Game Finished

Move 176

Holon[8k]

3 captures

Toadking[2k]

8 captures

+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

White wins by Resignation

Move 0

January 17, 2025

[17:45] Toadking[2k]: Yoyo

Move 5

[17:46] Toadking[2k]: Interesting move choice

Move 20

[17:48] Holon[8k]: unexpected...

[17:48] Toadking[2k]: ?

[17:48] Holon[8k]: I would die with that move

[17:48] Toadking[2k]: I think that was the best move? But maybe I'm wrong

Move 22

[17:49] Holon[8k]: weird

[17:49] Holon[8k]: Variation: this is just dead

Move 21

[17:49] Toadking[2k]: Undo

Move 20

[17:49] Holon[8k]: I can't believe this is not alive it should be

[17:49] Toadking[2k]: Play on

[17:50] Toadking[2k]: The same smove

Move 22

[17:50] Toadking[2k]: Cant u make eyes by extending

[17:50] Toadking[2k]: B15

[17:50] Toadking[2k]: Or no?

Move 25

[17:51] Holon[8k]: it's a false eye

[17:51] Holon[8k]: or can't you hane?

Move 26

[17:51] Toadking[2k]: Yeah

[17:51] Toadking[2k]: I think it holds

Move 37

[17:52] Toadking[2k]: Wow

[17:52] Toadking[2k]: Complicated

[17:52] Holon[8k]: We are inventing a new joseki? xD

[17:52] Toadking[2k]: We are inventing something indeed xD

[17:53] Toadking[2k]: Hmm you threaten a ladder if I be greedy

[17:53] Holon[8k]: yep

[17:53] Toadking[2k]: Very weird position

Move 38

[17:54] Holon[8k]: It's so funny our games always end up in positions where we both kinda have no clue what's going on

[17:54] Toadking[2k]: Truuuu lol

Move 39

[17:54] Toadking[2k]: It's always some crazyness

Move 40

[17:54] Holon[8k]: So I live in a weird complex way

[17:55] Toadking[2k]: Yeah but I got some nice influence

Move 42

[17:55] Holon[8k]: Oh I think I have to play G17, if you play it I am in atari

Move 43

[17:55] Toadking[2k]: Yep

Move 83

[18:00] Toadking[2k]: I guess I can allow u to live lol

Move 85

[18:00] Toadking[2k]: Actually I can't

Move 86

[18:00] Holon[8k]: lol

[18:00] Holon[8k]: I didn't see that at all

[18:01] Toadking[2k]: I didn't for a sec

Move 147

[18:06] Toadking[2k]: I think the issue in our games

[18:06] Toadking[2k]: Is I always capture some important cutting stones early

[18:06] Toadking[2k]: And the become too painful

Move 150

[18:07] Holon[8k]: You are just good at cutting me in the right places. And thus I often can't protect them all

Move 154

[18:07] Toadking[2k]: Maybe

Move 176

[18:10] Holon[8k]: I don't know. I am kinda upset I didn't just live on the bottom. The initial pincer and extension was not crazy.

[18:11] Toadking[2k]: Yeah u should of been able to live here

[18:11] Holon[8k]: I think I spent too much time making the corner a little too safe

[18:11] Toadking[2k]: Exactly

[18:11] Toadking[2k]: Variation: Huge error

[18:12] Holon[8k]: Let's kill this and play again. I want to look at that thing at the start

[18:12] Toadking[2k]: I'm down for another

[18:13] Toadking[2k]: Wow so the move u made initially was correct

[18:13] Holon[8k]: Variation: AI variation.... eh.... but why?

[18:14] Toadking[2k]: Wow

[18:14] Holon[8k]: Variation: this was your blue move btw... the one I expected xD

[18:14] Toadking[2k]: Yeah I should of played less blood thirsty

[18:15] Toadking[2k]: I got too hasty

[18:15] Toadking[2k]: Variation: This was a big error, since I already captured cutting stones

[18:15] Holon[8k]: Variation: When I had this, I was like... I am alive now. And I really should be.

[18:16] Holon[8k]: Yeah I thought I was smart and get some influence. But you were too strong even after I forced you to capture

[18:17] Toadking[2k]: Variation: This move is too early

[18:17] Toadking[2k]: I would just approach normally

[18:17] Toadking[2k]: That type of move is more so when you already have positions everywhere else and just wanna live easily

[18:18] Holon[8k]: I find the move poitless any time later.... it only makes sense as an approach move

[18:18] Toadking[2k]: I don't think so

[18:19] Toadking[2k]: Variation: Maybe here it would make more sense

[18:19] Toadking[2k]: Even then I don't like it much

[18:19] Holon[8k]: Oh you mean when White is already at K16, K17, or anywhere around there... so I don't jump into a straight pincer?

[18:20] Toadking[2k]: Variation: This is the more common sequence

[18:21] Toadking[2k]: Yeah kinda like that If I understand u correctly

[18:21] Toadking[2k]: Variation: This feels more natural to me btw

[18:21] Holon[8k]: Variation: this looks kinda fun. You don't die, but I can squeze some influence here maybe.... better than in the game

[18:22] Toadking[2k]: Variation: Yeah maybe this much

[18:23] Toadking[2k]: One more?

[18:23] Holon[8k]: Variation: I wonder if I should have lived with this stuff

[18:23] Holon[8k]: sure

[18:23] Toadking[2k]: Variation: I would look for some attachments

[18:23] Toadking[2k]: Since u are weak here

[18:23] Toadking[2k]: Weak means = attach for strength

[18:24] Holon[8k]: That's kinda counterintuitive... attachements moves strengthen the stone you attach to...

[18:24] Toadking[2k]: Variation: Still not fun, but at least u escape here

[18:24] Holon[8k]: That's why we extend after a kick

[18:25] Toadking[2k]: Yeah its not intuitive, but when u are the strong one

[18:25] Toadking[2k]: Don't attach

[18:25] Toadking[2k]: Because I don't need a bad exchange to gain strength

[18:25] Holon[8k]: interesting

[18:25] Toadking[2k]: Since u are already strong

[18:25] Toadking[2k]: But when u are weak in an opponent's sphere of influence

[18:26] Toadking[2k]: U can afford to make a bad exchange to gain strength

[18:26] Toadking[2k]: Since they are already strong

[18:26] Holon[8k]: I see