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Move 16

ปงปง[15k]

0 captures

Forcewater[10k]

0 captures

+ 6.5

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Rules: Japanese

Review by: ...

Move 250

January 6, 2021

[14:26] Forcewater[?]: hi

[14:26] Diego_123[5k]: hello

[14:26] Diego_123[5k]: remark that i'm not that strong, so

Move 0

[14:27] Forcewater[?]: that's fine

Move 1

[14:27] Forcewater[?]: :)

Move 10

[14:28] Diego_123[5k]: here, you should probably protect your base

Move 9 + 1

[14:28] Forcewater[?]: yeah i couldn't do much in this corner later

[14:28] Diego_123[5k]: your top left can wait

[14:28] Forcewater[?]: because i already have a stone there?

[14:28] Diego_123[5k]: yes

[14:29] Forcewater[?]: ahh and the opponent has more stones than me bottom right

[14:29] Forcewater[?]: closer to the corner

[14:29] Diego_123[5k]: yes, and Q4 becomes weak, and opponent's corner grows

Move 25 + 9

[14:32] Diego_123[5k]: seems better to me

[14:32] Forcewater[?]: because i secure some side territory?

[14:32] Diego_123[5k]: and R13 group is not that safe

[14:33] Forcewater[?]: it looks like it'll have an easy time connecting to the top group

[14:33] Diego_123[5k]: and R8 not alive

[14:33] Forcewater[?]: can you show me how to kill it?

[14:34] Diego_123[5k]: yes, your right/ top group is fine

[14:34] Diego_123[5k]: not easy, but can surround

Move 25 + 27

[14:35] Diego_123[5k]: something like this

[14:36] Forcewater[?]: ahh i see

[14:36] Forcewater[?]: because my side/corner is good here

[14:36] Forcewater[?]: black doesn't get much space

[14:36] Diego_123[5k]: trying to kill is often less productive that threatening while building your own territory

[14:37] Diego_123[5k]: black has so few points here

[14:37] Diego_123[5k]: he is running, you are building

Move 25 + 29

[14:38] Forcewater[?]: i'm playing the moves i want to, and he's just trying to survive?

[14:38] Diego_123[5k]: right

Move 25 + 33

[14:39] Diego_123[5k]: ok, let'sgo bacck

Move 43 + 4

[14:41] Diego_123[5k]: black needs this

[14:42] Diego_123[5k]: if not

Move 43 + 9

[14:43] Diego_123[5k]: ok, there are other variations, but you see i'ts not good for black

[14:43] Forcewater[?]: yeah i understand

Move 43 + 4

[14:44] Diego_123[5k]: so black needs F3

[14:44] Forcewater[?]: i see

Move 43 + 5

[14:44] Diego_123[5k]: then B5

Move 44

[14:45] Forcewater[?]: this looks a lot more solid than what happened

[14:45] Forcewater[?]: lol

[14:45] Diego_123[5k]: you need to attack where you have more space : bottom

[14:45] Forcewater[?]: yeah

Move 46

[14:45] Forcewater[?]: he already had a stone above

[14:46] Diego_123[5k]: you attacked the strongest

Move 53

[14:47] Diego_123[5k]: here, you build two cuts instead of one

Move 54

[14:48] Diego_123[5k]: P11 becomes a good cut for black

Move 89

[14:50] Diego_123[5k]: protect

Move 89 + 1

[14:50] Forcewater[?]: yeah i did consider that move too

Move 89 + 3

[14:50] Forcewater[?]: i thought p14 looked like a crucial pointm too

[14:50] Diego_123[5k]: that group is in danger, so Eyeshape

Move 89 + 6

[14:51] Forcewater[?]: i see i see

Move 89 + 7

[14:51] Diego_123[5k]: if not, you will lose the whole group

[14:51] Forcewater[?]: if it's in danger, then i should live first

[14:51] Forcewater[?]: before thinking about connecting

[14:52] Diego_123[5k]: live or connect, but here you can't do both

Move 98

[14:53] Diego_123[5k]: so basically here, your top is dead

[14:53] Forcewater[?]: yeah

[14:53] Forcewater[?]: i sensed that

[14:53] Forcewater[?]: so i decided to abandon ship

[14:53] Diego_123[5k]: with a lot of invested stones

Move 105

[14:54] Forcewater[?]: the good news is

[14:54] Forcewater[?]: i read the ladder out right

[14:54] Forcewater[?]: the bad news is

[14:54] Forcewater[?]: it's gonna get captured anyway

[14:54] Diego_123[5k]: wondering if

Move 105 + 15

[14:56] Diego_123[5k]: this is not perfect, but still hope

[14:56] Forcewater[?]: what are my priorities in this kind of situation?

Move 105

[14:58] Diego_123[5k]: it's difficult, your two groups are weak

Move 105 + 15

[14:58] Diego_123[5k]: i would probably this

[14:59] Diego_123[5k]: but after, it becomes complicated

Move 109

[15:00] Diego_123[5k]: now, Q9 is dead, so just let go

[15:00] Forcewater[?]: yeah i just didn't realise

[15:00] Forcewater[?]: i was so excited by the ladder

Move 109 + 15

[15:02] Diego_123[5k]: best you can expect

Move 110

[15:03] Diego_123[5k]: this is not a ladder, because Q6

Move 117

[15:03] Forcewater[?]: mistakes were made

Move 123 + 1

[15:04] Diego_123[5k]: this group is in danger

[15:04] Forcewater[?]: i didn't realise that

Move 123 + 4

[15:05] Diego_123[5k]: black M4 is probably dangerous for black

Move 123 + 11

[15:06] Forcewater[?]: my idea was to get something going at the bottom first, and then connect

[15:06] Forcewater[?]: since they didn't seem far away

[15:06] Forcewater[?]: but it looks like that was too ambitious

[15:06] Diego_123[5k]: yes, they are too far

Move 123 + 1

[15:07] Diego_123[5k]: if you want to do something, you can easily go

[15:07] Diego_123[5k]: M5

[15:08] Diego_123[5k]: M2, sorry

[15:08] Diego_123[5k]: L2 is too slow

Move 126

[15:08] Forcewater[?]: yeah i was thinking slow and steady

[15:08] Diego_123[5k]: idem, F2

[15:08] Diego_123[5k]: or even F3

Move 150

[15:11] Diego_123[5k]: with K7, you can at least fight for the group

[15:11] Forcewater[?]: i don't remember my reasoning for this move

[15:11] Forcewater[?]: i see why k7 is good, though

[15:11] Diego_123[5k]: N3 gets you two points

Move 153

[15:12] Forcewater[?]: i was running low on time here, so some of my moves didn't have much thought behind them

[15:12] Diego_123[5k]: yeah, K7 before

[15:12] Forcewater[?]: oh i remember this move

[15:12] Forcewater[?]: f8

[15:12] Diego_123[5k]: black saw K7

Move 155

[15:12] Forcewater[?]: because i wanted to cut at g6

Move 188

[15:14] Diego_123[5k]: you need to connect F10

Move 194

[15:16] Diego_123[5k]: here, you could try a battle for K10

Move 195

[15:17] Forcewater[?]: i see

Move 195 + 3

[15:17] Forcewater[?]: it's really cramped

Move 195 + 9

[15:17] Diego_123[5k]: and you get a seki

[15:18] Forcewater[?]: i see i see

[15:18] Diego_123[5k]: very good use of dead stones

[15:18] Diego_123[5k]: not so dead in final

[15:18] Diego_123[5k]: and at the same time, you get points in the center

[15:18] Forcewater[?]: yeah

Move 195 + 20

[15:20] Diego_123[5k]: and so on

Move 195

[15:20] Diego_123[5k]: this A1 stone just kills your hope to do anything in the area

[15:21] Diego_123[5k]: so work elsewhere

Move 209

[15:21] Forcewater[?]: i was really low on time here

[15:22] Forcewater[?]: none of my moves had much thought

[15:22] Diego_123[5k]: now , by trying to save an already dead group in the left/ bottom, you lost the center

[15:22] Forcewater[?]: yeah, for sure

[15:23] Diego_123[5k]: right / bottom, sorry

Move 212

[15:23] Forcewater[?]: black ended up getting a lot more in the centre than i expected

[15:23] Diego_123[5k]: the center AND F10

Move 236

[15:24] Diego_123[5k]: now , pure panic, and you lose everything

Move 239

[15:25] Forcewater[?]: yeah like i said, i was just out of time

Move 250

[15:26] Diego_123[5k]: one of the major improvements i see is : don't play everywhere all the time

[15:26] Diego_123[5k]: focus

[15:26] Diego_123[5k]: first, urgent

[15:26] Diego_123[5k]: groups in danger

[15:26] Diego_123[5k]: second : 'big' moves

[15:27] Forcewater[?]: i think i was prioritising big moves over groups in danger

[15:27] Diego_123[5k]: don't leave a fight until you see you are reasonably safe

[15:28] Diego_123[5k]: build bases

Move 1 + 13

[15:29] Diego_123[5k]: 11 7 5 : a good base

[15:29] Forcewater[?]: i see

[15:29] Diego_123[5k]: watch the cutting points

Move 1 + 16

[15:30] Diego_123[5k]: bad

[15:30] Diego_123[5k]: for both, but if your oponent is a bit stronger, bad for you

Move 1 + 15

[15:31] Diego_123[5k]: better at your level (and even at mine)

[15:31] Forcewater[?]: keep it simple

[15:32] Diego_123[5k]: yeah, you will mke a lot better by

[15:32] Diego_123[5k]: urgent, than big

[15:32] Diego_123[5k]: make life bases

[15:33] Diego_123[5k]: watch your cuts

[15:33] Diego_123[5k]: don't play everywhere

[15:34] Diego_123[5k]: at least, you will not lose ALL your stones,like in this game

[15:34] Forcewater[?]: yeah LOL

[15:34] Forcewater[?]: stop trying to fight in 3 places, just survive at one first

[15:34] Diego_123[5k]: hope it has been a bit of help

[15:34] Forcewater[?]: got it

[15:34] Forcewater[?]: yeah, that was super helpful

[15:34] Forcewater[?]: thank you so much!

[15:34] Diego_123[5k]: good luck and see you

[15:35] Forcewater[?]: thanks!!