Move 28
0 captures
0 captures
+ 6.5
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Rules: Japanese
Review by: RoadHobo[8k]
Move 6 + 1
March 30, 2014
[1:13] dfunkt[?]: this was your question?
[1:14] ochibi[?]: yeah
[1:14] dfunkt[?]: this start the taisha joseki
[1:14] ochibi[?]: taisha?
[1:14] dfunkt[?]: it is the most complicated joseki in go with thousands of variants
[1:14] ochibi[?]: wow.. okay haha
[1:14] dfunkt[?]: I avoided it with f17
[1:15] ochibi[?]: just thought it might be good to prevent w from getting the influence at the side
[1:15] ochibi[?]: icic :)
[1:15] dfunkt[?]: I can't even begin to show you the sequences because there are too many and it gets very complicated
[1:15] Migaki[?]: Hm...I apologize that I'm not as knowledge as you two, but I've heard of taisha only once before..
[1:16] ochibi[?]: ^sometimes its good to play out of the joseki xD
[1:16] Migaki[?]: RobertT was doing a review on it and they spent hours just reviewing what was 'taisha'
[1:16] ochibi[?]: migaki: i have never heard of taisha :X
[1:16] dfunkt[?]: the most complicated joseki are taisha, small avalanche, and large avalanche
[1:16] Migaki[?]: Wow..
[1:16] ochibi[?]: small? large?
Move 1 + 1
[1:17] dfunkt[?]: geez, It's been a while
[1:17] dfunkt[?]: I can'
[1:17] dfunkt[?]: t remember how it begins
[1:17] dfunkt[?]: can't
[1:17] ochibi[?]: its ok:)
Move 1 + 7
[1:17] ochibi[?]: i play go by instinct anyway >< so all these josekis...
Move 1 + 2
[1:18] dfunkt[?]: yeah
[1:18] dfunkt[?]: it's too early for you to learn joseki
[1:18] Migaki[?]: So, if I ay ask, there's obviously different kinds of josekis..taisha is just one..
[1:18] dfunkt[?]: except for basic ones
[1:18] Migaki[?]: *may
[1:18] Migaki[?]: ?
Move 1 + 8
[1:18] ochibi[?]: this i know
[1:18] ochibi[?]: haha
[1:18] dfunkt[?]: this is a joseki
[1:18] ochibi[?]: at the very least xD
[1:19] Migaki[?]: right
Move 1 + 9
[1:19] dfunkt[?]: that is another
[1:19] dfunkt[?]: there are also whole board joseki
Move 1 + 4
[1:19] ochibi[?]: too many
[1:20] ochibi[?]: haha
[1:20] dfunkt[?]: this is the low chinese opening
[1:20] Migaki[?]: ah, alright..I'll look into them simply because I'd like to just look over some
[1:20] dfunkt[?]: the followup for white is considered joseki too
[1:20] ochibi[?]: df u study joseki a lot?
[1:20] dfunkt[?]: no, but I did for a while
[1:21] ochibi[?]: icic
[1:21] dfunkt[?]: now I just try to learn to fight
[1:21] dfunkt[?]: :)
[1:21] ochibi[?]: im trying to... play more :)
[1:22] dfunkt[?]: my focus at my level is on group strength
Move 12
[1:22] dfunkt[?]: this was joseki
Move 15
[1:22] Migaki[?]: Mhhm
Move 18
[1:22] ochibi[?]: yeah saw it when i was searching for josekis
[1:23] dfunkt[?]: and here i am focusing on white's weak group
Move 23
[1:23] ochibi[?]: rather than d4 can u try e4?
Move 18
[1:23] dfunkt[?]: my direction of play comes from my weak group
[1:23] Migaki[?]: yep
[1:24] dfunkt[?]: both are playable but e4 is not severe
[1:24] dfunkt[?]: if I go in to reduce
Move 30
[1:24] ochibi[?]: i see
Move 14 + 1
[1:24] dfunkt[?]: I want to contact white ( in this case a diagonal contact) to get strong fast
Move 27
[1:24] ochibi[?]: then instead of e3
[1:25] ochibi[?]: how about a jump?
[1:25] ochibi[?]: into the center
Move 14 + 1
[1:25] dfunkt[?]: where?
Move 14 + 1
[1:25] dfunkt[?]: like this?
Move 26
[1:25] ochibi[?]: e7 maybe?
Move 14 + 5
[1:26] dfunkt[?]: now the marked stone is my target but it's also exactly where I want to play next
[1:26] dfunkt[?]: and my shape has a weak point
Move 14 + 8
[1:26] ochibi[?]: not looking good :X
[1:27] dfunkt[?]: so white can make me run
[1:27] dfunkt[?]: while white gets stronger
Move 18
[1:27] ochibi[?]: uhhuh
Move 14 + 10
[1:27] dfunkt[?]: and then white can take profit
[1:27] ochibi[?]: i was actually talking about
Move
: Control passed to ochibi
Move 35
[1:28] dfunkt[?]: you have control
Move 33
[1:28] ochibi[?]: oh ok
Move 26 + 1
[1:28] ochibi[?]: smt like this?
[1:28] dfunkt[?]: now white can push along the 3rd line
Move 26 + 2
[1:28] dfunkt[?]: and connect to k4
[1:28] ochibi[?]: icic
Move 28
[1:29] dfunkt[?]: but as we see in review my followup was wrong direction
[1:29] ochibi[?]: yeap
[1:29] ochibi[?]: should push towards the wall
[1:29] ochibi[?]: how do i pass back ctrl?
[1:29] dfunkt[?]: this is the essence of learning about strong and weak groups
[1:30] dfunkt[?]: the strength of groups determines the direction of play
[1:30] ochibi[?]: i would love to play a game with u next time! ^^
[1:30] ochibi[?]: with migaki too if possible!
[1:30] dfunkt[?]: well, we can do that
[1:30] dfunkt[?]: but right now I am going to relax with a movie
[1:30] ochibi[?]: not now too
[1:30] Migaki[?]: ^^
[1:30] ochibi[?]: i need sleep :)
[1:31] dfunkt[?]: pass control by clicking on my name in the player list
Move
: Control passed to dfunkt
Move 28
[1:31] Migaki[?]: Have a good one ochibi!
[1:31] ochibi[?]: ahh icic
[1:31] dfunkt[?]: ok
[1:31] ochibi[?]: haha thanks :)
[1:31] ochibi[?]: well gtg!
[1:31] dfunkt[?]: have a good night all
[1:31] ochibi[?]: hope to see you two tmr
[1:31] ochibi[?]: see ya!
[1:31] Migaki[?]: Likewise dfunkt, thanks again!

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