Polish Go Championship

Move 234

Koichiro Habu[5d]

4 captures

Stanisław Frejlak[1p]

8 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

Review by: LMP2021-2[?]

Move 0

November 13, 2021

[14:34] LMP2021-2[?]: Runda 5, zaczynamy!

[14:34] LMP2021-2[?]: Gracze usiedli, ukłonili się

Move 0 + 1

[14:35] LMP2021-2[?]: Siasio patrzy w sufit

Move 0 + 5

[14:35] LMP2021-2[?]: zagranie ala gambit królowej

Move 0 + 8

[14:35] MaciekLubinski[?]: Koichi! Koichi! :)

Move 0 + 14

[14:36] LMP2021-2[?]: interesujące

Move 0 + 15

[14:37] LMP2021-2[?]: Siasio zaczyna spokojnie

[14:38] LMP2021-2[?]: R8?

Move 0 + 21

[14:40] MaciekLubinski[?]: spokojnie? :)

[14:40] MaciekLubinski[?]: to normalna sekwencja czy Sisio sugeruje, ze Koichi pomylil kolejnosc?

Move 0 + 23

[14:40] LMP2021-2[?]: F4 wyjaśniało cięcia w rogu

Move 0 + 21

[14:40] MaciekLubinski[?]: przepraszam, Pan Stanislaw

Move 0 + 23

[14:40] LMP2021-2[?]: bez grożenia drabinkami

[14:42] haivico[1d]: czesc Macku (kłania sie stary znajomy z Krk)... mysle że Koichi nic nie pomylił, chciał to ponnuki za róg bo fajnie współgra z Q3 i P4

Move 0 + 21

[14:43] MaciekLubinski[?]: mhm

[14:43] MaciekLubinski[?]: no to do boju!

[14:43] MaciekLubinski[?]: oby, mi sie rog podoba :)

Move 0 + 23

[14:44] haivico[1d]: a mi jakby minimalnie bardziej czarne :)

Move 0 + 21

[14:44] MaciekLubinski[?]: mi duzo bardziej biale i w tym widze szanse dla Koichiego, bo zazwyczaj podobaja mi sie te,ktore gorzej stoja :)

Move 0 + 23

[14:44] haivico[1d]: hehe

Move 0 + 21

[14:46] MaciekLubinski[?]: widzialem na facebooku, ze gracie w Krakowie regularnie, jak skoncze prawko to wpadne kiedys

Move 0 + 23

[14:46] haivico[1d]: ja zadko w sumie bywam, ale teraz ludzie sie spotykają juz nawet 2 razy w tyg

Move 0 + 21

[14:47] MaciekLubinski[?]: Koichi regularnie gra?

Move 0 + 24

[14:47] LMP2021-2[?]: mówi, że gra

[14:47] LMP2021-3[?]: Regularnie gra w mistrzostwach polski

Move 0 + 28

[14:52] LMP2021-2[?]: Stanisław niechętnie postawił ten kamień

Move 0 + 39

[14:57] duivel[2d]: n8 made white stronger in the center

[14:58] duivel[2d]: M10

Move 0 + 45

[15:02] duivel[2d]: first game still playable after 50 moves

Move 0 + 48

[15:07] agilegoplay[20k]: what's happeing

Move 0 + 51

[15:11] LMP2021-2[?]: @agilegoplay: white is trying to reduce black territory on the bottom

Move 0 + 57

[15:16] duivel[2d]: because black was trying reducing white's potential on the left with c10

[15:17] LMP2021-2[?]: W: 60min, B: 77min

[15:17] duivel[2d]: but white couldnt protect left site with one move, so was better to protect bottom intead of c10

Move 0 + 69

[15:28] duivel[2d]: Variation: 1

Move 0 + 67

[15:34] LMP2021-2[?]: C12?

[15:35] duivel[2d]: C7

Move 0 + 71

[15:47] 博安德[4k]: Variation: 2

Move 0 + 73

[15:52] duivel[2d]: e12 was very expected for black

[15:55] LMP2021-2[?]: W: 36min, B: 62min

[15:55] LMP2021-2[?]: Stanislaw said" ayayay"

[15:56] LMP2021-2[?]: (but in polish)

Move 0 + 74

[15:58] duivel[2d]: how is ayayay in polish?

[15:58] Radziol[2d]: ajajaj

[15:58] LMP2021-3[?]: ajajaj, but i do not think wny Pole ever said that

[15:58] tasuki[?]: how does lmp-2 know it was said in polish?

[15:58] LMP2021-3[?]: hmm, ok Ive just understood what it could mean :d

[15:59] LMP2021-2[?]: I'm listening

[15:59] LMP2021-2[?]: I have a knack for languages

Move 0 + 75

[15:59] LMP2021-3[?]: clever boy

[16:00] LMP2021-2[?]: yes, that's what my grandma said

[16:01] Gulfman[14k]: K and J 8 seem to be key neither are safe...right?

Move 0 + 76

[16:02] LMP2021-2[?]: the main question they keep asking each other is "do black need to connect at F5?"

[16:02] LMP2021-2[?]: that would be connection for 0 pts and they want to be efficient

Move 0 + 77

[16:03] Gulfman[14k]: both groups can escape...

Move 0 + 78

[16:04] duivel[2d]: 0pts or 30 pts

[16:05] LMP2021-2[?]: true, both can escape - for now. But when white encloses then black needs to connect and white has sente and some power to create points on top

Move 0 + 79

[16:05] Gulfman[14k]: the more I look at it..the more since it make to connect there as the stones to the north have issues

Move 0 + 85

[16:05] duivel[2d]: Variation: 3

Move 0 + 79

[16:05] Gulfman[14k]: sense

Move 0 + 83

[16:07] duivel[2d]: just F14

Move 0 + 88

[16:08] duivel[2d]: Variation: 4

Move 0 + 87

[16:14] LMP2021-2[?]: b12?

Move 0 + 96

[16:19] Gulfman[14k]: alot of points up north black should go for M or N 17?

[16:20] LMP2021-2[?]: no points yet. White is threatening middle group now. F5 cut is still dangerous

Move 0 + 97

[16:21] LMP2021-2[?]: W: 20min, B: 52min

[16:22] LMP2021-2[?]: byo-yomi is 1x60s

Move 0 + 99

[16:23] Gulfman[14k]: yes... f5 would keep those groups much safer....

[16:23] Gulfman[14k]: the peep at J8 still seems like the move

[16:23] LMP2021-2[?]: as mentioned before, f5 is making it safe but it does not build anything. Black was trying to prevent playing move for 0 pt

[16:25] Gulfman[14k]: ok...K17 works

[16:25] Radziol[2d]: it's still hard to capture blac after f5

[16:26] Gulfman[14k]: true...we he could lose those stones too

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: Black is ahead on point, white needs to play more active

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: and...

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: he cuts!

Move 0 + 101

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi has prepared keima

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: he didn't even think

[16:27] Gulfman[14k]: there it is....

[16:27] LMP2021-2[?]: white is is in danger as well here

[16:28] LMP2021-2[?]: maybe more than black actualy

[16:29] Gulfman[14k]: if black could isolate the eye at H6??

[16:30] LMP2021-2[?]: F13 group is in danger more than J10

[16:30] LMP2021-2[?]: by attacking white group black can build up the upper side

Move 0 + 105

[16:32] Gulfman[14k]: ok ...so as white runs black is moving to keep white from creating eyes....right?

Move 0 + 106

[16:32] Gulfman[14k]: k13 and l14

Move 0 + 107

[16:33] Gulfman[14k]: and keep white from invading

[16:34] LMP2021-2[?]: I'd say black won't try to kill, black will just make threats and build points on top. As long as black has more points it's white problem

[16:34] Gulfman[14k]: understood

Move 0 + 109

[16:38] Gulfman[14k]: so white should go for N17 or O

[16:39] LMP2021-2[?]: what about k14 and then H18?

[16:39] Gulfman[14k]: cut at k12

[16:39] LMP2021-2[?]: does it work? can white kill?

[16:40] Gulfman[14k]: checking...lol

Move 0 + 110

[16:40] LMP2021-2[?]: Stanislaw looks like he will ask Koichi on the board

[16:40] Sallmard[2k]: I don't think anything is dead

Move 0 + 111

[16:42] duivel[2d]: still even game

[16:42] LMP2021-2[?]: K14, M13, H18, G18, J19, K19, H17?

[16:43] LMP2021-2[?]: but with E16 and cut black seems to have another eye at the top

[16:43] Gulfman[14k]: they seem to all have a way to connect...n17 for whit or black seems like pts to me

[16:44] duivel[2d]: J19 H17

[16:44] Gulfman[14k]: ok

Move 0 + 113

[16:45] duivel[2d]: looks like white is in troubles

[16:45] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi is relentless, he will harass center group first.

Move 0 + 117

[16:47] duivel[2d]: Variation: 5

Move 0 + 113

[16:47] LMP2021-2[?]: let's not forget that N12 is sente for cut at O9

[16:48] LMP2021-2[?]: Stanislaw will enter byo-yomi in 30sek

Move 0 + 114

[16:48] LMP2021-2[?]: he still looks confident but worried

[16:50] LMP2021-2[?]: I'd be tempted to play n12 for both sides

Move 0 + 115

[16:51] LMP2021-2[?]: W: byo-yomi, B: 43min

Move 0 + 117

[16:52] LMP2021-2[?]: time-suji

Move 0 + 118

[16:52] LMP2021-2[?]: Stasio says you can't kill me!

Move 0 + 121

[16:55] LMP2021-2[?]: it looks like an all-in game now. Black probably can't win after Q18 on points

Move 0 + 122

[16:56] LMP2021-2[?]: k9 now? empty triangle for and empty triangle?

[16:56] LMP2021-2[?]: *an

[16:56] LMP2021-3[?]: It looks like something white has to die

[16:56] LMP2021-2[?]: black's s6 looks dangerous

[16:58] LMP2021-2[?]: both players are very nervous

Move 0 + 117

[16:59] Gulfman[14k]: n16?

Move 0 + 122

[16:59] LMP2021-2[?]: why?

Move 0 + 117

[17:00] Gulfman[14k]: try and support p17 and pts

Move 0 + 122

[17:01] LMP2021-2[?]: if you want support p17 maybe R17 is better

Move 0 + 117

[17:01] Gulfman[14k]: but tour right the s6 is a problem for white

Move 0 + 122

[17:01] LMP2021-2[?]: but there is a fight going on in the center, no time to worry about points

[17:02] LMP2021-2[?]: on the other hand r17 is HUGE

Move 0 + 117

[17:02] Gulfman[14k]: what about white trying to connect at o9 or p10

Move 0 + 122

[17:03] LMP2021-2[?]: you can play one of f it, black will play the other

[17:03] LMP2021-3[?]: how much time does Koichi have?

[17:03] LMP2021-2[?]: white can try to live with s6

[17:03] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi 34min

[17:03] LMP2021-3[?]: ty

[17:03] LMP2021-2[?]: np

[17:06] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi made his signature gesture, he is hitting his head

Move 0 + 117

[17:06] Gulfman[14k]: lol

Move 0 + 122

[17:06] LMP2021-2[?]: tough move to make

[17:06] tryk8[?]: white is safe

Move 0 + 123

[17:06] LMP2021-2[?]: i did not expect this

Move 0 + 117

[17:06] Gulfman[14k]: if he take l12...???

Move 0 + 123

[17:07] LMP2021-2[?]: L12 -> J14 and there is cut

Move 0 + 124

[17:07] LMP2021-2[?]: h18 incoming!

Move 0 + 126

[17:08] duivel[2d]: h18 doesnt work

[17:08] duivel[2d]: so k14 is mistake

[17:08] LMP2021-2[?]: it doesn't?

[17:09] LMP2021-2[?]: where is the second eye after h18?

Move 0 + 128

[17:09] LMP2021-2[?]: tadam

[17:10] JanFrczak[?]: hmm?

Move 0 + 130

[17:10] JanFrczak[?]: just there

[17:10] LMP2021-2[?]: where?

[17:11] JanFrczak[?]: nowhere :(

Move 0 + 132

[17:11] LMP2021-2[?]: maybe I'm retired but I still see stuff :P

[17:14] LMP2021-2[?]: is center completely safe?

Move 0 + 133

[17:15] LMP2021-2[?]: white still needs eyes to win

[17:15] Gulfman[14k]: if black cuts at L11and k10...couldn't he kill the white center

Move 0 + 134

[17:15] LMP2021-2[?]: white will give up half of it

[17:15] duivel[2d]: J13

[17:15] LMP2021-2[?]: but can't give up whole group

[17:16] LMP2021-2[?]: Black has still 23minutes to figure it out

[17:17] LMP2021-2[?]: Stanisław looks calm already

[17:19] Mrrr[1d]: bialas wyglada na trupa, zaczalbym od J5 ;)

[17:20] Mrrr[1d]: dopiero zaczalem przegladac partie, wiec slabo nadazam

[17:20] LMP2021-2[?]: g8 is senter eye

[17:20] Mrrr[1d]: ale przeciez to w centrum to zewlok

Move 0 + 138

[17:21] Mrrr[1d]: fakt.

[17:21] Mrrr[1d]: no to zaczac trzeba od g8

Move 0 + 134

[17:21] LMP2021-2[?]: j5, j6, g8, f8, k7

Move 0 + 138

[17:21] Mrrr[1d]: ok, a co jak czarny g8?

Move 0 + 134

[17:22] LMP2021-2[?]: h4

[17:22] LMP2021-2[?]: and push black to the side, then capture

[17:22] Bjondro[6k]: H4 daje drugie oko w sente chyba

[17:22] LMP2021-2[?]: l5 also sente

Move 0 + 141

[17:23] Mrrr[1d]: ok, widze, dzieki

[17:23] Mrrr[1d]: hm

Move 0 + 134

[17:23] Bjondro[6k]: Ale połowa grupy będzie odcięta, nadal mało dla czarnego

[17:23] LMP2021-2[?]: Mrr, Bjondro - some people here speak only english, let's switch

Move 0 + 145

[17:23] Mrrr[1d]: Variation: coś takiego jest jeszcze, ko?

Move 0 + 134

[17:24] Bjondro[6k]: H4 seems make second eye on sente

Move 0 + 139

[17:24] Mrrr[1d]: w moim wariancie jest blad, bialy moze w pewnym momencie G9

[17:24] Mrrr[1d]: czyli zyje na bank :(

Move 0 + 136

[17:24] Gulfman[14k]: Got to go...thanks all for commentary!!!

[17:24] Bjondro[6k]: What if Black willa take it first

Move 0 + 137

[17:27] LMP2021-2[?]: that's using opponent's byo effectively :D

Move 0 + 140

[17:28] LMP2021-2[?]: f19?

[17:28] LMP2021-2[?]: or c15 first?

[17:29] LMP2021-2[?]: or even c12, b10, c15 and then b17

[17:29] LMP2021-2[?]: maybe syere's some hope for seki

[17:29] Bjondro[6k]: H4 L5 miai?

[17:30] LMP2021-2[?]: black has still 11minutes

[17:31] LMP2021-2[?]: no seki in the corner, white can easily make 2 eyes there

[17:31] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi must be furious

[17:33] Radziol[2d]: ko

Move 0 + 141

[17:33] LMP2021-2[?]: Radziol - how?

Move 0 + 144

[17:35] LMP2021-2[?]: $*!%, there had to be sth then

Move 0 + 147

[17:35] Radziol[2d]: nie wiem jak sie tu wariacje udostepnia

Move 0 + 149

[17:35] Radziol[2d]: wklepałem jakby bialy sie nie zgodzil na ko

Move 0 + 151

[17:35] Mrrr[1d]: powyzej okna z komentarzem masz okno z miejscem na nazwe wariantu i "Share"

Move 0 + 153

[17:36] duivel[2d]: F18

[17:36] duivel[2d]: game over

[17:36] LMP2021-2[?]: ?

Move 0 + 151

[17:36] Radziol[2d]: Variation: Wariacja

Move 0 + 154

[17:37] Radziol[2d]: Dzięki Mrrr

Move 0 + 159

[17:38] Mrrr[1d]: no problemo signor

[17:38] Mrrr[1d]: wyszloby ze czarny przezylby w rogu, a bialy polaczyl sie banda :)

Move 0 + 154

[17:38] LMP2021-2[?]: j13 was not a ko threat, painful

Move 0 + 158

[17:39] LMP2021-2[?]: shouldn't white exchange b11?

Move 0 + 162

[17:40] duivel[2d]: shouldnt

Move 0 + 164

[17:41] LMP2021-2[?]: oh, 1 step ahead

[17:41] LMP2021-2[?]: nice

Move 0 + 166

[17:41] Sadiker[?]: bida

Move 0 + 168

[17:42] Mrrr[1d]: siasio powinien dawac kazdemu dwa kamienie handi, inaczej to bez sensu :)

[17:43] Bjondro[6k]: Maybe l5 not working now

[17:43] LMP2021-2[?]: i'd say siasio was very lucky in this game

[17:44] LMP2021-2[?]: or at least it wasn't one sided at all

[17:44] LMP2021-3[?]: I wonder what Siasio thinks about this game

[17:44] LMP2021-2[?]: mee too

Move 0 + 169

[17:45] Bjondro[6k]: But nie all center van be dead

[17:45] bartosz[?]: koichi for the 3rd polish pro

[17:45] JanFrczak[?]: siasio tu chyba zyje nie?

Move 0 + 172

[17:46] LMP2021-2[?]: alive, no problemo

[17:46] Bjondro[6k]: Ah forgot this still works

[17:46] LMP2021-2[?]: but g8 no longer sente eye

[17:47] Radziol[2d]: I think e18 could be mistake. Probably e19 dosent give na option of ko for black

Move 0 + 173

[17:47] Radziol[2d]: There was some semeai though

[17:47] LMP2021-2[?]: maybe, byo kicked in

Move 0 + 174

[17:48] LMP2021-2[?]: l11?

[17:48] LMP2021-2[?]: or r17?

Move 0 + 182

[17:50] Bjondro[6k]: GG koichi nice game

Move 0 + 184

[17:52] LMP2021-2[?]: Koichi seems to be counting

Move 0 + 234

[18:04] LMP2021-2[?]: W+R

[18:05] 💖 KoBa 💖[3k]: gg ^^

[18:05] 博安德[4k]: thanks for broadcasting

[18:06] LMP2021-2[?]: you're welcome

[18:07] marmez[2k]: dzięki :)

[18:07] marmez[2k]: do jutra!

[18:07] LMP2021-2[?]: do jutra :)

[18:07] LMP2021-2[?]: jutro zaczynamy chyba wcześniej

[18:08] LMP2021-2[?]: 9:00 am

Move 0 + 43

[18:09] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: Variation: It's normal, but isn't this the case?

Move 0 + 234

[18:11] duivel[2d]: is it first polish game on pro level from both sides?

Move 0 + 151

[18:13] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: No, it's the personal opinion of an amateur high-ranking person.

Move 0 + 234

[18:17] sejmalan[9k]: 1p to pro dan?

Move 0

[18:20] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: White is the first professional stage. In Japan, it is roughly equivalent to the amateur prefecture representative class.

Move 0 + 234

[18:26] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: ● Hit S6 and it looks like white is being taken to me.

[18:34] yaku1990[5k]: I wonder if then w p13 would be hard for b?

[18:34] yaku1990[5k]: But isn´t white in lead aneway?

[18:35] yaku1990[5k]: anyway*

[18:51] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: It's easy to get the white on the right side ... ● I think you don't want to sacrifice Q14.

[18:54] Mr. Plum[7k]: hmm

Move 0 + 243

[18:56] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: Variation: get right side.

Move 0 + 242

[18:58] まいどー(^笑^)/[2d]: Variation: but,●Q14 When rescued

Move 0 + 234

[19:30] yaku1990[5k]: is the game over?