TIGGRE - Ellie cup R5

Move 218

Neirynck Lucas[6d]

6 captures

Jabarin Ali[2p]

3 captures

+ 7.5

Unranked

Rules: AGA

Review by: ...

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January 28, 2024

[12:52] Sadaharu[5d]: What was Ali doing before this round?

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[13:00] NeonLights[1d]: being repressed

[13:01] Trevoke[8k]: Justice for Ali?

[13:01] NeonLights[1d]: come and see the komi inherent in the system

[13:01] Sadaharu[5d]: komi inherent in the system? what do you mean

[13:02] NeonLights[1d]: I'm talking about the holy grail

[13:02] EGF2[?]: ali is thinking longly for this one

[13:02] EGF2[?]: while lucas is roaming around

[13:02] NeonLights[1d]: thinking for a long time :)

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[13:03] EGF2[?]: to craft a plan I mean it's not a tsumego

[13:06] yahel.or.3[1d]: You can send a picture?

[13:07] yahel.or.3[1d]: How much time do they have?

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[13:07] Sadaharu[5d]: I guess they didn't set-up video cameras

[13:07] Sadaharu[5d]: Would be nice to have

[13:09] yahel.or.3[1d]: Someone had to tell them every round to send one picture to show us it's not fake this game

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[13:11] NeonLights[1d]: you heard about the fake tournament scandal then?

[13:11] yahel.or.3[1d]: Even if it was broadcast on video

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[13:13] NeonLights[1d]: in all seriousness, there was a guy who faked a whole bunch of tournaments

[13:13] Sadaharu[5d]: What for?

[13:14] Trevoke[8k]: I imagine the answer is either "money" or "social status"

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[13:14] yahel.or.3[1d]: Fake was just saying the intention to see the place they are playing

[13:14] EGF2[?]: We even have fake Inseong commentaries: https://www.twitch.tv/EuropeanGoFederation/

[13:15] Sadaharu[5d]: Lol

[13:15] Trevoke[8k]: I'm no longer clear on which conversation we're having

[13:15] Sadaharu[5d]: That Inseong is so small so it does look fake

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[13:16] Trevoke[8k]: It's not a deepfake

[13:16] Trevoke[8k]: You may have lost all trust in the EGF for one reason or another and I don't want to enter into that argument, but this particular thing is real

[13:16] NeonLights[1d]: this is very real and very good

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[13:18] Trevoke[8k]: How much time do they each have left?

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[13:20] EGF2[?]: Lucas 21min, Ali 26min

[13:20] Trevoke[8k]: Thanks!

[13:22] Trevoke[8k]: @NeonLights were they go tournaments that were faked? League of Legends? Tennis?

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[13:26] NeonLights[1d]: they were more the phantom tournament sort, rather than faked games

[13:27] Trevoke[8k]: So something like taking people's entrance fee and disappearing?

[13:31] yahel.or.3[1d]: How much time do they have left?

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[13:32] EGF2[?]: 17 min and 19 min

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[13:33] JanSimara[1p]: this pairing is different than what we see here https://tiggre-elliecup.jeudego.org/en/tirage-et-resultats/

[13:33] JanSimara[1p]: but it says 2024 so im pretty confused

[13:33] yahel.or.3[1d]: How much extra time do they have?

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[13:34] JanSimara[1p]: EGF do you have any idea about this inconsistence?

[13:35] EGF2[?]: I don't know what you are used to see, so no, sorry.

[13:35] JanSimara[1p]: just click on the link

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[13:35] JanSimara[1p]: its official tournament site

[13:35] yahel.or.3[1d]: OK TY

[13:35] Trevoke[8k]: He's the scribe, he can't really click on the link

[13:35] Sadaharu[5d]: I think he's busy scribing to see the site

[13:35] Trevoke[8k]: I'll mention this on the stream

[13:36] JanSimara[1p]: ok, thanks

[13:36] EGF2[?]: Hoo, I see. The parring on the site is wrong. Only the scpres are ok.

[13:36] Fenring.[1k]: what you see on website is ranking after round4 ,but its only a preview of r5 pairings

[13:36] Fenring.[1k]: so preview pairign can't be trusted

[13:37] EGF2[?]: Thanks, I'll tell the referies.

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[13:37] Fenring.[1k]: maybe related to the new software they usedfor the pairings

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[13:42] Sadaharu[5d]: Now L17 looks like a very bad exchange

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[13:44] Trevoke[8k]: @JanSimara it is a new pairing software, there was a little bug so the pairings were redrawn, but the bugged pairings were the ones who got published

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[14:09] EGF2[?]: 1 minute left for Ali

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[14:12] SlowOldMan[7k]: is s8 or R8 needed for B to live?

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[14:13] EGF2[?]: Yes, he needed a second eye on the side

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[14:16] SlowOldMan[7k]: B must kill the r6 group or he is toast

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[14:21] EGF2[?]: Well, if he makes 30 points at the south, it seems ok too, no ?

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[14:24] SlowOldMan[7k]: W has F2M7HJK6 as reducing moves