TIGGRE EllieCup 2023 R4 T2

Move 311

FREJLAK Stanislaw[7d]

32 captures

DEBARRE Thomas[7d]

16 captures

+ 7.5

Unranked

Rules: AGA

Review by: ...

Move 0

January 29, 2023

[8:39] EGF2[?]: Welcome to Grenoble's TIGGRE EllieCup 2023 - rd4 - table1: demo 1013945 (KIM Dohyup 7d(W) PODPERA Lukas 7d(B)) - table2: demo 1013958 (DEBARRE Thomas 7d(W) FREJLAK Stanislaw 7d(W))

Move 0 + 30

[8:56] EGF2[?]: on table 3, Ali and Jonas played 2 facing san-ran-sei

Move 0 + 35

[8:58] EGF2[?]: now w q5?

[9:00] EGF2[?]: (EGC2 & 1 switched today ^^ I'm the one saying silly things)

[9:00] EGF2[?]: (we wanted to scribe the other table)

Move 0 + 36

[9:02] EGF2[?]: of course ^^

Move 0 + 37

[9:02] ben0[4d]: What color has Jonas?

Move 0 + 38

[9:03] EGF2[?]: B (their game evolved a lot now)

[9:05] EGF2[?]: oh, it's mirror go

Move 0 + 39

[9:05] ben0[4d]: So Ali is playing mirror to Jonas, good

Move 0 + 40

[9:05] EGF2[?]: a taste of his own medicine?

[9:05] ben0[4d]: Yep

Move 0 + 43

[9:08] EGF2[?]: I wonder who will get to play around c7 or c8 in this game...

Move 0 + 47

[9:11] EGF2[?]: as a second line lover, I'd play w h2 here (and lose, of cource)

Move 0 + 48

[9:15] EGF2[?]: Welcome to Grenoble's TIGGRE EllieCup 2023 - rd4of5. site: https://tiggre-elliecup.jeudego.org/en/ pairings&results: https://tiggre-elliecup.jeudego.org/en/tirage-et-resultats/ Today's games will be also broadcasted on the EGF Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation and later commented by Inseong Hwang 8d

Move 0 + 50

[9:18] EGF2[?]: Ali-Jonas: still mirroring, no tengen yet

Move 0 + 51

[9:21] EGF2[?]: seems there is a possible shicho aiming at tengen, and ali is pondering a lot on the current move

Move 0 + 54

[9:24] EGF2[?]: thomas played and went to have a look at table 3 (and is back)

Move 0 + 61

[9:38] DareDareMotus[1k]: what a brutish looking corner

Move 0 + 75

[9:50] EGF2[?]: does w need q6 now? or need o8 first?

[9:54] EGF2[?]: q6 looks good to me

Move 0 + 76

[9:55] Pempu[3d]: E8 feels very important

Move 0 + 89

[9:57] Pempu[3d]: Variation: Something weird

Move 0 + 77

[10:01] EGF2[?]: W has 19mn 30sec, B has 29mn, (Fisher time, +15sec/moves)

[10:02] EGF2[?]: does w has time for o7? thomas seems to look that way

Move 0 + 79

[10:03] EGF2[?]: w left group looks in big troubles

[10:05] EGF2[?]: (still has b10 and then d1 ko?)

[10:05] EGF2[?]: d1 would need to be first probably?

Move 0 + 82

[10:07] EGF2[?]: ? I can't read what happens here after e1

[10:11] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: if black takes, white will be connected or black will be cut

[10:11] EGF2[?]: aiming a bit at k3 group though (and w f5 could help connect both w groups?)

Move 0 + 83

[10:12] EGF2[?]: let's find out

Move 0 + 84

[10:13] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: if black keeps separate, then white will cut k3 group

[10:13] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: and then its complicated haha

Move 0 + 85

[10:14] EGF2[?]: b connected to corner?

Move 0 + 92

[10:14] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: Variation: 1

Move 0 + 87

[10:15] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: ok white didnt make the bad exchanges i made haha

[10:17] EGF2[?]: Thomas is hesitating

[10:18] EGF2[?]: h3 h2? seems not too good for w?

Move 0 + 88

[10:18] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: h3 is ok

Move 0 + 89

[10:19] EGF2[?]: j3 now?

[10:19] EGF2[?]: ohh k4?

[10:19] Pempu[3d]: both got cash here

[10:19] EGF2[?]: k4 takes?

[10:19] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: there is a shisho with j3 haha

[10:20] EGF2[?]: I like k4 :)

[10:21] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: j4 is ok

[10:21] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: there is a lot of aji

[10:21] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: if black tries to cut at all cost he will die somewhere

Move 0 + 90

[10:22] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: j2 black than k4 white

[10:22] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: and black can play elsewhere

[10:23] EGF2[?]: but b k4? w can't j2? (b j3 double atari?)

[10:23] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: not a problem

[10:23] EGF2[?]: but w has f5 to help

[10:23] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: yes

Move 0 + 91

[10:24] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: if black tries to cut j2, than f5 can go throu

[10:24] EGF2[?]: so... here f5?

Move 0 + 101

[10:24] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: Variation: 2

Move 0 + 91

[10:24] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: k4 and ko maybe

Move 0 + 92

[10:25] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: nice, no need for k4 haha

[10:25] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: really really nice sequence by white

[10:25] EGF2[?]: table 3 no longer mirrored

Move 0 + 93

[10:27] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: here we go for headaches

[10:27] EGF2[?]: w connects in sente?

[10:27] EGF2[?]: or m9?

[10:28] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: maybe e5 isnt sente

[10:28] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: but maybe its fair trade

Move 0 + 94

[10:28] EGF2[?]: ... or this

Move 0 + 95

[10:30] EGF2[?]: w n10? to still aim k4?

[10:31] EGF2[?]: (but e5 would have to be played first?)

[10:32] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: bamboo looks fine

[10:32] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: but e5 is so big

[10:32] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: maybe e5 is worth it

[10:32] tryk8[?]: Kata says black lost 9 points and his entire lead in the last few moves

[10:32] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: at this point who knows

[10:32] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: ok katago knows haha

[10:33] EGF2[?]: Welcome to Grenoble's TIGGRE EllieCup 2023 - rd4of5. site: https://tiggre-elliecup.jeudego.org/en/ pairings&results: https://tiggre-elliecup.jeudego.org/en/tirage-et-resultats/ Today's games will be also broadcasted on the EGF Twitch channel https://www.twitch.tv/europeangofederation and commented by Inseong Hwang 8d

[10:33] EGF2[?]: (currently ongoing.. I was waiting to announce it but was paused in twitch :'( )

Move 0 + 96

[10:34] tryk8[?]: Killing left was much better

[10:34] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: what katago says about c10 ?

[10:34] tryk8[?]: Blue move

Move 0 + 97

[10:34] tryk8[?]: the best

Move 0 + 99

[10:34] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: incredible

Move 0 + 100

[10:35] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: this is so powerful

[10:35] EGF2[?]: magic thomas

Move 0 + 102

[10:35] EGF2[?]: wow

[10:36] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: je suis choqué de son niveau

[10:36] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: voilà

[10:37] EGF2[?]: so much changes in a few moves

[10:40] EGF2[?]: Thomas is playing much less often nowadays (well, for many years)... I'm impressed he is still as strong as before

Move 0 + 104

[10:41] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: he played like one tournament per year for the last few years and he's still at top lvl of europe

[10:41] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: this is impressive

[10:44] EGF2[?]: I remember the french egc (2011?) : several pros really liked his style and approach to the game (he was 6d then? maybe 5)

[10:44] EGF2[?]: I'd aim at k4 now for w, now that d5 looks safe

Move 0 + 111

[10:46] EGF2[?]: w is in byo yomi

Move 0 + 115

[10:46] EGF2[?]: c12?

Move 0 + 119

[10:47] EGF2[?]: thomas shakes his head

Move 0 + 132

[10:53] EGF2[?]: ongoing commentaryby Inseong 8d on egf's twitch channel

Move 0 + 134

[10:59] EGF2[?]: wow...

Move 0 + 138

[11:00] mocramis[2k]: is white dead ?

Move 0 + 142

[11:01] EGF2[?]: well... I like w still here

Move 0 + 143

[11:02] bartosz[5k]: how much time left?

Move 0 + 144

[11:02] EGF2[?]: 3mn b, 42sec w

Move 0 + 145

[11:03] bartosz[5k]: thanks

Move 0 + 152

[11:04] EGF2[?]: wow

Move 0 + 160

[11:08] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: resign should be soon

[11:08] EGF2[?]: help w with n16 o16 moves later on?

Move 0 + 162

[11:08] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: ok maybe not lol

Move 0 + 143

[11:10] EGF2[?]: ?? w not many libs here?

Move 0 + 168

[11:10] mocramis[2k]: missing moves ?

[11:10] EGF2[?]: g10??

Move 0 + 177

[11:12] EGF2[?]: m14now? or something around o10?

Move 0 + 178

[11:12] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: n13 is good

[11:13] tryk8[?]: n10

Move 0 + 182

[11:14] tap1998[3d]: N15 working now?

Move 0 + 187

[11:14] tap1998[3d]: Variation: like this

Move 0 + 184

[11:15] EGF2[?]: ?

Move 0 + 186

[11:15] EGF2[?]: w couldn't w o16?

Move 0 + 187

[11:16] tap1998[3d]: he's still cut off

Move 0 + 189

[11:16] tap1998[3d]: Variation: and liberty race doesn't work anymore

Move 0 + 193

[11:16] tap1998[3d]: what a nice emergency measure!

Move 0 + 194

[11:17] EGF2[?]: oh yeah,e19 taken ^^ I'm silly

[11:17] EGF2[?]: wow, b considering the trade

Move 0 + 198

[11:19] EGF2[?]: so much changed again!

Move 0 + 200

[11:19] bartosz[5k]: Amazing game

Move 0 + 203

[11:20] tryk8[?]: black lost 7 points playing this ko

Move 0 + 206

[11:20] tryk8[?]: but he's still ahead

Move 0 + 207

[11:21] EGF2[?]: w needs e8 for middle w group now?

Move 0 + 210

[11:22] tryk8[?]: both center groups are safe

Move 0 + 231

[11:26] EGF2[?]: connect?

[11:26] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: life by double ko ?

Move 0 + 232

[11:27] EGF2[?]: b can live with m1 i needed. I'd have connected?

Move 0 + 246

[11:29] Fantleroy[5d]: why not use F10 ?

Move 0 + 258

[11:31] EGF2[?]: :(

Move 0 + 260

[11:31] liquescens[?]: I press f10 and nothing happens

[11:32] EGF2[?]: try alt+f4

Move 0 + 261

[11:32] Fantleroy[5d]: classic

Move 0 + 266

[11:34] EGF2[?]: both played very wellb needs j13?

Move 0 + 270

[11:34] Fantleroy[5d]: it's a pity this board is so full of stones, it feels like w was like 2 or 3 ko away from being back in the game

Move 0 + 272

[11:35] ben0[4d]: How is Ali-Jonas and Tanguy-Cornel?

Move 0 + 285

[11:37] Titaantjes[?]: Coulc you update the results page?

Move 0 + 307

[11:40] EGF2[?]: f8?

Move 0 + 309

[11:40] EGF2[?]: :(

Move 0 + 311

[11:41] liquescens[?]: what?

[11:41] Sun Tzu et Go[7k]: WTF

[11:41] EGF2[?]: I know...

[11:42] bartosz[5k]: at least black was winning

[11:42] Litchy[2d]: ow

[11:42] bartosz[5k]: so it doesnt matter :D

[11:42] bartosz[5k]: would be painful to lose this way

[11:42] EGF2[?]: w resigned

[11:42] Rorin Kaiho[2d]: terrible

[11:43] tryk8[?]: anyway he was 11 poits behind

Move 0 + 309

[11:44] Litchy[2d]: allez coups 310 et 311 n'ont pas existé abandon au 309^^

[11:45] Litchy[2d]: (on fait comme si)