[Champ LRA][2023][Chambéry] Ronde 2 Table 1 - Motoki Noguchi (7d) vs Aim Warren (2d)

Move 150

Aim Warren[2d]

2 captures

Noguchi Motoki[7d]

2 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

Review by: ...

Move 0

April 22, 2023

[11:43] LRA1[?]: start à 2pm - commence à 14h

[11:43] LRA1[?]: temps fisher 50mn/15s by move

[11:43] Rorin Kaiho[3d]: motoki sensei

[11:43] Rorin Kaiho[3d]: Le boss

[11:44] LRA1[?]: yep il vise le titre de champion de la ligue Rhône Alpes

[11:45] Rorin Kaiho[3d]: malheureusement pour lui ya Théo qui joue :p

[11:46] denizy[15k]: the game is very good and bat

[11:49] denizy[15k]: and ı m so sorry bat ı can t not speak francais

[11:49] denizy[15k]: sorry franch

[11:50] denizy[15k]: i speak english and turkhish

[11:50] Chlowski[1k]: Impatient to see Motoki's opening

[11:51] denizy[15k]: one game Cholowski one game please and please

[11:55] Chlowski[1k]: sorry I'm gonna watch this game :)

[11:55] LRA1[?]: Hello everybody, you could see the pairing of the round 2 of the championnat de ligue rhône alpes here : https://ligue-rhonealpes.jeudego.org/2023/03/championnat-lra-2023/

[11:56] LRA1[?]: 20 players from 7d to 8k

[11:56] LRA1[?]: the 2 players are at the table we start soon

[11:58] yahel.or.3[3d]: There is a camera to see the actors or a picture?

[11:58] LRA1[?]: no video, sorry :)

[11:59] yahel.or.3[3d]: Ok, you can send a picture?

[11:59] LRA1[?]: starting now

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[12:00] yahel.or.3[3d]: good luck to you

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[12:01] Charlie-B[9k]: good game

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[12:02] Top...delete...pun[8k]: hi

[12:02] yahel.or.3[3d]: HI

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[12:04] yahel.or.3[3d]: Dan 7 is a strange starter, maybe he thought he was talking about a weak player but he is putting himself at risk

[12:04] LRA1[?]: Warren stand up and go outside the room

[12:04] Piwh[4k]: Ayyyyy let's go

[12:05] Dalan[1d]: judging from what another person said, I think motoki just likes nonstandard openings.

[12:05] LRA1[?]: @yahelor nope is not the Motoki style to consider a player week

[12:05] LRA1[?]: weak*

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[12:05] Chlowski[1k]: Motoki likes somewhat unconventional fusekis

[12:05] yahel.or.3[3d]: I would love one picture of the actors thanks in advance

[12:05] Piwh[4k]: wow. Brutal drop down. Is this uncharted territory ?

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[12:06] yahel.or.3[3d]: Q4?

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[12:08] Dalan[1d]: fight local or to attach under one of the 3-4 points

[12:09] yahel.or.3[3d]: Well, it looks like a white rascal to find the right move

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[12:09] Dalan[1d]: judging from the opening, I think it will have creativity

[12:11] LRA1[?]: Warren is at 10cm of the goban looking at vertical and looking for sequence

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[12:16] Dalan[1d]: how many rounds is the tournament?

[12:17] LRA1[?]: 5 rounds it's the 2nd

[12:18] LRA1[?]: the next round is at 4pm / 4:30pm (french time)

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[12:20] LRA1[?]: clock : 38min for Warren and 47mn for Motoki

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[12:20] LRA1[?]: (time fisher 50mn and 15s/by each move)

[12:21] yahel.or.3[3d]: ty ok

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[12:23] awareplay2000[11k]: why are they making small moves? Like what does C10 do?

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[12:24] LRA1[?]: Warren ha taken a full hand of black stones

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[12:25] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: White life base is at stake, so moves in this area are sente

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[12:25] awareplay2000[11k]: Did C10 treathen white life?

[12:25] Volker_S_Halstenbek[1d]: b will end up w/o territory :-(

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[12:25] awareplay2000[11k]: G7 to reduce mojo?

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[12:26] LRA1[?]: G7 to prepare a cut at E7

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[12:27] awareplay2000[11k]: I am no good at seeing when something is alive or not, to me it feels like white is plenty strong to make 2 eyes, but I must be wrong

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[12:27] LRA1[?]: Variation: this cut

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[12:28] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: It's important to not make a small life too. If you let the opponent get a gigantic strength outside, 2 points living isn't much

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[12:29] awareplay2000[11k]: that makes sense, thanks, I am very new at Go so just trying to learn

[12:29] LRA1[?]: you free to ask is how you learn

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[12:29] awareplay2000[11k]: appreciate it

[12:29] segev60000[3k]: w in total control he difuse that b infulance , i would prefer w here

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[12:30] awareplay2000[11k]: yea, was thinking the same, the C-row has seemingly been rendered harmless, though could create some mojo out of it later on I guess?

[12:30] awareplay2000[11k]: but White bottom mojo looks huge

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[12:30] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Les pairings sont disponibles quelque part ?

[12:30] LRA1[?]: https://ligue-rhonealpes.jeudego.org/2023/03/championnat-lra-2023/

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[12:31] segev60000[3k]: w cant make really good thing on bottom, but center is mroe like it

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[12:31] awareplay2000[11k]: I see

[12:31] awareplay2000[11k]: why can't he make something good at bottom?

[12:31] LRA1[?]: Toru Immamura was lloking the game

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[12:31] segev60000[3k]: but also nto need to put so much energy there board still empty and thats very hard moyo to maintain

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[12:31] awareplay2000[11k]: yea, true

[12:31] segev60000[3k]: he need mroe than one stone to secure bottom, also you can see now

[12:32] awareplay2000[11k]: would O2 have been too slow for white earlier?

[12:32] awareplay2000[11k]: not enough influence to secure bottom

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[12:32] segev60000[3k]: yea because he need more than one stone to secure that moyo and b pretty strong there

[12:33] awareplay2000[11k]: I like how white pacified black outside on the left, but think black still pretty decent now with corner? Guess it will be about how black deals with F-G-rows

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[12:33] awareplay2000[11k]: oh that looks strong

[12:34] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Game feel even for now

[12:34] segev60000[3k]: yup it does

[12:34] awareplay2000[11k]: C17 felt really strong, curious to see how black will handle it

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[12:35] awareplay2000[11k]: is R17 for white a viable play or do you lose that fight always?

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[12:35] segev60000[3k]: b will probably give corner in order to have advatge on the top

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[12:36] awareplay2000[11k]: I think if black would have given corner and top sight might be too much

[12:36] LRA1[?]: Clock : black 32min white 43min

[12:37] segev60000[3k]: the problm with taking coners, that pretty strong, that it makes infulance and great potential, r17 can be deadly for w when board that empty

[12:37] awareplay2000[11k]: I see, yea that makes sense

[12:37] segev60000[3k]: if b q18 its slow, no need to hurry there

[12:38] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Would like to hane here

[12:38] awareplay2000[11k]: on G17?

[12:38] segev60000[3k]: w should take corner now

[12:38] LRA1[?]: localy q17 would be better than Q18 i think

[12:39] segev60000[3k]: q17 problem because you lack ladder

[12:39] segev60000[3k]: of my bad you dont lack :)

[12:40] awareplay2000[11k]: mind playing the ladder? I don't see it at all?

[12:40] segev60000[3k]: go with q16 ladder, its ok for w i misread

[12:40] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Feel like white moyo will be massive if he want to

Move 0 + 48

[12:41] LRA1[?]: remind me an old joseki :)

[12:41] segev60000[3k]: building center cant be with one stone, still early

[12:42] awareplay2000[11k]: seems tempting for black to take corner I think?

[12:42] segev60000[3k]: giving b corner that should be intresting now

[12:42] awareplay2000[11k]: black still has left side to reduce white moyo

[12:42] awareplay2000[11k]: and bottom side

[12:42] segev60000[3k]: w still dont have moyo, he cant build it that easily lol

[12:43] awareplay2000[11k]: yea, I guess influence

[12:43] LRA1[?]: moyo are not for points it's for fight

[12:43] awareplay2000[11k]: feels like black could be ahead with 2.5 corners

[12:43] awareplay2000[11k]: I thought moyo was like empty space you loosely surrounded?

[12:44] segev60000[3k]: yea but o2 make things complicated there

[12:44] segev60000[3k]: w have no shape to evolve that yet

[12:44] awareplay2000[11k]: I see

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[12:45] segev60000[3k]: c15

[12:45] awareplay2000[11k]: why was black thinking so long about C18? wait.. they split the corner that way

[12:45] segev60000[3k]: because if he b18 and w c15 its problem

[12:46] segev60000[3k]: c15 i belive he win the semai without so much complications, lets see

[12:47] awareplay2000[11k]: how does Q10 look to you? if this corner is resolved? What is the next biggest move for black?

[12:47] awareplay2000[11k]: what is semai?

[12:47] Trevoke[8k]: senseis: Semeai

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[12:47] segev60000[3k]: ummmm, semai is when two group fight who eat the group first

[12:47] awareplay2000[11k]: thanks

[12:47] LRA1[?]: Motoki do "yes" with this head

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[12:48] segev60000[3k]: oh thats bad for b

[12:48] awareplay2000[11k]: yea now white still gets top side

[12:48] awareplay2000[11k]: and eats away at corner?

[12:48] segev60000[3k]: not just that, w get really strong infulance

[12:49] LRA1[?]: I think we learn a lot from 7d move :)

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[12:49] segev60000[3k]: wonder why not c15 , maybe he saw something

[12:49] awareplay2000[11k]: wow that looked ugly from black why E18 instead of D18?

[12:50] LRA1[?]: d18 bad shape, and now with e18 you could strike at G18

[12:50] segev60000[3k]: oh you want g18, there isnt liberty problem for b to take e18

[12:50] segev60000[3k]: g18 in yose not now

[12:50] awareplay2000[11k]: alright, thanks!

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[12:50] awareplay2000[11k]: didn't realize that was bad shape

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[12:51] Trevoke[8k]: Variation: I think it's because if B plays D18 the corner is dead, but don't take my word for it

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[12:51] awareplay2000[11k]: white really gave black an ugly corner

[12:51] segev60000[3k]: if thats aji had ladder :/

[12:51] Trevoke[8k]: I'm not sure this variation makes sense

[12:51] Trevoke[8k]: so proofread requested :p

[12:51] segev60000[3k]: what do you mean tre?

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[12:52] Trevoke[8k]: The variation I shared, I don't know if it makes sense. I suggest that if B D18 then corner only has one eye.

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[12:53] segev60000[3k]: ah well in that varitation you have liberty for dangerous cut, but also d18 is no need better e18

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[12:54] segev60000[3k]: if w make weak shape on corner that have liberty and no eyes, its can be very false for w

[12:54] segev60000[3k]: on b corner*

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[12:56] LRA1[?]: black was not sure for R16, he stoped twice before playing it

[12:57] segev60000[3k]: yea he was desprate for sente and hard to know if r16 lack is enough

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[12:57] Darkhan[6k]: Hello, is there any stream about this game on twitch ?

[12:57] LRA1[?]: moyo mojo

[12:57] awareplay2000[11k]: O.. that's a daring move?

[12:58] LRA1[?]: no stream sorry

[12:58] awareplay2000[11k]: guess just a probe

[12:58] Darkhan[6k]: No problem thanks for your answer :)

[12:58] awareplay2000[11k]: should black be worried on left side at all? seems like it could become in danger or?

[12:59] awareplay2000[11k]: I guess he can make eyes at bottom for sure?

[12:59] segev60000[3k]: it likely to be alive its ok

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[12:59] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Feel like w has more potential, b think he need to act because he will lose otherwise

[12:59] LRA1[?]: clock black : 20min white 39min

[13:00] awareplay2000[11k]: yea definitely feels like uphill struggle for black

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[13:00] segev60000[3k]: i feel w only lead at best with komi, i wouldnt say he desprate yet

[13:00] segev60000[3k]: o6 was good move

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[13:00] awareplay2000[11k]: I think bottom side will decide game

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[13:01] awareplay2000[11k]: is 17 row for white dead?

[13:01] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Still a close game probably, but small margin is enough

[13:01] awareplay2000[11k]: no, black is dead on N-row right?

[13:01] segev60000[3k]: ah no awareplay, n17 was to get the n15 sente

[13:01] awareplay2000[11k]: why did he make that attack?

[13:01] awareplay2000[11k]: I see

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[13:01] segev60000[3k]: because b searhc to make the right side

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[13:02] segev60000[3k]: also leave good threat in case of ko

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[13:02] Trevoke[8k]: B has roughly 30 points on the board - and W on the board has roughly 25, so with komi, game is still even at the moment

[13:03] awareplay2000[11k]: interesting

[13:03] segev60000[3k]: seem about right

[13:03] LRA1[?]: komi is 7.5 here in France

[13:03] awareplay2000[11k]: at what point does something like N2 secure the bottom?

[13:04] Trevoke[8k]: Maybe I'm underestimating the players but I think that still means the game is roughly even :)

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[13:04] segev60000[3k]: when w will seal top somehow, he maybe will search for cut soon

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[13:06] segev60000[3k]: p7 in good position, but seem slow

[13:06] segev60000[3k]: wonder

[13:06] awareplay2000[11k]: is something like M6 viable or too slow?

[13:06] Trevoke[8k]: N2 isn't very good yet because it's unclear what will happen with the N6 boundary

[13:06] awareplay2000[11k]: makes sense yea

[13:06] segev60000[3k]: yea m6 too slow, w not leading that much

[13:06] Trevoke[8k]: But N2 has the potential to be a very large endgame move, over 10 points I think

[13:07] awareplay2000[11k]: what about M13?

[13:07] segev60000[3k]: i think he counting if p7 enough

[13:07] awareplay2000[11k]: what makes P7 good?

[13:07] segev60000[3k]: p8 trap in ladder if need

[13:07] segev60000[3k]: r9 fix it

[13:08] awareplay2000[11k]: r9 for black?

[13:08] awareplay2000[11k]: seems like that might help black strenghten moyo

[13:08] segev60000[3k]: but b can decide to o8 and have enoguht to win, really hard to say

[13:09] segev60000[3k]: r9 occupy by w , also a ladder fix to take p8

[13:09] Trevoke[8k]: M13 for W would be an overplay (get cut off), M13 for B would invite W to build more strength in the center by playing near the sector line - maybe N11 or something - and while that means B willpotentially enclose another 7 or 8 points, W's position in the center will yield more potential points for W

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[13:09] Trevoke[8k]: I was just about the talk about the cut at P7

[13:09] awareplay2000[11k]: this is interesting move

[13:09] Trevoke[8k]: It's a shape move, which is always nice

[13:10] Trevoke[8k]: it's where B would want to play to make the table shape

[13:10] awareplay2000[11k]: what is a shape move?

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[13:10] segev60000[3k]: yea my second thought, it can be sente to get also n6

[13:10] Trevoke[8k]: a shape move either creates a known shape on the board or prevents the opponent from making a known shape on the board

[13:10] segev60000[3k]: but w need to be creative now because he is behind

[13:10] awareplay2000[11k]: I see thanks

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[13:10] Trevoke[8k]: senseis: Shape

[13:11] awareplay2000[11k]: is the table always crooked?

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[13:11] Trevoke[8k]: If you're asking whether multiple different shapes have the same name, the answer is no, though sometimes you have a "small something" and a "large something" for instance

[13:12] awareplay2000[11k]: right, cool

[13:13] awareplay2000[11k]: what is the danger of cutting here? That black runs rampant and connects to his left side?

[13:13] awareplay2000[11k]: for white on N2 that is

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[13:14] segev60000[3k]: he b smart he will take points on the elft side

[13:14] segev60000[3k]: if b*

[13:14] Trevoke[8k]: Now that M6 is on the board, W needs this area to become points

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[13:14] awareplay2000[11k]: is this really a viable attack? I am so surprised that he thinks he can kill that shape

[13:14] segev60000[3k]: yose moves

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[13:15] segev60000[3k]: was for pont not for kill

[13:15] Trevoke[8k]: it's a reduction, possibly trying to set up a liberty shortage to get some forcing moves around B12

[13:15] awareplay2000[11k]: I see that makes more sense

[13:15] Trevoke[8k]: it also helps ensure that the B group is alive no matter what, which is important because now this area needs to get resolved somehow

Move 0 + 101

[13:16] Trevoke[8k]: Which among other things means B really wants to get a move either at G9 or ... Well... Somewhere in the center, to reduce further.

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[13:16] awareplay2000[11k]: yea white really setting up for rather large moyo

[13:16] Trevoke[8k]: Oops.

[13:16] segev60000[3k]: cant belive w caught that sente

[13:17] LRA1[?]: timing, 7d timing always impressive

[13:17] awareplay2000[11k]: you think white has been sitting on D2 threat all along just waiting for right moment?

[13:17] WhithaKyuKyu[2k]: Had my eyes thee since g17

[13:17] segev60000[3k]: i got to say b for 2d agaisnt 7d old his own pretty well :)

[13:18] awareplay2000[11k]: what is next for white? how far can he extend mojo? up to K12?

[13:19] segev60000[3k]: well its double edge sword, if w cant make center he will invade right side

[13:19] segev60000[3k]: thats is if b cant use that sente for something

[13:19] awareplay2000[11k]: what about L13? Is that too loose?

[13:19] segev60000[3k]: for who?

[13:19] awareplay2000[11k]: for white

[13:20] segev60000[3k]: well i would try to make attmept to invade firts and than l13

[13:20] LRA1[?]: clock black 11min white 34min

[13:20] awareplay2000[11k]: why would you like to invade first?

[13:20] segev60000[3k]: because it will make two scenrio, or w get wall for that center, or w will invade

[13:20] awareplay2000[11k]: you mean to keep sente?

[13:21] awareplay2000[11k]: makes sense

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[13:21] segev60000[3k]: because if b defend the attemp to invade w get wall and not one stone

[13:21] Trevoke[8k]: B played well but has not been aggressive enough in the game to keep the balance

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[13:21] awareplay2000[11k]: white really snapped off N10 saying NO :(

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[13:21] Trevoke[8k]: Which isn't to say that was easy to do

[13:21] segev60000[3k]: b still more than have a chance lol

[13:21] segev60000[3k]: he pull a good move

[13:22] awareplay2000[11k]: this looks pretty bad for blck now his right side is gone

[13:22] segev60000[3k]: the yose from this l11 aji will decide the game now

Move 0 + 109

[13:22] segev60000[3k]: right side is excnhge for center like i said b know he will lose like that

[13:22] segev60000[3k]: he have to reduce it a little to have a chance to take w territory

[13:22] Mbrez[3d]: ah but this gives the connection on the 2nd line for free this move no?

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[13:23] segev60000[3k]: thats why f10 for w is so crucial

[13:23] Trevoke[8k]: According to Score Estimator, which on OGS during reviews or when kibitzing is a low-playout katago, W is up by 15 now

[13:23] Mbrez[3d]: motoki goes solid

[13:23] awareplay2000[11k]: yea F10 was a great play

[13:23] segev60000[3k]: which move mbrez?

[13:24] Mbrez[3d]: I'd have ansr m3 and if black hane, just nobi

[13:24] Trevoke[8k]: But the game is sufficiently closed off that I think we can agree in the past 30 moves W has made ~25 points in the South area and B hasn't really made new points -- say generously 10 in the Northeast corner

[13:24] Mbrez[3d]: but probably that's more solid this ay, i didnt count

[13:24] segev60000[3k]: well center now more imprtnat than the 2 line there

[13:25] Mbrez[3d]: but if you can have both for -3 pts it's not a bad trade

[13:25] Mbrez[3d]: like, m3, if black hane on the top - cut, if on the lower side, nobi l6

Move 0 + 112

[13:26] segev60000[3k]: see your point

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[13:26] LRA1[?]: clack !

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[13:27] awareplay2000[11k]: he put that on the board with emphasis?

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[13:28] Mbrez[3d]: no this is very catastrophic

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[13:28] Mbrez[3d]: w

[13:29] awareplay2000[11k]: oh really.. huh, not seeing it yet, what did he do wrong?

[13:29] Mbrez[3d]: is it me or white is losing points to be solid?

[13:29] LRA1[?]: clock : black 5min white 35min

[13:29] Trevoke[8k]: you'd have to count, awareplay2000

[13:29] Trevoke[8k]: @mbrez no, I think you're right

[13:29] segev60000[3k]: yup you are right

[13:29] segev60000[3k]: probably feel the lead

[13:29] awareplay2000[11k]: how do you count efficiently? Or do you literally count every spot?

[13:29] segev60000[3k]: :)

Move 0 + 122

[13:31] Trevoke[8k]: Counting's kind of a big topic, but in short, during the game, there are some basic shapes that you can draw and count intersections inside to estimate points, and in order to do it fast you do it by pairs of intersections of groups of 5

[13:31] Trevoke[8k]: Variation: how many points is this?

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[13:31] awareplay2000[11k]: interesting, will be something for the future, guess that only starts being important if you are advanced player

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[13:31] Mbrez[3d]: but Motoki is right to be careful, last time we played rengo with warren against him and Baptiste (who beat Loïc 3d) and we won beautifully :p

[13:31] segev60000[3k]: this fight decide the game probably

Move 0 + 122

[13:32] awareplay2000[11k]: 13 points?

Move 0 + 129

[13:32] Mbrez[3d]: this looks very difficult for black, white had the lead and black has no space to live

Move 0 + 130

[13:32] Mbrez[3d]: and is short in time

[13:33] LRA1[?]: black 3.30min

[13:33] LRA1[?]: vs 36min

[13:33] Mbrez[3d]: this feels like resigne sequence :(

[13:33] GrapefruitGirl[7k]: Does white need to kill here?

[13:33] LRA1[?]: yeah Warren seems desperate

[13:33] segev60000[3k]: i think he have to make it diffcult, he is behind, but well i do agree i wouldnt push that much there

[13:33] Trevoke[8k]: I imagine B is going to atari L12 and try ... something

[13:33] Mbrez[3d]: black can die on the left now

Move 0 + 133

[13:34] Mbrez[3d]: or at least lose a big piece

[13:34] segev60000[3k]: yea thats the rpoblem

[13:34] Trevoke[8k]: oh indeed I missed that

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[13:34] awareplay2000[11k]: black can life on bottom left corner right?

Move 0 + 134

[13:34] Trevoke[8k]: no, bottom left corner gives one eye, not two

[13:35] segev60000[3k]: seem to me over

[13:35] Mbrez[3d]: actually maybe it's alive

Move 0 + 122

[13:35] awareplay2000[11k]: oh interesting

Move 0 + 134

[13:35] Trevoke[8k]: also don't take my word for it there are people better at reading than me in chat

Move 0 + 122

[13:35] awareplay2000[11k]: I think time alone makes this game over no?

Move 0 + 134

[13:35] GrapefruitGirl[7k]: Does A1 live for black because of B6?

[13:36] segev60000[3k]: yea i think a1 is when b has no liberty

[13:36] Mbrez[3d]: i think there is some miai between dead shape playing b4 and middle

[13:36] segev60000[3k]: b is alive i feel

[13:36] segev60000[3k]: but he would probably have to give c12

[13:36] Mbrez[3d]: because white can't threaten to cut the middle and kill an eye in sente, can he?

[13:37] LRA1[?]: 1min for black

Move 0 + 136

[13:37] segev60000[3k]: either way b lose, by points or by dying doesnt matter

Move 0 + 138

[13:38] Mbrez[3d]: ok g 13 was last move

[13:38] GrapefruitGirl[7k]: Where do you guys see the time?

[13:38] Mbrez[3d]: time-throw

[13:38] LRA1[?]: 30sec

[13:38] segev60000[3k]: lra announce it grap, it broadcasting

[13:38] LRA1[?]: 15sec

[13:38] awareplay2000[11k]: interesting game

Move 0 + 140

[13:39] LRA1[?]: bip bip 25sec by move

Move 0 + 142

[13:39] Mbrez[3d]: now black can die on the left

[13:39] LRA1[?]: 15sec by move sorry

Move 0 + 148

[13:40] awareplay2000[11k]: there is no way black can life right?

Move 0 + 150

[13:40] segev60000[3k]: nope

[13:40] segev60000[3k]: w not weak

[13:40] LRA1[?]: finish

[13:41] LRA1[?]: white win by resign

[13:41] LRA1[?]: thx for following this game :)

[13:41] segev60000[3k]: f10 by w probably was the tunrning point

[13:41] awareplay2000[11k]: thanks for broadcasting it

[13:41] segev60000[3k]: thx lra

Move 0 + 77

[13:42] awareplay2000[11k]: yea, I could see that be the case

Move 0 + 90

[13:42] awareplay2000[11k]: or E2 really to set it up

Move 0 + 107

[13:43] awareplay2000[11k]: thanks for the advice all

Move 0 + 91

[13:43] segev60000[3k]: i would n9 first but dunno

[13:43] segev60000[3k]: hard case

[13:44] LRA1[?]: next, round 3 at 4:30pm i think

[13:45] Trevoke[8k]: For those of us not in your timezone, you're ... GMT+1 ?

[13:50] chlorine[12k]: This seems to be organised from France so GMT+2. It's currently 15;50 in France

[13:51] Trevoke[8k]: Thank you

[13:51] GrapefruitGirl[7k]: So round 3 is in :40 mins

[13:51] GrapefruitGirl[7k]: ?

Move 0 + 20

[14:03] LRA1[?]: yeah something like that

[14:03] LRA1[?]: a lot of player are at 15sec by move (we hear bipbip a lot)

Move 0 + 103

April 23, 2023

[18:01] denizy[15k]: Variation: dy