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Ke Jie[9p]

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AlphaGo[9p]

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+ 7.5

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Rules: Chinese

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[3:37] goking1[1d]: Variation: 1

[3:39] goking1[1d]: Variation: 2

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[4:02] gamesorry[3d]: Variation: 3

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[4:31] gamesorry[3d]: Variation: Aiming for A/B

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[4:46] journeyk[1d]: whats the bet?

[4:47] gamesorry[3d]: Did white play L17 or J17 first?

[4:47] gamesorry[3d]: I missed that

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[4:51] adrianvc[2k]: J17

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[4:52] gamesorry[3d]: thanks

[4:52] journeyk[1d]: whos leading from all the pro here perspective?

[4:53] gamesorry[3d]: Chang Hao: Black needs to do sth about this white's group

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[4:54] journeyk[1d]: that is obvious

[4:54] pagia[3d]: if dragon of white live,black is lose

[4:54] journeyk[1d]: but thinks looking great for kejie in my perspective

[4:54] pagia[3d]: this is the last fight

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[4:55] Fumbar[13k]: for what it is worth, Leela has black at 35% chance to win

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[4:55] pagia[3d]: leela often make mistake in complex fight

[4:55] Fumbar[13k]: true, that is why i qualified my statement

[4:57] pagia[3d]: the win rate leela given by leela isn't very precise in fighting

[4:59] gamesorry[3d]: AlphaGo played H13 very quickly, while Chang Hao thinks human player needs to think for a long time here

[5:00] journeyk[1d]: who do you think gonna win gamesorry?

[5:01] gamesorry[3d]: Although I wish Ke Jie wins, but probably AlphaGo has a better chance

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[5:02] pagia[3d]: seems white is live :/

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[5:03] gamesorry[3d]: h14 is not sente now

[5:04] gamesorry[3d]: Right, w is alive

[5:05] journeyk[1d]: so whats the hope for kejie XD?

[5:05] Fumbar[13k]: 404 hope not found

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[5:05] journeyk[1d]: a miraculous invasion ?

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[5:06] gamesorry[3d]: He might need to fight for the komi

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[5:07] pianoman[8k]: Anyone know if there is a stream with Michael Redmond doing commentary?

[5:07] ihavenoideawhatimdoing13[2k]: https://www.twitch.tv/timeof1

[5:07] louisflakes[2d]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM

[5:07] louisflakes[2d]: redmond commentary^

[5:07] ZPCanGo[17k]: the deepmind stream has michael redmond

[5:08] pianoman[8k]: Thank you very much

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[5:08] journeyk[1d]: i think game is even actually

[5:08] journeyk[1d]: there

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[5:10] pagia[3d]: oh,M14,seems black is crashed

[5:11] journeyk[1d]: its offer for trade I think

[5:11] journeyk[1d]: black reduce G7 area and white cut

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[5:12] pagia[3d]: G7 is very big,but G9 G7 isn't sente

[5:13] pagia[3d]: L12 is being attack

[5:13] journeyk[1d]: yes

[5:13] journeyk[1d]: its not sente

[5:14] journeyk[1d]: so probably black will play a few more move before finally go to G7 ?

[5:14] journeyk[1d]: but you can tell that game is not as pessimistic as we originally thought

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[5:14] journeyk[1d]: see?

[5:14] journeyk[1d]: ^^

[5:15] Fumbar[13k]: yeah it has remained an interestin game

[5:15] Fumbar[13k]: even redmond said he was worried early on it was going to settle very quickly

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[5:15] journeyk[1d]: now its even agin i think

[5:15] journeyk[1d]: black slightly leading

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[5:15] journeyk[1d]: i guess

[5:16] pagia[3d]: I think black is still lag,cuz C12 group have aji at yose

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[5:17] journeyk[1d]: black eventually has to capture

[5:17] journeyk[1d]: there

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[5:18] journeyk[1d]: i think alpha go losing atm

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[5:19] journeyk[1d]: Variation: 4

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[5:19] Fuseques[4d]: if ke jie wins..

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[5:19] Fuseques[4d]: that would be something

[5:20] journeyk[1d]: i think kejie would win

[5:20] clywzach[5k]: what odds would you give him?

[5:20] journeyk[1d]: white is lag behind in territory

[5:20] Fuseques[4d]: i haven't counted

[5:20] Fuseques[4d]: but the flow of the game seems to be going in blacks favor

[5:20] pagia[3d]: W plays at N13 will press the moyo of black

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[5:21] Fuseques[4d]: that being said.. w seems to have alot of territory..

[5:21] Fuseques[4d]: mabye i should count

[5:21] journeyk[1d]: yes

[5:21] journeyk[1d]: you could

[5:21] journeyk[1d]: they seems to do my variation in different order XD

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[5:22] gamesorry[3d]: If white cuts at o5, then q6 becomes sente

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[5:23] pagia[3d]: seems they plays at N13 O14 alreay

[5:23] pagia[3d]: is this demo wrong?

[5:23] gamesorry[3d]: oops, sorry

[5:23] journeyk[1d]: a bit

[5:23] journeyk[1d]: yes

[5:23] journeyk[1d]: N13 ant O15 trade off

[5:24] Fuseques[4d]: w seems to be ahead by a few points to me

[5:24] Fuseques[4d]: very complicated endgame though

[5:25] gamesorry[3d]: Do you know when white played n13?

[5:25] cdefghij[2k]: before M5

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[5:25] ParanormalPancak[13k]: wait is this happening now? AND NO ONE TOLD ME

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[5:26] pagia[3d]: MOVE 134 N13 then o14

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[5:26] froggystyle[16k]: Is there live commentary?

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[5:26] froggystyle[16k]: In English?

[5:26] Shain[7k]: there is a link in chat

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[5:27] gamesorry[3d]: thanks

[5:27] ParanormalPancak[13k]: [0:07] ihavenoideawhatimdoing13: https://www.twitch.tv/timeof1 [0:07] louisflakes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-HL5nppBnM

[5:27] froggystyle[16k]: Tyvm

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[5:28] LPYoshi[5k]: is black winning??

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[5:28] pagia[3d]: my count is often wrong,LOL. So my yose is weak

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[5:28] LPYoshi[5k]: or is black lower left dead now?

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[5:28] froggystyle[16k]: Is match 1 of a series ?

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[5:28] blackgnezdo[21k]: This is the first match.

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[5:29] gamesorry[3d]: black is alive

[5:29] froggystyle[16k]: Of how many if you don't mind me asking

[5:29] gamesorry[3d]: 1/3

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[5:29] LPYoshi[5k]: im counting black has ~50, and white has ~36?

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[5:29] pagia[3d]: ok,the aji of D12 is finish ,can count it more precise

[5:29] froggystyle[16k]: Thanks again

[5:30] gamesorry[3d]: w has >45

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[5:30] LPYoshi[5k]: ahh..

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[5:31] Thrawn[13k]: Mike Redmond thinks white has about 55.

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[5:32] gamesorry[3d]: Yeah w has potential in the center

[5:34] Solace[17k]: It's annoying me how the commentators are still missing the F16 G16 exchange

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[5:35] xhu98[5d]: OMG

[5:35] xhu98[5d]: Every time the commentators play out a variation, the camera moves away

[5:35] xhu98[5d]: Like wtf

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[5:36] nadoss[2k]: xhu98: I just got home from hockey still have to shower the game started late

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[5:36] xhu98[5d]: I could have streamed better than that

[5:36] xhu98[5d]: Honestly, deepmind

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[5:36] Fuseques[4d]: they should have built a neural network that streams

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[5:37] xhu98[5d]: +1

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[5:37] Fuseques[4d]: trained on your youtube data

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[5:37] xhu98[5d]: Fuseques: Oh no, they'll learn all the smacktalk

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[5:38] Solace[17k]: then train a corresponding neural network comment generator?

[5:38] Shouldsee[15k]: :Solace: That sounds more realistic

[5:38] Shain[7k]: just train a network that can analyse games in depth and sell it

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[5:39] xhu98[5d]: nadoss: I PM'ed you

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[5:39] Fuseques[4d]: hmm i should be working..

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[5:40] Fuseques[4d]: i am trying to make a lego robot play the 9th symphony of beethoven

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[5:40] Fuseques[4d]: but it won't play them chords

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[5:41] pagia[3d]: two stone of black in center will live,but w can make his moyo became territory by attack two stone of B

[5:41] pagia[3d]: it's easy to read that W is winning a lot

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[5:43] journeyk[1d]: komi win i think

[5:44] pagia[3d]: yes,7.5 for pro is an huge point

[5:44] Solace[17k]: do you reckon it'll be that close?

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[5:46] sirius[9k]: is top white group still killable?

[5:46] Solace[17k]: not after the next exchange i don't think

[5:47] pagia[3d]: no,W kill two stone of B, it is sure live

[5:47] pagia[3d]: K16 stone of B is killed

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[5:48] Shouldsee[15k]: why the relay is keeping forking?

[5:49] pagia[3d]: click the sync button

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[5:49] gamesorry[3d]: I missed a few moves in the middle

[5:50] Solace[17k]: there's a sync button?

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[5:50] Shouldsee[15k]: @pagia: where is that button exactly?

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[5:52] pagia[3d]: when you are seeing the forking doesn't belongs the actual game,there is a sync button near the "pass" button

[5:52] Shouldsee[15k]: Oh gotcha. Many thanks!

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[5:53] Solace[17k]: ah, so it doesn't show up if you're already synced?

[5:53] pagia[3d]: yes

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[5:55] bynum[5d]: oh nice ogs is relaying it

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[5:56] journeyk[1d]: i think its sad how kejie is behind now

[5:57] nadoss[2k]: I missed the beginning so I really want to go back and watch it but i know it'll drag everyone in the review along with me haha

[5:57] Solace[17k]: it starts with KJ opening 2nd move with 3,3 then 4th move invading with a 3,3. So it was an interesting start

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[5:58] nadoss[2k]: cool

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[5:59] FGD5000[14k]: Nadoss can't you just open an incognito tab or use another browser on the side?

[5:59] FGD5000[14k]: Something you're not logged in with

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[5:59] Solace[17k]: might distract him from relaying =P

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[6:01] Solace[17k]: what's the komi for white? 7.5?

[6:02] pagia[3d]: AlphaGo still like make slow play and overplay when his is ahead.

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[6:05] pagia[3d]: yes,the komi is 7.5

[6:06] nadoss[2k]: yeah FGD5000 it'd be too much, I'm still sapped from hockey, just got home not a half hour ago

[6:07] Solace[17k]: That hanae that they mentioned W F8 looks really good

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[6:08] pagia[3d]: but after S5, white is gote, I'm afraid W can't take that point

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[6:11] journeyk[1d]: komi loss by kejie?

[6:11] journeyk[1d]: XD

[6:11] Solace[17k]: gotta say, that's still impressive against the new AG

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[6:13] nadoss[2k]: the dude in the stream is doing a bit in chinese and I want to know what it was because it seems like his partner enjoyed it

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[6:14] Shain[7k]: Solace: who knows, maybe AG is just that strong to force games to this result

[6:14] gemm[7k]: Is the game finished?

[6:14] Solace[17k]: not yet, still in endgame

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[6:14] Solace[17k]: but looks like AG + komi or something

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[6:15] gemm[7k]: fight at top was very impressive

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[6:18] 9*9 Professional[4d]: when you see alphago playing safe move u know she is winning

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[6:19] pagia[3d]: C18= good game,next match LOL

[6:20] nadoss[2k]: "Silly human"

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[6:20] Solace[17k]: "Oh, are we still playing?"

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[6:22] pagia[3d]: AG is attempt to win by 0.5 point,XD

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[6:22] Fumbar[13k]: wants us to keep making it stronger

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[6:22] journeyk[1d]: you are very pessimistic fumbar lol

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[6:22] Solace[17k]: R18 is interesting, I must remember that one

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[6:23] journeyk[1d]: its more about reading lol

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[6:23] pagia[3d]: r18 make T16 for W is no longer sente

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[6:23] Fumbar[13k]: uhh wants to be stronger so that it can teach us more!!!

[6:23] pagia[3d]: *T17

[6:23] Solace[17k]: yea, I just didn't consider how it affects the hane at T18

[6:24] Solace[17k]: *T17

[6:24] Fumbar[13k]: thanks for the explanation pa

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[6:25] 游智承[3d]: dead

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[6:26] pagia[3d]: Variation: B is gote

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[6:26] pagia[3d]: Variation: W is gote

[6:26] pagia[3d]: basic yose method at corner

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[6:27] 游智承[3d]: black now win abit

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[6:29] 游智承[3d]: but as white has yose alphago win actually

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[6:29] Jeanno[2d]: komi

[6:29] Jeanno[2d]: not yose

[6:30] 游智承[3d]: sorry my english is not pretty well

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[6:30] Solace[17k]: no problem ^_^

[6:30] gemm[7k]: I count like 77 b and 81,5 white

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[6:33] 游智承[3d]: go is easy to improve yourself just keep having competition in reallife

[6:34] 游智承[3d]: i mean im not a pro player

[6:34] Shain[7k]: i do hope they keep AG alive and playing.

[6:35] Shouldsee[15k]: The relay is lagging

[6:35] Solace[17k]: regardless, they've released the paper on how they developed it, I'm sure it won't be long till people make their own version

[6:35] Shain[7k]: and maybe play a correspondence team match agaist AG

[6:35] pagia[3d]: seems AG is really win by 0.5 point LOL

[6:35] 游智承[3d]: yep

[6:35] 游智承[3d]: close game

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[6:36] Solace[17k]: what was the point of H2?

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[6:37] pagia[3d]: just AG think he's sure win,make a lot of slow move,and win 0.5 point at the end

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[6:38] nadoss[2k]: I really hope I didn't miss anything

[6:38] GoAinue[16k]: at what point did alphago start giving up points

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[6:40] Jeanno[2d]: it's hard to say. but #250 is better at A4

[6:40] Jeanno[2d]: 1 point vs 2 points

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[6:41] Fumbar[13k]: Solace: they did not release all the information

[6:41] Shouldsee[15k]: You meant Move 250?

[6:41] Fumbar[13k]: you coudln't make an exact copy at this point

[6:41] Jeanno[2d]: yes, move 250

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[6:41] Jeanno[2d]: or maybe T4

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[6:41] Shain[7k]: they did release the paper on the old AG

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[6:42] Jeanno[2d]: T4 is bigger

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[6:42] Shain[7k]: and getting the computing power of google might be a challange in itself

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[6:42] Shouldsee[15k]: On Nature I remember, a mixture of supervised learning, MCTS and reinforcement learning.

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[6:42] gamesorry[3d]: D6 might be worth 1+ points

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[6:43] Jeanno[2d]: D6 is literally 1+0.5+0.25

[6:43] Shouldsee[15k]: But I heard this new version of AG now uses RL only,.

[6:43] Jeanno[2d]: so maybe 1.75 pt

[6:43] Jeanno[2d]: yes gamesorry is right

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[6:44] Solace[17k]: that's interesting, because in the original paper the SL actually outperformed RL because it favoured a broader range of moves which increased the prediction

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[6:44] Solace[17k]: hopefully they elaborate on the new system soon

[6:44] Shouldsee[15k]: Yeah someone needs to confirm the algorithm.

[6:44] tommy.dew1[10k]: what are sl and rl

[6:44] Shouldsee[15k]: SL: supervised learning

[6:44] Fuseques[4d]: wonder if using a recurrent network for go can make sense

[6:45] Shouldsee[15k]: RL: reinforcement learning

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[6:45] Fuseques[4d]: while go positions are techniacally timeless, the flow of the game surely helps humans make sense of it

[6:45] Fumbar[13k]: unless you heard that from a deepmin dsource i wouldn't believe it

[6:45] Shain[7k]: well they had the benefit of checking progress against the old AG. if they needed to, dont know if they measured them against each other

[6:45] Fumbar[13k]: i'm sure they'll talk about it tomorrow at the confrence

[6:46] Shouldsee[15k]: Fumbar: Good point

[6:46] กู่ลี่เมืองไทย[7k]: Kejie want to fight with KO, right?

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[6:46] Jeanno[2d]: i don't think a recurrent network helps

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[6:46] gemm[7k]: does he still have a chance?

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[6:47] Jeanno[2d]: no chance

[6:47] Jeanno[2d]: AG is playing whatever it wants

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[6:50] pagia[3d]: seems W+1.5

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[6:50] Shouldsee[15k]: Can't see any potential KO at all

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[6:51] gemm[7k]: +0.5 now

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[6:51] kitten_reborn[6k]: white intentionally went for a half point win? AI is already condescending

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[6:52] Jeanno[2d]: no, it doesn't matter to alphago

[6:52] BazzarKim[17k]: keji the master

[6:52] Shouldsee[15k]: I think it is a by-product of how they coded alphago

[6:52] Jeanno[2d]: a win is a win

[6:52] BazzarKim[17k]: Park Junghwan the god

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[6:52] pagia[3d]: when several move for AI is 100% win,I think it will play random move.

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[6:52] Shain[7k]: i do not think it is intentionally going for half point wins as much as it doesnt care about the lead and just wants to improve the winning chance

[6:53] kitten_reborn[6k]: so you say, but my skynet senses tingle when I watch AG play

[6:53] nadoss[2k]: chinese scoring confuses me so much

[6:53] nadoss[2k]: it's just like "let's take everything off this board before scoring"

[6:53] Shain[7k]: https://www.sciencealert.com/google-is-improving-its-artificial-intelligence-with-artificial-intelligence

[6:53] Shouldsee[15k]: Since +0.5 vs +1.0 makes no difference for AG, he will just try to ensure the +.

[6:53] kitten_reborn[6k]: it's hard to adjust to if you're used to playing japanese, it's true. >.<

[6:54] clywzach[5k]: wait its only .5 - 1 point game?

[6:54] kitten_reborn[6k]: it's very close. the gap was wider before start of yose

[6:54] nadoss[2k]: when did redmond stop giving commentary??

[6:54] nadoss[2k]: a friend of mine tried to explain chinese scoring to me

[6:54] nadoss[2k]: unfortunately it was explained partly in chinese

[6:55] Fumbar[13k]: what kind of couting is this??

[6:55] kitten_reborn[6k]: is it as complex as all that? just fill in the dame and count stones on the board as points, right?

[6:55] pagia[3d]: maybe 1/4 stone win by white in Chinese rule

[6:55] Shouldsee[15k]: Alphago win 1/4 by chinese rule

[6:55] Fumbar[13k]: you can rearrange less complex than that jeez

[6:55] kitten_reborn[6k]: oh, quarter points are things in chinese scoring? maybe it is more complex than I thought. >.<

[6:56] g2far[14k]: Hi, everybody. Group tax makes the difference, or does it ?

[6:56] gamesorry[3d]: 1 stone = 2 points

[6:56] kickaha[5k]: its just a halved half point :)

[6:56] gamesorry[3d]: so 1/4 stone = 0.5 point

[6:56] nadoss[2k]: oops sorry I accidentally reloaded the page and gave control back to you gamesorry

[6:57] gamesorry[3d]: On my screen it still shows you're the controller :)

[6:57] smog山人[11k]: there's group tax? Oo

[6:57] kitten_reborn[6k]: ah, I think I get you now

[6:57] winterspring[2k]: how many points did alphago win by?

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[6:57] gamesorry[3d]: 0.5 point

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[6:58] Mr.Voo[6k]: wow

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[6:58] Mr.Voo[6k]: close as hell

[6:58] Jeanno[2d]: 1/4 pt

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[6:58] kickaha[5k]: myungwan said move 7 lost the game -.-

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[6:58] Jeanno[2d]: doesn't matter really

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[6:58] pagia[3d]: Japanese rule is W+1.5

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[6:59] Mr.Voo[6k]: but i had the feeling that alphago didn't play a perfect endgame.

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[6:59] pagia[3d]: 0.5 or 1.5 = 1/4 stone

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[6:59] The Fat Controller[13k]: alphago will choose randomly betweem options that offer 100percent chance of victory

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[7:00] Mr.Voo[6k]: i suppose so too

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[7:01] Mr.Voo[6k]: i think white could save the stones at D11. This is what Redmond said.

[7:01] Mr.Voo[6k]: he could connect from beneath

[7:01] Mr.Voo[6k]: but maybe he already knew he's winning by 0.5 point xD

[7:01] nadoss[2k]: so I'm going to go now

[7:02] nadoss[2k]: I was dozing off a bit during endgame

[7:02] zike10[21k]: Was it really only .5?

[7:02] zike10[21k]: The commentators were saying it was more.

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[7:04] Fumbar[13k]: yes

[7:05] Fumbar[13k]: but you have to remember AG counts extremely well and played a few 1 pooint moves when 2 point moves were available

[7:05] Fumbar[13k]: near the very end

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[7:05] Shouldsee[15k]: looks there's a conference coming up

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[7:05] Fumbar[13k]: yep

[7:05] Fumbar[13k]: and technical confrence tomorrow night

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[7:05] Shouldsee[15k]: gotcha

[7:05] Shouldsee[15k]: you meant GMT+0?

[7:07] Oni[8k]: 5:30 gmt +3

[7:07] Shouldsee[15k]: thx

[7:07] pantepk[7k]: Variation: 5

[7:15] 游智承[3d]: Variation: 1

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[7:23] Sollies[14k]: Variation: 6

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[13:41] Cold❄寒含[3k]: hey

[13:42] Cold❄寒含[3k]: who won the game

[13:42] bynum[5d]: w

[13:42] Cold❄寒含[3k]: arh, should be

[13:42] bynum[5d]: not a big margin though. 1/4 stones in chinese rules

[13:43] Cold❄寒含[3k]: human never beats AG

[13:43] Cold❄寒含[3k]: after Lee Sedol

[13:45] τετρακόρυμβος[7k]: score

[13:59] pokemonsta433[15k]: alphago has 59.5 if I counted well

[14:00] pokemonsta433[15k]: nope I didn't. got 71 for ke jie

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[14:40] Minions[17k]: so is there a way kee would have won?

[14:40] Minions[17k]: asking as a beginner

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[14:41] Tokumoto[5k]: Ten thinks F12 at move 51 was a mistake. it's way over my head

Move 0 + 31

[14:41] Minions[17k]: for kee?

Move 0 + 51

[14:41] Tokumoto[5k]: yes

Move 0 + 97

[14:43] Minions[17k]: it is strange I read that people sya alpha go got middle

[14:43] Minions[17k]: but it looks like at move 97 kee got quite nice middle stuff

Move 0 + 289

[15:31] gnggo[16k]: who won?

[15:34] safetyfirsthehe[17k]: alphago by 0.5p

Move 0 + 235

[15:53] τετρακόρυμβος[7k]: Variation: 7

Move 0 + 232

[16:00] gemm[7k]: Variation: 8

[16:00] gemm[7k]: tetra, white just descend at j1 like this

Move 0 + 236

[16:00] τετρακόρυμβος[7k]: Variation: 9

[16:01] τετρακόρυμβος[7k]: oh :O i see

Move 0 + 289

[16:31] alexx[10k]: If the middle is everything outside of the starpoints, w won because she had 3 points in the middle and b had 7 (points in the middle being less efficient than the corners and sides)

[16:32] alexx[10k]: I wonder if there is a pro game with fewer points in the middle than this game.

[16:33] alexx[10k]: 0,0,0,0,3,7

[18:41] the_virus[25k]: why cant you estimate the score in a review?

[18:44] Shinkenjoe[4k]: i count blackleading 3 points, i dont believe my count though

[19:19] KYU2[15k] sprints into "room"

[19:19] KYU2[15k]: Did I miss it?

[19:20] KYU2[15k]: COME ON!

[19:20] KYU2[15k]: oh well

Move 0 + 107

[21:27] belitse[25k]: @KYU2 you made me laugh in a library

Move 0 + 289

[21:30] demosha[14k]: There is a lesson to learn from this game