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Faithy_7[6k]

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Fishku[2k]

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+ 6.5

Unranked

Rules: Japanese

Review by: ...

Move 266

April 18, 2021

[10:33] Faithy_7[6k]: here

Move 54

[10:34] fishku[2k]: do I have to give you control or something?

Move 266

[10:34] Faithy_7[6k]: you have it

Move

: Control passed to ...

Move 16

[10:34] fishku[2k]: I think this would be seen as good for white

[10:34] fishku[2k]: black is completely sealed off

[10:34] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah it would be

Move 6 + 1

[10:35] Faithy_7[6k]: this maybe?

[10:35] fishku[2k]: equally good

Move 18

[10:35] fishku[2k]: you wanted to avoid the complicated joseki ;)

Move 18 + 7

[10:36] fishku[2k]: possible.

Move 18 + 13

[10:36] fishku[2k]: hmm

[10:36] Faithy_7[6k]: i know you can turn that around i didnt wanna do it :;D

[10:36] fishku[2k]: I don't think that's joseki ;)

Move 18 + 7

[10:36] fishku[2k]: or is it?

Move 18 + 10

[10:37] fishku[2k]: looks great for W

Move 18 + 11

[10:37] fishku[2k]: usually W s16 is special

Move 18 + 4

[10:37] fishku[2k]: but the board doesn't necessitate that special move in my opinion

[10:37] fishku[2k]: still pretty open

Move 20

[10:38] Faithy_7[6k]: what's the move here?

Move 20 + 1

[10:38] fishku[2k]: can I get control?

Move

: Control passed to ...

Move 20 + 8

[10:38] fishku[2k]: hane at n18 leads to this complicated joseki

[10:38] Faithy_7[6k]: oh that's complicated :D

[10:39] fishku[2k]: I'm not even sure about the follow up here, there are several

Move 20 + 1

[10:39] Faithy_7[6k]: i'd like this more for B if there ladder was good

[10:39] fishku[2k]: this is a simpler shape

Move 20 + 2

[10:40] fishku[2k]: black would probably tenuki here

Move 20 + 5

[10:40] fishku[2k]: this is also possible, reverts to standard sequence

Move 20 + 6

[10:40] fishku[2k]: white will aim at this peep later

Move 22

[10:41] fishku[2k]: tenuki makes B pretty weak :) better to respond at least one more time

Move 32 + 5

[10:41] Faithy_7[6k]: i totaly missread that cut :D

Move 32 + 6

[10:42] fishku[2k]: this is a weird-looking new joseki

[10:42] fishku[2k]: bottom side is open, that's why this is playable for white

Move 32

[10:42] Faithy_7[6k]: i dont know how to deal with moves like s5

[10:42] Faithy_7[6k]: it's just so annoying

Move 32 + 20

[10:43] fishku[2k]: you mean here?

[10:43] Faithy_7[6k]: ye

[10:43] fishku[2k]: black chose influence when playing the sequence there

[10:44] fishku[2k]: you can't have everything :)

[10:44] Faithy_7[6k]: so it's wrong for me to try to stop it? just push it down?

Move 32 + 29

[10:44] fishku[2k]: white get's only a few points

[10:45] fishku[2k]: it's not a big deal

[10:45] Faithy_7[6k]: ah, i always think it should be cut off :D

[10:45] fishku[2k]: you can't cut it off directly

Move 28 + 9

[10:45] fishku[2k]: you can also consider playing like this

[10:46] Faithy_7[6k]: true i went wrong direction

[10:46] fishku[2k]: hard to say... I would ask AI :)

Move 28 + 11

[10:46] fishku[2k]: but this looks like a good moyo, too

Move 36

[10:46] Faithy_7[6k]: i think my top left joseki was wrong since all the rest i did was for moyo

Move 38

[10:47] fishku[2k]: nah, I think it was good

[10:47] fishku[2k]: you can play flexibly

Move 38 + 1

[10:47] fishku[2k]: this connection is super big. You can't have everything :)

[10:47] Faithy_7[6k]: s4.. fear of s5 again :D

[10:47] fishku[2k]: yep, hehe

Move 42 + 1

[10:48] Faithy_7[6k]: q12 here for sure next time :P

Move 42 + 5

[10:48] Faithy_7[6k]: p12*

[10:48] fishku[2k]: maybe something like this. I'm not too sure

[10:48] fishku[2k]: but yeah, black's territory is majestic

Move 42 + 1

[10:48] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah i just let you in instead of taking 4th line :D

Move 50

[10:49] fishku[2k]: I think this joseki isn't too good for white.

[10:49] fishku[2k]: I'm not sure about the correct moves here.

Move 52 + 3

[10:49] fishku[2k]: I expected this

Move 52 + 5

[10:50] fishku[2k]: I'm very unsure about this :) maybe ask a stronger player about this

Move 52 + 7

[10:50] fishku[2k]: pretty stable, still

Move 60

[10:51] Faithy_7[6k]: wanted to secure my group there while attacking you :D

Move 56 + 5

[10:52] fishku[2k]: what about this instead? playing so high at p14 keeps you floating still

Move 56 + 12

[10:52] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah, make a base while stealing yours,,,

[10:52] fishku[2k]: this fight looks good for black

Move 56 + 18

[10:53] fishku[2k]: ladder probably doesn't work for white

Move 56 + 37

[10:53] fishku[2k]: nope :)

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[10:54] fishku[2k]: I like s13

Move 67 + 1

[10:54] fishku[2k]: white would like to have played at s14

Move 67 + 7

[10:55] Faithy_7[6k]: s13 was aiming for s10 miai connection

Move 69 + 4

[10:55] fishku[2k]: hm, okay

[10:55] fishku[2k]: but it's gote for black

[10:56] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah i need to work on sente midgame :D i only do that in endgame now

[10:56] fishku[2k]: in general I felt like you played many gote moves when you didn't need to, leaving behind points for white to pick up

[10:56] fishku[2k]: maybe you can try reading or estimating if a move is sente more

Move 77

[10:56] fishku[2k]: here, just throw these stones away :)

Move 76 + 1

[10:57] fishku[2k]: the left side is big for both players

Move 84

[10:57] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah i was dead set to harras your group with no eyes :D

Move 85

[10:58] fishku[2k]: we've all been there ;)

[10:58] fishku[2k]: the thing is, you cannot harrass when your own group is weak

Move 85 + 4

[10:58] fishku[2k]: if it were like this, you can harrass away

[10:59] fishku[2k]: harass*

Move 92 + 1

[11:00] fishku[2k]: taking here is free sente for you :)

Move 92 + 4

[11:00] Faithy_7[6k]: i got angry at myself there got 2 weak groups on the sides so i could never play c2, completely eliminating points and eyes

Move 92 + 2

[11:01] fishku[2k]: white can run to the center. Probably the deepest you can go is d2

Move 92 + 3

[11:01] Faithy_7[6k]: cant i connect with b4?

Move 92 + 5

[11:01] Faithy_7[6k]: now e2

Move 92 + 3

[11:02] Faithy_7[6k]: e1

Move 92 + 11

[11:02] Faithy_7[6k]: oh nvm XD

Move 94

[11:02] fishku[2k]: almost ;)

Move 96

[11:02] fishku[2k]: this one is fine to leave like this. It reduces liberties of white

Move 98 + 6

[11:04] fishku[2k]: white doesn't mind too much

Move 114 + 9

[11:05] fishku[2k]: black is dead locally, but no problem to run

Move 114 + 11

[11:05] fishku[2k]: you can also connect to the right in a second move

Move 114 + 11

[11:06] fishku[2k]: ( I think)

Move 138 + 1

[11:07] fishku[2k]: hane is overplay by white probably :)

Move 144 + 2

[11:07] fishku[2k]: nevermind :)

Move 148

[11:08] Faithy_7[6k]: here i was afraid of you getting f11 after cutting at f14

[11:08] fishku[2k]: bumping your head needs to be read carefully. It steals your own liberties

Move 148 + 7

[11:08] fishku[2k]: like so?

Move 148 + 10

[11:09] Faithy_7[6k]: haha i didnt even think of 7 connecting :D

Move 148 + 7

[11:09] Faithy_7[6k]: in my mind it's hane :D

Move 148 + 10

[11:09] fishku[2k]: you saw this one then :)

[11:09] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah

Move 148 + 15

[11:10] fishku[2k]: black seems quite fine

Move 150 + 4

[11:10] fishku[2k]: if you're going to defend, try to take as many points as possible

Move 150 + 7

[11:11] fishku[2k]: this ko is not so good for white to fight

[11:11] fishku[2k]: so it might seem a bit risky, but you can restore your true eye in most cases

Move 156 + 3

[11:12] fishku[2k]: if you play a gote move, you have to play it out :)

[11:12] fishku[2k]: otherwise it was a bad exchange for black

Move 193

[11:13] fishku[2k]: it looks cool, but are there other sente moves?

[11:14] Faithy_7[6k]: m1?

[11:14] Faithy_7[6k]: oh not sente

[11:14] Faithy_7[6k]: n13?

[11:14] fishku[2k]: right

Move 196

[11:14] fishku[2k]: well it was sente in the end :)

Move 202 + 4

[11:15] fishku[2k]: oh, it really worked

Move 202

[11:15] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah that one was annoying :D

Move 200 + 5

[11:15] fishku[2k]: it was kind of a trick move

Move 206 + 5

[11:16] fishku[2k]: no problem

Move 206 + 1

[11:17] fishku[2k]: I don't see a problem. Was there something else that you saw here?

Move 206 + 3

[11:17] Faithy_7[6k]: no i saw l2 double atari :D

Move 206 + 2

[11:18] fishku[2k]: when this move is there, it's usually safe

Move 206 + 4

[11:18] fishku[2k]: self-atari

Move 223

[11:19] Faithy_7[6k]: i need to get rid of this kind of mistakes... losing points 1 by 1 on moves i havent read enough

Move 229 + 1

[11:19] fishku[2k]: I was playing pretty slack endgame

[11:19] fishku[2k]: this one is by far the biggest I think :)

Move 228 + 1

[11:20] fishku[2k]: even here

Move 255 + 9

[11:21] fishku[2k]: I was looking at some weird variations, but probably white was already safe

[11:21] Faithy_7[6k]: n19?

Move 255 + 15

[11:21] Faithy_7[6k]: ah yeah safe

[11:21] fishku[2k]: temporary seki or what you want to call it :p

Move 263

[11:22] Faithy_7[6k]: seki untill i die :D

Move 262 + 1

[11:22] fishku[2k]: heh

[11:22] fishku[2k]: one more point here

[11:22] fishku[2k]: I haven't looked at ko threats, though

Move 256 + 1

[11:22] fishku[2k]: r12 and p7 are ko threats at this stage

[11:23] Faithy_7[6k]: but why would you ko?

[11:23] fishku[2k]: so play the ko first

[11:23] fishku[2k]: I think some people call this a half point ko

[11:23] fishku[2k]: so the winner will get one more point finally

[11:23] Faithy_7[6k]: yeah, but in this game you wouldnt ko you dont need 1 point :P

[11:24] Faithy_7[6k]: why risk anything for it

[11:24] fishku[2k]: there's no risk, the groups on both sides are alive

[11:24] fishku[2k]: but you're right, white doesn't need to care

[11:24] fishku[2k]: just because you said you wanted to stop bleeding point by point

[11:24] fishku[2k]: this is also one :)

[11:24] Faithy_7[6k]: true

Move 266

[11:25] fishku[2k]: alright, I think you already knew the conclusion before the review

Move 54

[11:25] fishku[2k]: responding to W o11 was big

Move 42 + 7

[11:25] fishku[2k]: maybe like this

[11:25] Faithy_7[6k]: especialy since i played s4

[11:26] fishku[2k]: yes

[11:26] fishku[2k]: and try to verify if your moves are really sente, even if they look elegant / tricky :)

[11:27] fishku[2k]: that's it, I gotta get some lunch now :)

[11:27] fishku[2k]: I'll see you around!

[11:27] Faithy_7[6k]: yup more reading is required! ty for the game and review i must cook myself :P

[11:27] fishku[2k]: same same :)

[11:27] fishku[2k]: bye bye

[11:27] Faithy_7[6k]: bye