Unranked
Rules: Japanese
White wins by Resignation
dacat1[7d]: have a nice game ^^
Move 1
artem92[2p]: have a good game
Move 3
sithari[2d]: gg both
sithari[2d]: may force be with you
fightyoats[4d]: gg to both
fightyoats[4d]: but i'm rooting for oscar ;)
Move 4
sithari[2d]: I hope crazy game by him
Move 5
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: quater-final of grand prix finale!
Fredda91[7d]: Let's see how Artem can hold up against the beast
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: hehe, gotta cheer for dacat here ^___^
dlpigozzi[4k]: boom
ronin3[1k]: feels weird seeing him kibitzing with us just two hours ago :D
Move 6
nidza[?]: artem feeling the pressure? 7min on d12..
TomiP[3d]: yeah it's almost like he can teleport from kibitzing to playing on his computer
ronin3[1k]: uhh high pincer so posh
dlpigozzi[4k]: another black resurrection expected?
Move 7
smog山人[1k]: keima and cut for funsies?
ronin3[1k]: black not messing around :O
wxh100[13k]: This might make white stronger
wxh100[13k]: 3-3 invasion
xxchemotoxx[?]: no twitch prediction before this game?
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: it will make white stronger ^^
Move 10
gasana[5d]: cats do have 9 lives...
Move 11
The Treeman[3k]: 妖刀都出来了
Move 13
dlpigozzi[4k]: in spain only 7
Move 14
gasana[5d]: ah, but still enough, he only used 2 in this tournament^^
Rocco[1d]: Variation: why not press in sente first then go C3
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: cause push and cut
Move 16
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: Variation: for trickies ^___^
The Treeman[3k]: whiteleads?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: too soon to say
The Treeman[3k]: 哈哈. I know
dlpigozzi[4k]: w +0.2
The Treeman[3k]: I like white's Demon knife
Move 17
dlpigozzi[4k]: depends on the 3 kos
Move 18
dlpigozzi[4k]: :P
ronin3[1k]: i would have G3 before stretching :(
Rocco[1d]: who's opening do you guys prefer?
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: w + 0,3 says gnugo
dlpigozzi[4k]: I said it by chance, not bad my prediction
Move 19
fightyoats[4d]: i prefer white's ngl
fightyoats[4d]: just cus i don't like taking the 3-3 this early
TomiP[3d]: KoBa I only know that move from the cosmic style test, lol
Welvang[1p]: Hey, in about 20-30min i'll start a review of this game on EGF Twitch account, don't miss it out !
Move 20
ronin3[1k]: \o/
dlpigozzi[4k]: nice tanguy
Welvang[1p]: There will be streams all over the week
dlpigozzi[4k]: see u there
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: awesome!
Welvang[1p]: thats the good news
shinuito[1k]: |_o_|
ronin3[1k]: again that arcane shape! w is unbeatable now
carmelcake[12k]: hi everyone
wxh100[13k]: Lol
Rocco[1d]: when are the grand finals played?
wxh100[13k]: Variation: Variation
Move 21
dlpigozzi[4k]: next weekend
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: new weeks saturday
Rocco[1d]: ilya vs ?
Rocco[1d]: :o
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: games on 1&2 on sat, game 3 on sun if needed
wxh100[13k]: Variation: Continuation
wxh100[13k]: Variation: Continuation
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i think that ilya vs artem or ilya vs andrii would be safe bets ^^
ronin3[1k]: I can feel the strength in white stones
Move 22
seequ[1k]: C13 is one of those moves you just kjnow jeff would hate
wxh100[13k]: Appearently White is leading
wxh100[13k]: Obviously, it's a good move
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: b o
tekken8[2d]: next move anyone?
wxh100[13k]: Variation: Contnuation
carmelcake[12k]: sorry miss clicked
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i wanna jump e10 now
Move 23
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: to get out and surround w
tekken8[2d]: i guess black is preparing for e10
WaterAngel[3d]: im sorry but who is decat1?
wxh100[13k]: a 5d player of course
dlpigozzi[4k]: Oscar Vazquez
wxh100[13k]: ?
TomiP[3d]: 6d
wxh100[13k]: You know?????
The Treeman[3k]: I perfer white now, black has two 孤棋
Move 24
WaterAngel[3d]: i ask because s.o said he is the beast that artem has to contain
The Treeman[3k]: white only need to 治一块孤棋
WaterAngel[3d]: it means he is as strong as professional
Move 25
carmelcake[12k]: white needs to take this chance to stabilize his stone
carmelcake[12k]: c13 d12
carmelcake[12k]: can he?
💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: dacat is studying hard to become a professional ^^
WaterAngel[3d]: thanks for the link Koba
Celebrir[2d]: It is like the hype that an underdog nobody expects could steal the win WaterAngel ;)
The Treeman[3k]: Is the best human go player in europe?
seequ[1k]: he is quite close to being the strongest european amateur, if nog that already
seequ[1k]: if not*
WaterAngel[3d]: yeah i got it now :)) i will cheer up for Black
dlpigozzi[4k]: tengen
Welvang[1p]: maybe one day, he's still improving
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: white option????
Welvang[1p]: among the top amateurs in europe, some have stopped studying go
Welvang[1p]: it can make a difference :)
Move 28
ronin3[1k]: fight
Rocco[1d]: how much studying does it take to become pro?
The Treeman[3k]: depends whether you have talents or not?
Move 29
WaterAngel[3d]: to be a pro i think talent is not so important
WaterAngel[3d]: but a good pro teacher
The Treeman[3k]: lol alpahgo zero only self studied like a month
WaterAngel[3d]: and hard work!
Welvang[1p]: thats the difference between tsuitsui and hikaru tho
Welvang[1p]: a good feeling with the game is necessary, if you don't call it talent :)
Move 30
The Treeman[3k]: Talents matters.
Rocco[1d]: a good brain is required
ronin3[1k]: is later C17 an item?
Rocco[1d]: I'm just like curious how much studying takes place on a daily basis in order to stay competitive.
carmelcake[12k]: probably every hour they have
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: can he get out
seequ[1k]: this position looks super annoying for B :D
ronin3[1k]: I hope next movie is not resign
seequ[1k]: it's not
ronin3[1k]: I can't get that black did not play G3
Rocco[1d]: isn't there sense in exchaing E16 for E17 here?
Celebrir[2d]: I also prefer W, but I don't think it is close to resigning yet
Move 35
Celebrir[2d]: G3 is to small I believe, where small of course is not really small but relativly small to other moves
Rocco[1d]: its big, but not urgent?
WaterAngel[3d]: you could say it's big but not urgent
WaterAngel[3d]: it ends up in gote
ronin3[1k]: yes I mean playing it earlier before defending the upper left gruop
sithari[1d]: is this sente?
sithari[1d]: because f18 or why?
sithari[1d]: W can't h13 now?
ronin3[1k]: no there is some squeeze by black if ignore
Move 36
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: this
sithari[1d]: yes, but squeeze does not kill
Move 37
ronin3[1k]: yeah but it was annoying enough
sithari[1d]: I think h13 would kill B but maybe not :)
Rocco[1d]: black seems to be keeping up nicely
WaterAngel[3d]: Variation: 4
Move 38
ronin3[1k]: another night stick game
WaterAngel[3d]: F17 pretty much kills 4 W's stone
Rocco[1d]: H17?
ronin3[1k]: mini night stick this time
sithari[1d]: yes, I thought f17 g18 but it was ladder
Move 40
sithari[1d]: g10 direction of attack later?
dlpigozzi[4k]: kata likes E11
sithari[1d]: n16?
sithari[1d]: n15
Celebrir[2d]: N15 seems like a risky fight to me
sithari[1d]: yes but Oscar can't win in a non crazy game imo
RikSagara[1d]: what about K15?
Celebrir[2d]: Variation: My first instinct is something like this
sithari[1d]: yes I thought about it before n15
dlpigozzi[4k]: k15 is a very good move
carmelcake[12k]: if he can connect under neath p18
Move 43
ronin3[1k]: if k15 W just sac L15, get stronger and then attack black on the left
sithari[1d]: this will be a short game
ronin3[1k]: ok why has other ideas
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: ?
Move 44
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: ?
Move 46
ronin3[1k]: yeah bye gg
tekken8[2d]: kinda like whites position here
carmelcake[12k]: how does e11 look
tymak[2d]: can b afford to sacrifice and try attack P17 stone?
ronin3[1k]: it looks like sacrificing 7 stones
RikSagara[1d]: @ronin3 not so fast I think
ronin3[1k]: tymac white has an annoying attachment in the 33
Move 48
carmelcake[12k]: f10
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: ?
ronin3[1k]: maybe c12 lol
Gomer1[3k]: b E11
carmelcake[12k]: e11 was mentioned by twitch bot eairler
Move 50
carmelcake[12k]: in the game
Move 53
RikSagara[1d]: Lets get ready to rumble)
carmelcake[12k]: exciting
hypergeometric[5k]: isn't black E15 definitely dead if W F10 now
hypergeometric[5k]: oh it's a capturing race
hypergeometric[5k]: with D12
hypergeometric[5k]: but black needs to protect F12 then
carmelcake[12k]: true
Move 59
carmelcake[12k]: sorry i go down so far reviewing i dont always see theremoves
Tomato-Go[1d]: Black's situation is very good. Does anyone agree with me?
Move 64
hypergeometric[5k]: really ?
tekken8[2d]: yeah black seems better
RikSagara[1d]: I agree
hypergeometric[5k]: the black group looks like it's dying no ?
hypergeometric[5k]: but otherwise on the board it looks better for black
carmelcake[12k]: black can eat at inside stones
tekken8[2d]: Variation: black lives if white 2
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: how about this
Gomer1[3k]: b a13?
tekken8[2d]: can still kill white with a13
Tomato-Go[1d]: Now let's see who's got quick dagger. Dagger dagger dagger.
ApolloGo[1k]: PogChamp
hypergeometric[5k]: carmelcake : white will never play B13 because A13 gives life ...
carmelcake[12k]: okay thanks hyper
Move 65
nidza[?]: g13 ouch
hypergeometric[5k]: what happens if white E14 now ? Can black get something after cutting at K12 ?
S_Alexander[3d]: wow
tekken8[2d]: can capture j11 or j14
The Treeman[3k]: It seems black is winning
tekken8[2d]: im curious about the next move here by white
NicelyManifest[1d]: My simple view is that D9 is needed as a start to defend the left side group
Cassis[3d]: d8? c8?
Move 66
Ardargoz[2k]: I think the cut at k12 would kill group either at j14 or g10. I think the j11 group would be fine
The Treeman[3k]: It seems like black is advatange
ronin3[1k]: ok white has chosen mutual life
hypergeometric[5k]: but now black has to make eyes right
Ardargoz[2k]: better than choosing death lol
hypergeometric[5k]: true
hypergeometric[5k]: And then it's unclear to me if it's worth saving the C10 stones
Mardipaev[4d]: ouch, i do believe A13 works for white
Ardargoz[2k]: Maybe sacrifice c10 group to attack d4 group.
ronin3[1k]: point wiseit's just 20 points but creates the problem of saving b10 for black, hyper
gisel88.gm[?]: lets say bl lives and white captures more or less left side - black can surround top 2 white stones.
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: something like this?
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: something like this?
NicelyManifest[1d]: I was just looking at the same
NicelyManifest[1d]: Variation: Here
Move 67
gisel88.gm[?]: white 1 at 3 immediately - then white lives and black have to add a stone to live
NicelyManifest[1d]: W A11?
alkar[3d]: B11
TryToLearnGo[2d]: H4
TryToLearnGo[2d]: H14
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: here
TryToLearnGo[2d]: G14 lol
tekken8[2d]: Variation: maybe this
Move 68
carmelcake[12k]: Variation: ?
Move 69
bigwizard[8k]: hes saving them!
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: niet realistisch
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Death looms
gisel88.gm[?]: I dont know how black can live after g14 now
tekken8[2d]: $*!%
kendfrey[10k]: d13, no?
akas123[2k]: w f7
Rocco[1d]: gg?
gisel88.gm[?]: Maybe G14 A14 A13 B14?
Polonian[5k]: c14 I think is the move for black if white playes g14
tekken8[2d]: oh i see
Move 70
akas123[2k]: wow i wasright !!!!
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Wishful thinking
Move 71
Polonian[5k]: akas123 you are 2p clearly :)
gisel88.gm[?]: Zaphodian - not wishful if black is alive :)
akas123[2k]: w g3?
Zaphodian[?]: More variations
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: other variations
Gomer1[3k]: w g14?
Move 72
alte_hippe[3k]: Variation: 5
ApolloGo[1k]: Variation: dont save that stone alte_hippe
ApolloGo[1k]: white gets sente if black takes e13
truxene1[?]: Variation: 6
Move 74
truxene1[?]: Variation: 定式
Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Black's group alive?
Move 77
RedRadish[8k]: why doesn't G14 work for white to kill black's whole group?
akas123[2k]: now g14
Polonian[5k]: according to commentator, it's a ko and white doesn't have big enough ko threats at the moment
Zaphodian[?]: @redradish, we analysed that above
Move 78
RikSagara[1d]: @RedRadish G14- D13 - H14 - C14
Move 80
Zaphodian[?]: B just wants to be sure
bigwizard[8k]: where are you watching commentary polonian?
Move 81
unusedname[1k]: @riksagara F14?
Move 82
RedRadish[8k]: ah I see thank you @RikSagara
Polonian[5k]: that was really nice for dacat1 to get sente there
akas123[2k]: g14 still can kill
Move 83
Ardargoz[2k]: akas, d13 is life then
akas123[2k]: how?
ApolloGo[1k]: Variation: are you sure akas123
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Variation: Still a ko
RikSagara[1d]: @unusedname b faster to eat C11
unusedname[1k]: ty
Move 87
pynxy[6d]: wasn't O14 like much better for black?
Move 88
AndriiKravets[1p]: q13 is strange. b shoukd calculate variation before q 13 and now play fast
Move 95
isibboi[5k]: Wonder if b can kill white P17 group
pynxy[6d]: Black is playing impressively well
Move 99
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Looks like a ko.
RikSagara[1d]: noooo
alte_hippe[3k]: white developed a clandestine mojo around m7
pynxy[6d]: there is still cut at H11
alte_hippe[3k]: sacrify
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: There's also g3.
akas123[2k]: w n13?
pynxy[6d]: I prefer black here
pynxy[6d]: But hey, I'm no expert...
seequ[1k]: black certainly managed to make the game not-terribad
Move 100
seequ[1k]: unless that works?
Move 102
pynxy[6d]: a5 would've been cocky as hell
Ufe[1d]: dacat once again with 20 sec
Move 105
IkkenR[6k]: is it often that player are out of time?
Move 106
banannaphone[7k]: only when there's little time left
ApolloGo[1k]: they are never out of time until they are
alte_hippe[3k]: :)
Move 107
Cassis[5d]: stong
Move 108
malishevserafym[1k]: cool
Move 110
banannaphone[7k]: hey do you guys think I could beat artem92?
fightyoats[4d]: probably
Move 111
pynxy[6d]: with a baseball bat
fightyoats[4d]: lmao
banannaphone[7k]: lol
ApolloGo[1k]: train hard banannaphone
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: revenge for the deads
ApolloGo[1k]: and hope :D
banannaphone[7k]: need alott of hope lol
Saddharmapundarika[7k]: q4 coming?
Move 113
banannaphone[7k]: that's something I would do so probably not
Move 114
pynxy[6d]: I prefer white here...
Move 117
Daimo[3k]: I prefer white there
Move 119
Trevoke[7k]: I prefer white _everywhere_ ! (someone had to)
Move 120
Daimo[3k]: Haha yes I was waiting for that. Thank you Trevoke :D
Move 125
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: Is there no byo-yomi?
Trevoke[7k]: Fischer time
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: ohh, right
Move 126
Trevoke[7k]: W is playing really patiently
Move 128
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: W got time.
Move 129
pynxy[6d]: overplay
Daimo[3k]: Is O 18 group settled?
Free Tibet[1k]: Dead as disco
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: is dead
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: p6 looks more natural for black
Move 130
pynxy[6d]: there is still something there tho
Daimo[3k]: Still dead?
Daimo[3k]: lol
Move 131
Rocco[1d]: noobs
Daimo[3k]: or is that just a time move
Rocco[1d]: :P
smog山人[1k]: disco never dies
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: jajaj
Move 132
ApolloGo[1k]: disco disco party party
Move 137
Cassis[5d]: watch e9
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: p19, veridis quo? =)
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: o14 not scary ?
pynxy[6d]: watch N14
Move 138
Free Tibet[1k]: shape
Move 142
pynxy[6d]: b will try to kill F7 group
Cassis[5d]: looks like the end
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: I don;t se how he could tho
Move 143
eehoyminoy[7k]: why is n14 big?
Trevoke[7k]: Now W just J6 or something like that?
ContinuumHypothesis[1k]: n14 cut's black
Trevoke[7k]: eehoy - I think n14 kills P13 (what does B do after n14 -- and can W just play m13?)
Move 145
Free Tibet[1k]: w 60
pynxy[6d]: black collapsed
Move 146
Free Tibet[1k]: Can't count b
eehoyminoy[7k]: if B @ m13 then W @ o13 i guess?
Move 147
Rocco[1d]: how did black die to the left?
Rocco[1d]: ._.
Daimo[3k]: time pressure
Move 149
pynxy[6d]: w can pass now and b couldn't catch up
Move 151
eehoyminoy[7k]: oh god the eye space :(
Move 153
N-Gon[8k]: why not L3?
Move 154
eehoyminoy[7k]: mb influence towards r7?
Move 155
eehoyminoy[7k]: thanks thundergod!
tekken8[2d]: does white n14 work?
ThunderGod[7d]: I dont know,I'm lazy to read now
eehoyminoy[7k]: lol
tekken8[2d]: thats a first
pynxy[6d]: Variation: 124
Move 159
ThunderGod[7d]: what if white start with p16?
Move 161
eehoyminoy[7k]: then black bamboo joint @ n14?
Move 162
ThunderGod[7d]: tko for life?
ThunderGod[7d]: Or the semai is the same?
Move 164
ThunderGod[7d]: But even the semedori is good enough for white
Move 167
ThunderGod[7d]: Now its time to push the magic button
Rocco[1d]: no need
Move 170
ThunderGod[7d]: Well true,Artemn still can fall asleep
eehoyminoy[7k]: this is so painful :(
Rocco[1d]: :D
Move 172
Free Tibet[1k]: Pros never sleep
Move 173
XYOON[3k]: S3?
Move 174
eehoyminoy[7k]: hell ya free tibet !!!!!!!!!!! (and kashmir)
ThunderGod[7d]: dont lose by time now
Move 178
Aizgo[?]: white's leading by a lot
Move 179
pynxy[6d]: artem the ruthless
ThunderGod[7d]: almost working
Move 180
Trevoke[7k]: Time management is a real problem
Move 181
malishevserafym[1k]: white desd
Daimo[3k]: naw
ThunderGod[7d]: nope
Ardargoz[2k]: black cannot cut
Move 182
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Variation: 125
Move 185
malishevserafym[1k]: se? yes? live
Move 186
Аlрhа - 1 5 2[?]: Hehe
Move 188
ThunderGod[7d]: desperation has a new name
eehoyminoy[7k]: omg
Move 191
pynxy[6d]: w can live now on the upper side
Move 196
ThunderGod[7d]: give him time
Move 199
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: pverplay
Move 200
DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: overplay*
Move 201
seequ[1k]: the $*!%?
Move 202
eehoyminoy[7k]: ya same
errno_h[3d]: Variation: 126
Move 203
ThunderGod[7d]: you can do it
ThunderGod[7d]: push it
Move 207
eehoyminoy[7k]: ok.... i think i see where B is going...
Cassis[5d]: interesting
Move 210
Saddharmapundarika[7k]: going to resign?
Move 212
ThunderGod[7d]: nah,ego is too big to do that
Trevoke[7k]: If he were going to resign he would have done it a long time ago
Move 215
seequ[1k]: it's not about ego, black has to play if there is game left to be played
Move 216
ThunderGod[7d]: if
Move 217
eehoyminoy[7k]: so B is just trying to see how the endgame plays out, or actually thinks a win is possible?
ThunderGod[7d]: black is just hoping for a mistake
Trevoke[7k]: Looks like B is trying to make the complicated to get something he shouldn't
Saddharmapundarika[7k]: win is not possible
Move 218
tekken8[2d]: either or
ThunderGod[7d]: yaaaay
ThunderGod[7d]: found it
Daimo[3k]: gg
artem92[2p]: thank you
dacat1[7d]: thx :)
seequ[1k]: ggs
alte_hippe[3k]: gg
Trevoke[7k]: gg
ThunderGod[7d]: rekt
Ufe[1d]: gg
eehoyminoy[7k]: gg
Anthe[6k]: puh, congrats, very strong from white
fightyoats[4d]: gg
orcrist[4k]: Wow
January 25, 2021
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