Tournoi international de Paris, ronde 5 - International Paris Tournament, round 5

Move 22

Kim Seong-Jin (8d)[7d]

0 captures

Dai Junfu (8d)[7d]

0 captures

+ 7.5

Unranked

Rules: AGA

Review by: tip1[?]

Move 0 + 36

April 17, 2017

[7:29] tip1[?]: Hello and welcome to this very exciting round of Paris International go tournament

[7:29] tip1[?]: both players of equal rank : what will happen is this promising game ?

Move 0 + 53

[7:38] vaurien[?]: Yop, is iut a blitz game ??

[7:39] tip1[?]: well, both players have 1hr and 30 minutes

[7:39] tip1[?]: 1hr15 minutes left for black, 1hr 16 minutes left for white

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[7:44] HisokaH[?]: Coucou

[7:44] vaurien[?]: Yo Chris

[7:44] HisokaH[?]: :)

Move 0 + 56

[7:45] Schachus[?]: why did black exchange 55 for 56?

[7:46] Schachus[?]: doesnt this take away his possibility to play at 56 if circumstances allow?

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[7:47] HisokaH[?]: i don't think it's interesting for black to play at the bottom, he's building something on the right and he got yose at the bottom

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[7:49] Schachus[?]: r6 looks reall deep

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[7:50] Schachus[?]: I thought black might answer r8, because bottom right is already so strong, but what do I know...

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[7:53] tip1[?]: Dai sighed when he saw this move

[7:53] Racine[?]: N5 seems very defensive

Move 0 + 74

[7:54] Schachus[?]: thats what I thought too, but probably it isnt, else why would he sigh?

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[7:55] tip1[?]: another white's sigh when he saw the move

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[7:55] tip1[?]: Dai smashed the stone at the board

[7:56] Racine[?]: is it possible for black to play at R9 here?

[7:57] Racine[?]: or is the cut too severe...

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[7:58] tip1[?]: is black going for the whole thing, or is this move considering the overall balance with white strength in the north ?

Move 0 + 78

[7:58] Racine[?]: I don't think black expect to kill that group

[7:59] Racine[?]: there is too much space...

[8:01] tip1[?]: let's check both player's time

[8:01] tip1[?]: black has 1hr 2 min left, white 1hr 7 min

[8:01] Racine[?]: they are playing quite fast

[8:02] Schachus[?]: maybe the black cap was aiming to also strengthen the group in case of the cut at o5?

Move 0 + 79

[8:02] HisokaH[?]: i guess black want to keep an attack on white's group, if r9 as suggested before, maybe it's too small and the attack is lost because black will have weak group too

[8:03] Schachus[?]: and he is now going to try r9?!

[8:03] Schachus[?]: oh, cool he already did that

Move 0 + 81

[8:04] HisokaH[?]: (what i said is for l8 instead of r9)

[8:04] Racine[?]: at least with this attacks black totally counters any influence that white had in the center

[8:04] Schachus[?]: the problem for black is, if he builds streghth from the center while attacking, then h13 is in the perfect place to destroy that

[8:05] Schachus[?]: so I'm not sure what black wants to gain, killing doesnt seem reasonable

Move 0 + 83

[8:06] Racine[?]: at the time of N8, white was probably hoping to give up the two stones on the right to build something in the center

[8:06] HisokaH[?]: he want to hunt, not to kill

[8:06] Racine[?]: black played against that

Move 0 + 84

[8:06] tip1[?]: iis white aiming at R10 and cross ct ?

Move 0 + 88

[8:08] Schachus[?]: yes he wants to hunt, but what is his gain from hunting

[8:09] Racine[?]: he doesn't need to gain much, he already has solid territory in 3 corners

[8:10] tip1[?]: maybe this way white is trying to get N12 and R10 as miai to get a living shape...

[8:10] Schachus[?]: but with top left white it doesnt seem clear to me who has more points

[8:11] Schachus[?]: ok, maybe black just wants to get sente take the left side and that would be enough

[8:13] tip1[?]: black 54 minutes left, white 1hr and 3 min

Move 0 + 91

[8:15] Racine[?]: K5 is an interesting move

[8:15] Racine[?]: L5 i mean

[8:15] Racine[?]: was it so important?

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[8:15] tip1[?]: well you guessed the next move

[8:15] tip1[?]: ^^

[8:15] Racine[?]: :-)

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[8:18] Schachus[?]: black want to fix o5 cut in the best way? Not sure how it's supposed to work

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[8:19] Schachus[?]: I dont even understand, why white cant play n4

[8:19] Schachus[?]: ah, he did

[8:19] Racine[?]: then you're 8d :-)

[8:19] tip1[?]: white hit the clock pretty strongly

[8:19] tip1[?]: there is no suspense if you can guess all the moves ^^

[8:20] Racine[?]: there might be some aji with H3 and K3?

[8:20] tip1[?]: (just joking, keep guessing please)

[8:22] Racine[?]: are both players undefeated so far?

[8:22] Schachus[?]: yes

Move 0 + 95

[8:22] tip1[?]: yes

[8:23] Schachus[?]: ok, this is just way above my head

[8:23] Schachus[?]: is he making ko threats?

[8:23] Schachus[?]: but how does he want to start the ko?

Move 0 + 96

[8:24] tip1[?]: maybe white is aiming to cut the center

[8:24] Racine[?]: now the cut at M7 would be painful....

[8:25] Schachus[?]: I thought black is going to give up the two stones and cut around o7 or o8

[8:26] Racine[?]: if white can capture L8 and K10 it would be worth much more

Move 0 + 99

[8:26] Schachus[?]: oops didnt expect that

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[8:27] tip1[?]: and black sighed

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[8:29] tip1[?]: black hit is head looking disappointed

[8:30] Racine[?]: is there a way for white to save the R7 stones? or maybe it is not worth it?

[8:30] tip1[?]: my gess is

[8:31] tip1[?]: white Q9 b Q8 white R8

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[8:32] Racine[?]: good guess so far :p

[8:32] tip1[?]: we will see

[8:32] Schachus[?]: isnt some move on the left also big

[8:32] Schachus[?]: like c10 or something

[8:32] tip1[?]: black left the room, and white is looking at other player's game

[8:33] tip1[?]: let me update you about the other players in the room

[8:33] tip1[?]: third table is a match between Gao Jiaxin 6d and Viktor Lin 6d

Move 0 + 106

[8:34] tip1[?]: ok both players came back and played their moves pretty fast, so let's update you later

[8:34] Racine[?]: so Q10 was the move

Move 0 + 107

[8:35] Racine[?]: with Q7 still a possibility now

Move 0 + 110

[8:38] Racine[?]: J6 feels very big

Move 0 + 111

[8:38] tip1[?]: D12 feels like knocking at white's door

[8:39] Yvlain[?]: Bonjour

[8:39] tip1[?]: bonjour

Move 0 + 112

[8:40] Racine[?]: I guess white will try to capture that stone

[8:40] tip1[?]: and with D10 white welcomes his guest ?

Move 0 + 113

[8:42] tip1[?]: black has 40 minutes left ; black 48

Move 0 + 118

[8:46] tip1[?]: A16 being sente, black seems alive without adding an extra stone

[8:46] tip1[?]: will he slide to C9 or jump once more ?

[8:47] Racine[?]: was R19 really necessary? this exchange seems good for black...

[8:47] Racine[?]: E19*

Move 0 + 119

[8:49] tip1[?]: with this move black seems to control left area now

[8:50] tip1[?]: will white D10 finally be isolated ?

[8:50] Schachus[?]: but blacks corner seems to be in trouble, no

[8:51] tip1[?]: actually if white plays D19, black can play A16, white C14 and then connect C18

[8:51] Schachus[?]: ah, no a16 is sente

Move 0 + 120

[8:51] Schachus[?]: yes

[8:51] Racine[?]: it is just barely alive; but that's enough

[8:51] Yvlain[?]: Exactly

[8:51] Schachus[?]: still ko though

[8:51] Schachus[?]: d19 a16 c14 c18 a18

[8:52] tip1[?]: yes

[8:52] tip1[?]: thank you

Move 0 + 119

[8:52] lichigo[?]: Bonjour, combien de temps reste il?

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[8:52] Racine[?]: A18 instead of C18 in that variation

[8:52] tip1[?]: 35 minutes pour noir, 43 pour blanc

[8:52] Schachus[?]: ah yes

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[8:52] Chilltime[?]: top left is alive no ko

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[8:52] Schachus[?]: and if white starts at a18?

[8:53] Chilltime[?]: d19

[8:53] Chilltime[?]: hm

[8:53] Chilltime[?]: thats ko though

[8:53] Schachus[?]: b19 ko, right?

[8:53] Chilltime[?]: just a sek

[8:53] pagia[?]: What is J10 means?B can cut at F10 or e9

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[8:53] Chilltime[?]: b19 a19

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[8:54] Schachus[?]: ah, cool

Move 0 + 125

[8:54] Chilltime[?]: hm

[8:54] Chilltime[?]: nah

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[8:54] Schachus[?]: no, then d19

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[8:54] Chilltime[?]: yeah

[8:54] Chilltime[?]: and still ko

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[8:54] Chilltime[?]: so top left ko :P

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[8:56] Schachus[?]: would be surprising if it was alive like that, because white e19 would have been a super fail move if black could live in sente

Move 0 + 122

[8:57] Chilltime[?]: true

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[9:00] Racine[?]: O8 now?

[9:00] pagia[?]: o7 not o8

[9:01] Gedemus[?]: does anybody know the game rate between Kim and Dai ?

[9:01] Schachus[?]: I think their score is probably 0:0

[9:01] tip1[?]: i think it is their first time playing together

[9:01] pagia[?]: but I think W is no time to connect at O7 now

[9:02] Gedemus[?]: I remember a win by Kim in Paris

[9:02] tip1[?]: it was another Kim ^^

[9:02] Schachus[?]: when?

[9:02] lichigo[?]: I just know doesnt have a good win rate with korean players.

[9:02] tip1[?]: Kim Youngsam

[9:02] Schachus[?]: yes, it might have been kim youngsam

[9:02] tip1[?]: two years ago

Move 0 + 124

[9:02] lichigo[?]: Kim youngsame won twice against him

Move 0 + 123

[9:03] Gedemus[?]: oops, yes, not the sme KIm, sorry

[9:03] tip1[?]: Dai also won once against him

[9:03] lichigo[?]: Yes in the paris meijin

Move 0 + 125

[9:04] Gedemus[?]: hard to say for me who is leading now

[9:05] tip1[?]: time is even again

Move 0 + 126

[9:05] tip1[?]: black 32 minutes left, white 33 minutes left

[9:05] pagia[?]: I think J10 is an problem move, I think the battle at center is easier for B now

[9:06] lichigo[?]: I think black is a bit better

[9:07] tip1[?]: if you are white, playing away with K12 could reveal strong player's ability to change plan when they notice their move isn't satisfying ^^

[9:07] tip1[?]: if you are *right

[9:09] Schachus[?]: if the fight is settled, what is bigger, top left ko, or o7?

[9:09] pagia[?]: P7 group for W have no time to save,N10 will be sharp for B,and connect D10 group and F3 group,I think W can't save such several problem at the same time

Move 0 + 127

[9:10] tip1[?]: black smashed the stone at the board

Move 0 + 129

[9:12] Gedemus[?]: i dont see how w can save p7 group

[9:12] Racine[?]: O8 would connect

Move 0 + 136

[9:15] tip1[?]: black 25 minutes left ; white 30 min

Move 0 + 138

[9:16] pagia[?]: O8 is gote to save P7 group ,because N12 group have weak point at n10(break eyes),fall into gote will make W in trouble

Move 0 + 140

[9:20] tip1[?]: black looks very focused

[9:20] Racine[?]: is L7 enough for black here?

[9:21] tip1[?]: he almost placed a stone around O8 and took it back

Move 0 + 141

[9:21] tip1[?]: white sighed pretty deeply

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[9:22] Racine[?]: this is becoming dangerous

Move 0 + 145

[9:22] Schachus[?]: for whom?

Move 0 + 146

[9:22] Racine[?]: I don't know :-)

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[9:24] pagia[?]: Yup,W give up to save P7 and make dragon alive first

[9:24] Schachus[?]: strange shape

[9:24] Racine[?]: a square is not the best eye shape..

[9:24] pagia[?]: this is pain for w

Move 0 + 150

[9:26] lichigo[?]: The game seems over for w....

[9:26] Schachus[?]: why?

[9:27] Racine[?]: as long as there is fighting there is a chance

[9:28] pagia[?]: G9 is good move, but situation is still good for B

[9:28] pagia[?]: h9 SORRY

[9:29] lichigo[?]: White seems dead inside

[9:29] Schachus[?]: b needs to connect the two stones and then w can live I guess

[9:30] pagia[?]: w can live by attack two stone of B,that what H9 means

Move 0 + 155

[9:33] Chilltime[?]: doesnt look good for white i think

[9:33] tip1[?]: 10 minutes left for black, 28 for white

[9:33] lichigo[?]: Even though he lives situation is better for black

[9:34] Racine[?]: is it time for O7 now?

[9:35] tip1[?]: the question is : what does G10 mean ?

[9:35] tip1[?]: is black being patient and inviting white to add a move to be able to take P7 stones ?

[9:35] Racine[?]: if white had played G10, there was some chance of attacking the black group...

[9:35] tip1[?]: or is there no way to kill white's group ?

[9:36] pagia[?]: no,if W save P7 now,B cut at G5 ,G8 group is in danger

[9:36] tip1[?]: and also : can white afford to lose P7, or should he play all-in in a big gamble ?

[9:38] Racine[?]: at least he has some time advantage to think about it

[9:39] pagia[?]: now can confirm that, J10 is really a bad move

[9:40] Schachus[?]: I think e19 was the problem

Move 0 + 156

[9:40] Schachus[?]: o7 isnt even so big, looks like 15 points

[9:41] Schachus[?]: a little less

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[9:43] pagia[?]: I think e19 is a bit slow,but after that,I think the game still can go on.

[9:43] Racine[?]: if white manages to capture all those black stone, he's in a good shape

[9:43] tip1[?]: now is black going for the kill ?

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[9:43] Racine[?]: of course that's a big "if" :-)

[9:44] tip1[?]: white facepalmed

[9:44] Chilltime[?]: lol

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[9:44] vaurien[?]: with G10 black can connect its stones ib the middle even if he loses the three stones in g10.. and he can kill the white group

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[9:44] Chilltime[?]: i think its time to resign

[9:44] Chilltime[?]: :P

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[9:48] tip1[?]: black has 5 minutes left, white 17:42

[9:48] tip1[?]: 17 minute 42 seconds, precisely :)

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[9:53] pagia[?]: even B ignore H12 ,he still can live by sent,LOL

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[9:54] tip1[?]: black 3 minutes, white 14 minutes left

[9:54] pagia[?]: oops , I think d13 should be C14...that is a sente

[9:56] Schachus[?]: but c14 loses a lot in the corner

[9:57] Schachus[?]: whats wrong eith d13

Move 0 + 172

[9:58] pagia[?]: D13 make B need escape at H12,and W can kill F16 group by sente

Move 0 + 175

[10:00] pagia[?]: because b C13 first, W c15, B D13,that B make an eye at c13

[10:00] tip1[?]: black 44 seconds left before byo-yomi

[10:00] tip1[?]: white 10 minutes

[10:00] pagia[?]: *C14 first

[10:00] Schachus[?]: what is the corner now? ko if black plays?

[10:00] Schachus[?]: and if white plays?

Move 0 + 181

[10:02] Racine[?]: here is your answer :p

Move 0 + 182

[10:02] Schachus[?]: also ko it seems

Move 0 + 183

[10:02] Schachus[?]: so why did white play there?

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[10:03] pagia[?]: seems B have many threat at lower

[10:03] tip1[?]: black kind of took back his move and entered byo yomi

Move 0 + 185

[10:03] explo[?]: black would have been alive with d19 Schachus

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[10:03] Schachus[?]: ah yes

[10:04] Schachus[?]: so it didnt change much that white got c14

Move 0 + 186

[10:05] Schachus[?]: a little better ko for white

Move 0 + 199

[10:05] tip1[?]: black and white seem to have reached to an agreement

Move 0 + 186

[10:05] pagia[?]: is black lose this ko and the game, that is the problem makes by D13

Move 0 + 202

[10:06] Schachus[?]: I dont think black loses the game

Move 0 + 208

[10:06] Schachus[?]: although he lost the ko

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[10:07] lichigo[?]: Black wins

Move 0 + 211

[10:07] pagia[?]: yes, threat for W isn't enough, so w fix the ko too early

[10:07] tip1[?]: white resigned

[10:07] tip1[?]: Variation: 1

[10:08] Racine[?]: thanks for the broadcast

[10:08] tip1[?]: thank you for following this exciting game !

[10:09] tip1[?]: we will be back in 1hr and 30 minutes for the final round

[10:11] tip1[?]: both players are reviewing the game

[10:11] tip1[?]: they agree that R12 is really too huge

[10:16] tip1[?]: thank you, see you around !