Becoming SDK - Lesson 4

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March 26, 2015

[2:12] herbie[15k]: two points?

[2:12] Laon[15k]: two spaces?

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[2:12] ayatiru[24k]: Variation: P14?

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[2:13] Amazing[10k]: R12 ...

[2:13] Laon[15k]: split at r12

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[2:13] herbie[15k]: there's a weakness at r12

[2:14] kljlkjlkj[1k]: s13

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[2:15] Amazing[10k]: Why should S13 be good at that point?

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[2:15] herbie[15k]: and one space is too slow right?

[2:15] Amazing[10k]: yes

[2:15] mark5000[2d]: Was there a question about S13? I didn't say anything about it.

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[2:16] herbie[15k]: I think it may have been a move suggestion

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[2:16] Amazing[10k]: klijkill, some 1k asked about it.

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[2:18] Laon[15k]: isent that bad for white

[2:18] mark5000[2d]: I'll get there :)

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[2:18] Amazing[10k]: After Black R12, White could respond Q12 now.

[2:18] adamluffy[16k]: white should listen to the proverb

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[2:18] Laon[15k]: hey adam

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[2:19] adamluffy[16k]: hey laon...

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[2:23] Tokumoto[10k]: if you are not seeing the progress, press the circling arrow icon to sync with mark

[2:24] herbie[15k]: Tokumoto san~ p/

[2:24] herbie[15k]: *o/

[2:24] Tokumoto[10k]: heya hervie

[2:24] Tokumoto[10k]: herbie

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[2:25] herbie[15k]: I lost by 5.5 points to a 10k on kgs and got a rank of 11k a little bit ago ==3

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[2:25] herbie[15k]: *=3

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[2:25] Tokumoto[10k]: good!

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[2:26] herbie[15k]: isn't that the kobayashi opening or something?

[2:26] mark5000[2d]: It's part of it, yeah

[2:26] mark5000[2d]: I can demonsrate after this if you want.

[2:26] herbie[15k]: ^^

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[2:26] herbie[15k]: that would be nice, thanks =3

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[2:27] herbie[15k]: wait the end of the joseki is without the two space extension?

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[2:27] herbie[15k]: xD

[2:28] Laon[15k]: xD

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[2:29] herbie[15k]: Thanks mark!

[2:29] darev[14k]: Thank you

[2:29] Tokumoto[10k]: thank you Mark

[2:29] adamluffy[16k]: thanks mark

[2:29] Laon[15k]: thanks

[2:29] GeckoNaptime[9k]: Thanks for the lecture.

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[2:29] lewisherman5[16k]: thanks mark!

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[2:29] Arbacca[15k]: Thank you

[2:29] mark5000[2d]: Any questions about the one-space answer for black?

[2:29] adamluffy[16k]: who is kobayashi?

[2:29] Tokumoto[10k]: one-space answer?

[2:29] herbie[15k]: I might have some once I go back and look at the beginning xD

[2:30] lewisherman5[16k]: I have one

[2:30] mark5000[2d]: Tokumoto, labeled 1-3 above.

[2:30] Manslay[1d]: should correlate with upper-left corner i think

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[2:30] xhu98[4d]: Variation: What about this White move?

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[2:30] Tokumoto[10k]: ah I see

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[2:32] herbie[15k]: woah that sounds like a nice evil plan =p

[2:33] xhu98[4d]: Right, which is why White only plays this

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[2:33] xhu98[4d]: When he has a stone at Q10

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[2:34] mark5000[2d]: Correct

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[2:34] xhu98[4d]: Which is by the way

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[2:34] xhu98[4d]: Why the one-space-high answer is unfavorable in some games

[2:35] xhu98[4d]: Because Black will usually not tenuki after White Q10

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[2:36] lewisherman5[16k]: Is playing on the star point a suitable pincer?

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[2:36] mark5000[2d]: Yes, it is.

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[2:36] Tokumoto[10k]: So I guess the lesson here is that we need to be shrewd, mean and nasty to become a 9k :P

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[2:36] mark5000[2d]: Yes!!!

[2:37] xhu98[4d]: Yeah, pros want instant cash

[2:38] mark5000[2d]: I like this move a lot, actually

[2:38] xhu98[4d]: Oh and by the way

[2:38] mark5000[2d]: It's seeing a kind of revival in professional games w the High Chinese opening

[2:38] xhu98[4d]: After Black's one-space-high answer,

[2:38] xhu98[4d]: Could we talk about White's direct 3-3 invasion?

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[2:39] xhu98[4d]: Reminds me of low Chinese openings

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[2:40] xhu98[4d]: By the way, this doesn't happen when Black plays the one-space-low answer

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[2:42] mark5000[2d]: Any other questions? I know there was a Kobayashi question

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[2:44] xhu98[4d]: In this case, Black's one-space-low answer seems slightly better. But that will be saved for a later episode :)

[2:44] mlopezviedma[12k]: you ment black?

[2:44] xhu98[4d]: Yes.

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[2:44] lewisherman5[16k]: I have an off-topic question. My friend has a 3-4 opening response that I struggle to deal with.

[2:44] mlopezviedma[12k]: :)

[2:45] xhu98[4d]: Black has a good combination of 3rd- and 4th- line stones. Plus, there's no annoyance at M17

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[2:46] mark5000[2d]: That concludes today's lecture and Q+A.

[2:46] mark5000[2d]: Thanks everyone!

[2:46] mlopezviedma[12k]: great lecture, mark5000 , thanks a lot!

[2:46] xhu98[4d]: Thanks so much Mark!

[2:46] xhu98[4d]: Great lesson! <3

[2:46] mark5000[2d]: For players who came late, please review the beginning too!

[2:47] mark5000[2d]: And find the first 3 lectures here: becoming 9-kyu-a-series-for-beginners

[2:47] mark5000[2d]: This is lecture 4

[2:47] xhu98[4d]: There you go, like #20

[2:47] Tokumoto[10k]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koichi_Kobayashi

[2:52] NinzieQT[7k]: this is already over =)?

[2:53] mark5000[2d]: Yes! But you can read all about it. :-)

[2:53] Tokumoto[10k]: yes, we successfully avoided you!

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[2:54] NinzieQT[7k]: nice

[2:54] NinzieQT[7k]: I can go over this at my own pace

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[2:59] MacGyverLizard[10k]: did i miss it or is it still going on?

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[2:59] NinzieQT[7k]: it's over

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[3:00] MacGyverLizard[10k]: ok thx

October 8, 2015

[6:40] seestarr2003[7k]: Variation: d1

March 17, 2016

[6:26] densmnko[25k]: Variation: d1

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March 25, 2019

[21:26] It_is_a_normal[7k]: Thank you very much Too!

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March 1, 2020

[14:50] OuttaSpace[6k]: why didnt you cover R17?

[14:50] OuttaSpace[6k]: as an answer to one point jump of 4-4

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May 12, 2020

[3:07] piupiu[10k]: Hello