Game Finished

Move 244

AndriiKravets[1p]

4 captures

Siasio[1p]

5 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

III

Processing

White wins by Resignation

Reviews

Welvang[1p] - view

Move 0

January 23, 2021

[12:31] AndriiKravets[1p]: Have a nice game

[12:31] Siasio[?]: Have a nice game!

Move 1

[12:31] Welvang[3d]: Review: ##602318

Move 16

[12:34] bobsof[2d]: Let the games begin!

Move 18

[12:36] Kamakiri[2k]: AI will become angry for not playing O5 immediately :P

[12:36] Kamakiri[2k]: P5*

[12:37] ronin3[1k]: will you stream, Welvang?

[12:37] ronin3[1k]: would so look forward to that :)

[12:39] Welvang[1p]: yes

[12:39] Welvang[1p]: The stream will start in 30min I think

[12:40] ronin3[1k]: thank you!

Move 19

[12:40] robertmehl[14k]: thx welvang

Move 22

[12:44] mondrain[4d]: nice Alphago move

Move 26

[12:47] gosei[?]: aha this is still played?

Move 27

[12:48] ronin3[1k]: unexpected :O

[12:48] siinsticker@yahoo.com[1k]: :D

Move 28

[12:48] mondrain[4d]: w trying to make b overconcentrated?

Move 29

[12:49] ronin3[1k]: hane or corner?

[12:49] gosei[?]: white wants his side not to be flat imnot sure if this is good

[12:49] koksik[2d]: white can tenuki ;)

[12:50] koksik[2d]: my guess is r3 ;p

[12:50] ronin3[1k]: flat like bad sparkling water?

[12:50] gosei[?]: haha:D

[12:50] ronin3[1k]: i call P14

[12:50] koksik[2d]: ok p14 makes a lot of sense too ;p

[12:50] siinsticker@yahoo.com[1k]: (^_^)

Move 30

[12:52] ronin3[1k]: gosei wins

[12:52] gosei[?]: did leela change toold school again?

Move 32

[12:56] guest341[2d]: is w leela?

Move 33

[12:57] gosei[?]: thats deep

[12:57] gosei[?]: you are right he is not

[12:58] siinsticker@yahoo.com[1k]: thx

[12:58] gosei[?]: i meant this gamecould played 50 years ago

[12:58] guest341[2d]: sorry i must e missing some context, why were you talking about leela then :D

[12:59] Zaphodian[?]: This game could not have been played 50 years ago, at all.

[13:00] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: my first instinct is that this corner is kinda horrible for white o.o

[13:00] ronin3[1k]: well black has eight more stones

Move 34

[13:01] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: only 3 ^^

[13:01] gosei[?]: white wanted black tocome sincee he cant profit much, but it depends how they handle

[13:01] koksik[2d]: KoBa in exchange white got H5 and Q9 :)

[13:01] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: but yeah

[13:01] guest341[2d]: yes i don't think ogs was here 50 years ago

[13:01] ronin3[1k]: maybe not even the EGF

[13:01] gosei[?]: i admit that makes sense:D

Move 35

[13:02] Zaphodian[?]: I can't tell you that, but I have played go for 50 years.

[13:02] guest341[2d]: why p14 it's not even empty

[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: Imagine W cutting at P14

[13:03] koksik[2d]: to have no aji and cuts ;)

[13:03] guest341[2d]: ye i don't see it being too bad

[13:03] koksik[2d]: no aji - we can attack more freely

[13:03] guest341[2d]: i mean isn't it a bit slow

[13:03] Welvang[1p]: Hi, the commentary of this game will start soon on twitch

[13:03] Welvang[1p]: come and enjoy :) https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

Move 36

[13:03] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: thank you for commenting tanguy!

[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W takes the intiative

[13:03] siinsticker@yahoo.com[1k]: (>_<)

Move 38

[13:04] guest341[2d]: Zaphodian 3 at q12 is too easy for w?

[13:04] guest341[2d]: b doesn't need to connet that that urgently

[13:04] Zaphodian[?]: where do you wanna play instead?

[13:05] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Alternative?

[13:06] guest341[2d]: yes that's clsoer to what i thoguht that or sometihng around n12 right away

[13:06] guest341[2d]: but w gets out just fine anyway

[13:06] guest341[2d]: (i mean p12 is my first thought as well)

[13:06] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: follow up

[13:07] guest341[2d]: oh so you think it jsut reverts, ok i see

Move 39

[13:08] guest341[2d]: what if b just m13 here then o13 p12 is sot of ok for b as well

[13:08] gosei[?]: n17 seems painful

[13:09] guest341[2d]: i will not doubt you, gosei, ince you're jsut one gen away from very strong pro

[13:09] Zaphodian[?]: not really - W just defends at N17

[13:09] guest341[2d]: maybe one evolution stone or soething

[13:09] guest341[2d]: Zaphodian, are you 2d?

[13:09] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W should just cut

[13:09] Zaphodian[?]: No, I am not

[13:09] guest341[2d]: o ok

[13:10] guest341[2d]: i thoguht your username was familair, my bad

[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: But I did beat Siasio the last time we played.

[13:10] guest341[2d]: :O

[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: Was about 1-2 years ago.

[13:10] siinsticker@yahoo.com[1k]: :D

[13:10] koksik[2d]: Not sure if it is so good for white

[13:11] koksik[2d]: the cut

[13:11] Zaphodian[?]: It's fine

[13:11] gosei[?]: n17 please

[13:11] nidza[?]: i would have played m16 at m15

[13:11] nidza[?]: no cuts or danger

[13:11] Kamakiri[2k]: A cap is rather slower and usually moyo oriented. I don't think white can much by giving black a scure J17

[13:12] koksik[2d]: how do you give sequences here? :D

[13:12] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B takes the initiative

[13:13] nidza[?]: i feel white o17 was stronger than b m17, so ataching isnt in white interest

[13:13] Zaphodian[?]: Nikola, have you considered M16 at L16?

[13:13] nidza[?]: i didnt, that would be the best if working

[13:14] nidza[?]: m16 is the softest move is my point

[13:15] Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, I think M15 is 'softer'. But maybe I don;t understand what you mean by soft.

[13:16] nidza[?]: m16 helps black m17 more than m15 does

[13:16] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: White considering this

[13:16] nidza[?]: m15= attacking black. m16= both live

[13:16] nidza[?]: is my thinking

Move 40

[13:17] koksik[2d]: so you say m15 better than m16? after just m15 and black peeps n16 the shape is terrible ;D

[13:17] Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, maybe I would use the word 'more severe'.

[13:17] Zaphodian[?]: But I agree with your thinking

[13:18] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Follow up - point is W NEEDS to get 13.

[13:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B lives easily

[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Tanguy starts streaming anyway: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

Move 46

[13:25] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: 1 for 2 exchange makes the ko at A/B less costly for W

Move 55

[13:33] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: alternative, hard to say what is better

Move 60

[13:38] Rocco[2d]: Variation: Why does black connect here?

Move 62

[13:38] Celebrir[2d]: Variation: Is something like this bad_

Move 64

[13:38] Rocco[2d]: Miai to capture Q13 in a ladder if white cuts. And he's not in real trouble in the corner.

[13:40] Celebrir[2d]: How big is C17 now ?

[13:40] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Look, mama, without hands!

[13:41] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: making local life

[13:41] Celebrir[2d]: That looksd nice

[13:42] Zaphodian[?]: W will undoubtedly play at D11

Move 65

[13:43] Rocco[2d]: still D11

[13:43] dlpigozzi[4k]: now is a must

[13:44] dlpigozzi[4k]: B for the peep at J12

[13:44] Steinbeisser[2d]: why not e12 ?

[13:44] Rocco[2d]: what does e12 achieve?

Move 66

[13:45] dlpigozzi[4k]: wow

[13:45] dlpigozzi[4k]: thats long

Move 67

[13:46] dlpigozzi[4k]: B has to live

[13:47] dlpigozzi[4k]: next W move can cancel the opportunity of E17

[13:47] Rocco[2d]: Variation: ?

Move 70

[13:50] dlpigozzi[4k]: kata is anxious for G16

[13:51] Rocco[2d]: so is tanguy :p

Move 72

[13:52] pynxy[6d]: seems like black is doing just fine

Move 76

[13:53] liquid[6d]: g16 vital point

[13:55] malishevserafym[1k]: g12

[13:55] malishevserafym[1k]: j12*

[13:56] Tichy[3d]: g16 looks more important than anything if black doesn't want migraine pills soon

[13:56] Rocco[1d]: nah E17 for black locally

[13:56] Rocco[1d]: G16 for white

Move 77

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: yeah stared myself blind at it

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: you called it

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: ;)

[13:57] Rocco[1d]: not me

[13:57] Rocco[1d]: tanguy on the stream

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: oh

[13:57] Rocco[1d]: and zaphodian before that

[13:57] pynxy[6d]: does it work tho?

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: hell if I know

[13:57] Tichy[3d]: F16 now?

[13:58] Rocco[1d]: bare minimum it settles black

[13:58] pynxy[6d]: F17 worked for sure

Move 78

[13:59] Tichy[3d]: hey I called it lol

[13:59] pynxy[6d]: we should have bets here

[14:00] Tichy[3d]: not like I understood his thinking behind it but

[14:00] Rocco[1d]: if black lives to the side

[14:00] Rocco[1d]: his other group might take damage to eye shape

[14:00] Rocco[1d]: maybe.

[14:01] Tichy[3d]: when I dropped into this I thought it looked horrible for white, now pretty sure he's winning

Move 79

[14:01] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W 4 is a tesuji

Move 81

[14:02] Rocco[1d]: black settles

[14:02] Rocco[1d]: i guess

[14:04] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W salvages his corner

Move 82

[14:05] Tichy[3d]: knew that move

[14:05] Tichy[3d]: was gonna suggest

[14:07] Zaphodian[?]: I suggested it above. But you really have to read it out

[14:07] Tichy[3d]: I'm quite slow so :)

[14:08] Tichy[3d]: Variation: doesnt seem to help black

Move 89

[14:10] Tichy[3d]: oh he went with that other option

[14:11] Tichy[3d]: are there any good invades around say M4 or so

[14:11] Tichy[3d]: invades reducers pick your terminology

[14:12] Rocco[1d]: is D8 a thing?

Move 90

[14:12] Tichy[3d]: lol

[14:12] Tichy[3d]: ofc

[14:12] Tichy[3d]: M4

[14:12] JanGret[11k]: You called it

[14:12] Zaphodian[?]: I like W

Move 92

[14:13] Tichy[3d]: yea

[14:14] Tichy[3d]: black whole lot of stones for no territory

Move 95

[14:14] Tichy[3d]: ofc that comes with type of game but w better off

Move 99

[14:14] Tichy[3d]: looks like just getting worse too

Move 100

[14:16] Tichy[3d]: that move looked weird to me

[14:16] Tichy[3d]: but now when I see it

[14:16] Tichy[3d]: I get it

Move 109

[14:22] Tichy[3d]: Variation: 14

Move 111

[14:24] Tichy[3d]: k white won this

[14:25] Tichy[3d]: or guess premature

[14:25] Tichy[3d]: I think I start to get P10 now

Move 112

[14:25] Tichy[3d]: J12 now

[14:26] Tichy[3d]: counter white moyo in center

Move 116

[14:29] Sadiker[?]: s8

Move 126

[14:33] Zaphodian[?]: ohhhh, this is so painful

[14:34] Zaphodian[?]: suddenly, B is ahead

[14:34] JanGret[11k]: :(

Move 130

[14:36] Tichy[3d]: wait am I getting blind now

Move 135

[14:37] Tichy[3d]: yea I was

Move 137

[14:38] Tichy[3d]: wtf happened

Move 139

[14:40] hypergeometric[5k]: what do you mean

Move 140

[14:40] Sadiker[?]: b3 too slow?

[14:41] Tichy[3d]: that's a huge reversal

Move 142

[14:42] Tichy[3d]: white's win % must have dropped by 30% in 10-20 moves

[14:42] David_Turman[11k]: Looks better for black? I really can't say.

Move 145

[14:45] Tichy[3d]: now it looks better for white again

Move 146

[14:45] bartosz[?]: B +2

Move 149

[14:47] Tichy[3d]: J12

[14:47] Tichy[3d]: profit no risk move sente

Move 151

[14:48] Tichy[3d]: or no

[14:48] Tichy[3d]: thatd been reverse sente too

Move 154

[14:50] The Treeman[3k]: N11 top whit almost dead

[14:51] The Treeman[3k]: or ko live

Move 155

[14:51] The Treeman[3k]: Variation: top ko live

Move 157

[14:51] The Treeman[3k]: or

Move 158

[14:52] Zaphodian[?]: It looks like B is blowing it

Move 160

[14:53] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W just captures

Move 173

[14:57] The Treeman[3k]: 这是系棋

Move 179

[14:59] yanrensai[9k]: 好棋

Move 180

[15:00] XYOON[3k]: Variation: 15

Move 181

[15:00] The Treeman[3k]: 半木胜负

Move 183

[15:01] Tichy[3d]: not a whole lot of territory without stones on it

Move 184

[15:02] Tichy[3d]: not making sense of this at all now

Move 196

[15:04] The Treeman[3k]: black wins

[15:05] alte_hippe[3k]: why?

[15:05] The Treeman[3k]: whie resign soon

Move 201

[15:05] The Treeman[3k]: white dont have enough terriroty

Move 202

[15:06] bartosz[?]: white is ahead

Move 205

[15:06] XYOON[3k]: Variation: 16

Move 208

[15:07] The Treeman[3k]: yea. White adead. I made mistakes

Move 209

[15:08] XYOON[3k]: Variation: 17

[15:08] The Treeman[3k]: black resignsoon

Move 210

[15:08] hypergeometric[5k]: B7 is semi no ?

[15:08] hypergeometric[5k]: seki *

Move 214

[15:09] hypergeometric[5k]: Variation: seki ?

Move 216

[15:09] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: gote seki

[15:09] XYOON[3k]: Variation: 18

Move 217

[15:09] code9[5d]: Why not q11 cut?

Move 223

[15:14] alte_hippe[3k]: Variation: 19

Move 237

[15:18] hypergeometric[5k]: why didn't black took the seki ?

Move 238

[15:18] pynxy[6d]: he wanted to lose the game

Move 244

[15:19] AndriiKravets[1p]: thanks

[15:19] JanGret[11k]: good game

[15:20] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg!

[15:20] alte_hippe[3k]: gg

[15:20] hypergeometric[5k]: gg

[15:20] David_Turman[11k]: Wow! What a game!

[15:20] Siasio[?]: Thank you!

[15:20] David_Turman[11k]: Thank you to both players.

[15:26] Gacek[5k]: GG

[15:42] B2 Bomber[2d]: This game had analysis board enabled.

[15:42] B2 Bomber[2d]: Maybe disable it for EGF ranked tournament games?

[15:43] B2 Bomber[2d]: tbh it should be disabled by default