Move 137
1 capture
0 captures
+ 6.5
Unranked
Rules: Japanese
III
Processing
Black wins by Resignation

Reviews

Move 0
January 27, 2021
[12:11] Siasio[?]: Have a nice game!
[12:11] artem92[2p]: have a nice game
Move 1
[12:11] robertmehl[14k]: good luck, siasio!
Move 6
[12:13] ys3[3d]: semifinals, best of 3, siasio won game 1
Move 7
[12:13] Badukness05[2k]: is roln on semi too?
[12:13] ys3[3d]: yes
Move 12
[12:14] ys3[3d]: against pavol. ilya won game 1. game 2 in about 4.75 hours
[12:16] Badukness05[2k]: a nice pro
[12:17] hypergeometric[5k]: ys3 : when is the final ?
[12:17] JanGret[10k]: Anyone knows what happenend with the game dacat1 vs AndriiKravets game earlier today?
[12:18] ys3[3d]: website says saturday will be games 1 and 2 of finals, sunday game 3 if needed
Move 26
[12:20] Zaphodian[?]: Oscar apparently won
Move 29
[12:21] Moggetyrael[5d]: But there is no game between them on OGS
[12:22] JanGret[10k]: yeah, but there is no game in the history and the linked game is Ilyas game it seems. So I guess Andrii could not make it or something like that
Move 30
[12:22] Zaphodian[?]: Hmmm, weird
[12:22] Badukness05[2k]: that white fuseki is new?
[12:23] Zaphodian[?]: No, it's pretty much in line with some AI games.
[12:23] JanGret[10k]: Isn't that kinda a normal extension as black wants to play there, too?
Move 36
[12:25] Badukness05[2k]: seems so
[12:25] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: after R5, natural continuation
[12:25] MuYu[8k]: One question: why did Spanish play too?
[12:26] Zaphodian[?]: ??
Move 37
[12:26] Zaphodian[?]: Maybe because Spain is part of Europe?
Move 43
[12:27] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B's plan, but W is OK and gets sente
Move 46
[12:27] MuYu[8k]: I mean that today they also faced "Oscar Vazquez (Spain) vs Andrii Kravets (Ukraine)" according to the Federation page; I wondered why they were playing since they were left out.
Move 49
[12:28] JanGret[10k]: they are playing for places 5-8
[12:28] MuYu[8k]: For good! Thanks :)
[12:29] JanGret[10k]: they lost their quarter final games, so are now part of the lower bracket.
[12:29] Badukness05[2k]: c16 normal invasion?
[12:29] Zaphodian[?]: So the principle that W follows is: OK, you enlarged your moyo on the right side and so you have skin in the game and will defend when I reduce you from the left side (while building up my own moyo).
[12:30] JanGret[10k]: Seriously: I would love to see you commenting this game on Stream :)
[12:30] nidza[?]: t6 looks rly bad
[12:31] nidza[?]: if b wanted o5 why start with r5 in the beginning
Move 50
[12:32] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, o5 right away would probably be better - W's local defense could be S5.
[12:33] nidza[?]: that looks normal yeah
[12:34] malishevserafym[2k]: maybe siasio uses AI? his moves are 98 percent the same as leela zero
[12:34] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Like this, @nidza
Move 51
[12:34] Badukness05[2k]: he is using ai??
[12:34] ys3[3d]: you may want to calm down with cheating accusations there
[12:34] Zaphodian[?]: No, the players do not use AI - it's impossible.
[12:34] gojigs[4d]: no way stas uses AI
[12:34] Kamakiri[1k]: Studying with AI allows you to make similiar moves especially at Fuseki
[12:35] nidza[?]: ofc he is not using ai. what are you talking about
[12:35] gojigs[4d]: first, they have to stream each other with i think 2 or 3 cameras even
[12:35] gimlix[?]: that's fuseki part You can study them with ai
[12:35] Zaphodian[?]: But Stas plays loads of games with an AI and he studies the opening using AI.
[12:35] gojigs[4d]: and second -- do you know him ?
[12:35] gojigs[4d]: he is amazing person :)
[12:35] ys3[3d]: its been pretty basic so far anyway in terms of strategy
[12:35] Zaphodian[?]: Yeah, I know him and played him.
[12:36] Kamakiri[1k]: Do they use Zen Mode?
[12:36] Kamakiri[1k]: When playing
[12:36] Zaphodian[?]: No ofc not
Move 52
[12:37] Badukness05[2k]: P10 ?
[12:37] nidza[?]: zen mode is fullscreen mode for OGS zaphodian. its not required when you play
Move 53
[12:38] Sadiker[?]: s15?
[12:38] Zaphodian[?]: Yes, so, I guess they don't.
[12:38] malishevserafym[2k]: according to AI, black has no chance anymore))
[12:38] ys3[3d]: ah ok youre just a troll
[12:38] Zaphodian[?]: No chance? like 90% or so?
[12:38] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: ohh why there isnt a banner for this >___>
[12:39] Zaphodian[?]: But that's almost meaningless for humans
Move 54
[12:39] tryk8[?]: No. Game is still very close.
Move 56
[12:39] Kamakiri[1k]: Even 99% is meaningless if Artem could start a huge fight
[12:39] JanGret[10k]: With human top level players this early, there can and will be huhe swings
Move 57
[12:40] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Black's idea
Move 61
[12:41] JanGret[10k]: So, it really is not that meaningfull. And we've seen several games swing the other way in this tournament
[12:41] nidza[?]: in your var what if i push trough. seems working
Move 63
[12:42] JanGret[10k]: Doesn't this basicly thicken white so, that he is guaranteed the bottom left corner?
[12:42] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Black's idea expanded
Move 64
[12:42] Whirly[1d]: is 6 neccesary?
[12:42] Whirly[1d]: in your var
[12:43] tryk8[?]: Artem made some small mistakes, but the game is still playable.
[12:43] Welvang[1p]: Hi, i'm going to comment this game in about 5-10 minutes, feel free to join :)
[12:43] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: awesome tanguy!
[12:43] gojigs[4d]: wow. welvang was 2k 10 lines above and now improved to 1p ;)
[12:43] gojigs[4d]: i want the same drink
[12:44] Badukness05[2k]: yes i dont get it
Move 65
[12:44] robertmehl[14k]: great, welvang, thx
Move 66
[12:44] Zaphodian[?]: @Whirley, kind of necessary
[12:44] Welvang[1p]: i went from ben0 to pro
[12:44] gojigs[4d]: haha^^
[12:44] JanGret[10k]: Invite Rob to the stream and you will have an even more epic commentary :)
[12:45] kusrabs[6k]: Что ж, решающая для Артема. Удачи!
[12:45] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B 1 is dangerous
[12:46] MuYu[8k]: Siasio in the papers on a 7d, right?
[12:46] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B can fight back now
[12:46] liquid[6d]: hard for black
[12:46] liquid[6d]: really severe :(
[12:46] Welvang[1p]: I might invite Ali but i think he's still sleeping
[12:46] Welvang[1p]: sleeping ali is the next emote anyway
Move 67
[12:47] Whirly[1d]: it's 14:46 in israel
[12:47] JanGret[10k]: @MuYu Yes, 7d Amateuer, but that is the highest rank possible for an amateuer.
[12:47] Palko[2p]: Haha good one Tanguy
[12:47] Welvang[1p]: I'm not sure that changes anything
[12:47] Whirly[1d]: he's sleeping noon?
[12:47] Palko[2p]: What emote would fit for you tho?
[12:47] Welvang[1p]: well it's already available on the stream xD
[12:47] Welvang[1p]: you can give it a name
[12:47] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: isnt this still really close? i cou nt about 60 points for both players >__>
[12:48] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: so i guess w leads by ~komi?
[12:48] Badukness05[2k]: koba is pro
[12:48] tryk8[?]: Yes, it is quite close
[12:48] MuYu[8k]: anGret. Sure, it's too high for us, but I'm saying this because it eliminated one 2P and apparently it's going to eliminate another: O
[12:48] MuYu[8k]: Jan
[12:48] ronin3[1k]: it is too early to count
[12:48] ys3[3d]: "apparently" youre getting well ahead of yourself
[12:49] MuYu[8k]: Even if he loses, he already took a game out of him yesterday
[12:49] Sadiker[?]: Variation: 6
[12:49] JanGret[10k]: Yes, Siasio is very likely a strong enough player to be one of the next pros. He was close in 2019
[12:49] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: Siassio is in really good shapê, after wining against andrii, now artem is struggling against him...Siasio future pro
[12:49] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: First intuition
[12:50] MuYu[8k]: What I'm saying is that their real strength seems to be greater than their roles
[12:50] ys3[3d]: yeah then theres a game 3 tomorrow
[12:50] Badukness05[2k]: diobrando nice nickname
[12:50] death_taxes[1k]: here it says that oscar beat Andrii, but i can't find their game on ogs
[12:50] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W is reading this
[12:50] death_taxes[1k]: and it happened today
[12:50] gojigs[4d]: i think stas has even exam for university this week -- pretty amazing what magic he can do :)
[12:50] Mkyle[1d]: Oh right, I was looking for that game earlier
[12:51] JanGret[10k]: @death_taxes I was looking in the morning. It did not happen. After a while dacat1 got the win - so I guess this is a "now show" situation
[12:51] Zaphodian[?]: Yup, we discussed that earlier
[12:51] death_taxes[1k]: so what? Andrii overslept?
[12:51] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: the next pro will be siasso or Lukan ? I would love to see both but one only can be the last pro =/
[12:51] Mkyle[1d]: No show? really? did Andrii not realise that the game was scheduled?
[12:52] Zaphodian[?]: we don't know what happened and let's stop speculating.
[12:52] JanGret[10k]: Sometimes life happens
[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: what a terrible thing to say
[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: ;-)
Move 68
[12:53] Lukan[?]: guys, what the hell... Oscar won by 1,5 and the game was played as usual
[12:53] Moggetyrael[5d]: INstead of pro qualification maybe we should let Siasia and Lukan play jubango and see who is better :P
[12:53] Zaphodian[?]: woah
[12:54] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: maximum resistance huh
[12:54] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: severe or overplay, that is the question
[12:54] death_taxes[1k]: then why is it not visilble o their accounts?
[12:54] Lukan[?]: most likely they made the game private accidentally
Move 69
[12:54] death_taxes[1k]: ok that makes more sense
Move 70
[12:55] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: possible yes
Move 72
[12:55] OndraKruml[?]: what is black doing :O
[12:55] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: wild variation
Move 74
[12:55] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: OMG, they play it
Move 77
[12:56] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: killing intent
[12:56] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Maybe first push
[12:56] JanGret[10k]: So instead of black breaking through, he took the top corner?
[12:56] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: c14 enough ?
[12:56] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: local tesuji
[12:57] Whirly[1d]: Variation: isn't that better?
[12:57] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: why is b15 better than c14 rob ?
[12:57] OndraKruml[?]: I think he is calculating if he can b19
[12:58] MuYu[8k]: DioMarca, I saw your game vs Angular, very good!
Move 79
[12:59] MuYu[8k]: DioBrandof
[12:59] JanGret[10k]: Is black alive after B16?
[12:59] MuYu[8k]: The translator changes my words xD
Move 81
[12:59] Badukness05[2k]: wow w seems toasted
Move 83
[13:01] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: in term of points, looks even to me
[13:02] Kamakiri[1k]: With S15 open, I'd say black is slightly better
[13:02] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: yes but W has pottention on the center, right ?
[13:02] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: around g10
[13:02] Zaphodian[?]: So I guess B should have exchanged F16 for G16 before playing C18
Move 84
[13:03] Zaphodian[?]: Anyway, Tanguy is commenting now: https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation
[13:03] tryk8[?]: Game is very close
[13:03] Badukness05[2k]: time for o10
[13:03] hypergeometric[5k]: B J16 now ? It looks slow but also it seems to secure a lot of territory
[13:04] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: looks slack to me, there are more urgent moves it seems
[13:05] tryk8[?]: Or invide the right area
[13:05] Zaphodian[?]: I'll give you an even slacker alternative: S15
Move 85
[13:06] tryk8[?]: Heh
[13:06] Zaphodian[?]: B feels he is behind
[13:06] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: s15 but in a more active way ahah
[13:06] thomas.athorne[1d]: S15 was blue though :)
Move 86
[13:06] tryk8[?]: Must connect
[13:07] tryk8[?]: wow
Move 88
[13:07] Zaphodian[?]: connecting would be slack
[13:08] Zaphodian[?]: But maybe connecting would be better anyway.
[13:08] Zaphodian[?]: Because now B gets forcing moves and threaten to cut.
Move 89
[13:10] Badukness05[2k]: he played j16
[13:10] hypergeometric[5k]: ah :D
Move 90
[13:10] Zaphodian[?]: B can use his marked stone like this - Humans have a bias do use the moves they played earlier.
[13:10] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: w says center is mine
Move 91
[13:11] Badukness05[2k]: b is gonna win easily
[13:11] LVL79[4k]: Go go Artem!
[13:11] tryk8[?]: Game is very close
[13:11] Zaphodian[?]: It's not clear at all. B has a lot of cash, too
[13:11] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: w has more pottential so it's not clear
Move 92
[13:12] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: is e2 good now ?
[13:12] Badukness05[2k]: e2?
[13:13] Zaphodian[?]: You don;t want to play e2 too early. W e2, B e3, W F4, B b3 - territorial loss for W
[13:13] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: to protect the cut at g5 in sente
[13:13] tryk8[?]: taking g4 eliminates aji in b shape
Move 93
[13:14] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: i though it would help W to build so much in the center
[13:14] malishevserafym[2k]: j7 big mistake for white
Move 94
[13:14] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: if you say so
[13:14] Radziol[3d]: lol
Move 95
[13:14] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: complicated choice - Aji of cutting at A and hane at B
Move 98
[13:15] Badukness05[2k]: easy life for b
[13:15] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: everything looks easy in your commentary badukness ahah
[13:16] Badukness05[2k]: lol ;)
Move 99
[13:16] Whirly[1d]: yeah you seem too sure
[13:16] Badukness05[2k]: for b must be easy
[13:16] Whirly[1d]: and in favour of artem
[13:16] Badukness05[2k]: hahah
[13:16] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: black has to swim nicely and not drawn in w's sea
Move 100
[13:16] tryk8[?]: I think Siasio lost some potential in the center
[13:17] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: really ? I see the center getting bigger and bigger each move ahah
[13:17] Zaphodian[?]: B is in mortal danger
[13:17] tryk8[?]: there is no way to kill j8
[13:17] Zaphodian[?]: Maybe an AI can easily make life, but for a human it's difficult.
[13:18] JanGret[10k]: I know we are all tired of it: That Katago stream now thinks it is dead even, while for most of the time, white was leading by 5-6 stones
[13:18] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: if j8 lives, p13 will big a big gift
[13:18] nidza[?]: points dont matter anymore, just j8 . kataGo knows some perfect way to live so its even
[13:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: human feeling
[13:20] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B is considering
[13:20] Whirly[1d]: can kata sometimes say it's even because it's not sure of a local outcome?
[13:20] karolkac04[?]: hmm looks not bad for white
[13:20] Walter666[?]: i think the china AI can win easily
[13:21] kendfrey[10k]: yes if there is a big fight kata might say score is close but with huge stddev
[13:22] Badukness05[2k]: only cho chikun is capable of reading that
[13:22] JanGret[10k]: So where does black want to connect? L15 group or o5?
Move 101
[13:22] kusrabs[6k]: may be there's some g5 pressure?
[13:24] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: connect like this
[13:25] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: good for white
Move 102
[13:26] Walter666[?]: the first way isnt gonna work
Move 103
[13:26] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: No connection
[13:26] Walter666[?]: agree
Move 105
[13:28] Badukness05[2k]: siasio the new shin jinseo
Move 106
[13:29] Zaphodian[?]: I am not getting W's moves here
[13:29] Zaphodian[?]: He pretends he can kill it - I wonder
Move 108
[13:30] tryk8[?]: Siasio plays as he wants to kill
[13:30] tryk8[?]: but it is not possible
[13:30] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: hard to kill
Move 109
[13:31] tryk8[?]: And now he has problems
[13:32] Zaphodian[?]: I have no ideas for White now
[13:33] nidza[?]: looking impossible to kill
[13:33] JanGret[10k]: Variation: half trapped
[13:33] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: activation of the cut at A
[13:34] bobsof[2d]: I thought W would play N11 instead of N10
[13:36] Alexey_Khovanets[?]: Variation: 7
[13:36] bobsof[2d]: I mean instead of L10
[13:37] tryk8[?]: The problem is that b (almost) activated p14 cut.
Move 110
[13:37] tryk8[?]: Ooooo
[13:39] DioBrandof923b297a6cf40dc[3d]: aie aie aie he wants to kill
Move 115
[13:40] Kamakiri[1k]: Variation: Wow
[13:40] tryk8[?]: but has to defend first
[13:40] Kamakiri[1k]: After all, he got M12 in sente, I'm quite surprised
[13:41] kusrabs[6k]: white loses center, I suppose. Black can live here or die with big losses for white.
[13:43] Fisherman_M[6k]: looks like b now wants to kill too P14
[13:43] kusrabs[6k]: May be b shouldn't? If it was me I'd come to c5
[13:44] The Treeman[2k]: W has to connect
Move 117
[13:44] Fisherman_M[6k]: if b14 is closed next move is L14 to connect all that group in the center
Move 118
[13:45] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: white can do this
[13:45] Fisherman_M[6k]: hope it's all a fantasy and fellas have more solid plan in heads
[13:46] The Treeman[2k]: wait this won't work, top right white will die
[13:46] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: black win
[13:47] Fisherman_M[6k]: that's nice option
[13:48] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: First idea for B but hard to read out
[13:49] kusrabs[6k]: Why not just n13?
Move 119
[13:49] CarloTibaldi[1d]: Why W didn't cut directly at N11?
[13:49] kusrabs[6k]: Zaphodian , he wrote
Move 122
[13:51] JanGret[10k]: finally the connection
[13:51] Badukness05[2k]: seems w is dying
[13:51] gojigs[4d]: i think b dies ;)
[13:51] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: white wins this
Move 123
[13:51] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W cut at N11 was a good candidate
[13:52] hypergeometric[5k]: W cut doesn't work now ?
[13:52] CarloTibaldi[1d]: Thank you Rob :-)
[13:52] tryk8[?]: looks like game over
[13:53] gojigs[4d]: for whom?
[13:53] MuYu[8k]: Why?
[13:53] tryk8[?]: For Siasio
[13:53] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: hard for black
[13:54] CarloTibaldi[1d]: It's a long way to Tipperary ;-)
Move 124
[13:54] tryk8[?]: IMHO very hard for w
Move 126
[13:54] tryk8[?]: almost impossible
Move 128
[13:56] The Treeman[2k]: game not finish yet
[13:56] The Treeman[2k]: center B not totally dead
Move 129
[13:57] tryk8[?]: b makes life without any problems
[13:58] The Treeman[2k]: Variation: this?
[13:58] tryk8[?]: and w lost all his territory
[13:58] Badukness05[2k]: thats what happens when you use ai style
[13:58] Ashi1989[?]: everyone are using AI style now :)
Move 130
[13:59] The Treeman[2k]: except one man for sure
[13:59] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B will secure eyes
[13:59] Ashi1989[?]: W all in
[13:59] Ashi1989[?]: :D
Move 131
[14:00] Zaphodian[?]: woah
[14:00] Badukness05[2k]: bloody
[14:00] Lukan[?]: aha
[14:00] tryk8[?]: is w dead?
[14:00] The Treeman[2k]: no
[14:00] Ashi1989[?]: no - there is connection in T11
[14:00] Palko[2p]: S9 just blew the game
[14:01] tryk8[?]: but t11-t10
[14:01] Whirly[1d]: doesn't actually live
[14:01] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W is dying
[14:01] Levvo[4d]: Bit late to the party. Siasio is 2p as well?
[14:01] tryk8[?]: t11-t10-s10-s13
[14:01] Celebrir[2d]: Shortage of lieberties with cut at S13
[14:01] Whirly[1d]: Variation: .
[14:02] gojigs[4d]: buy white doesnt have to block, no?
[14:02] The Treeman[2k]: white has to response withT11
[14:02] Ashi1989[?]: W can S14 before T14
[14:02] JanGret[10k]: @levvo 7d Amateuer, good canditate for next eu pro
[14:02] Ashi1989[?]: I cant see how to show it :D
[14:02] Levvo[4d]: Thanks!
[14:03] tryk8[?]: no life
[14:03] Cezary[5d]: stas is the best teacher in europe
[14:03] Cezary[5d]: i tel lyou
[14:03] gojigs[4d]: stas is really one of the best teachers :)
[14:05] Levvo[4d]: This game part of some tournament or they just having fun?
[14:05] tryk8[?]: It was a very good game. Perhaps the fight was not needed.
[14:05] Cezary[5d]: tournament
Move 136
[14:05] Cezary[5d]: gran prix finals :)
[14:05] Cezary[5d]: one of the top events in europe
Move 137
[14:06] tryk8[?]: wow
[14:06] tryk8[?]: k12
[14:06] The Treeman[2k]: it wont work
[14:07] tryk8[?]: yes
[14:07] tryk8[?]: so time to resign
[14:08] tryk8[?]: it's so pity
[14:08] artem92[2p]: thanks
[14:08] 💖 KoBa 💖[1k]: gg!
[14:08] Siasio[?]: Thank you!
[14:08] JanGret[10k]: gg
[14:08] jthat[2k]: pretty impressive how amateurs are nearly pro level in europe
[14:08] Fisherman_M[6k]: gg
[14:08] tschoppi[8k]: gg
[14:08] ManyBears[?]: gg
[14:08] Siasio[?]: I thought Black gained in the top left
[14:08] artem92[2p]: seems so
[14:08] dacat1[7d]: congrats ^^
[14:08] artem92[2p]: but then I was careless in the center
[14:09] Siasio[?]: it was difficult for White in the center, I thought if White doesn't kill, White cannot win
[14:09] Siasio[?]: instead of O5 I expected G5
[14:10] LVL79[4k]: Артем, вітаю!!!
[14:10] artem92[2p]: true, O5 might be not good
[14:11] artem92[2p]: alright, see you tomorrow
[14:12] Siasio[?]: see you!

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