Game Finished

Move 54

Sadaharu[6d]

28 points

mark5000[5d]

35.5 points

Ranked

Rules: Chinese

Tie by Moderator Decision

Reviews

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giovanni.andrew9[1k] - view

Move 1

September 11, 2024

[16:10] mark5000[5d]: Have a good Alan Turing torunament

Move 46

October 10, 2024

[13:53] mark5000[5d]: Will OGS Chinese Rules permit Black 55 at A4?

[13:54] mark5000[5d]: Variation: I don't think they will...

Move 54

[14:48] Sadaharu[6d]: Wait, it's not eternal life?

[14:48] Sadaharu[6d]: Superko rule is active?

[14:49] Sadaharu[6d]: Since when Chinese rules have superko rules

[14:51] Sadaharu[6d]: I thought this would be eternal life under Chinese rules

[14:53] Sadaharu[6d]: First time encountering this. Not sure how to handle this

[14:53] Sadaharu[6d]: I didn't expect the system to prevent me from playing A4 though

[14:53] mark5000[5d]: Yeah, I was expecting a rules dispute at about the mid move 20s. I couldn’t steer to avoid the result, so it became inevitable.

[14:53] mark5000[5d]: I’m fine with a pause to discuss on the forums.

[14:54] Sadaharu[6d]: Lol it's okay to discuss an ongoing game on the forums?

[14:54] mark5000[5d]: It’s practically concluded

[14:55] Sadaharu[6d]: I thought usually we should call the moderator, which I did

[14:55] Sadaharu[6d]: But you mean the moderator also can't decide so we leave it to the people in the forums?

[14:56] mark5000[5d]: I meant if you considered it a bug and wanted public awareness of the implementation here. Of course I’m fine calling moderation. I’ll abstain from any decision.

[14:57] mark5000[5d]: Chinese vs. OGS-Chinese is well-known enough that KataGo has separate settings for them and considers them different rule sets.

[14:59] Sadaharu[6d]: Yeah I knew there were two settings, I just haven't encountered any games that made a difference yet

[14:59] mark5000[5d]: Here lies Exhibit A

[15:02] Sadaharu[6d]: Hmm I tried by changing the katago setting to chinese-ogs rules

[15:02] Sadaharu[6d]: It still allows me to play A4

[15:03] Sadaharu[6d]: Anyway since you are okay I'll post on the forum as you suggested. Maybe the moderator will take notice because of that too

[15:11] Sadaharu[6d]: I was excited when I saw the eternal life but now I'm just shocked lol

October 11, 2024

[8:12] BHydden[7k]: I am ending this game as jigo as authorised by gamesorry. At time of game end Mark has 12 points and Sadaharu has 8, so hopefully both gain half a point.

[8:13] BHydden[7k]: Tournament points seemed to update correctly. GG

October 12, 2024

[6:02] gamesorry[2d]: Thanks BHydden for the help, and good game everyone!

[8:03] LertWasana[2k]: Review: ##1348568

[14:26] giovanni.andrew9[1k]: Review: ##1348773

January 1, 2025

[3:42] wxwxw[2d]: Wow first time to see an example of eternal life in a full game