R1 British Championship Title Match

Move 54

Ho-Yeung Woo[6d]

2 captures

Yaoling Yang[7d]

3 captures

+ 7.5

Unranked

Rules: AGA

Review by: ...

Move 0

September 12, 2024

[16:30] iguana[1d]: Game 1 of the British Championship title match will begin at 11:00 on Sat 14 September 2024. Colours will be decided by nigiri shortly before the game.

September 14, 2024

[10:10] iguana[1d]: The format is best of 3.

[10:10] iguana[1d]: We will begin in 5 minutes.

Move 0 + 12

[10:24] katapliksi[1k]: time settings?

[10:24] iguana[1d]: 100 mins + 45 seconds Fischer time

[10:26] Peikai Xue[5d]: Typical Yaoling's opening😆

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[10:34] katapliksi[1k]: ty

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[10:57] AgingGuru[6k]: Good to see a decent turnout here and on KGS :-)

[10:58] iguana[1d]: 😁

Move 0 + 37

[10:59] Animiral[3d]: b is looking good so far

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[11:00] Animiral[3d]: I think he can ignore this and it will still be good

[11:01] iguana[1d]: Time on clocks: 1:30 black, 1:34 White

[11:01] AgingGuru[6k]: As a kyu player I would fine that move very hard to ignore

[11:02] AgingGuru[6k]: though waht I would do about it ...

[11:02] AgingGuru[6k]: *what

[11:02] mattkirk78[?]: Who has the advantage here? black (Woo)?

[11:03] AgingGuru[6k]: I understand the plan is a sealed move lunch break at 12:30-13:30 ...

[11:03] Animiral[3d]: another reason to ignore now is that before, b could push L14 in sente and grow. Now that white got this point, just extending does not have the same nice shape for b

Move 0 + 39

[11:03] Animiral[3d]: yep and he ignored

[11:05] iguana[1d]: The sealed move will begin sometime between 12:30–13:30, but we'll give the players some flexibility

[11:06] Animiral[3d]: mattkirk78, b feels better because he got the corners and w took the sides

Move 0 + 42

[11:10] Peikai Xue[5d]: Still a long game, both corners are not big and there's disgusting ko aji in top left corner.

Move 0 + 44

[11:12] Animiral[3d]: w is already going for it, this can't be good ^^

Move 0 + 48

[11:13] Animiral[3d]: sorry for my one-sided opinion but I'm just very sceptical of these timings

[11:14] AgingGuru[6k]: All opinions are valid ...

[11:14] AgingGuru[6k]: They may just not all be correct :-)

[11:15] Animiral[3d]: b isn't even out of local ko threats.

[11:15] mattkirk78[?]: Animiral....Thanks. I'm very new to go, coming from the chess world. As I live in China now, thought I'd finally explore Go!

[11:15] Animiral[3d]: d11?

[11:16] Animiral[3d]: welcome to the game then :) you will find that Go thinking will help your Chess too

[11:16] mattkirk78[?]: Great!

[11:17] AgingGuru[6k]: ... but you need to lose some chess concepts, for example sacrificing stones is more common in Go that sacrificing pieces in chess.

[11:17] Animiral[3d]: depends on your style lol

Move 0 + 50

[11:17] AgingGuru[6k]: True :-) I was recently teaching a 75 year odl beginner who had played chess all his life, and he struggled with giving up stones to make influence

[11:18] mattkirk78[?]: Yes....I have a lot to learn. Just grasped the basic rules so far.

[11:18] Animiral[3d]: check out tsumego, the equivalent of mating problems here :) OGS has a whole puzzle section

[11:19] mattkirk78[?]: OK.

[11:19] Animiral[3d]: the top left here is a nice tsumego, you can ask yourself if black is about to be captured or not

[11:20] Animiral[3d]: might be a bit hard for a new beginner ;-)

[11:20] timhunt[2d]: Top left is a very hard life-and-death!

[11:21] timhunt[2d]: Should B connect at B17?

[11:21] mattkirk78[?]: I think black...B17........in my very amateuer opinion :)

Move 0 + 49

[11:22] csessh[7k]: I thought you sacrifice pieces all the time in chess?

Move 0 + 50

[11:22] timhunt[2d]: That changes the nature of the ko, but in a good way or bad way?

Move 0 + 52

[11:23] mattkirk78[?]: csessh....some players, but the sacrifices are often unclear/difficult to calculate. If not, them it is basically an exchange.

[11:24] AgingGuru[6k]: As a kyu player I know I'm missing somethign about the importance of the moves around F8

[11:24] mattkirk78[?]: Already learning a lot following the Brit Champ tooday and the discussion forum.

Move 0 + 53

[11:25] AgingGuru[6k]: B has given up the top left group, what does he get in exchange?

[11:25] MeenOh[7k]: hi. i am a new for looking pro game

[11:25] Tschej[4k]: Its not yet away

Move 0 + 52

[11:26] pickupsomemilk[5d]: c13 still a B threat maybe?

[11:26] pickupsomemilk[5d]: not sure what else to do

Move 0 + 53

[11:26] Animiral[3d]: sooo... about that b17. black should not connect there after all, even if it can live :)

[11:26] pipi123456[1k]: he can play 3 move outsidw, at least worth 50 points

Move 0 + 54

[11:27] Animiral[3d]: Variation: white will not continue ko like this

Move 0 + 53

[11:27] timhunt[2d]: C13 not much of a threat right now, because A16 is an atari. It was a better threat at other points in the ko.

[11:27] mattkirk78[?]: Best beginner book on Go? To introduce solid basis for moving forward.

Move 0 + 53

[11:27] Animiral[3d]: Variation: instead if black lives like this, w will do a happy dance for all the profit in sente

Move 0 + 54

[11:28] timhunt[2d]: Thanks for those sequences Anmiral.

[11:28] timhunt[2d]: Only thing aobut B being alive, is that then the W group on hte L side is cut off, which lets B pressure it.

Move 0 + 53

[11:28] Animiral[3d]: There are numerous beginner books, but I would be hard-pressed to recommend any of them. The best way to learn is at your local Go club ^^

Move 0 + 53

[11:29] pipi123456[1k]: left up group worth about 40

Move 0 + 54

[11:29] mattkirk78[?]: Animiral....yes, you are probably right.

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[11:30] Tschej[4k]: I mean, I would have no idea if the group was worth saving or not. For white it has a value of 17 points I think?

Move 0 + 54

[11:31] Peikai Xue[5d]: Too good result for white. It's very difficult for black to get enough territory by attacking bottom right corner.

[11:32] iguana[1d]: Time reading: 1:14 Black and 1:31 White

Move 0 + 53

[11:32] pipi123456[1k]: left white change to good after eat black, so i think eat is more than 40

Move 0 + 54

[11:33] Animiral[3d]: timhunt, I think the group could handle itself :-) now it's completely safe anyway

Move 0 + 55

[11:33] pickupsomemilk[5d]: black should have ignored the first white threat

Move 0 + 54

[11:34] Animiral[3d]: pipi, the value is more than 30 in raw points, plus maybe a little for the thickness. But it took a ko to get there, so the value of every move in the ko is ~10+ points, not a lot

[11:35] Animiral[3d]: I would still choose black, but maybe the 5dans are right about f8 :)

Move 0 + 53

[11:35] pipi123456[1k]: AI say white win 6 if he eat

Move 0 + 54

[11:36] Animiral[3d]: ok :D

[11:36] Tschej[4k]: Conclusion: Ko's are always evil

[11:37] Peikai Xue[5d]: Normally strong players are better at dealing with weak group like bottom right white. Especially after getting solid profit at another place.

[11:38] Peikai Xue[5d]: If I play white now, in may lose the whole bottom left corner, but I believe Yaoling won't

[11:38] Animiral[3d]: was there better threats for b? or was the ko on time after all?

[11:39] Peikai Xue[5d]: Time was fine, but black should fight for the first ko instead of the second.

[11:41] pipi123456[1k]: yes.at least should use C13and D11

[11:41] timhunt[2d]: I was thinking about the 'best book for beginners' question, which is a bit hard because it is a long time since I was a beginner. Also, I can't think of just one, but there are three, which together would give you solid coverage of a lot of important knowledge: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tesuji-James-Davies/dp/4906574122, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Basics-Life-Death-Road-Shodan/dp/490657484X, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Opening-Theory-Strategic-Principles-Improve/dp/490657436X

[11:41] timhunt[2d]: That needs the be combined with playing a lot.

[11:42] timhunt[2d]: And, these days, books are not the only option. There is a lot of good stuff on YouTube

[11:42] timhunt[2d]: E.g. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLW5_cMTm0wvamCNX7qNoUqbXxeHt9n67i

[11:43] iguana[1d]: Move has been sealed after B thinking 15 mins

[11:43] iguana[1d]: Time reading: 1:05 Black, 1:31 White

[11:43] Tschej[4k]: What does that mean? They do a break?

[11:43] iguana[1d]: We will resume in around 1h (13:45pm UK time)

Move 0 + 49

[11:44] Animiral[3d]: timhunt, that looks like a nice solid book selection

Move 0 + 54

[11:45] iguana[1d]: Yes, B's next move has been written down and sealed in an envelope, hence "sealed move". Electronic devices have been removed from players until the end of the game.

Move 0 + 49

[11:45] Animiral[3d]: too bad mattkirk has left -__

Move 0 + 65

[11:45] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 1

Move 0 + 43

[11:49] mattkirk78[?]: Thanks for the advice timhunt and Animiral. :)

Move 0 + 65

[11:50] Tschej[4k]: This variation looks 'too' good for black. Is that really what black could have archived?

Move 0 + 50

[11:51] pipi123456[1k]: thats what i show for FIGHT:)

[11:51] pipi123456[1k]: much better than just give up

Move 0 + 54

[11:59] Trevoke[7k]: I'm not going to say that I regret their getting lunch but I just woke up and this is an exciting board position

[12:02] Animiral[3d]: blood already on the scene ^^

[12:03] Trevoke[7k]: Haha, indeed :D This must be where Michael Jackson got the inspiration for "Blood on the Dance Floor"

[12:05] TrueDamage[7d]: Is there has live on twitch or Youtube?

[12:14] Trevoke[7k]: I don't think so, @TrueDamage, but I'm only saying this because I didn't find anything

[12:15] Peikai Xue[5d]: I think it's on ogs and kgs only.

[12:16] GoDave89[4d]: so much to kibitz today ^^

[12:17] Trevoke[7k]: And it's good kibitz, too, with the exception of my bad joke :)

[12:20] GoDave89[4d]: :D

[12:24] GoDave89[4d]: oooh, it is lunch break lol

[12:24] GoDave89[4d]: makes sense ^^

[12:28] TrueDamage[7d]: cheer for Woo

[12:28] GoDave89[4d]: wooo whoooooo (?) :P

[12:29] TrueDamage[7d]: black

[12:41] Trevoke[7k]: lunch break almost over, woot

[12:42] iguana[1d]: Yes, we are resuming in 3 minutes 😊

[12:51] Trevoke[7k]: Three Jupiter minutes I guess *grin*

Move 0 + 55

[12:51] iguana[1d]: Sealed move G5

[12:51] iguana[1d]: We have resumed :D

[12:51] Trevoke[7k]: Thank you :D

[12:52] Trevoke[7k]: pre-lunch time-read copied from above 1:05 Black, 1:31 White

[12:54] iguana[1d]: Confirmed, thanks 🙂

[12:56] pickupsomemilk[5d]: E6?

Move 0 + 66

[13:04] Peikai Xue[5d]: Variation: Connect simply

Move 0 + 59

[13:05] pipi123456[1k]: maybe play cornor first

Move 0 + 71

[13:11] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 2

Move 0 + 68

[13:12] pipi123456[1k]: i think cantre is more big

Move 0 + 71

[13:14] GoGold[3d]: There's aji in the corner

Move 0 + 83

[13:28] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 3

Move 0 + 78

[13:37] iguana[1d]: Clock readings: Black 0:54, White 1:13

Move 0 + 81

[13:41] timhunt[2d]: This is heading towards a game in which the ability to count large areas accurately might be important.

Move 0 + 82

[13:45] timhunt[2d]: I still prefer W, but I like the way B is keeping his possibilities alive, and not letting W just consolidate a lead.

[13:46] Peikai Xue[5d]: Agree. White kind of lose control of the game. Maybe it's better to invade in 33 in bottom right corner instead of approaching.

[13:47] timhunt[2d]: Yes. Or Q6 high approach instead of R6?

Move 0 + 85

[13:50] pipi123456[1k]: i fell white might play M3 first brfore cornor

Move 0 + 83

[13:50] Peikai Xue[5d]: Make sense. If black plays with similar style, white will get more territory on right side.

Move 0 + 89

[13:50] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 4

Move 0 + 92

[14:00] pickupsomemilk[5d]: Variation: Live and reduce?

Move 0 + 83

[14:02] pipi123456[1k]: not wise to give up cornor for black

[14:03] frankiethefrank[6k]: Is there a video link to this?

[14:04] iguana[1d]: Sadly not

[14:04] Takumi Go 1[5d]: I think 83 is out of white expectation

Move 0 + 82

[14:05] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Really no idea for what to play as white

Move 0 + 83

[14:07] pickupsomemilk[5d]: yeah I didn't really understand S4, and this follow-up can't be good

Move 0 + 90

[14:08] iguana[1d]: Clock readings: Black 0:47 White 0:57

[14:08] AgingGuru[6k]: Serious reading needed ... At times like this my brain starts shutting down!

Move 0 + 96

[14:12] pipi123456[1k]: white had lost all his basement, but black still keep half

Move 0 + 97

[14:19] Takumi Go 1[5d]: In this fight, black maintained and even solidified the territory on the bottom side, while completely destroyed white's fight hand side, white only managed to live a small corner

[14:20] timhunt[2d]: So, my counting is: For W komi 7.5m top left 42.5, bottom right 5x,

[14:20] Takumi Go 1[5d]: It's totally a game for black now, white wanted to find strong moves against black group on the right

Move 0 + 99

[14:20] timhunt[2d]: ... plus chnaces to pick up a bit more, particularly hassling the B group on the R

[14:21] timhunt[2d]: B bottom middle could be as much as 60. Top right 10-15, bottom left 5-10.

[14:21] timhunt[2d]: So yes, looking better for B now, but still with fighing possibilities.

[14:22] timhunt[2d]: Other potential for W is that the B stones around H15 could get cut off and attacked.

Move 0 + 119

[14:22] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: One reason why black is struggling, the ladder is not working for black

Move 0 + 99

[14:22] Takumi Go 1[5d]: *Why white

[14:24] Takumi Go 1[5d]: At this point, there is no good place for white to come back, but with the very long time control, it would still be a very intense game

[14:25] Takumi Go 1[5d]: The problem of very long time control is that any side could lose his focus and blunder suddenly

[14:26] timhunt[2d]: B has 2 weak groups: R10 and H15 ones. Can W find a way to use that somehow? Not easy.

[14:26] Takumi Go 1[5d]: But if we just consider the game itself, I think it is very optimistic for black

[14:26] pickupsomemilk[5d]: wouldn't count h15 as weak anymore

[14:27] Takumi Go 1[5d]: To timhunt, I don't think the middle group of black is a concern now

Move 0 + 107

[14:28] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: I can't see how white could capture any stones, even if white only trying to capture three of them

Move 0 + 99

[14:28] timhunt[2d]: I am not saying it is easy to launch a direct attack right now. But, if W can cause fighting in the middle, then it might get weaker - that is why I say it is not hard to find a plan, but there are chances

Move 0 + 101

[14:29] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: As white extending at O9 is a gote (ladder not good for white), white may want to tenuki and attack the right group, but O9 is too great

Move 0 + 99

[14:30] rescueprincess[?]: is anyone commenting the game?

Move 0 + 101

[14:30] Takumi Go 1[5d]: That's why white is struggling

[14:31] Takumi Go 1[5d]: to rescueprincess: officially no commentator for this game

Move 0 + 99

[14:31] pickupsomemilk[5d]: I don't think black would ignore W O9, black can probably just push and go for center

Move 0 + 103

[14:31] pickupsomemilk[5d]: Variation: 10

Move 0 + 101

[14:31] rescueprincess[?]: thanks takumi

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[14:33] Takumi Go 1[5d]: to pickupsomemilk: Yes, that's a good point, but I won't like to get a gote, I may play on the right hand side after a feel press

Move 0 + 105

[14:33] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: like this

Move 0 + 100

[14:33] pickupsomemilk[5d]: yeah in realy game I would probably play your way. here I have benefit of score estimator :P

Move 0 + 110

[14:34] timhunt[2d]: Variation: Another thing for W to aim at, F8 group could get in trouble

[14:35] timhunt[2d]: Not syaing that is a real variation.

Move 0 + 101

[14:35] Peikai Xue[5d]: White is struggling under black's moyo

Move 0 + 102

[14:35] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: A or B, a very struggling question for me

Move 0 + 101

[14:36] pickupsomemilk[5d]: black is lucky, both choices are good :P

[14:37] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Well, but it would be confusing for the players, and we may get pessimistic as we can't get everything LOL

[14:38] iguana[1d]: Clock readings: Black 0:47 White 0:36

[14:38] iguana[1d]: First time White is down time, and still thinking

Move 0 + 111

[14:40] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: If black played this line, it means black counted the points and is optimistic to the game

Move 0 + 104

[14:41] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: If black played the bend, it means black wanted for a fight to determine the result

Move 0 + 103

[14:41] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Okay, black is optimistic, black wanted to keep his advantage

Move 0 + 107

[14:42] pickupsomemilk[5d]: Variation: I'd be happy with bend and no fight

Move 0 + 104

[14:42] timhunt[2d]: Now, can W find any way to break up what B has?

Move 0 + 108

[14:44] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Currently, Woo is leading, but I want to share a fact, Woo did lose two games with a winning position in the yose/end game stage in the european championship against Andri Kravets and Thomas Debarre

[14:45] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Could Woo learn his lesson and hold his advantage this time?

[14:47] Takumi Go 1[5d]: By the way, I like white 108, giving pressure to both sides of black

Move 0 + 111

[14:47] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: But luckily for black, the corner is not a big concern

Move 0 + 108

[14:47] timhunt[2d]: Yes, 108 surprised me at first, so quite, but a good double-threat whne you see it.

Move 0 + 114

[14:49] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 11

[14:50] pipi123456[1k]: it seems there is some problem for connnection

Move 0 + 111

[14:51] Takumi Go 1[5d]: To pipi123456: the peep is not a sente

Move 0 + 119

[14:51] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: 12

Move 0 + 110

[14:51] mattkirk78[25k]: Can you stronger players explain to me why black is winning here?

[14:52] mattkirk78[25k]: I'm quite new to Go....

Move 0 + 108

[14:53] AgingGuru[6k]: The assessment is that with best play B currently has more territory than W - is a very simplistic answer.

[14:53] AgingGuru[6k]: The trick is in assessing what 'best play' means from this position

[14:53] mattkirk78[25k]: Ok, thanks.

[14:54] Takumi Go 1[5d]: The purpose of this game to play more stones on the board or getting more territory on the board

[14:54] AgingGuru[6k]: B has solid territory at the bottom, W has a large corner in the top left and top side, the question is what becomes of the rest of the bopard

[14:54] AgingGuru[6k]: *board

[14:55] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Black bottom is a very big territory, so we think black is leading

[14:55] pickupsomemilk[5d]: mattkirk, if you click Estimate Score in the sidebar, you'll see what the estimated territories are

[14:55] mattkirk78[25k]: Understood.

[14:56] mattkirk78[25k]: Yes, I have seen that. Thanks.

Move 0 + 109

[14:56] pickupsomemilk[5d]: but that's with perfect play. black could still mess up :)

Move 0 + 108

[14:56] Takumi Go 1[5d]: But clearly 108 did give some challenges for black, Woo seems think for a bit already

[14:56] AgingGuru[6k]: and of course the players don;t have the advantage of an estimation tool :-)

[14:58] mattkirk78[25k]: :)

[15:00] Peikai Xue[5d]: It's not easy to see a clear way to survive both groups.

Move 0 + 109

[15:01] pickupsomemilk[5d]: corner shouldn't be a problem

[15:02] Peikai Xue[5d]: Maybe white plays some super powerful move.That's what he good at.

[15:03] pickupsomemilk[5d]: haha true, but I don't see it

Move 0 + 110

[15:03] AgingGuru[6k]: W just needs to let B make one mistake, especially with time reducing and possibly fatigue setting in

[15:04] Peikai Xue[5d]: I don't see too😆Let's see how he performs

[15:04] pickupsomemilk[5d]: white didn't see either

Move 0 + 115

[15:04] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 13

Move 0 + 118

[15:04] timhunt[2d]: Variation: Anything like this?

Move 0 + 110

[15:05] pickupsomemilk[5d]: sansan would be answered by s15

Move 0 + 117

[15:07] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: 3-3 should be too much

Move 0 + 111

[15:11] pipi123456[1k]: i think white should first play centre

Move 0 + 120

[15:12] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 14

Move 0 + 127

[15:14] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: To pipi, black could counter attack

[15:15] pipi123456[1k]: so it looks no good way:)

Move 0 + 120

[15:16] iguana[1d]: Clock readings: Black 0:25 White 0:34

[15:17] pickupsomemilk[5d]: definitely still losable, don't think white should do anything special

Move 0 + 121

[15:22] GoGold[3d]: Lots of large ending moves for both sides

[15:23] AgingGuru[6k]: and W has sente ...

[15:24] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Yeah, it would be very intense.

[15:25] AgingGuru[6k]: I favour W now - I think the centre area is going to be too big,

[15:25] rescueprincess[?]: which line is the real game? the green one?

[15:26] AgingGuru[6k]: refresh the page - it will put you on it I think

[15:26] rescueprincess[?]: thanks, it was green but now all the other lines disappeared

Move 0 + 122

[15:27] iguana[1d]: Alternatively, hit the "Sync" button that appears above the box with lines

[15:27] pickupsomemilk[5d]: b9 is big

[15:28] iguana[1d]: Alternative lines are shown by hovering over variations in comments.

[15:28] GoGold[3d]: B2 is also big

[15:29] GoGold[3d]: For white

[15:29] rescueprincess[?]: got it, thanks!

[15:29] Peikai Xue[5d]: Should white play c8 first?

[15:30] pickupsomemilk[5d]: yes

Move 0 + 125

[15:31] pickupsomemilk[5d]: hm last few black moves have been a bit slack

[15:33] pipi123456[1k]: C8 is the right of white

[15:33] pipi123456[1k]: dont know if he can find a way eat E9:)

[15:34] GoGold[3d]: Should black play C9 instead of N18

[15:34] GoGold[3d]: *B9

[15:35] pickupsomemilk[5d]: yes

Move 0 + 126

[15:36] GoGold[3d]: If black plays B9, the consequences of white jumping in O18 is not that serious

Move 0 + 136

[15:37] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 15

[15:39] GoGold[3d]: For black B9 is so valuable not only it's a big ending move it also threatens the life and death of white group in the left bottom corner

Move 0 + 126

[15:39] rescueprincess[?]: this feels like a bullying move

[15:41] timhunt[2d]: W needs to find a way to make more territory - threatening B's weaknesses in a productive way is the way to do it.

Move 0 + 128

[15:42] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: I think white is trying to get a better sequence to expend the centre

Move 0 + 127

[15:42] Takumi Go 1[5d]: But c8 is extremely big, would white miss it ?

Move 0 + 126

[15:43] Animiral[3d]: so far this is just a probe

[15:43] GoGold[3d]: Agree

Move 0 + 128

[15:43] pickupsomemilk[5d]: white already missed it. isn't b9 sente for black?

Move 0 + 128

[15:43] pipi123456[1k]: C8 is bigger unless white can eat E9

[15:44] pipi123456[1k]: either way C8 or C2 is same value i think

Move 0 + 126

[15:44] Takumi Go 1[5d]: To pickupsomemilk, Need some courage to tenuki now

[15:44] Takumi Go 1[5d]: I think

Move 0 + 129

[15:45] Takumi Go 1[5d]: But now, black should get it

[15:45] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Faster than my typing

[15:46] GoGold[3d]: I think the value of C8 is definitely bigger than the centre for white

[15:46] Takumi Go 1[5d]: It is nearly a double sente

Move 0 + 130

[15:46] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Double sente is always the greatest move

[15:47] AgingGuru[6k]: clock times?

Move 0 + 131

[15:48] GoGold[3d]: B9, C2 and H2 are both sente for white. This combination is too great for black

[15:48] iguana[1d]: Clock readings: Black 0:08 White 0:26

[15:48] AgingGuru[6k]: thanks

[15:48] GoGold[3d]: *I mean for black

Move 0 + 128

[15:48] pipi123456[1k]: white K13 is very bad move .AI judge it lost about 3 points

Move 0 + 131

[15:49] AgingGuru[6k]: In my lexicon 'very bad' is rather more than 3 points :-)

[15:49] AgingGuru[6k]: I can easily lose 30 :-)

Move 0 + 128

[15:50] pipi123456[1k]: at this stage 3 points almost = endgame

Move 0 + 133

[15:51] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Woo's idea

Move 0 + 132

[15:51] pickupsomemilk[5d]: this exchange is painful. white loses b2

Move 0 + 134

[15:52] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Yang's counter measure

Move 0 + 134

[15:53] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Yang's counter measure *

Move 0 + 130

[15:54] Takumi Go 1[5d]: To pickupsomemilk: Yang's counter measure is trying to "save his face" of playing the jump at G2

[15:54] Takumi Go 1[5d]: So he could not play the variation that is objectively better

Move 0 + 138

[15:55] pickupsomemilk[5d]: Variation: this would have been fine

Move 0 + 136

[15:55] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Yeah, but not yang overlooked the cut

[15:56] Takumi Go 1[5d]: It's not what he expected and that's when people make mistakes

Move 0 + 134

[15:58] Peikai Xue[5d]: Black won't make mistake in this case

Move 0 + 138

[15:58] pipi123456[1k]: white need play F10 before alive

Move 0 + 139

[16:01] pickupsomemilk[5d]: still close

[16:03] AgingGuru[6k]: Seems to me as though B now has a better share of good yose moves than earlier

Move 0 + 141

[16:03] pipi123456[1k]: i think it is good time to play F10 let black choose

Move 0 + 149

[16:09] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: I think black could just connect? White need to live anyway

Move 0 + 140

[16:10] pipi123456[1k]: ofcause,but black might play wrong:)

Move 0 + 145

[16:19] iguana[1d]: Clock readings at move 141: Black 0:02.02 White 0:11.46 Qatux [1k?]: *0:11.46

[16:20] iguana[1d]: Black 0:02.02 White 0:11.46

Move 0 + 151

[16:22] Takumi Go 1[5d]: 45 seconds is a lot, both players could calculate 101 3d questions in 45 seconds with a very good accuracy, it's more about the psychological effect rather than the calculation needs of time

Move 0 + 159

[16:33] iguana[1d]: The players were joking before the game that they would make the game last 8 hours (including lunch). Now that we are nearing 6.5 hours I guess they were not joking 😄

Move 0 + 160

[16:34] AgingGuru[6k]: M17 now?

[16:34] Takumi Go 1[5d]: And always a close game, a fabulous match

Move 0 + 164

[16:37] Peikai Xue[5d]: AI thinks black is ahead of 1.5 points, very close game.

Move 0 + 169

[16:40] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Ai think white is winning now

[16:41] Takumi Go 1[5d]: No clues what went wrong for black lol

Move 0 + 176

[16:41] pickupsomemilk[5d]: hm I still see B+1.5

Move 0 + 178

[16:47] Qatux[2k]: Time report Black 5.22 White 6.40

Move 0 + 72

[16:50] pipi123456[1k]: F10 is very important, AI agree play long time ago

[16:51] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 16

Move 0 + 191

[16:51] Shindobald[1d]: Now both black and white have some territories

Move 0 + 197

[16:58] pickupsomemilk[5d]: half point game now

Move 0 + 200

[16:59] timhunt[2d]: Guessing this si a time-suji

[17:00] Hrewsahgs[4d]: Also an endgame tesuji by virtue of N19 throw-in

[17:00] Qatux[2k]: Time check Black 8.50 White 6.40

[17:00] timhunt[2d]: Oh yes! nice :-)

Move 0 + 74

[17:01] pipi123456[1k]: white win 6.7 if balck connection

[17:01] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 17

Move 0 + 167

[17:05] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Turn out black missing this move caused the final defeat

[17:06] Takumi Go 1[5d]: What a game, that's crazy

[17:06] pickupsomemilk[5d]: oh wow

Move 0 + 208

[17:06] Peikai Xue[5d]: Your variation doesn't work, black's top right corner group has some issue

[17:06] Hrewsahgs[4d]: That clamp's very reminiscent of the one in Ichiriki's 3rd Ing Cup game

Move 0 + 117

[17:09] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: Another mistake may be this one, although ai did not criticize the actual game move (point A), it did give white opportunity to surround a big tummy

[17:09] Takumi Go 1[5d]: To Peikai Xue, Not at that moment

[17:10] Takumi Go 1[5d]: but it seems to be the losing cause

[17:10] Peikai Xue[5d]: At other time black may think he's ahead and doesn't want to play risky move😂

Move 0 + 179

[17:11] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Variation: White bullying the black group in these few moves, showed why advancing into the centre is huge

Move 0 + 109

[17:13] pickupsomemilk[5d]: Variation: Answering here probably would have stopped white centre too

Move 0 + 221

[17:23] Trevoke[7k]: Has this game really been neck and neck the entire time?

[17:23] Trevoke[7k]: Wow

Move 0 + 226

[17:24] timhunt[2d]: Not the entire time, but it is now!

Move 0 + 230

[17:27] elaye[14k]: Variation: 18

Move 0 + 231

[17:28] Qatux[2k]: Time Report Black 4.47 While 6.00

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[17:29] Trevoke[7k]: Has the game always been within 5 points or were there bigger mistakes?

Move 0 + 237

[17:30] Trevoke[7k]: I tend to think that within 5 points is neck and neck, and you may have a different definition :)

Move 0 + 243

[17:31] wade[4d]: i think t19 gave w better chance to win if the ko will go to 1 threat

Move 0 + 108

[17:31] pickupsomemilk[5d]: think white was ahead ~7 after top left, and black was ahead ~8 after bottom right

Move 0 + 252

[17:31] Trevoke[7k]: whoa, ok

Move 0 + 126

[17:34] pipi123456[1k]: white is not ahead after he missing chance to strengthen centre before cornor

Move 0 + 289

[17:34] pickupsomemilk[5d]: did the ko make any difference?

[17:34] timhunt[2d]: With AGA rules it can. Don;t know if it does in this case.

[17:35] timhunt[2d]: No more ko threats for eaither player, so W can't play R13

Move 0 + 294

[17:37] iguana[1d]: Players are counting

[17:37] timhunt[2d]: Oh, game record here does not include pass stones in the prisoners.

[17:38] Trevoke[7k]: AGA rules include pass stones to make japanese counting equal to chinese counting in all cases, IIRC

[17:38] Trevoke[7k]: So if OGS uses Chinese rules "for AGA", it doesn't have to include pass stones

[17:39] iguana[1d]: W+0.5

[17:39] iguana[1d]: Congratulations to Yaoling Yang

[17:39] AgingGuru[6k]: Wow!

[17:39] Trevoke[7k]: Thank you for scribing!

[17:40] timhunt[2d]: Thank you very much for the relay.

[17:40] iguana[1d]: Thank you all for watching 🙂 See you same time tomorrow – look for the link in the announcements.

[17:40] timhunt[2d]: And to the stronger player for hte comments.

[17:40] davidking68[?]: Thanks

[17:41] Trevoke[7k]: I'm guessing Round 2 will be ... GMT morning?

[17:42] iguana[1d]: Game 2 begins 11:00 UK time (10:00 GMT)

Move 0 + 84

[17:43] pipi123456[1k]: Variation: 19

Move 0 + 294

[17:43] iguana[1d]: Link will be demo 1332430 and also posted in announcements.

[17:43] Takumi Go 1[5d]: Thank you all of the players and organisers, a fantastic matcg

Move 0 + 84

[17:44] pipi123456[1k]: white should play Q6 not R6. big different

Move 0 + 294

[17:50] Trevoke[7k]: Thank you @iguana :)

[17:53] iguana[1d]: You're welcome. Qatux also recording and keeping an eye on the clock in the background :)