Ranked
Rules: Japanese
White wins by 0.5 points
buzzsaw[9k]: have a good game
tobiasbui1234[10k]: have a good game
buzzsaw[9k]: Glad we could arrange the game
tobiasbui1234[10k]: how are you today
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I just woke up
buzzsaw[9k]: you have black
buzzsaw[9k]: I am fine
buzzsaw[9k]: It is 9 pm here
buzzsaw[9k]: nearly ready for bed
Move 1
buzzsaw[9k]: 12 hours difference is tough for scheduling
Move 2
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea
Move 208
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I think its over
buzzsaw[9k]: yeah just one dame
Move 210
tobiasbui1234[10k]: oh my god
buzzsaw[9k]: it happens
buzzsaw[9k]: pretty cool
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea
buzzsaw[9k]: you will need to accept
tobiasbui1234[10k]: good game
buzzsaw[9k]: Thanks for the game
buzzsaw[9k]: It was a really interesting one
tobiasbui1234[10k]: thanks very much for the game
buzzsaw[9k]: yeah it was great
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea my heart was pounding
buzzsaw[9k]: of course it would have been greater for you if it was one point different
buzzsaw[9k]: but to me these 0.5 games are always good
buzzsaw[9k]: I was counting
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea, too bad I lost the first tournament game ever
buzzsaw[9k]: and I wasn't sure
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I was only estimating
buzzsaw[9k]: cause it was so freaking close
buzzsaw[9k]: oh this is your first tournament game ever?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yes
buzzsaw[9k]: be proud it was a half point
buzzsaw[9k]: that is fantastic
buzzsaw[9k]: oh btw.... a little tip.... try to arrange the time starting Monday rather than putting it off
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I think I start to love tournament like this
buzzsaw[9k]: We could have gotten this arranged earlier
buzzsaw[9k]: I had to cancel a different league game to play at this time
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I'm new to leago
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I might find some guide later
buzzsaw[9k]: Try to get to know how it works
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea but people play way too seriously here
tobiasbui1234[10k]: and that is good
buzzsaw[9k]: people are very serious
tobiasbui1234[10k]: better than finding a match
tobiasbui1234[10k]: that is very good for growth
buzzsaw[9k]: Yeah the time controls are great
buzzsaw[9k]: and people take it seriously
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I think you may have missed some sente
buzzsaw[9k]: I probably did
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I think you reacted to my moves more than necessary once or twice
buzzsaw[9k]: I should Yilun Yang look at it
buzzsaw[9k]: He is one of my teachers
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I played that move, thinking like, "$*!% that is gote"
buzzsaw[9k]: that is probably true
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but you still react
buzzsaw[9k]: I think I remember thinking that one of them I should have ignored
tobiasbui1234[10k]: awesome game
tobiasbui1234[10k]: any tips for me?
buzzsaw[9k]: Not really. You played really well
buzzsaw[9k]: not sure the invasion so early in the upper right was to your benefit
buzzsaw[9k]: cause it helped me build the top
tobiasbui1234[10k]: my center was toreduce your massive walls
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but
buzzsaw[9k]: I think the only reason I won was because I destroyed the center
buzzsaw[9k]: Look at all those stones in the center
tobiasbui1234[10k]: if only my center has made one more point
tobiasbui1234[10k]: what?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: you destroyed it?
buzzsaw[9k]: I mean that could have been territory
tobiasbui1234[10k]: i thought i rediced yours
buzzsaw[9k]: but it ended up being our stones
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea
buzzsaw[9k]: You did reduce my top
buzzsaw[9k]: but then I went into your center
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I wasn't thinking about that as territory
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but I should,
tobiasbui1234[10k]: probably
buzzsaw[9k]: This game could have gone either way
buzzsaw[9k]: half a point is nothing
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea
buzzsaw[9k]: I play in NAOL and they use AGA rules
tobiasbui1234[10k]: my invasion
buzzsaw[9k]: so dame matter
tobiasbui1234[10k]: can u help
tobiasbui1234[10k]: what move is that
buzzsaw[9k]: the invasion at the upper right?
buzzsaw[9k]: it was the correct move
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yes
buzzsaw[9k]: but it may have been early
buzzsaw[9k]: Not sure if we played it out as expected
buzzsaw[9k]: I am only 9k
buzzsaw[9k]: so I still have a lot to learn
tobiasbui1234[10k]: what number was that move
tobiasbui1234[10k]: i cant seem to find it
buzzsaw[9k]: Variation: move 17
buzzsaw[9k]: quite early
tobiasbui1234[10k]: upper left
buzzsaw[9k]: yeah
buzzsaw[9k]: I guess that was your only invasion
buzzsaw[9k]: I probably should have invaded the right side
buzzsaw[9k]: split
buzzsaw[9k]: it
buzzsaw[9k]: but I could not split the right and the bottom both
buzzsaw[9k]: so I split the bottom
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea I was sweating, hoping u dont invade
buzzsaw[9k]: Variation: this might have been more severe
buzzsaw[9k]: Variation: you played this
buzzsaw[9k]: you played n4 to give me a two space extension that pincered your f4 stones
buzzsaw[9k]: stone
buzzsaw[9k]: which I was happy about
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea
tobiasbui1234[10k]: now to think about it
tobiasbui1234[10k]: that is a better move
buzzsaw[9k]: Variation: I have never seen this move
tobiasbui1234[10k]: that is from
tobiasbui1234[10k]: Kajiwara
tobiasbui1234[10k]: himself
tobiasbui1234[10k]: in the course on gomagic
buzzsaw[9k]: oh interesting
tobiasbui1234[10k]: he played that and it is so cool
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but might not be the best here, idk
buzzsaw[9k]: How do people respond to it?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: that's the thing, that move is far away, so you can't really pressure it right away
tobiasbui1234[10k]: so I can skip a few moves if you pressure that stone, to continue building moyo
tobiasbui1234[10k]: if that move is close to your corner stone
tobiasbui1234[10k]: you can pincer it right away, then, its a running fight, right?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I don't do good with running fight :(
buzzsaw[9k]: I don't think I would pincer it
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea if it's a 1 space approach, you would
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but it is 2 space approach, too light to pincer
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but the move you showed me is really good
buzzsaw[9k]: I did it based on what I know of the Clossi Approach
tobiasbui1234[10k]: would have weaken your stone and extended mine
buzzsaw[9k]: I made a base
tobiasbui1234[10k]: AI recommend 3-3 invasion from even move 10
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but AI always like invasion
buzzsaw[9k]: yeah and fights we can't follow up on
tobiasbui1234[10k]: so i don't think that invasion is early
tobiasbui1234[10k]: do you have a coach?
buzzsaw[9k]: If you have flexibility in your schedule you might like the BenKyo League
buzzsaw[9k]: you hear of BenKyo Baduk?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I am looking it up?
buzzsaw[9k]: There it is
buzzsaw[9k]: I am an admin in his league
buzzsaw[9k]: And it is a great community.
tobiasbui1234[10k]: there's online class?
buzzsaw[9k]: It is mostly European and North American but we have a guy from Australia and one from Singapore
buzzsaw[9k]: We have three classes a month
buzzsaw[9k]: and we have two ongoing leagues
buzzsaw[9k]: and you can win lesson time with Ben
buzzsaw[9k]: by winning your group
buzzsaw[9k]: it is 25 dollars a month
buzzsaw[9k]: If you decide to join tell Ben that I sent you
buzzsaw[9k]: we have a referral program.
tobiasbui1234[10k]: okay
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I will look forward into it
buzzsaw[9k]: so I will get some credit for it if you join
buzzsaw[9k]: thanks for looking at it
buzzsaw[9k]: getting value from it would depend on you having flexibility in your schedule I suppose
buzzsaw[9k]: but it is worth looking at.
buzzsaw[9k]: and Ben is a great teacher
tobiasbui1234[10k]: how do you find this, in comparison to GoMagic
tobiasbui1234[10k]: for me to grow
buzzsaw[9k]: Go Magic is great
buzzsaw[9k]: the videos
buzzsaw[9k]: but BenKyo League is a real community
buzzsaw[9k]: People watch and comment on each other's games
buzzsaw[9k]: and get to know each other
buzzsaw[9k]: I have a Magic Go Magic membership
tobiasbui1234[10k]: nice
buzzsaw[9k]: but I spend most of my time with BenKyo League
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I haven't checked out much about gomagic discord community
buzzsaw[9k]: There is activity there
tobiasbui1234[10k]: but if benkyo have a better community, i think i would switch
buzzsaw[9k]: Well you can try it for a month and see what you think
buzzsaw[9k]: you can join the free discord and hang out in the free channels
tobiasbui1234[10k]: is the leagues here paid to join?
buzzsaw[9k]: BenKyo League is 25 dollars
buzzsaw[9k]: Go Magic league is free
buzzsaw[9k]: You get a lot for 25 dollars though
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea that is actually awesome
tobiasbui1234[10k]: money's in, people would be serious
buzzsaw[9k]: and we have a great many class videos you can watch
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I just have one question
buzzsaw[9k]: you are right when people pay they take it seriously
tobiasbui1234[10k]: the live time, the time that classes happen
tobiasbui1234[10k]: what is it usually
buzzsaw[9k]: The classes happen at 10:30 AM on Saturday so it would probably be 10:30 PM for you
buzzsaw[9k]: which might not be too late for you
tobiasbui1234[10k]: nice
buzzsaw[9k]: You could do most of your games on the weekends if you wanted
buzzsaw[9k]: and depending on when you could play on week days you might be able to match up with people to play
tobiasbui1234[10k]: do league matches happen on weaken?
buzzsaw[9k]: You could try it for a couple months to see if you can deal with the time differences
buzzsaw[9k]: league matches happen when you schedule them
buzzsaw[9k]: we do not post a default time for them
buzzsaw[9k]: you have all month to schedule them
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I will look forward to it
buzzsaw[9k]: and most of us use Calendly
buzzsaw[9k]: to help schedule
tobiasbui1234[10k]: nice
tobiasbui1234[10k]: can I see the discord
tobiasbui1234[10k]: the free channels
buzzsaw[9k]: oh good
buzzsaw[9k]: say hello in a free channel
buzzsaw[9k]: ping me
buzzsaw[9k]: @buzzsaw
tobiasbui1234[10k]: once I joined, I should play the league right?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: if this gomagic league is already too much?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: oh god I asked so many questions
buzzsaw[9k]: When you join you may play as much or as little of the league as you want
buzzsaw[9k]: We do not have a requirement for a certain number of games
tobiasbui1234[10k]: okay, I think I will join the 10$ for the first month
tobiasbui1234[10k]: to see the community
buzzsaw[9k]: that is fine
buzzsaw[9k]: So happy to have you join us in the Study Group Tier
tobiasbui1234[10k]: yea I 'm already occupied with this gomagic league so I think I will join the study tier first
buzzsaw[9k]: That is a good idea.
buzzsaw[9k]: You will miss out on the League channel discussions but you can watch games being played because links will be posted to the Let's Play channel which is public.
buzzsaw[9k]: After the Go Magic league is over maybe you can switch to Tier 3.
buzzsaw[9k]: When you join make sure you sync your discord with Patron
buzzsaw[9k]: so you get the Study Group role
buzzsaw[9k]: That will give you access to the study group channel
buzzsaw[9k]: and to the class content channel
buzzsaw[9k]: What country are you located in?
tobiasbui1234[10k]: Im in Vietnam
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I was going away a bit
tobiasbui1234[10k]: I cant seem to find the channel on discord
tobiasbui1234[10k]: only rules
tobiasbui1234[10k]: do I pay now to get in the chat?
buzzsaw[9k]: You have to join via Patreon to get access to the study group channel and get the study group role
buzzsaw[9k]: the pattern link is at that web site I gave you
buzzsaw[9k]: Patreon*
buzzsaw[9k]: not pattern
buzzsaw[9k]: I think he has links to the tiers
buzzsaw[9k]: and you can join through those links
buzzsaw[9k]: that will take you to his Patreon
buzzsaw[9k]: Let me know if you have trouble. You can always email me.
buzzsaw[9k]: I have to go now
February 23, 2024
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