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Move 1

20N11-JOANNE[15k]

0 captures

vegetta8787[10k]

0 captures

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Move 3

February 15, 2021

[16:25] vegetta8787[9k]: do you see? board changing and stuff?

Move 12

[16:25] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: 1

Move 7 + 2

[16:26] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: 2

[16:26] vegetta8787[9k]: if your stones are not in a straight line, cut is when you split them in two

Move 0 + 6

[16:27] vegetta8787[9k]: this is uncuttable, to capture you must surround everything

[16:27] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: 3

Move 0 + 12

[16:27] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: 4

[16:27] vegetta8787[9k]: a cut happens when your opponent, for example white can go through your stones

[16:27] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: ok

[16:27] vegetta8787[9k]: if you play well you can defend cuts, and they can't do much

Move 10

[16:28] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: 5

[16:28] vegetta8787[9k]: if you get atari (one stone away to get captures) on second line towards the wall

[16:28] vegetta8787[9k]: in most cases you will lose fight

Move 10 + 12

[16:28] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: can't escape

Move 10 + 12

[16:29] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: both ways

Move 10 + 6

[16:29] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: even if a stone is in the way

Move 10 + 1

[16:29] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is usual defense

Move 10 + 1

[16:29] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this works but it's too slow you give W points

Move 10 + 3

[16:30] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this works too

Move 10

[16:30] vegetta8787[9k]: if you get yourself in similar position always defend on second line

[16:30] vegetta8787[9k]: and if you can attack this way, do it too

[16:30] vegetta8787[9k]: do you see?

[16:31] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: ya

Move 19

[16:31] vegetta8787[9k]: you are trying to connect here, or surround me, but it's too late

[16:31] vegetta8787[9k]: it's gonna be very hard as you have holes

Move 7

[16:32] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: you need 5 moves to surround W completely, and also your stons are all over the place, vulnerable

[16:32] vegetta8787[9k]: W grooup is connected, you must surround completely to kill

[16:32] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: yes is too late

[16:32] vegetta8787[9k]: B group is split in lots of ways, one stone is lost and it's hardor impossible to kill W

Move 4 + 1

[16:32] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: when opponent connect you defend usually

Move 4

[16:33] vegetta8787[9k]: when W attaches to your stone, and you ignore, you are in disadvantage

Move 5

[16:33] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: when W connect , I connect mine one also?

[16:33] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: W needs 2 stones to capture B

[16:33] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: W needs 2 stones to capture B B needs 4

[16:33] vegetta8787[9k]: so in this situation if good play, W is ahead

Move 4 + 1

[16:34] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is more even, but since W moved first W still has advantage

Move 4 + 11

[16:34] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: idk maybe not this, still looks good for W

Move 4 + 1

[16:35] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: maybe even betteR?

[16:35] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: now W needs 5 stones to capture B

[16:35] vegetta8787[9k]: see how going away from W, makes it much harder to capture?

Move 4 + 3

[16:35] vegetta8787[9k]: do you know of ladder?

[16:36] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: W can't play at traingle, cause of ladder

Move 4

[16:36] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: don't knw

Move 4 + 5

[16:36] vegetta8787[9k]: it's good to always count liberties, to see how far away from capture a group is

[16:36] vegetta8787[9k]: helps in both defense and attack

Move 4 + 3

[16:36] vegetta8787[9k]: watch what happens if W plays at F7

Move 4 + 1

[16:37] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: alright

Move 4 + 5

[16:37] vegetta8787[9k]: G7 is capture right?

[16:37] vegetta8787[9k]: watch as W tries to escape

Move 4 + 13

[16:37] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is ladder

Move 4 + 18

[16:37] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is ladder for W

Move 4 + 4

[16:38] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: playing at X, is ladder for both B and W

Move 4 + 18

[16:38] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: ohh I knw this

Move 4 + 4

[16:38] vegetta8787[9k]: be careful with ladder so there are no stones in the way

[16:38] vegetta8787[9k]: somestimes you might think you have ladder,

Move 4 + 18

[16:39] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: how to escape from ladder

Move 24

[16:39] vegetta8787[9k]: well don't play inside ladder

[16:39] vegetta8787[9k]: lol

[16:39] vegetta8787[9k]: sometimes you can place a stone to break a ladder before playing ladder

[16:39] vegetta8787[9k]: but opponent can also break it

[16:39] vegetta8787[9k]: you must recognize a ladder and not play inside

Move 4 + 18

[16:40] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: okay

Move 24

[16:40] vegetta8787[9k]: you can't escape it, sometimes you can use it to your advantage

[16:40] vegetta8787[9k]: not all ladders work if there is something in the way

Move 4 + 5

[16:40] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is called a lader breaker

Move 4 + 15

[16:40] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: now W is double atari

[16:41] vegetta8787[9k]: to see if a ladder works, you must see if there is something in the way

Move 4 + 5

[16:41] vegetta8787[9k]: ladder goes like I show with circles

[16:41] vegetta8787[9k]: if there is a stone on the circle and sometimes nearby

[16:41] vegetta8787[9k]: ladder can be broken and it doesn't work

[16:41] vegetta8787[9k]: if there is nothing in the way, ladder works

Move 4 + 17

[16:42] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: W in trouble for example

Move 24

[16:42] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: always be caraeful when you're attacked

Move 24 + 4

[16:42] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is usual play

Move 4 + 15

[16:43] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: I see

Move 32

[16:43] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: these stones are dead X.X no longer need to play there

[16:43] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: vulnerable here, so yeah, you should focus on living

Move 53

[16:44] vegetta8787[9k]: at this point in game

Move 37

[16:44] vegetta8787[9k]: even at this point in game, it's very hard for B to live

Move 22 + 3

[16:44] vegetta8787[9k]: this for example is good for B

Move 22 + 10

[16:45] vegetta8787[9k]: ok no always defend first

Move 24 + 4

[16:45] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: ok

Move 22 + 2

[16:45] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: X are weakness

[16:45] vegetta8787[9k]: because if B pushes one direction, W can captur another

Move 22 + 3

[16:46] vegetta8787[9k]: even this is good if you don't know good defenses

Move 22

[16:46] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: X are weakness, and cut points

[16:46] vegetta8787[9k]: you must not havae too many cut points too close

Move 22 + 5

[16:47] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is good defense perhaps

[16:47] vegetta8787[9k]: very hard for W to kill now, or live

Move 17

[16:47] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: I see.

Move 16 + 1

[16:47] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: also important to close here

Move 17 + 3

[16:48] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: because of this

Move 16

[16:48] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is how much W can get

[16:48] vegetta8787[9k]: at least 3 points, and can make even more bad things

Move 17 + 3

[16:48] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: ok

Move 17 + 15

[16:49] vegetta8787[9k]: idk, defend that lol

Move 10

[16:49] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is how much W can get

Move 5

[16:49] vegetta8787[9k]: better to play in straight line than diagonal

Move 1 + 6

[16:50] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: slowest extension but safest

Move 1 + 2

[16:50] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: one space jump, faster but a bit weaker, still solid

Move 1 + 6

[16:50] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: knight move, like in chess

Move 4

[16:51] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: I see..that's why I always lose haha

Move 4 + 22

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: Variation: this is what a game might look like

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: you take corners, and then try to make a base there

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: on 9x9 many people play center and focus on attack

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: but in bigger board, like 19x19, people do that

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: play corner first, then side then center

Move 1

[16:52] vegetta8787[9k]: on 9x9 4-4 point is not safest

[16:53] vegetta8787[9k]: 3-3 is

[16:53] vegetta8787[9k]: 4-4 works too, but just so you know it can be invaded

Move 4 + 22

[16:53] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: wht means by 4-4

Move 1

[16:53] vegetta8787[9k]: if you count lines from wall

Move 1 + 12

[16:53] vegetta8787[9k]: 4 on both sides

[16:53] vegetta8787[9k]: you can say F6,

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: but when you say 4-4 it means 4-4 in any corner

Move 0

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: all 4-4 corners are triangle

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: I mean square

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: lol

Move 4 + 22

[16:54] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: okk

Move 0

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: 3-3

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: and on 19x19 you have 5-5

[16:54] vegetta8787[9k]: here 5-5 is center

[16:55] vegetta8787[9k]: any more questions lol?

Move 4 + 22

[16:55] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: no for now I think haha

[16:55] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: can I review back anytime?

[16:55] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: or for now only

Move 0

[16:56] vegetta8787[9k]: on your profile page on the bottom you have review

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: on any game you played, you can click on right corner analyze game to have access to history of moves and try variations

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: review is when someone else dos it for you, like shows you stuff

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: analyze is for yourself usually

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: you can check history of all your games

Move 26

[16:57] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: alright

Move 0

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: on your profile, analyze game on right side

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: try it

[16:57] vegetta8787[9k]: good luck and have fun

Move 26

[16:57] 20N11-JOANNE[15k]: Tqvm

Move 0

[16:59] vegetta8787[9k]: np, take care