Game Finished

Move 173

Siasio[9k]

3 captures

artem92[2p]

0 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

Black wins by Resignation

Reviews

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Move 0

January 26, 2021

[12:06] Siasio[?]: Have a nice game!

Move 1

[12:07] artem92[2p]: have a nice game

Move 2

[12:07] Sadiker[?]: Siasio \o/

[12:07] robertmehl[14k]: good luck, siasio!

Move 5

[12:09] wxh100[13k]: Variation: A

[12:09] wxh100[13k]: Variation: A continued

Move 7

[12:12] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: semi-finals of grand prix finale! https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html

[12:13] ronin3[1k]: Tanguy calls this a "stylish shimari" if i'm not mistaken!

[12:14] tekken8[1d]: white seems ahead

[12:14] ronin3[1k]: very cunning, btw. if white takes the second shimari, black will get a massive moyo on the right

[12:15] BYT519[1d]: lol

[12:15] BYT519[1d]: so many joksters ^^

[12:15] mikuu[10k]: hi

[12:15] guy.avn96[2k]: I honestly took the bait

[12:15] guy.avn96[2k]: goddamit

[12:16] JanGret[9k]: that is why white is taking so long to consider his move?

[12:16] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: white has many options

[12:17] OndraKruml[?]: come on o15

Move 8

[12:17] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: Variation: so many possibilities

[12:17] BYT519[1d]: O15 lol

Move 9

[12:18] ronin3[1k]: omg! W be like, am not afraid of you

[12:18] gojigs[4d]: usually i need time for starting moves to find into the game and to calm down from the day and really get focus for the game

[12:18] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i cant remember when i saw last 4 shimaris in first 8 moves ^^

Move 10

[12:18] BYT519[1d]: it's not typical with the more aggressive way of playing, true ^^

[12:18] ronin3[1k]: black should have played there (or thereabouts)

[12:19] ys3[3d]: old school thinking would say that B playing on right is quite large but since AI its become less desirable to do so

[12:19] ys3[3d]: AI probably prefers k3 over a 10 move

[12:19] BYT519[1d]: K3 also makes O4 much less effective

[12:19] 譚博約[?]: <Message too long>

[12:19] ys3[3d]: but the margins between the 2 moves likely isnt large enough to matter much

[12:20] ronin3[1k]: the game is ruined for me now

Move 11

[12:20] ys3[3d]: so play the one you like

[12:20] koksik[2d]: Go Siasio! *\o_.

[12:20] BYT519[1d]: fuseki doesn't matter much anyway

Move 14

[12:20] ronin3[1k]: as LSD demonstrated in the jubango with Gu Li :(

[12:21] ronin3[1k]: even before AI

[12:21] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: very calm opening from both players ^^

[12:22] BYT519[1d]: yeah, even P10

[12:22] Daniug[3d]: i could have played this myself :D

[12:22] JanGret[9k]: Maybe a bit "back to basics", instead of starting early fights?

[12:23] koksik[2d]: fight will probably start soon anyway :D

[12:23] koksik[2d]: no need to rush it :D

Move 15

[12:25] gimlix[?]: calm before the storm ;)

[12:25] ys3[3d]: maybe white extends on top now, or finds something to poke

[12:26] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i would love to go somewhere around N3 and make a mess immidietly xd

[12:26] guy.avn96[2k]: this looks like a kyu fuseki, but w has the fancier enclosures so

[12:26] guy.avn96[2k]: w ahead

[12:26] guy.avn96[2k]: by like, 20% LZ or something

[12:26] guy.avn96[2k]: (i run LZ in my head)

Move 16

[12:26] ys3[3d]: was either top or poke bottom right, yeah

[12:27] koksik[2d]: I don't think it will be 20% ;P there was no time to really make mistake so far :D

[12:27] guy.avn96[2k]: i'd bet you if i had LZ installed.

[12:27] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: oooh Q3 o.o

[12:27] koksik[2d]: :D

[12:27] nidza[?]: white ahead cos white is artem?:) or because white is better

[12:27] guy.avn96[2k]: yaknow what? let me install it.

[12:27] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: artem had the same love as i ^^

[12:27] koksik[2d]: ok so up until q3 ;p I'm curious too so let me know :D

Move 17

[12:28] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: tho q3 looks lot messier than n3 ^^

[12:28] koksik[2d]: LZ doesnt work on my laptop, so I can't check ;(

[12:28] koksik[2d]: doesn't

[12:28] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 1

[12:28] Hamlet[6k]: Does something like q3 work?

[12:28] Hamlet[6k]: thanks

[12:29] KKkanbolat[3k]: maybe

[12:29] Anthe[5k]: p3 w0,4+

Move 18

[12:29] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 2

[12:30] ys3[3d]: q3 was a probe, and aji to live later or to use the stone

[12:30] RuiZheng[2k]: hi

Move 19

[12:32] snakesss[1k]: if white d15, then what?

[12:33] snakesss[1k]: e17? e16? e14?

[12:33] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 3

[12:33] OndraKruml[?]: w punished for not playing o15

[12:34] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 4

[12:34] koksik[2d]: Ondra would o15 really be that good? Wouldn't you rather have stone at l17 and looking at p18 aji for example?

[12:35] snakesss[1k]: i know i would - i almost never play this far peep to the long knight

[12:35] snakesss[1k]: e15, o15... i dont rly get it much

[12:35] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 5

Move 21

[12:36] koksik[2d]: E15 is simple, we can also make something at the top, so we can gain something if white just keeps territory. But o15 I don't really get either

[12:36] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: jeesh artem is solid o.o

[12:36] guy.avn96[2k]: I suspect it was a joke move

[12:37] ys3[3d]: d16 is normal shape

[12:37] OndraKruml[?]: I am not sure if it is good in this position, but FineArt prolly strongest bot plays in on 2 handicaps against humans on fox server. I guess its hard to understand its meaning though :] would have been really suprized if artem played it in such an important game

Move 22

[12:37] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 6

[12:37] liquid[6d]: j17 nice move

[12:37] ys3[3d]: artem wouldnt do it in important game i think

[12:38] snakesss[1k]: so if white did d15, black was going to continue locally, right?

[12:38] Mrrr[2d]: do boju Siasio!

[12:38] snakesss[1k]: since white answered solidly/passively, without touchin, black played more chill too

[12:39] mikuu[10k]: hmmm..I see

[12:39] KKkanbolat[3k]: yesssssssssssssssss

[12:40] KKkanbolat[3k]: yes

[12:40] koksik[2d]: OndraKruml thanks, good to know :D I will be eyeing this kind of moves too then from now on :D

[12:40] ys3[3d]: be careful not to copy AI moves without knowing meaning

[12:40] mikuu[10k]: who did you cheer? black or white?

[12:41] BYT519[2d]: Let

[12:41] snakesss[1k]: also, be careful not to copy tradition moves without knowing meaning

[12:41] BYT519[2d]: haha

[12:41] dlpigozzi[4k]: I cheer white but I like black's shape

[12:41] OndraKruml[?]: Variation: 7

[12:41] Chinitsu[3d]: be careful not to play joseki withou knowing meaning

[12:41] BYT519[2d]: let's get sassy(o)

[12:41] ys3[3d]: ah yeah 3, i knew there was a move for that aji but i forgot it

[12:41] snakesss[1k]: just... be careful

[12:41] BYT519[2d]: be careful not to play without the meaning of life

[12:42] JanGret[9k]: be careful

[12:42] JanGret[9k]: :)

[12:42] koksik[2d]: OndraKruml I see :D complicated a lot though ;)

[12:42] BYT519[2d]: be greatful?

[12:42] BYT519[2d]: it's not too complicated if you know the meaning :P

[12:42] koksik[2d]: definitely interesting sequence :)

[12:42] OndraKruml[?]: yeah that is usually good for white actually so black answeres o15 with m16 :O

[12:43] OndraKruml[?]: I swear im not make this up :D

Move 23

[12:43] ys3[3d]: if it works, it works...

[12:43] ys3[3d]: i was about to ask what B should play here

[12:43] koksik[2d]: BYT519 the fight after the crosscut is complicated even if you know the meaning :D

Move 25

[12:44] koksik[2d]: Ondra I believe you :D nice concept :) quite similiar to e15 really

[12:44] BYT519[2d]: we got our first crosscut of the game boooiiiiiiiii

[12:44] BYT519[2d]: ^^

[12:44] ys3[3d]: o15 would be a nice ladder breaker right about now....

[12:44] koksik[2d]: gimme influence or lets fight :D

[12:44] Pun-RB[6k]: ...

Move 26

[12:44] Pun-RB[6k]: <error> ...

[12:45] Pun-RB[6k]: <error>...

Move 30

[12:45] mikuu[10k]: @Pun-RB ?

Move 31

[12:45] bartosz[?]: why not c2 instead of e4?

[12:45] bartosz[?]: i mean b3

[12:46] ys3[3d]: cause c2 too slow

[12:46] ronin3[1k]: D4 stone is much too important

[12:46] ronin3[1k]: needs to capture that one

[12:46] ZbigniewWodecki[3k]: cause white has sente now

[12:46] ZbigniewWodecki[3k]: if C2 black gets sente

[12:47] JanGret[9k]: wow, AI just jumped 20% for white...

[12:47] ronin3[1k]: jumped up or down?

[12:47] ys3[3d]: 20% jump dont mean anything this early

[12:47] JanGret[9k]: from 50 to 70

[12:47] snakesss[1k]: meaning black lost 1 point

[12:47] BYT519[2d]: I wouldn't say it means nothing

[12:47] BYT519[2d]: but yeah

[12:47] ZbigniewWodecki[3k]: i think F14 now oe E13

[12:48] ZbigniewWodecki[3k]: or*

[12:48] ys3[3d]: i would say it means nothing

[12:48] JanGret[9k]: Thanks

[12:48] BYT519[2d]: depends which ai I guess

[12:48] Yezurof[2d]: this early it's probably a 5 to 7 poitns lead ? No meaningless for sure, but not so much neither

[12:48] JanGret[9k]: I just have that AI twitch stream open, as wthere is no comment stream

[12:48] ys3[3d]: not really. it slike a 1-2 point lead

[12:48] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: yo

[12:48] gimlix[?]: 5 points leading would be a lot :)

[12:48] Zaphodian[?]: B3 seems huge now. Black must be ahead

Move 32

[12:49] koksik[2d]: oh true, will there be commentary on twitch?

[12:49] koksik[2d]: on this game?

[12:50] koksik[2d]: somehow my gut feeling says C13 now for black ;p

[12:50] JanGret[9k]: I guess we are the commentary. And we have Zaphodian here, so we will probably see some nice variations :)

[12:51] wxh100[13k]: I say white is looking for L4 or K5

Move 33

[12:51] robertmehl[14k]: According to ISibbol B is ahead

Move 34

[12:51] wxh100[13k]: 200 people!

[12:51] JanGret[9k]: Okay, then I dobn't get at all what that graph there is showing me

Move 35

[12:51] Welvang[1p]: Hi, I will comment this game soon on twitch

[12:51] BYT519[2d]: oh niiice :)

[12:51] koksik[2d]: Welvgang <3 thanks!

[12:51] robertmehl[14k]: thx, welvang

[12:52] JanGret[9k]: Our savior, Tanguy!

Move 36

[12:52] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: awesome!

[12:52] wxh100[13k]: Good move

[12:52] koksik[2d]: Welvang* :D misspelled

[12:52] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: hmm i dont feel b being ahead, b has very low positions and a floating group :/

[12:53] wxh100[13k]: White got left territory

[12:53] cerebeal[7k]: link?

Move 37

[12:53] wxh100[13k]: Also Q3 is in trouble

[12:53] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: tho i guess w doesnt have much territory eitehr now, except the left

[12:53] Mrrr[2d]: G10 is so cool

[12:53] dlpigozzi[4k]: witch.tv/europeangofederation

[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: G12 feels good enough

[12:53] robertmehl[14k]: https://www.twitch.tv/isibboi

[12:53] wxh100[13k]: very cool

[12:53] Chinitsu[3d]: don't do black magic

[12:53] wxh100[13k]: forces black out

[12:53] dlpigozzi[4k]: twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[12:54] Chinitsu[3d]: try science.tv instead

[12:54] wxh100[13k]: F12(?)

[12:54] cerebeal[7k]: thanks

[12:54] yahel.or.3[6d]: https://www.twitch.tv/isibboi

[12:55] hypergeometric[5k]: wxh100 : if you look closer at Q3 you'll see two eyes

[12:55] wxh100[13k]: ?

[12:56] hypergeometric[5k]: it's alive

[12:56] Mrrr[2d]: in ko

[12:56] wxh100[13k]: Let me see, I get a varistion

[12:56] wxh100[13k]: wait

[12:56] dlpigozzi[4k]: Variation: staring at you

[12:56] Welvang[3d]: Review: ##604213

[12:57] ozzyiscimen[11k]: good

[12:57] dlpigozzi[4k]: Variation: smiley staring at you

[12:58] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i guess white doesnt really care q3 that much, since black doesnt wanna play gote move in that area either

Move 38

[12:58] dlpigozzi[4k]: O2 could change the idea

[12:59] koksik[2d]: KoBa exactly :) but he has some aji to activate this stone :)

[12:59] koksik[2d]: in the future

[12:59] koksik[2d]: maybe not so distant :D

[12:59] dlpigozzi[4k]: m3 first for instance

[12:59] Welvang[1p]: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[13:00] koksik[2d]: even R3 could make some ko :)

[13:00] BYT519[3d]: hmm, not sure I understand E13 here

[13:00] koksik[2d]: though I doubt r3 will be played ;P just example

[13:00] dlpigozzi[4k]: I like it, I mean E13

[13:00] koksik[2d]: E13 shape move, also telling black to connect with bad shape ;)

[13:01] koksik[2d]: which I don't think black will do ;p

[13:01] dlpigozzi[4k]: may be E9 now

Move 39

[13:02] BYT519[3d]: yeah but exactly because black would never do it

[13:02] BYT519[3d]: like - if you don't hit E13 as white - what is black going to do to 'punish' that?

[13:02] koksik[2d]: yeah, he would never do it, which means he has to be mindful of being cut in half pootentially

[13:02] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 8

[13:03] BYT519[3d]: what is that variation lol

[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: it's an 8k variation

[13:03] BYT519[3d]: ahaha

Move 40

[13:03] KKkanbolat[3k]: thanks

Move 41

[13:05] Zaphodian[?]: You can try out all kinds of variation by yourself without actually making the world part of it, just by the simple act of not sharing.

[13:05] dlpigozzi[4k]: Variation: 10k variation

[13:06] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: a better one already

Move 43

[13:06] dlpigozzi[4k]: thanks

[13:06] BYT519[3d]: I mean - it's fine, but it being 25 moves long is just a bit exessive :D

Move 44

[13:06] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: yeah and in the variation, why did W played 13,14 and 15 moves ? xD

Move 46

[13:07] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: my gut feeling says that white is ahead, but isibboi's kata says b+0.1 ^^

[13:07] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Artem is getting lot of cash

[13:07] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: i'm just bad at judging positions >___>

[13:07] Coorchac[1k]: Siasio, gogogo *\o/*

[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: Believe me, most of the Diagrams that I produce, I don't share. Incidentally, I used to be rated higher than Siasio is now (and I beat him about 18 months ago), but my reading has gone down a little.

[13:08] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: but the black's strengh looks not usefull at all

[13:08] Zaphodian[?]: yes, this looks terrible for B

[13:08] snakesss[1k]: i like newbies sharing variations

[13:08] dlpigozzi[4k]: my poor 10k vision feels it was better to connect E11 and then go down

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: Wtf

[13:09] snakesss[1k]: its brave

[13:09] snakesss[1k]: strong players should correct them perhaps?

[13:09] Zaphodian[?]: You can be brave and die. It happens all the time...

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: $*!%

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: S

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: $*!%

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: Cc

[13:09] Coorchac[1k]: ?

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: C

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: Haha

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: Pp

[13:09] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: Lunla, please stop flooding

[13:10] shallowdream[2d]: ？

[13:10] Coorchac[1k]: Lunla, stop

[13:10] dlpigozzi[4k]: F13? can actually cut B?

[13:10] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: some moderators here to ban ?

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: Why

[13:10] snakesss[1k]: see, you complain about a variation but here is this xD

[13:10] JanGret[9k]: doesn't white love going further down here and just getting a large territory to the left?

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: Why

[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: because this is a community

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: 😡😡😡😡😡

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: Ok

[13:10] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

Move 47

[13:10] shallowdream[2d]: how old are you I wonder

[13:10] cerebeal[7k]: Just block messages ez pz

[13:11] death_taxes[1k]: can i block the chat from this muppet somehow?

[13:11] snakesss[1k]: click name / block

[13:11] Toei[3k]: shes a kid, like 5

[13:11] death_taxes[1k]: but still i can see what he's writing here

[13:11] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: W tenuki here

[13:11] Zaphodian[?]: thx, snakess.

[13:11] cerebeal[7k]: I blocked and I can't see it

[13:11] Lunla-RB[11k]: Not ai wtf

[13:11] death_taxes[1k]: ah ok

[13:11] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:12] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:12] death_taxes[1k]: had to tick the box, thanks

[13:12] Yezurof[2d]: I struggle to see how to use this wall for Black, even more if white get sente

[13:12] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:12] Lunla-RB[11k]: T-T

[13:12] Lunla-RB[11k]: X

[13:12] Lunla-RB[11k]: B

[13:12] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: W plays p8 now ?

[13:12] tekken8[1d]: i think theres still some aji with the e10 stones

[13:13] Zaphodian[?]: OK, I will block you now, too. Your problem will be that nobody will see your writing anymore and you can't even ask serious questions anymore. And it will be forever.

[13:13] Lunla-RB[11k]: It not ai!

[13:13] dlpigozzi[4k]: I was asking if B F13 could do the aji

[13:13] ahsan.safdar[9k]: Variation: 10k variation was definitely the better direction

[13:13] Lunla-RB[11k]: Joy aij

[13:13] Lunla-RB[11k]: Yo

[13:13] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 11

[13:14] Lunla-RB[11k]: 😭😭

Move 49

[13:15] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: corner is better of course...

[13:15] Lunla-RB[11k]: 😡no one want me :L

[13:15] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:15] dlpigozzi[4k]: wow, nice timing

[13:15] tekken8[1d]: this seems a bit odd

[13:15] Lunla-RB[11k]: Bye

Move 50

[13:15] Lunla-RB[11k]: P

[13:15] Zaphodian[?]: Anyway, it's still an even game.

[13:15] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 12

[13:15] tibboh[3k]: cut!

[13:16] tibboh[3k]: (says KataGo after 50k playouts)

[13:16] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Black's threat after cutting

[13:17] Kamakiri[1k]: White will not atari cutting stone

[13:17] cerebeal[7k]: Feels uneven. Like black got a big wall facing an area that is basically already being reduced from the isolated white group and the corner spilling out. I suck at using walls though.

[13:17] Zaphodian[?]: Therefore, this cut is the move that Siasio is thinking about now.

[13:18] JanGret[9k]: Tanguy is casting now, btw: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[13:18] tekken8[1d]: p8 seems like an important move here

[13:18] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Black's threat after cutting

[13:18] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Alternative

Move 51

[13:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Siaisio is actually readin this

[13:19] dlpigozzi[4k]: the cut looks definitely good to get the territory on bottom/right

Move 53

[13:20] dlpigozzi[4k]: I think zaph is right, and that why he started at g15

[13:21] dlpigozzi[4k]: artem reply fast

[13:21] Zaphodian[?]: I think I could show you how a top player like Siasio thinks.

[13:21] dlpigozzi[4k]: u r

[13:22] Zaphodian[?]: But I think the exchange of G15 for H16 is a small loss

[13:22] JanGret[9k]: Thank you, Zapj.

[13:22] tekken8[1d]: shouldnt he cut at g7 first?

[13:22] Zaphodian[?]: It's very easy to show AI moves, but you can't come up with those moves yourself.

[13:23] Yezurof[2d]: ask f11 question first, cut after

[13:23] dlpigozzi[4k]: probably D13 is already a problem tekken

Move 54

[13:23] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: often, i found the moves of strong dan players, the problem is the reading behind the moves ahah

Move 56

[13:23] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 13

Move 57

[13:23] Zaphodian[?]: To become stronger you have to know what to thinbk about. An AI can help you with that, though

Move 60

[13:24] Zaphodian[?]: woah

[13:24] tekken8[1d]: h12 is still a bad cut for black

[13:24] tekken8[1d]: yeah

[13:24] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: of course, w would not play c12....

[13:24] Kamakiri[1k]: Variation: This is best for both players right?

[13:24] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: First intuition

Move 61

[13:24] Zaphodian[?]: Yes,

Move 62

[13:24] Yezurof[2d]: "Let's trade the points I just made for the wall you just made"

Move 66

[13:25] KKkanbolat[3k]: Variation: 14

[13:25] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: what esle to do ?K

[13:25] Zaphodian[?]: So this uses the 'drive' tesuji

[13:25] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: w still can play c12 so black didn't gained much

Move 67

[13:26] Zaphodian[?]: senseis: DrivingTesuji

[13:26] tekken8[1d]: B seems in more trouble than before now

[13:26] Zaphodian[?]: No, I think H12 was very rash

[13:27] tekken8[1d]: yes unless he can run h12 to save his stones. h12 is weak

[13:28] Scoby[1k]: yea, i don't see the exact way to profit of the J13-Stones, but I would be verry uneasy as white

Move 72

[13:28] dlpigozzi[4k]: well, the fight is served

Move 74

[13:29] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: center is getting swallowed naturally

[13:29] BYT519[3d]: geez, what happened here :D

[13:29] JanGret[9k]: We are building pillars again?

[13:29] BYT519[3d]: those are no longer iron pillars - these are diamond pillars :D

Move 75

[13:30] thomas.athorne[1d]: I'm amazed that kata still considers this so even!

[13:30] dlpigozzi[4k]: there were no many points done

Move 76

[13:31] dlpigozzi[4k]: if B saves, katas idea, is even

[13:31] BYT519[3d]: this doesn't look scary at all ^

[13:32] Zaphodian[?]: Why would this not be 'so even'?

Move 78

[13:34] cerebeal[7k]: Going to try to live in there? yikes

[13:34] Zaphodian[?]: B has a weak group but B is ahead on territory

[13:34] dlpigozzi[4k]: g7 is not working anymore

Move 79

[13:34] dlpigozzi[4k]: ouch

[13:34] Zaphodian[?]: says who?

Move 80

[13:34] dlpigozzi[4k]: me...

[13:34] thomas.athorne[1d]: @Zaphodian It has the feel of a situation in which one or the other player has made a mistake---you said yourself that w's h12 was 'very rash'.

[13:35] Zaphodian[?]: Now, after G7 F7 exchange, I think the balance has tilted in B's favor

Move 81

[13:35] Anthe[5k]: yawp , kata agrees

Move 82

[13:35] dlpigozzi[4k]: i didnt share my variation of g7 because I probably couldnt see a good result

Move 83

[13:37] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, but even so. W was ahead before cutting at H12. After that he probably was behind. But it couldn;t be more than a few points. W managed to strengthen his stones on the right, which is also a plus.

Move 84

[13:37] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: Variation: instead cutting h12, would it be better to peep the cut?

[13:37] ahsan.safdar[9k]: why didnt black cut at F8 instead of the F6 move? any ideas?

Move 85

[13:37] tekken8[1d]: i think w should have protected g7 at some point

Move 86

[13:38] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Maybe I would peep at J12

[13:38] Ray Anthony[13k]: black sees an opportunity in the lower left corner that he wants to take

[13:38] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: usual shape

[13:39] tekken8[1d]: now black has to run again

[13:39] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: alternative: fight

[13:39] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: oh i see

Move 89

[13:39] Ray Anthony[13k]: black needs14F

Move 91

[13:40] Zaphodian[?]: f14 is peanuts at the moment

[13:40] dlpigozzi[4k]: he can cut at J16 or connect with N17

[13:40] Ray Anthony[13k]: agreed...but he needs it

[13:40] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: No need

Move 93

[13:41] Scoby[1k]: How can you say you agree and say something, that contradicts ;-)

[13:41] Ray Anthony[13k]: youre right

[13:41] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: But w f15 is tesuji

[13:41] Ray Anthony[13k]: because the battle in the center at the moment is obviously more important

[13:42] tekken8[1d]: i really hate the l10 shape

[13:42] bartosz[?]: Artem has 6:0 track record against Siasio

[13:42] dlpigozzi[4k]: tanguy is catching up with h12

[13:42] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: untold hardship

[13:42] pistodrake04[12k]: L10 protected from l9 cut?

[13:42] OndraKruml[?]: siasio play quite impressive at least to me

[13:43] bartosz[?]: yes, kata agrees

[13:43] Anthe[5k]: b+8

[13:43] Zaphodian[?]: So you can listen to Tanguy. He gives a human approach to how to think - no matter what kata says. https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[13:43] tekken8[1d]: l10 protects l9 and j9 cut both

Move 94

[13:44] Zaphodian[?]: Tanguy's level is in between Siasio's and Artem's.

Move 95

[13:44] tekken8[1d]: yeah w really shouldve protected g7

Move 97

[13:45] Scoby[1k]: i really start to like black. I think he can make the bottom right corner solid, basicly in sente and play something big at the top.

Move 98

[13:45] pistodrake04[12k]: I'm quite new to ogs if I have to go but want to dl this game can I find it again easily?

Move 99

[13:46] joerg[3d]: just bookmark it

[13:46] dlpigozzi[4k]: yep

[13:46] dlpigozzi[4k]: same url

[13:46] dlpigozzi[4k]: it will be there

[13:46] liquid[6d]: black ahead by a lot ?

[13:46] Scoby[1k]: when the game is finished, you can download the with a button on the right side - it will apear when the game is finished

[13:47] pistodrake04[12k]: Ah true thx ogs pretty well done website

Move 101

[13:48] Scoby[1k]: bottom right corner bigger as the center ?!?