12:45] Rocco[1d]: this doesn't seem optimal for white xD
[12:45] Rocco[1d]: but what do I know
[12:45] Zaphodian[?]: The exchange of P9/P8 is undoubtedly good for B
[12:45] dacat1[7d]: white could have just lived comfortably at s5, without playing p8
[12:45] dacat1[7d]: but instead he goes for this cutting plan
[12:46] dacat1[7d]: which I find insane....
[12:46] ManiMani24[7k]: insane in what way?
[12:46] dacat1[7d]: the overplay way
Move 51
[12:47] JanGret[10k]: I see that no player can really play elsewhere right now, but I have the feeling they are playing too much there...
Move 52
[12:47] ManiMani24[7k]: something that is hard to see or something that is not that good for W>
Move 53
[12:47] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Tesuji combi
Move 54
[12:47] Pun-RB[6k]: ty
[12:47] dacat1[7d]: Variation: gg, w sold his soul for a dream
[12:48] ManiMani24[7k]: @JanGret that is what all pro games look like to me
Move 55
[12:48] Badukness05[3k]: is w a real pro?
[12:48] dacat1[7d]: yes :)
[12:48] Trevoke[7k]: European pro yeah
[12:48] JanGret[10k]: @maniMani24 We are not alone then ^^
[12:48] Zaphodian[?]: Come on, everybody would sell his soul for a dream.
Move 58
[12:48] Celebrir[2d]: B has to be a bit careful about the O4 stones as well, right?
[12:49] Badukness05[3k]: o4 is impossible to kill
[12:49] Kamakiri[1k]: After a while yeah
Move 61
[12:49] Kamakiri[1k]: White will use this aji to destroy black influence
[12:49] Rocco[1d]: o4 doesnt look that impossible to kill
[12:49] Rocco[1d]: actually..
[12:49] Trevoke[7k]: W is putting effort towards what seems to be ... Not just negating the influence of the big stick, but actually capturing it?
[12:49] Rocco[1d]: white needs to live?
[12:50] Trevoke[7k]: Yeah, I don't get it
[12:50] Trevoke[7k]: I mean, everyone's saying W is dead, so I'm looking for _something else_, just in case
[12:50] Zaphodian[?]: @Trevoke, But B is trying to make W add a move at S5.
[12:50] shinuito[1k]: Does s7 just live whenever?
[12:51] Celebrir[2d]: Variation: A ladder to keep in mind
Move 63
[12:51] Rocco[1d]: s7 probs not the best local move
[12:52] Trevoke[7k]: @Zaphodian, what will B do if that happens?
[12:52] ronin3[1k]: W wants to kill the cudgel formation :O
[12:52] Celebrir[2d]: s7 should make live, but if you can play on the outside to escape s7 is just not needed
[12:53] Rocco[1d]: s7 is inefficient life though
[12:53] ManiMani24[7k]: place your bets, will the black stick be captured?
[12:53] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: wait doesnt b now have to save either n8 or the stick?
Move 65
[12:53] ronin3[1k]: b chose the stick :(
[12:54] Rocco[1d]: how do you kill
[12:54] Kamakiri[1k]: N10 looks obligatory
[12:54] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: doesnt n10 capture now?
[12:54] Rocco[1d]: the N8 group?
[12:54] pdjordjevic[6k]: surely both are alive
Move 66
[12:54] shinuito[1k]: If just n11 would black really have gotten captured!
[12:54] Rocco[1d]: Variation: and now?
[12:54] Zaphodian[?]: No, the stick will not be captured
[12:55] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: shape move
[12:55] pdjordjevic[6k]: does white need one more move for right side to live?
[12:55] ronin3[1k]: interesting though that W connecting at K7 pulverized Zaphod's plan to cut via J2
[12:56] dacat1[7d]: no, w alive on the right i think
[12:56] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: contemplating how to increase efficiency
[12:56] dacat1[7d]: black made himself so busy
[12:56] Pun-RB[6k]: Variation: shape move
[12:57] Badukness05[3k]: Pun you just copied zaphods move
Move 67
[12:57] ronin3[1k]: B came up with yet another move :O
[12:57] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, so prolly, B will play at H6
[12:58] aesalon[5d]: t10 kill?
[12:58] sithari[2d]: s5?
[12:58] Zaphodian[?]: B wants W to help him choose the right move for defense
[12:59] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Expanding the fight?
[12:59] mikach27[4d]: can b S10?
Move 68
[12:59] ronin3[1k]: s10 feels like a losing move
[13:00] Badukness05[3k]: 5k correcting the 1dan xD
[13:00] aesalon[5d]: s10 wont kill but i think t10 might
[13:00] aesalon[5d]: too busy for now but a big deal if white needs to take gote
[13:00] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: T6 seems to kill?
[13:00] dacat1[7d]: wut
[13:00] dacat1[7d]: can this die
[13:01] dacat1[7d]: im shook
[13:01] ronin3[1k]: define: this
[13:01] sithari[2d]: k9 sure
[13:01] dacat1[7d]: Variation: w is fine?
[13:01] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: large-scale fight
[13:01] aesalon[5d]: dacat t6 no t7
[13:01] shinuito[1k]: Giving white the choice to move out with o11 etc with the two stones seems sketch
[13:02] JanGret[10k]: I don't think I will ever get the insights that Rob van Zeijst gets from such a glance...
[13:02] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: T7 could be Ko
[13:02] dacat1[7d]: I wont either....
[13:03] dacat1[7d]: Variation: w lives this way after r7
[13:03] dacat1[7d]: Variation: w lives this way after **t7
[13:03] dacat1[7d]: now about t6
[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: T6 ok
[13:03] aesalon[5d]: does t10 work as well as t6?
[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: oops. I mean T7 is prolly wrong
[13:04] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i bet 5 euros that this game ends before counting ^^
[13:04] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: any takers?
[13:04] dacat1[7d]: i bet
[13:04] aesalon[5d]: t6 better for race probably but i dont see white ocunter t10
[13:04] Badukness05[3k]: lol koba :)
[13:04] ronin3[1k]: badukness was just adding info/opening a discussion, not correcting :P
[13:04] dacat1[7d]: i think they will count
[13:04] JanGret[10k]: Last of Stans games ended by his opponent timing out
Move 69
[13:04] Zaphodian[?]: For the moment B must defend his center stones, e.g. with L10 or M10
[13:04] Badukness05[3k]: i was joking sory ronin :D
[13:04] ronin3[1k]: you're on, KoBa :D
[13:04] dacat1[7d]: unless by timeout, they will count
Move 71
[13:06] Zaphodian[?]: I don't like betting on dark horses.
[13:07] dacat1[7d]: wow i cant even find a ko after t6
[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: get it over with
Move 72
[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: get it over with, part 2
[13:07] Trevoke[7k]: Seems we've knocked over some dominoes
[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: W was not born yesterday
Move 73
[13:08] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: oh is w now alive ion sente?
[13:08] bodziu[1k]: Looks good for b though
[13:08] dacat1[7d]: Variation: maybe this for white (jut looking at local tsumego)
Move 74
[13:08] ronin3[1k]: if this is sente :P
Move 76
[13:08] ManiMani24[7k]: I think I lost the flow of the game around 10-20 moves ago, I don't even know what are they fighting for at this point
Move 78
[13:09] Badukness05[3k]: me too, i have no idea manimani
Move 79
[13:09] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: dacat special
[13:09] cfisher[4d]: w play triangle two moves in a row :)
[13:09] Badukness05[3k]: if i play in this position i would make a losing move
[13:09] ronin3[1k]: now that W defended with S9, it's just about the fate of N13 and M11 groups
Move 80
[13:09] gaxxlol[3d]: I think they are fighting for whose outside shape is less silly
Move 81
[13:10] Rocco[1d]: black getting some solid cash to the right
[13:10] Rocco[1d]: holy $*!%
[13:10] Trevoke[7k]: B is making bank - better hope that W is gonna be able to actually make and use the influence
[13:10] sithari[2d]: keima
[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: At some stage W has to defend K7 stones
[13:10] ManiMani24[7k]: gaxxlol that sounds like a fight no one can win
[13:10] Kamakiri[1k]: Upper right became much than I imagined
[13:10] ronin3[1k]: what about now? L9?
[13:10] Rocco[1d]: seems liek that time is now zaph?
[13:10] Pond Turtle[2d]: LOL, there was some OGS error for me now and I hear voice say "pass" and I was like "WHAT!?" :-D
[13:10] ronin3[1k]: haha :D
[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Candidate #1
[13:10] JanGret[10k]: the more I look at high level plays, the more the games look like my first games, total mess of chaos ...
[13:11] Rocco[1d]: is K9 too slow?
Move 82
[13:11] dacat1[7d]: Variation: am i blind? w lives @zaphodian
[13:11] Rocco[1d]: K10?
[13:11] ronin3[1k]: ooh even wider than yours, Zaph :O
[13:11] dacat1[7d]: wait im blind
[13:11] dacat1[7d]: xD
[13:11] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: To be blind or not to be blind
[13:12] ronin3[1k]: i kinda liked to poke L9 though :(
[13:12] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: To be blind or not to be blind oops
[13:12] Rocco[1d]: not a real poke though
[13:12] ronin3[1k]: devs should give an edit button esp for variations :P
[13:12] Badukness05[3k]: where w will gain points?
[13:13] ronin3[1k]: this game is not about points
Move 83
[13:13] dacat1[7d]: that's the problem....
[13:13] dacat1[7d]: this whole %***%$)*$* started from r3 which should have been tenuki.
[13:13] Zaphodian[?]: It's about5 honor and being better than the kibitzers
[13:13] ronin3[1k]: ^^
[13:14] Rocco[1d]: black looks a little better right now?
[13:14] JanGret[10k]: white has about -15-20 points down and ~8 to the bottom rights... black only realy has the top as large mojo
[13:14] Badukness05[3k]: its like fightning a 0,5 point ko for the honor
Move 84
[13:14] Rocco[1d]: black has some solid cash to the right dude
[13:14] Rocco[1d]: lol
[13:15] JanGret[10k]: if white lives. If not black has the cash of course
[13:15] dacat1[7d]: Variation: solid points? :D
[13:15] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Chicken crosses road safely
[13:15] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i kinda wanna see w cutting that stick at some point ^^
[13:15] ronin3[1k]: yeh B only have 25-30 pts cash. W 20-ish + komi on the board so far, so it's still open i reckon
[13:16] ApolloGo[1k]: PogChamp
[13:16] Rocco[1d]: dang
[13:16] dacat1[7d]: wrong board game @apollogo
[13:16] dacat1[7d]: ^^
[13:16] Puumanamana[3d]: I like black better though, I would be worried for my 2 weak groups as white
[13:16] Celebrir[2d]: M10 and K7 are about the same strength, but M4 is stronger as N13, so B has more potential to attack?
[13:17] ApolloGo[1k]: Kappa
[13:17] Rocco[1d]: Variation: maybe better?
Move 85
[13:17] bartosz[?]: My kata says W +1.7,
[13:17] ZardozGo[6k]: Variation: daily catpic
[13:18] dacat1[7d]: nice
[13:18] dacat1[7d]: i approve
Move 86
[13:18] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: thank you zardoz ^___^
[13:18] TomiP[3d]: lol
Move 88
[13:19] torusle[5k]: $*!% I painted from my trash account
Move 89
[13:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: sturdier
Move 90
[13:19] ronin3[1k]: it's the one-space jump game :O
[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Woah
[13:20] JanGret[10k]: but K10 seems to put a lot of presure on the o8 group
[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: danger
[13:20] Trevoke[7k]: "We _could_ try to make territory... Or we could try to kill each other. I vote option B, you?" "Yeah, B's good"
Move 91
[13:21] ronin3[1k]: more jump \o/
Move 92
[13:21] Zaphodian[?]: Always go for option
[13:21] Zaphodian[?]: B
[13:21] Rocco[1d]: white certainly seems to be gaining the strategic advantage here
Move 93
[13:22] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: inducing sequence
[13:22] ronin3[1k]: nah jump is better
Move 95
[13:23] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: run, run, run your stones, gently down the board
[13:23] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: merrily merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream
Move 96
[13:23] dacat1[7d]: oh i know that song
[13:23] dacat1[7d]: good song
[13:23] ronin3[1k]: jump \o/
[13:23] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: another boring way to connect
[13:24] JanGret[10k]: C5 seems kinda out of place... ?
[13:24] Puumanamana[3d]: hmm, C5 look so slow, he let w off the hook
[13:24] alte_hippe[3k]: Variation: 8
[13:24] Zaphodian[?]: Nice song and fitting
Move 97
[13:25] Puumanamana[3d]: but I guess it makes the K4 group alive
Move 99
[13:27] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: so which is weaker now, b's center group or the w's shapes surrounding it?
[13:27] JanGret[10k]: feels like B should consider l17 or something soon to keep white from getting a too big mojo in the top
[13:27] Badukness05[3k]: tenuki and die
[13:27] Puumanamana[3d]: not sure if b is that weak, there's a lot of cutting points to use
Move 100
[13:28] Zaphodian[?]: Nice and slow
Move 101
[13:29] JanGret[10k]: I called something :)
[13:29] torusle[5k]: L16 would be a nice preparation to slice the small knights move into pieces.
[13:29] Puumanamana[3d]: isnt it a bit annoying if w plays R17 later? I guess it would live
[13:29] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B1 seems sente...
Move 102
[13:30] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: those w's shapes dont looks so cuttable anymore ^^
[13:31] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Resisting
[13:31] JanGret[10k]: that would cut black though
[13:31] ronin3[1k]: looks like it's mad reading time now :/
Move 103
[13:32] ronin3[1k]: good call!
[13:32] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Not resisting
[13:32] Manowar_7[2d]: L11?
[13:32] dacat1[7d]: looks like it's mad reading time now ~ both these lunatics from move 1
[13:32] dacat1[7d]: :D
[13:33] ronin3[1k]: haha ^^
[13:33] dacat1[7d]: what can i say, they're better than me :D
[13:33] alte_hippe[3k]: is go turing complete?
[13:34] ManiMani24[7k]: go is finite
[13:34] ManiMani24[7k]: so no
[13:34] sufjan[3d]: it is but non-deterministic
[13:35] dacat1[7d]: Variation: funnyt way to cut
[13:35] ronin3[1k]: btw i like the feeling after playing bold moves like this last black one. a mix of excitement and uncertainty
[13:35] dacat1[7d]: no clue if it's good, looks fun though, k15 cut i mean
Move 105
[13:36] ronin3[1k]: W is folding :(
[13:37] The Treeman[3k]: what is this game?
Move 107
[13:37] dacat1[7d]: why is w folding?
Move 109
[13:37] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: quater-final match of grand prix finale https://www.eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html
[13:37] ronin3[1k]: didn't go through the cut variation by Zaph, I mean
[13:38] The Treeman[3k]: Western players play so different than Asian players
[13:38] JanGret[10k]: that C16 was so quick, Black must have been thinking about that for a while
Move 110
[13:40] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: o.o
[13:40] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: why d5 now?
[13:40] DA WOO[7d]: ho ho
[13:40] ronin3[1k]: it's attack on the cudgel time
[13:41] tekken8[2d]: d5 for forcing moves
[13:41] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Einstein: Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler
Move 111
[13:43] alte_hippe[3k]: Variation: 9
[13:43] JanGret[10k]: This could come to a point where Black runs out of time and loses in the endgame...
Move 112
[13:43] ronin3[1k]: oh no my 5 bucks :O
[13:44] Rocco[1d]: zaphodian, are you pro?
[13:44] Rocco[1d]: you've guessed way too many of these moves correctly
[13:44] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: black is strong at yose so no, JanGret
[13:45] JanGret[10k]: He is the 1981, 90, 93 European Go Champion
[13:45] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: He is just 7d
[13:45] Rocco[1d]: oh, $*!% xD
[13:45] Zaphodian[?]: I am not a pro. I used to be #2735 rating.
[13:46] Zaphodian[?]: With stones on the board, I have a big advantage compared to real life,
[13:47] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: your reading is still good compared to us, poor mortals
[13:47] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Still cut
[13:47] Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, without stones, IRL, it's much less good.
[13:48] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: game over-ish?
[13:48] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: but still good =) you can't fight against ages, even pros can't but you reached a really good level for a western player
[13:48] IkkenR[6k]: Don't say that, this looks like wise and not pretentious world that only good man/woman can think about
Move 114
[13:49] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: is g2 still worth something ?
[13:49] 林峻希[22k]: Variation: No matter what, I'll beat u on Q6 and Q7
[13:49] 林峻希[22k]: Variation: No matter what, I'll beat u on Q6 and Q7
[13:49] 林峻希[22k]: Variation: No matter what, I'll beat u on Q6 and Q7
[13:49] 林峻希[22k]: Variation: No matter what, I'll beat u on Q6 and Q7
[13:49] Zaphodian[?]: Really sitting down and concentrate for 3-4 hours is really hard work.
[13:49] sufjan[3d]: Variation: 10
[13:50] 習近平[14k]: Variation: 衝三小
[13:51] sufjan[3d]: Variation: 11
[13:51] Zaphodian[?]: Basically, most of those dia's are information overload
Move 115
[13:51] Anthe[5k]: accordin g to ai h5 was a BIG mistake...
[13:52] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: power triangle time!
Move 116
[13:53] Rocco[1d]: wuut
[13:53] Anthe[5k]: seems the dragon is dead
[13:53] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Cut and kill
[13:53] 習近平[14k]: Variation: 台灣必將武力統一共匪政權
Move 117
[13:53] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: heh, like i said ~100 moves ago, i still wouldnt feel comfortable with that black stick ^^
Move 118
[13:54] Rocco[1d]: Variation: lol
[13:55] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: 全て無意味
[13:55] bartosz[?]: g1 is big mistake
[13:56] ronin3[1k]: yes
[13:56] Vegetable[5d]: holy balls
[13:56] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: 全て無意味=meaningless nonsense
[13:56] martin97[5d]: should be e2
[13:56] ManiMani24[7k]: thanks random chinese player
Move 121
[13:57] dlpigozzi[4k]: Ko seems a good way to try to get it back
[13:57] Zaphodian[?]: W did not need to accept this ko
Move 122
[13:58] gasana[5d]: ko is always good for the spectators
Move 123
[13:58] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: ohh wow
Move 126
[13:58] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: so now b stick is dead and w's stones on top are split
[13:59] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W's plan
[13:59] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: the fight continues ^^
[13:59] ronin3[1k]: fright*
Move 128
[13:59] Zaphodian[?]: B has to kill W's dragon in the center
[14:00] Ray Anthony[13k]: Newbie question: what's a dragon?
[14:00] ronin3[1k]: a group of stones
[14:00] death_taxes[1k]: multi stone group
[14:00] Ray Anthony[13k]: On 10?
[14:00] Rocco[1d]: a large group..
[14:00] death_taxes[1k]: usually more than 5-10
Move 129
[14:00] Rocco[1d]: often without proper eyes
[14:00] Ray Anthony[13k]: thank you
Move 131
[14:01] death_taxes[1k]: 5 is too small, perhaps even 10, but 20 is fine
Move 132
[14:01] learn2go[1k]: Anyone AI stats at this point?
[14:01] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: j17 k18 feel like bad exhanges for black :/
[14:01] Rocco[1d]: black lost?
[14:01] JanGret[10k]: there is one AI on twitch analysing the game, not that I understand it
[14:02] IkkenR[6k]: link?
[14:02] IkkenR[6k]: ty
Move 134
[14:03] theorist[1d]: h17 looked interesting
[14:03] ManiMani24[7k]: anyone knows the name of the software that stream is using?
[14:03] JanGret[10k]: Seems to be KataGo
[14:04] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W lives
[14:04] ManiMani24[7k]: KataGo is the engine and what is the UI?
[14:04] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W connects
[14:05] herb2077[4k]: maybe Lizzie?
Move 137
[14:06] liso77[?]: it is written there - lizgoban
[14:06] Jolly River[5k]: is B all dead in the bottom=
[14:06] The Treeman[3k]: I think B will resign soon
[14:06] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: jolly, seems so
[14:07] liso77[?]: seems it could be this: https://github.com/kaorahi/lizgoban
Move 140
[14:07] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W wants to live
Move 141
[14:08] The Treeman[3k]: white absolutly win
[14:08] The Treeman[3k]: bot black dead
Move 142
[14:08] JanGret[10k]: does T6 still work @zapho?
[14:09] Rocco[1d]: not after S9 no
Move 144
[14:10] dacat1[7d]: Variation: last hope?
Move 146
[14:10] David_Turman[10k]: Ooops.
Move 147
[14:11] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Finally life
Move 148
[14:11] The Treeman[3k]: white can live. However, I don't see how the bot black will live
Move 149
[14:11] IkkenR[6k]: I feel that black could have killed W
[14:12] The Treeman[3k]: 对杀气不够的吧
[14:12] Zaphodian[?]: How many last straws does a man have?
[14:12] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: so the big black stick died huh
[14:12] Zaphodian[?]: It shouldn't have died
[14:13] Zaphodian[?]: It died out of its own volition
Move 150
[14:13] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: oh so he died in peace, great
[14:13] IkkenR[6k]: Isn't it the basis of life?
Move 151
[14:13] Zaphodian[?]: No no, volition and peace are unlrelated
Move 153
[14:14] The Treeman[3k]: Variation: see this
Move 154
[14:14] The Treeman[3k]: black no time
Move 156
[14:15] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: See that?
Move 157
[14:15] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: black needs to kill something back
[14:15] dacat1[7d]: if this game follows the trajectory of my last one, black's comeback is just beginning
Move 159
[14:15] death_taxes[1k]: :)
Move 160
[14:16] Zaphodian[?]: hahaha...
[14:16] dlpigozzi[4k]: Was ben0 under timepressure?
[14:16] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: looks no hope to win it
Move 161
[14:16] Zaphodian[?]: WOT
Move 162
[14:17] AndriiKravets[1p]: thanks
[14:17] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg!
[14:17] Siasio[?]: Thank you
[14:17] Jolly River[5k]: gg
[14:17] robertmehl[14k]: gg
[14:17] JanGret[10k]: gg
[14:17] Rocco[1d]: ggs
[14:17] Bace3D[9k]: gg
[14:17] Schr0dinger[8k]: gg
[14:17] fightyoats[4d]: gg
[14:17] gasana[5d]: gg
[14:17] isibboi[5k]: gg
[14:17] alte_hippe[3k]: gg
[14:18] Zaphodian[?]: Thanks for the game guys
[14:19] dacat1[7d]: gg
[14:19] Siasio[?]: maybe I could try to get K3 in sente somewhere earlier in the game
[14:19] Siasio[?]: but I was always worried it's not sente
[14:21] alte_hippe[3k]: is the chat visible during the game?
[14:22] IkkenR[6k]: nop
[14:22] JanGret[10k]: no it is not
[14:23] liso77[?]: so rematch tommorow :)

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