Game Finished

Move 241

roln90[4p]

45 captures

artem92[3p]

6 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

III

Processing

Black wins by Resignation

Reviews

r.koiushev[?] - view

游之刃[?] - view

namfish chen[1d] - view

ano1910[3k] - view

Welvang[1p] - view

Move 3

January 30, 2021

[10:13] ronin3[2k]: noice

Move 4

[10:13] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: the grand finale!

[10:13] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: or rather, best of 3

[10:13] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: but still ^^

[10:13] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: https://eurogofed.org/grandprix/egpf2020.html

[10:13] liquid[4d]: this is going to be amazing match I feel

[10:14] ronin3[2k]: a third of a good thing is still a good thing ^^

[10:14] ys3[1d]: this is how the ali/ilya mirror go game began

[10:14] ys3[1d]: itd be funny, though unlikely

Move 9

[10:15] liquid[4d]: C14?

[10:15] sherIock[1d]: Hm..

Move 10

[10:15] Welvang[3d]: Review: ##606799

[10:15] ys3[1d]: f3 had begun appearing in pro games recently i noticed

[10:16] liquid[4d]: oh I did not even noticed that roln played it

Move 11

[10:18] ronin3[2k]: lower right approach now?

Move 12

[10:18] ronin3[2k]: \o/

[10:18] Zaphodian[?]: No, it's been played for some 2 years now... when the ladder favors B

[10:18] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Ladder good for B

[10:19] ronin3[2k]: aw

Move 13

[10:19] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Joseki, as weird as it looks

Move 19

[10:20] ronin3[2k]: oho

[10:20] Zaphodian[?]: Oh yeah!

Move 20

[10:23] Whirly[2k]: I would O4 instead

[10:23] Whirly[2k]: w can't develop on the bottom

[10:24] ys3[1d]: more focus on pressuring corner than anyhting

[10:24] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: joseki

Move 21

[10:26] Ectoplasm[?]: yes the cross-cut seemed painful

[10:26] Whirly[2k]: I see a carpenter's square coming :)

[10:27] ys3[1d]: w invited the cut with the lean

Move 23

[10:29] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Looks reasonable, but problem when W plays A

Move 25

[10:30] Whirly[2k]: do you know what the result should be when black has a hane in the carpenter's square?

[10:30] Whirly[2k]: is it still ko?

[10:30] ronin3[2k]: a move like Q2 is unimaginable for a kyu

[10:31] Whirly[2k]: or the only move for a ddk :P

Move 27

[10:31] Ectoplasm[?]: Still ko whirly, but a better ko than without a hane

[10:32] ronin3[2k]: feels like withe is making this easy for black

[10:33] Welvang[1p]: Hi, I will do a live commentary on https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[10:33] Welvang[1p]: It will start in 10-15min

[10:33] ronin3[2k]: thank you Tanguy!

Move 29

[10:35] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: probe to get momentum

Move 33

[10:35] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: easy response

Move 35

[10:36] Zaphodian[?]: They already played my variation, immediately

[10:37] katapliksi[2k]: hm, AI doesn't like the whole variation after R9

[10:37] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: normal

[10:38] godevilgo1[4k]: What is normal these days...

[10:38] Ectoplasm[?]: This b group will suffer for some time

Move 38

[10:40] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: timing was important (IMHO)

Move 39

[10:41] Whirly[2k]: Variation: maybe he could do it now too

[10:41] Ectoplasm[?]: the thing is r10 cut works better with a stone at r6

[10:43] Zaphodian[?]: R12 is better at Q12

[10:43] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: severe attack

[10:44] FinrodFelagund[2d]: You like q12 just to help the center fight more?

Move 40

[10:46] Picaresque[2d]: If b plays correctly w will die on r6

[10:46] Ectoplasm[?]: Who wins the liberty race if w decides to enclose completely?

Move 41

[10:46] Picaresque[2d]: But its about 30 moves to read

Move 42

[10:46] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: ohh can b run thesre stones out?

[10:46] Picaresque[2d]: Yes

[10:46] Picaresque[2d]: 1 lib diff

[10:46] Ectoplasm[?]: This variation could result in a quick game..

[10:46] Picaresque[2d]: B wins

[10:46] ronin3[2k]: cut! cut! cut!

[10:47] OndraKruml[?]: this is the type of situation that looks good for w at first glance, but can get pretty ugly very fast

[10:47] Picaresque[2d]: Yep

[10:47] ys3[1d]: it should be fine for w

[10:47] Picaresque[2d]: Not an easy one to read

Move 43

[10:48] ronin3[2k]: no cut :(

[10:48] Ectoplasm[?]: moment of truth

[10:49] malishevserafym[3k]: Leela zero say that this position bad for black, if white will play right? then black will die

[10:49] 竜宮レナ[3d]: classical KGS game ! !

[10:49] ys3[1d]: i guess it fortunate that bots arent playing this game then

[10:50] 竜宮レナ[3d]: rivalry for 10 years + !

[10:50] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: i agree that it looks really bad for black if those stones cant get out

[10:50] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: ^^

Move 44

[10:50] Ectoplasm[?]: wow

[10:50] ronin3[2k]: oh Tanguy starts the stream now

Move 45

[10:51] malishevserafym[3k]: m10 mistake for white((

Move 46

[10:51] 竜宮レナ[3d]: And this is the first time I know artem is a young handsome guy

[10:51] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Too dangerous for me

[10:52] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: complicated capturing race

[10:53] samqu[2k]: black is not reasonable

[10:54] Zaphodian[?]: Artem is not that young anymore. 10 years ago, he was young and handsome, Ryugo Lena.

[10:55] ys3[1d]: superboy

[10:56] Ectoplasm[?]: Now we know, don't play q4 without a pincer..

Move 47

[11:01] katapliksi[2k]: before M10 w+5.5 now it's about even

[11:02] Zaphodian[?]: Live commentary on https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation

[11:02] ys3[1d]: what the bot says means nothing if something happens with capturing race

[11:03] 游之刃[?]: Review: ##606821

Move 50

[11:05] Zaphodian[?]: P11 looks like a missclick...

[11:06] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Not missclick

[11:06] 陳逸菌[?]: Review: ##606824

[11:07] Ectoplasm[?]: if both capture two stones, looks much better for b imo

[11:07] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: exchange

[11:08] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: possible follow-up

[11:09] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Does look disappointing for white

[11:10] Picaresque[2d]: maybe b will take a trade

Move 54

[11:10] Picaresque[2d]: yep

Move 55

[11:10] Picaresque[2d]: looks like it

[11:11] Picaresque[2d]: i dont like this for w at all

Move 63

[11:14] MortalGreed[6k]: b even got g4 combo, 3 corners and all solid

[11:14] MortalGreed[6k]: w doesn't 100% alive yet with 0 territory

[11:14] ys3[1d]: hes about 99% alive

[11:14] MortalGreed[6k]: that's true

[11:14] Leidang[3k]: Is black's corner really alive?

[11:15] Whirly[2k]: yes

[11:15] MortalGreed[6k]: seems so

Move 65

[11:15] MortalGreed[6k]: with free w p2 it could be dead i think

[11:15] MortalGreed[6k]: but p2 is absent

[11:15] Whirly[2k]: with p2 it would be ko

Move 66

[11:15] MortalGreed[6k]: oh ty Whirly

[11:16] ys3[1d]: if anyhting black is less alive than white, though both are quite alive

Move 75

[11:18] MortalGreed[6k]: if c10 survives w just got nothing on all board

Move 77

[11:20] ys3[1d]: its gonna be quite a large fight

Move 79

[11:21] ys3[1d]: b wants to use his center turtle but is quite weak on top himself, and c10 doesnt have much of a base either

[11:21] ys3[1d]: i wouldnt be able to handle all of it

[11:22] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: Easy for B

[11:23] ys3[1d]: white has pokes too in whites shape and the turtle will help so, gonna be complicated

[11:23] tekken8[1k]: w should atleast get some points from this situation

Move 80

[11:23] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Complicy, but the pressure is on white

Move 81

[11:24] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Complicated*

[11:24] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W hopes for a splitting attack of three groups

Move 82

[11:25] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: A + B is less efficient than just playing at C

Move 87

[11:26] tekken8[1k]: as if it wasn't complicated enough

[11:26] MortalGreed[6k]: he just building on attack

[11:27] MortalGreed[6k]: also bot is not totally alive either

[11:27] FinrodFelagund[2d]: White has like 1 group that is completely alive

Move 88

[11:29] MortalGreed[6k]: tough for w

Move 95

[11:30] tekken8[1k]: wonder if white should have traded here

Move 96

[11:30] MortalGreed[6k]: b5 win ?

[11:30] MortalGreed[6k]: ah no, geta h9

Move 98

[11:34] You in mid air[4d]: b is torn between h10 and j9

[11:35] MortalGreed[6k]: k7 nice too

[11:35] You in mid air[4d]: i think he will end up choosing h10

[11:36] MortalGreed[6k]: ye h10 is best imo

Move 101

[11:38] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W's threat

Move 107

[11:39] MortalGreed[6k]: b5 instead of b2 was worse ?

[11:40] Picaresque[2d]: if b lives

[11:40] Picaresque[2d]: this is very bad for w

[11:40] ys3[1d]: big if true

Move 110

[11:41] hypergeometric[6k]: black B6 ?

[11:41] megaschaf[2k]: iv think black is going to die

Move 112

[11:43] MortalGreed[6k]: it's just 30 points

[11:44] alphaseek[7k]: B12 for black?

[11:44] MortalGreed[6k]: b12 is w already

[11:45] alphaseek[7k]: C12 sorry

[11:45] MortalGreed[6k]: c11 or c12, else w b10 and dead

[11:46] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: huge ko?

[11:46] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: different ko

Move 113

[11:46] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: yet another ko

[11:47] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Black just going for seki

[11:47] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Perhaps

[11:47] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Ko too risky

[11:47] alphaseek[7k]: Mortal c12 to connect, if w b10, b was safe

[11:48] MortalGreed[6k]: b10 only if not c11 or c12)

[11:48] 陳逸菌[?]: test

[11:48] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: locally B looks dead

[11:49] alphaseek[7k]: Yeah, it's all dead

[11:49] MortalGreed[6k]: not seki ?

Move 114

[11:49] MortalGreed[6k]: b alive

[11:50] MortalGreed[6k]: ah no

[11:50] MortalGreed[6k]: miscalculated

Move 115

[11:50] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: B dies but has many libs. and attacks with A or so

Move 116

[11:51] Zaphodian[?]: So W has rounding yp liberties to be able to kill B

Move 117

[11:52] matias32[?]: Variation: Seki

[11:52] matias32[?]: Variation: Ko

[11:54] Meolin[?]: b has E8

[11:54] B2 Bomber[1k]: black collapsed?

Move 118

[11:54] matias32[?]: I don't see a way to kill black locally except for ko

[11:55] MortalGreed[6k]: somebody will die

Move 123

[11:59] Meolin[?]: alive with E8

[12:00] MortalGreed[6k]: w should go b10 but then it's seki at best

[12:01] matias32[?]: I don't get this move... Couldn't he live with an outside move like b6 or c11?

[12:01] MortalGreed[6k]: it could be ko

[12:02] MortalGreed[6k]: and Ilya says "no ko!"

[12:02] MortalGreed[6k]: a9 is also the key point

[12:03] matias32[?]: Ok, thanks for answering my question

Move 124

[12:04] RM60[3k]: Think b has more ko threats than w

[12:04] You in mid air[4d]: matias32 b could ve lived with an outside move instead of b9 yes

Move 125

[12:05] You in mid air[4d]: and that move was e8 only

Move 126

[12:05] Zaphodian[?]: It's hard to find a way to die with a turtle

Move 129

[12:06] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W sidesteps the attack

Move 131

[12:08] MortalGreed[6k]: w must kill something

[12:08] RM60[3k]: Think w is trying to avoid strengthening the corner

Move 137

[12:10] tekken8[1k]: if w loses the top its pretty much over

[12:10] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W wants to find a way to save A before cutting

Move 139

[12:10] Zaphodian[?]: Variation: W tries something like this

[12:11] MortalGreed[6k]: l12-k12 - no ?

Move 140

[12:12] MortalGreed[6k]: oh no i see

Move 149

[12:18] FinrodFelagund[2d]: What was the aji there?

[12:18] MortalGreed[6k]: o16 - r16

[12:19] MortalGreed[6k]: with potential life in corner

Move 150

[12:20] MortalGreed[6k]: w still not alive

[12:21] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Yes, w is alive

Move 151

[12:21] MortalGreed[6k]: after p10-o9-o11 w has 1 eye

[12:22] FinrodFelagund[2d]: That's one of two half eyes

Move 152

[12:25] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Variation: 1

[12:26] MortalGreed[6k]: hmmm ye u right

Move 158

[12:27] ano1910[3k]: Review: ##606862

[12:27] tekken8[1k]: can get an aye at s4

[12:27] tekken8[1k]: eye

Move 163

[12:28] r.koiushev[?]: Review: ##606863

Move 167

[12:31] NomGhost[6k]: hey all

Move 170

[12:33] MortalGreed[6k]: Ilya is low on time

Move 172

[12:34] bensho[3d]: 1 min - 4 min

[12:34] bensho[3d]: not so much difference

[12:35] ys3[1d]: in the other games, pavol beat siasio in game 1, theyll play game 2 later today. andrii beat ali to get 7th place. 5th place game between oscar and lukan still going

Move 173

[12:35] MortalGreed[6k]: b died ?

[12:36] FinrodFelagund[2d]: This midgame is like one big tsumego

[12:36] Picaresque[2d]: w might die on the right

[12:37] Picaresque[2d]: i dont get why b didnt play o11 before k17

[12:37] MortalGreed[6k]: because gote ?

[12:37] Picaresque[2d]: o11 is gote?

[12:37] MortalGreed[6k]: ah no

[12:37] MortalGreed[6k]: i'm sleepy sorry

[12:37] FinrodFelagund[2d]: H18 connects in an emergency

[12:38] tekken8[1k]: o16 is sente

[12:39] Mrrr[1d]: H18 is ok

[12:39] MortalGreed[6k]: now it would be blitz

Move 177

[12:40] MortalGreed[6k]: b j14 is big ?

[12:40] Picaresque[2d]: w dead

[12:40] Picaresque[2d]: im afraid

[12:40] Mrrr[1d]: L19

[12:40] Picaresque[2d]: L19 O16\

[12:40] Picaresque[2d]: K19 is ko

Move 178

[12:40] Mrrr[1d]: you are right

Move 179

[12:41] Picaresque[2d]: oh not even ko

[12:41] Kamakiri[4k]: Oh is it S2?

[12:41] Picaresque[2d]: but ok w is alive :p

Move 180

[12:41] matias32[?]: Ouh yes, nice

[12:41] Picaresque[2d]: w wants to fight the semeai

Move 181

[12:42] gisel88[?]: w have no choice, needs to kill something or loses I guess

Move 183

[12:42] matias32[?]: Black is done

Move 190

[12:44] MortalGreed[6k]: w corner T-T

Move 195

[12:45] Kamakiri[4k]: Variation: Something?

[12:45] MortalGreed[6k]: amm

[12:45] matias32[?]: I judged too early ^^

[12:45] MortalGreed[6k]: l19 k14 m19 ?

Move 198

[12:46] Kamakiri[4k]: Variation: Not a solution I guess

Move 199

[12:47] MortalGreed[6k]: resign ?

Move 203

[12:47] tekken8[1k]: huge capturing race

[12:48] Picaresque[2d]: what race

[12:48] Picaresque[2d]: w is just dead

Move 204

[12:48] MortalGreed[6k]: s2 is tricky

Move 205

[12:48] kriwenkow[?]: как всегда все жестко

[12:48] MortalGreed[6k]: but w lacks liberties

[12:48] tekken8[1k]: b is dead too

Move 206

[12:49] OndraKruml[?]: this fight was really complex, interconected in so many ways

Move 210

[12:50] tekken8[1k]: w does lack liberties

[12:50] matias32[?]: Yes I think now white dies...

Move 211

[12:51] matias32[?]: Incredible by Ilya

Move 214

[12:51] tekken8[1k]: w should have n15 way before

Move 218

[12:52] MortalGreed[6k]: could it be seki ?

Move 219

[12:52] tekken8[1k]: nope

Move 231

[12:53] MortalGreed[6k]: but w could kill b in right by ko

[12:53] ronin3[2k]: wowow

[12:53] MortalGreed[6k]: it doesn't matter though

Move 232

[12:53] tymak[1d]: E3 and try kill all?

Move 234

[12:53] ronin3[2k]: whaat

Move 235

[12:53] tekken8[1k]: wow

Move 237

[12:53] matias32[?]: Shouldn't white have prepared a threat?

[12:53] ronin3[2k]: phew

[12:53] Picaresque[2d]: no way w wins this ko

[12:54] MortalGreed[6k]: o19 ?

[12:54] ys3[1d]: prepare a threat where

[12:54] tymak[1d]: how can you prepare ko for that?

[12:54] ronin3[2k]: need a second goban

[12:54] megaschaf[2k]: over

[12:54] Mrrr[1d]: :)

Move 238

[12:54] Picaresque[2d]: this ko is 75 points

[12:54] Palko[2p]: it's 140

[12:54] Mrrr[1d]: more

[12:54] MortalGreed[6k]: just p13

[12:54] Picaresque[2d]: haha yes

[12:54] ronin3[2k]: biding his time?

[12:54] tekken8[1k]: over 9000!

[12:55] yakoke[?]: finish him

Move 240

[12:55] ronin3[2k]: yas!!

[12:55] Picaresque[2d]: w thinks he has a chance?

[12:55] Picaresque[2d]: ..

Move 241

[12:55] Mrrr[1d]: white wanted to kill something to have a small satisfaction, now he can resign

[12:56] MortalGreed[6k]: actually w kills 2 groups

[12:56] Palko[2p]: I count black+10

[12:56] MortalGreed[6k]: though it doesn't matter right now

[12:56] LVL79[7k]: Спасибо за удивительную партию!!!

[12:56] artem92[2p]: thanks

[12:56] FinrodFelagund[2d]: Gg

[12:56] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: gg!!

[12:56] ronin3[2k]: this was mental!

[12:56] Mrrr[1d]: amazing game!

[12:56] s_kol[3k]: thats amazing!

[12:56] roln90[3p]: thanks